I was using CleanMaster cleaner to clean up my phone, and thanks to FTS (fat thumb syndrome) I deleted all my backups, including my stock ROM backup. Any suggestions, or am I just stuck with what I got? I'm on a Razr MAXX HD With an unlocked bootloader. TWRP 2.6.3.0
I'm currently on CM 11, Dec. 12 nightly.
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I think you're stuck with what you have. I would immediately make a backup of the ROM you have now, just in case. I know I feel more comfortable having a stock ROM on my SD, just in case something happens. So, if I were you, I would find a stock ROM and just throw it on the SD.
so this is equivalent to odin and samsung right? find your phone's firmware on sbf.droid...and rsdlite is the way to flash. these are pure stock right...with all the rogers bloatware for instance?
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I think you're stuck with what you have. I would immediately make a backup of the ROM you have now, just in case. I know I feel more comfortable having a stock ROM on my SD, just in case something happens. So, if I were you, I would find a stock ROM and just throw it on the SD.
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peladoro said:
so this is equivalent to odin and samsung right? find your phone's firmware on sbf.droid...and rsdlite is the way to flash. these are pure stock right...with all the rogers bloatware for instance?
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Yeah, RSD is pretty much the same as Odin. However, there are a few stock recovery flashable ROMs running around. That's what I was talking about.
i finally went thru with rooting and unlocked bootloader and adb cwm...so far stock is just fine...been reading a lot and seems to have problems with most roms...wondering if i should just wait for official kk
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Yeah, RSD is pretty much the same as Odin. However, there are a few stock recovery flashable ROMs running around. That's what I was talking about.
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Thanks Rik! As soon as I realized what I did I backed up my current ROM. And as you stated, I just feel better knowing I have a stock backup "just in case". In fact, none of them were necessary, as I AM unlocked so I can flash whatever. One question though: are there pros/cons to consider when flashing stock? Is RSD "better" than recovery flashable? (I guess that's actually TWO questions
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Thanks Rik! As soon as I realized what I did I backed up my current ROM. And as you stated, I just feel better knowing I have a stock backup "just in case". In fact, none of them were necessary, as I AM unlocked so I can flash whatever. One question though: are there pros/cons to consider when flashing stock? Is RSD "better" than recovery flashable? (I guess that's actually TWO questions
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I guess it would be a matter of opinion. A lot of people prefer to fastboot over flashing in recovery. By that, I mean flashing through ADB. I don't know much about it (still learning), but I think you can flash a .zip with ADB and this eliminates having to save it to the phone, etc. I think devs use this method a lot. I need to get more comfortable with ADB before I start doing this. As for RSD, you can only flash .xml files. Most of the ROMs that are in .xml format are purely stock ROMs. I know there's a way to convert .zip to .zip.xml but I don't know how. Also, RSD seems to always cause issues. I used RSD to restore my M and it failed three times, for no apparent reason. I pushed it again and it worked on the fourth try.
That's what I thought. And I've had the same experiences with ADB. Thank you for your help and quick responses. I'm still learning as well, and its nice to have input from someone with more experience. Much appreciated.
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Finally got a nexus s, & wanna start experimenting with root & ROMs, but i used to htc sense phones in which i can just use stock rom exe to go back to stock ROM, how do i do the same thing with my nexus s, i mean if something goes wrong is there any way of going back to stock ROM,
don't say just do the nandroid, because that means rooting first, can somebody please help me on this one
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if you want experimenting with your NS you have to root the phone first. It is really easy to root the nexus s, just have a look at this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
and then you can make a nandroid backup, like what you said.
if somethings goes wrong anyway, there is a way to go to stock as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884093
just try, in worst case you can go to stock
The answer is Nandroid.
Nexus phones are different. Super easy.
Fastboot OEM unlock
Accept the warning
Fastboot flash recovery blah.img
Make nandroid, mount it back it up etc. Then flash whatever rom u want.
If u want to go back to stock, nandroid recover then
Fastboot OEM lock
say yes and you're back to stock.
-Nexus S
It is NOT necessary to oem unlock the phone to flash clockwork or a custom rom. See this method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931865
Also, if you're going to oem unlock, be aware it completely wipes all data off the phone, including anything on the sdcard you may have put there (like pics from the camera).
Finally, the most bizarre thing about the original post is that you're willing to flash custom roms, but not to root? Huh? You're aware that most custom roms come PRE-ROOTED, aren't you? What's the difference? Just curious....
By the way, Google's own blog states they intentionally made this phone easy to root and add customizations to...it's extremely safe and easy.
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It is NOT necessary to oem unlock the phone to flash clockwork or a custom rom. See this method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931865
Also, if you're going to oem unlock, be aware it completely wipes all data off the phone, including anything on the sdcard you may have put there (like pics from the camera).
Finally, the most bizarre thing about the original post is that you're willing to flash custom roms, but not to root? Huh? You're aware that most custom roms come PRE-ROOTED, aren't you? What's the difference? Just curious....
By the way, Google's own blog states they intentionally made this phone easy to root and add customizations to...it's extremely safe and easy.
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thanks for the info, i said, i want a way to going back, i want root, why the hell not?
polandy posted above a perfect guide to return back to stock just as shipped through manufacturer. Just make sure you relock the BOOTLOADER for any warranty purposes. Now you can flash all you want and can go back to "stock". Here is the link again, http://theunlockr.com/2011/01/20/how-to-unroot-the-nexus-s/
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thanks for the info, i said, i want a way to going back, i want root, why the hell not?
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I misunderstood you. You can flash cwm without rooting first, I think you could try nandroid before rooting.
Don't forget we have Odin now to return to stock......
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sarge363 said:
Don't forget we have Odin now to return to stock......
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Stock version of a European ROM from an unknown (though not necessarily untrusted) source...
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sarge363 said:
Don't forget we have Odin now to return to stock......
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How do u do that? I had Samsung galaxy s first so I know what Odin is, can you please post the link to rom or image.
dryspuri said:
How do u do that? I had Samsung galaxy s first so I know what Odin is, can you please post the link to rom or image.
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Search is your friend, but here it is for ya: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947950
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Stock version of a European ROM from an unknown (though not necessarily untrusted) source...
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I did not know there was a European version of the Nexus S..... build says GRH78 which is stock for "US"......
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sarge363 said:
I did not know there was a European version of the Nexus S..... build says GRH78 which is stock for "US"......
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I didn't say a there was European version of the Nexus S (yet)...but it's well known that there is one coming. I said this was a European version of the ROM.
Did you read the thread that has the files? The first post says that the guy obtained it from Samsung service center in England. Then someone asked if there was a US version, and no one corrected him in saying that this one was or wasn't. Granted, Samsung England could easily have access to US ROMs from the Samsung mothership, so that alone is not proof it is European.
However, if you download the rar file from that thread, and unrar it, you'll see that it contains a file named "CSC_I9020_EUR.tar" which is clearly a EURopean CSC file, making this a European ROM.
The PDA file's images may be 100% the same as a stock US phone, but until someone flashes this stuff from Odin and somehow runs a diff against a stock US ROM, I'm not assuming it's the same thing just on faith. You're welcome too, of course.
What's interesting to me is that there is a CSC at all. I don't think our Nexus S uses it, or at least it doesn't use it in the same way as the Samsung issued ROMS do. CSC is carrier specific customizations, if you're not familiar with it; it's a way to add bloatware and carrier settings to the phone.
I see some topics about it. I plan to unlock and root as soon as I get the phone.
Just how important is it to backup this, and anything else I should backup too?
its pretty important.. nothing can go wrong by backing it up. once you root it back it up just in case so your new phone wont be a $600 paperweight!
When you install CWM do a nandroid backup of stock
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its pretty important.. nothing can go wrong by backing it up. once you root it back it up just in case so your new phone wont be a $600 paperweight!
When you install CWM do a nandroid backup of stock
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That's good to hear. I figured I'd make stock backup too. Having stock rooted won't mess it up I'd presume? Is there an app that does it too?
I have flashed all the roms available, including CM10 and had no trouble with IMEI. Always good to backup though. There's a fairly simple process in the CM10 OP.
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I have flashed all the roms available, including CM10 and had no trouble with IMEI. Always good to backup though. There's a fairly simple process in the CM10 OP.
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It's built in I assume?
Recon0212 said:
That's good to hear. I figured I'd make stock backup too. Having stock rooted won't mess it up I'd presume? Is there an app that does it too?
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once rooted and you have installed clockwork mod recovery or TWRP you can make a back up of your whole phone..this will not mess up anything. You can get these two recoveries by using the ez recovery app on google play....... To make a backup in the recovery it will say backup and restore as one of the main options
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once rooted and you have installed clockwork mod recovery or TWRP you can make a back up of your whole phone..this will not mess up anything. You can get these two recoveries by using the ez recovery app on google play
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Sorry I don't think I was clear, I know about ROMs cause I do it on my Incredible. What I meant was backing up my IMEI
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Sorry I don't think I was clear, I know about ROMs cause I do it on my Incredible. What I meant was backing up my IMEI
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O my bad you have to be rooted in order to run the operation through a terminal emulator app
If you poke around in development there's one for Mac/Ubuntu (I think Ubuntu anyway) that does root and clockwork recovery from your computer, and that's what I use because it's pretty quick and easy.
If it can ever be important you should make a backup of it though. Since fixing things is always a process, having comprehensive resources for it can trim a lot of time.
Using QPST it only took me like 5 minutes to back mine up. Really simple. Then I put a copy of the file on my HD, on my phone's SD card and one on my Google drive. Now I'm sure I can't lose it. LoL they are small files too. Under 500kb
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I’d like to look further into it.
I lost my IMEI and other connection data with a bad flash of a CM10 nightly. I had to do a lot of stuff, including manually typing in my IMEI using QPST and then returning my phone to the Verizon store for them to do some factory-reset style stuff to it before I got connectivity again. (Even though I was bone-stock with a re-locked bootloader they still knew I had rooted and messed with the kernel and other stuff, btw). And its not completely correct, even though I am in my home service area I constantly have the flashing grey triangle that says I am doing international roaming. Pretty weird. So long story short, backup IMEI and everything else BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING.
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Using QPST it only took me like 5 minutes to back mine up. Really simple. Then I put a copy of the file on my HD, on my phone's SD card and one on my Google drive. Now I'm sure I can't lose it. LoL they are small files too. Under 500kb
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That's good, I'll probably put it on my Skydrive then too.
Is there a high chance of losing it on flashing though? I just plan to flash CM10 really.
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That's good, I'll probably put it on my Skydrive then too.
Is there a high chance of losing it on flashing though? I just plan to flash CM10 really.
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Yes, there's always a chance you'll loose it. Better to be safe, than sorry. It only takes a couple of minutes to backup and it may save you the hassle of an exchange.
I backed up the IMEI using this method ( QPST) http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32397-tutorial-imei-backup-nv-with-qpst-us-variants/ It doesn't say should i reset the modems to mtp-adb?
it doesn't say and i would have posted it there but the guy at the end of the thread seems like he is all pissy if you ask any questions. thanks guys
Check out this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255
Flash the file in the OP in cwm recovery for an easy backup. NOTE: Your bootloader must be unlocked for it to work.
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thanks bro i did that one first but they say do all of them just in case. so i did .
dear all,
has anybody tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940630
Already rooted, going to try it on a demo phone at work,
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I tried it today works great, thanks posting it here i wanted root but didnt want unlock it.
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Thanks a lot for confirming this as I am in the same boat. I will eventually unlock based on the fact that I hear you can't have custom recovery unless you unlock. I also came from a samsung epic and I haven't quite gotten the moto lingo down so I don't quite follow the boot and fastboot stuff yet. I think i have pieced together that moto has a better stock recovery than Samsung therefor you don't necessarily need a custom recovery to flash stuff if unlocked, but please correct me if I have assumed to much. Thx again.
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bryanfritz1 said:
Thanks a lot for confirming this as I am in the same boat. I will eventually unlock based on the fact that I hear you can't have custom recovery unless you unlock. I also came from a samsung epic and I haven't quite gotten the moto lingo down so I don't quite follow the boot and fastboot stuff yet. I think i have pieced together that moto has a better stock recovery than Samsung therefor you don't necessarily need a custom recovery to flash stuff if unlocked, but please correct me if I have assumed to much. Thx again.
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I unlocked and trashed the stock recovery and ported TWRP immediately after getting the device...
BUT with that said, typically stock recoveries will only flash signed/stock stuffs. So I doubt you'll be able to install anything aftermarket with their stock recovery... Obviously I don't know if this is true or not, I never even had stock reco on long enough to find out .
This worked great for me. No unlocked bootloader prior to running the script.
Now if only I could get wifi tether working...
bryanfritz1 said:
Thanks a lot for confirming this as I am in the same boat. I will eventually unlock based on the fact that I hear you can't have custom recovery unless you unlock. I also came from a samsung epic and I haven't quite gotten the moto lingo down so I don't quite follow the boot and fastboot stuff yet. I think i have pieced together that moto has a better stock recovery than Samsung therefor you don't necessarily need a custom recovery to flash stuff if unlocked, but please correct me if I have assumed to much. Thx again.
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no stock recovery can flash OTA's and thats all
i was wondering how long it would take people to find this . reason why i dindt post it? next OTA that comes and wipes it out youve gutta wait until a new exploit is found... or unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery.
Install ota rootkeeper from the market and you will keep root through an update. Works great. I obviously haven't used the app on the photon q but it worked on a few other devices.
Having said that, sometimes updates come with different bootloaders and sometimes you don't want a newer bootloader.
Over the past month or so I have tried several times to update my S3 with the Jelly Bean update from Verizon. Each time I try it I get a message that the software failed to install.
O I need to unroot the phone and lock the bootloader in order to update? Anyone else had this problem? Right now I am on Android version 4.0.4 and I think the update is 4.1.2.
I believe for the official update you have to be unrooted and have a locked bootloader unless you do it from kies where it can revert it complete to stock and unroot it.
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I believe for the official update you have to be unrooted and have a locked bootloader unless you do it from kies where it can revert it complete to stock and unroot it.
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You are 100% correct. Update will fail due to custom recovery. OP, why not download one of the many JB ROMS from the development section and flash it? Not only will it update your phone, it will be much better than stock as well as easier to install.
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You are 100% correct. Update will fail due to custom recovery. OP, why not download one of the many JB ROMS from the development section and flash it? Not only will it update your phone, it will be much better than stock as well as easier to install.
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I have not yet ventured into flashing other ROMS but am certainly willing to give it a try. I know there are many available but can you suggest one or two that i can try.
Really tough to suggest a ROM, there are a lot of different options depending on what you are looking for. Clean ROM is pretty much stock that has been optimized, I would probably start there since you have only done stock. You can then make a nandroid and flash other ROMS and see which one you like the best.
Just remember, read all of the stickies so that you have everything backed up in case something goes wrong. It takes less time to read and learn it before you have a problem and then don't have what you need to fix it nor the know-how.
Okay, so I download a ROM zip file. I copy it to me microSD card. I have TWRP on my phone. I assume I just go into recovery mode, wipe the cache and Dalvik cache and then just install the zip via TWRP. Is that all I need to do?
Never mind. I just flashed the Jelly_Beans10 ROM and it works fine.
I was unlocked on JB and went with the kk ota. I now want to go back to JB. Can I restore from an old 4.1 backup. I was using a different version of twrp when making the backup.
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Bunch of lookers...anybody want ho help a poor guy out?
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Did you search in the forum? Is possible go back to JB I remember I see a guide but I can't remember which post. Maybe an experienced member like @Orphee can help you
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Bunch of lookers...anybody want ho help a poor guy out?
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you can defiantly go back, i just dont know what will happen as far as twrp is concerned.
seems like at some point you would have a compatibility issue with the old software and the new twrp.
but i never tried it, therefore i didnt post to help you with inaccurate information.
there is a guide in my sig (skip down to the relevant parts), that will get you back to jb, but it is a proven method and doesnt involve restoring any backups.
Thanks for the response. I saw the guide. I'm just not that familiar with rsd. Thought restoring an old backup would be much simpler if it would work.
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Thanks for the response. I saw the guide. I'm just not that familiar with rsd. Thought restoring an old backup would be much simpler if it would work.
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You can't restore an old backup. You can flash back to stock JB, but at that point, you cannot use any of the old ROMs as they need the old JB bootloader, which is now running the KK bootloader. That is in a trusted partition that you cannot downgrade at all. So, trying to use old JB-based ROMs will no longer work. So, if you were planning on going back to a JB-based custom ROM, it won't work from what I know once you have upgrade to KK.
But, if you want to go back to stock JB, then yes, that is possible.
You can use SamuriHL's RSD Flasher (which is in beta) -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/48904-rsd-flasher-beta-windows-only/
Or, you can use his House of Moto tool which is here -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/28162-house-of-moto-25/
He lists the instructions in both posts, so read, read and re-read a third time before you even attempt to flash back to JB. Three readings usually causes the light bulb to finally go off and it ensures you understand everything. If at that point you don't understand, then ask questions (and be sure you state you read it three times). Usually, people who do read three times figure it out and have no issues.
That's your only option at this point or stay on KK.
So there's no way to go back to the JB bootloader?
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So there's no way to go back to the JB bootloader?
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Like i said, no. It's in a trusted zone. You'll still have the KK bootloader installed, but you'll be able to flash back to stock JB and boot that.
You might be able to make it work, but as @bweN diorD stated, it's not a proven method to flash back to old ROMs nor use old nandroid backups.
I myself use Titanium Backup Pro to backup my apps and data and that works fine.