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Just got an email from Samsung asking me to do a survey about their phone for $25. It was funny because the survey only asked about the positives of the phone (screen, contact sync's, entertainment) and said nothing about GPS or updates. It did have a part at the end asking about Samsung the company though, where the 'Caring' part got a 1 from me. I just know that this survey is not going to help them at all, since they don't even have areas dedicated to the phones issues.
"Thank you for your feedback! The survey is now complete. You should expect to receive your $25 prepaid debit card within the next few weeks."
I got the same notification and just completed the survey. There are spots to write in your three favorite and three least favorite aspects of the phone...I hope they read them.
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by the time I clicked on the link it said the survey was closed
Email states "Offer valid while supplies last...."
Apparently it didn't last long, I missed out too.
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they probably closed it due to too many negative write in comments
So I went to a few stores today that sells att phones. I asked everyone in all 5 of the stores about the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note LTE, noone even knew about it as if it will be coming out 6 years from now -.- noone knew there was one even coming out let alone the name :/ it kind of makes me sad when the consumer knows more then the sales reps. They should train more in my opinion this was just my little experiance for the day just thought I'd share. Anyone else looking forward to the note lte for att?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps are always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps at always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Haha yea I understand. I never ask about a device until it's all over the internet and comfirmed by many sources. That's like calling HTC and asking about the rumored Edge.
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I even tried bestbuy lol and the guys words were "our phone tech isn't here today he will be here tomorrow from 12-6" I live 40 mins away from anything so its not in my best choice to go back but anywho I go to the same att retailer when I buy my phones. They know me there and come at me quick because I don't just come in to buy a cheap pantech crossover I'm there with cash in hand and buy phones straight up xD so they are always willing to help. When I went in to buy my Sony xperia play 4g I handed her my iPhone to Bluetooth my contacts, she looked at my iPhone and her exact words were "what the F is this" it was running wp7 xD Haha but in all seriousness I think someone should be hired in the certain area. It'd be like hiring me to sell cars or ovens when I know nothing about them, I feel like they just hire anyone :/ I went to buy a computer once and the worker argued for 30 minutes that 512mb was a gigabyte :/ I shook my head and took my business elsewhere I just don't understand... sometimes I wish everyone cared about a phone as much as we do... instead of "as long as I can listen to music watch YouTube and look at porn, I don't care what it looks like or what it does" :'( I honestly just want to teach everyone for free so I don't feel so smart and dumb at the same time. anyone else feel that way?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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I agree. I've perused tablets in Best Buy and after engaging the nearest 'team member' for less than 3 minutes, I realize that I know more than they do.
It's the same experience when going to the auto parts store. There are some people who can carry on informed conversation, but 90% are the type who watch fast & furious movies in awe, and know nothing about repair or maintenance or they can only look up part numbers.
Basically, lower your expectations.
This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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I have had similar experience with applying for jobs at auto parts stores. The 'now hiring' sign is displayed for several months and the staff changes about every 3 weeks, but I never get called. For a while there was an older woman who not only knew nothing about cars but she also needed help to use the computer program to look up parts.
I finally realized that these people will work for less money than I will because I actually know what I am doing. It really is sad that people with any level of technical or mechanical ability don't actually work at the retail level because they can't get enough money.
And don't get me started on the people who work at Home Depot . .
I have no past work experiance. I'm 19 years old have been the "bad" kid because I used to be a "black magic" hacker I've gotten introuble from schools best buys and targets because of it but now I'm past all that I do phones tablets anything mobile. There is never a time when I'm in best buy that I'm back in the computer/phone area and usually an older citizen is talking to a sales Rep about which one is better and the sales Rep says well product A is $1299 with 4gb ram touchscreen is way better then product B $899 8gb ram and so on but they go by the price as the sales Rep was walking her to the register I kindly walked up and said "hello ma'am I noticed you were interested in two different so-so" the sales Rep called the manager and had me kicked out for costing him the sale xD but they wont hire me? I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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i have to say i agree not many of the people in the stores even know about the phones they have in front of them much less whats coming out.
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... I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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I don't mean to overstep the rules of polite conversation but you may wish to think about your image. It isn't fair that we judge based on looks, but it happens.
*Edit - When I say looks I also means assumptions that people will make of others based on their prejudices. -*End Edit
Most recently, I applied for a job repairing projectors. During the interview they kept asking me about how well I would transition to an office environment. Completely Ridiculous! I would be working in the workshop not the office and I happened to be better dressed than any of my interviewers.
Basically, some people cannot see past their little world or people they can understand.
Man Verizon store by me they don't know anything. And they are jerks as well. Went to upgrade my moms phone and said she wouldn't get unlimited data with her Droid 3 so I just bought it from newegg called up and boom she got her unlimited data. Never going back to that store again. Hate how now you have to bring phone to store to get replaced.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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Frig no, we need no more non technical people. Like how not everyone is cut out for engineering or medicine, not everyone is cut out for xda.
$1 gets you a reply
I'm not saying everyone join xda but if you going to sell something atleast know alittle about the past present and the future you can't be like well I'm sorry I don't know about cars from 2011 back I only know about the 2012 Ford focus and that's all sorry can't work on you're car -.-
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Ok, I guess the story with SimplyElectronics is very well known so please let's not go into the discussion of why I didn't choose a trusted seller. I used them because like anybody else I found the HTC One X 200eu cheaper than in my country.
Anyway, to get into the point. I bought this phone from them and there was a problem with GPS so they agreed to give me full refund when I send it back to them. I sent it back but they kept the phone and never gave me refund. I started Paypal dispute but they fooled them that they have never received the phone although they told me they received it in good order. After Paypal closed the case in their favour, they told me that they will give no money and no phone back. They told me to go to Paypal to give me my money back.
My question here goes to British people. Do you know of any collection service in the UK, legal or illegal, I don't care, even if it's the mafia, that's fine with me, who can do the collection for me, either by forcibly getting the phone back from them or the money? I have no other option unfortunately so this is my last resort and better than nothing. I know that I can have this kind of 'service' here so most probably there must be something similar in the UK.
No relatives in the UK? If you have then it might be an option to use them to take this company to the small claims court. I think the limit is £500 but I stand to be corrected.
Where are they based?
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No relatives but even if I had, I don't want to involve anyone with my problems. I prefer to give half the value to the mafia and get the other half. At least here, it is the only option to get justice. Police and the law fail, lawyers and courts will cost much more.
There are no "mafia's" here... lol
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At least that's not what we call em
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Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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Yes it was signed for but unfortunately UK postal service don't update online tracking information so Paypal cannot verify the delivery and they denied to Paypal that they received it although they acknowledged delivery to me. The postal survey to prove that it was delivered takes 2 month by the British postal service and the authorities here depend on them for the info so they can't help them. After 2 months Paypal will not bother with me.
Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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Is that th same as royal mail? if yes, I've emailed them long time ago but they don't even reply. Even from the Postal service here they tried to call them directly and they didn't help. They said, please follow the protocols and file in your reports. Which take 2 months to complete. I know they could provide the info easily but they don't want to do it.
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks.
They are in Surrey.
Here is the full address:
Simplyelectronics Ltd
C/O MIQ Logistics UK Ltd
Unit 1, Alpha Way,
Thorpe Industrial Park
Egham, Surrey
TW20 8RZ
Do you have any idea how I could get written confirmation from Royal Mail that they have received it? But this has to be done within a week. Paypal told me I can appeal within 10 days if I get this report. I have 7 more days for this.
I will try calling them tomorrow morning then but I doubt they can provide written evidence. Maybe they just tell me that it has been received but I don't think they will give it written now. I will try though. Thanks for the suggestion.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Oh ok then sorry about that ignore my rant and good luck with getting some justice.
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If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks again for droping the idea. I called them today and although it was very hard to get through (all options where going to dead end and automated messages only), I finally mamaged to randomly select an option and they guy there was so helpful, that he even emailed me the receipt showing the name and signature of the guy who received the package. Imagine that with the official procedure that would take 2 months.
I forwarded this to Paypal but I don't know if they will accept it now. As I said, I believe that they prefer to stay with their side so let's wait and see their excuse this time. Normally there should be an appeal option in the clain page but for me it's missing and they can't tell me the reason. I attached the pdf on dropbox and now I just hope they will see it and be willing to help.
I'll keep you updated and I'm buying beers if I succeed
Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Good news. Paypal has accepted the information and reopened the case allowing me to appeal. They made a mistake though and showed that the seller appealed instead of buyer. Technically thinking, that worries me again. I notified them and now wait with my fingers crossed.
If they just want to help the scammer they may come back with a bunch of excuses but since I am now in this path, I want to be optimistic.
Im sure they will back you up on this one. I dont they they will risk themselves being in **** over a duspute you WILL eventually win. If they dont accept your appeal they may well be getting themselves into trouble. Seeing as you have provided them with written proof. Im sure they will ask s.e to provide there proof of refund or return. Which they cannot do. So i imagine they have the same time period as you "10 days" to provide thier evidence. So i guess its just another waiting game before you get your money or phone
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Well chuffed for ya mate. Im no expert but im sure by this time next week the appeal will be resolved in your favour. As more often than not paypal will not reopen a case unless there was a strong chance of the appealer winning.
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This really is a USA thread only but all can get involved. Recently our government has ruled that unlocking phones without carrier permission is now illegal. Please sign this petition to change such law so that we can own the technology we buy!!!
http://wh.gov/yA9n
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I don't see what's so unfair about this.
This impacts people who are buying carrier-subsidized devices. This is a practice that has always benefited the carrier much more than the consumer.
This ruling shouldn't be something to get mad about directly - people should be mad about how badly they're being screwed over by subsidies in general. I think it's fair enough that if you sign up to be screwed, you get your full screwing.
Also, if you actually read the thing, it doesn't apply to used devices. This only applies to new phones bought under contract wherein you had full disclosure about the phone's state and the carrier's policy - no one should hedge their bets on being able to circumvent the terms they agreed to.
Even if you buy a phone at full price from a carrier it is still illegal to unlock it without the carriers approval. Thats my issue.
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See the problem is that they claim they are losing money on people unlocking their phones then going to another carrier. The flaw here is that they aren't losing anything, if someone cancels the contract they pay the etf, and if they don't they are still paying monthly because of the contract. Its just another scheme to hurt our money. Carriers can get in on the cell phone unlocking business and charge money to unlock their own cellphones, and there won't be anyone to compete
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this is the result of old baby boomers who do not understand or appreciate info tech but "represent us" in govt + ridiculous amounts of corporate lobby money in politics + people surprised and shocked when they realize they voluntarily screwed themselves by signing bad contracts.
that said, people are too freaked out by this. ask yourself: will you still unlock your phone even if its illegal? if course you would and so would most people. so, who cares?
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this is the result of old baby boomers who do not understand or appreciate info tech but "represent us" in govt + ridiculous amounts of corporate lobby money in politics + people surprised and shocked when they realize they voluntarily screwed themselves by signing bad contracts.
that said, people are too freaked out by this. ask yourself: will you still unlock your phone even if its illegal? if course you would and so would most people. so, who cares?
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If I paid full price for my phone, I should be able to do whatever I like to it.
But the real impact is: this law kills the spirit of technology innovation.
I see this as an issue between the consumer and carrier. Stop buying phones that don't come unlocked - demand that carriers make it an option or buy used / phones sold as unlocked only.
Carriers are slowly realising that they're losing business if they don't give people the options they want - see Sprint rolling out a pre-paid service (not just the other brands they own).
If a business is screwing you, take your business to one whose terms you like. It's like pay-day loans - terrible for you, but it's your choice to do something terrible for yourself.
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If I paid full price for my phone, I should be able to do whatever I like to it.
But the real impact is: this law kills the spirit of technology innovation.
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If you buy your phone on contract, the cost of phone is almost always subsidized and you're playing by their rules. You're essentially leasing the device.
If you buy your phone at full mrsp price, then yes, you should be free to do whatever.
I dont see how this stifles tech advancements at all; I just see the creation of more underground and gray markets for unlocking services. All the bodega cellphone stores will still unlock phones for 30 bucks; they may just advertise less. Hell, they probably wont change that. Do you think cops will even care? Not where I live.
And unlocking tools/codes/apps will still be all over the internet. They may not be on the US Google Play Store anymore. Big deal.
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Exactly. Its not that big of a deal if you.have the know how. I unlocked my galaxy note 2 subsidized without my carriers permission. In 30 seconds flat to work on any carrier. I could care less what government agency cares. And care less about.any legislation anyways as i am officially branded by.my government as an outlaw anyways. I have no respect for worthless laws.
Nor do the police have any means of enforcing this at the moment anyways. And yes i know because i take the.exact same.classes that.digital forensic offocers.take.at.my.college
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I was going to make this same exact thread.
Surprised to see so little activity on this topic especially here on XDA.
I would assume 95% of XDA members phones are unlocked/hacked so this would affect us.
Doesn't matter if you don't think it will be enforced or not, you shouldn't have to worry about being prosecuted just because you want to experiment with your own phone.
We need to reject laws like these that are hostile to the consumer and show greedy corporations and politicians that we are paying attention and won't stand for this crap.
Agreed
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Even if you buy a phone at full price from a carrier it is still illegal to unlock it without the carriers approval. Thats my issue.
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Okay now that's just wrong on the carrier's part because when you pay full price, you literally own the phone.
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free phones and other devices
I don't like such politics. I want devices free!!!
Too little too late?
There was a thread for this, your probably not seeing it bc no one has posted on it in 4 or 5 days. Its really sad too especially considering that this is probably the first in a line of laws to be unfairly passed that screw the consumer. To everyone overseas: not everyone wants to do something they know is technically illegal, enforced or not. The options for unlocked phones get pretty narrow if you like a certain kind of phone, and even narrower if you are tied to a particular service that has better reception in your area like say verizon like with me. I live in the middle of nowhere...lol but that's a different subject. The point is this sucks bc it takes away our options as consumers. We shouldn't have to not buy locked phones until all the carriers get the hint and safe to say that would take time. Obviously they see the wisdom in this move for them or they would not have done it. I was like the 14,000th signature on this petition and have been watching and promoting it everywhere, and sadly it looks like we have lost the needed speed to finish with 100k sigs. At this rate we will finish with about 80k give or take i figure. Not saying give up bc i wont, but everyone that is in the u.s. and understands whats involved needs to pick it up big time as this gets less media coverage. Spread the word!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
This big brother administration keeps ramming through laws that hurt the consumer!
If we purchase a non subsidized phone at full retail do they lower our monthly bill? Can we carrier unlock?
The answer to both is no. Funny how they get it all and we get nothing in return. Enough is enough already.
I will gladly pay full retail if I "own" my phone, no carrier lock and unlocked/s-off, and they reduce my bill accordingly.
Just remember, they use OUR airwaves, and now are abusing the legal system to hold us hostage so they can profit. Pretty sure this is not legal.
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5l4Y said:
I don't like such politics. I want devices free!!!
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Free to unlock our own phones/tablets!! :good: Totally agree!!
Yep, let's get this signed
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Hi all,
I have stumbled upon the name "Amixan Limited". They advertise the deals for smartphones and it sounds too good to be true. I live in us and they are based on UK. has anyone have any info on them?
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A quick google search will reveal that they have been accused of delivery fraud. It is almost impossible for a European outfit to have lower prices then a US one.
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