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After a research I made selections for a new purchase.
It will be:
-SE Xperia Neo
or
-Samsung Nexus S
I like both casing shape/design.
Specifications are very similar --> http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3734&idPhone2=3620
Would one of them serve better?
I'd like to hear pros/cons
Importan to me:
-camera/video (Neo +1)
-screen size (Nexus +1)
-price little higher for Neo, but it is also newer model (tie)
-music reproduction (internet radio) (?)
-speed (?)
-stability (?)
I have Nokia N8 now and I feel it as slow phone. Can I expect significant improvement in speed with Neo/Nexus?
p.s. I like both of them having Skype video calling possibility
(alternative: HTC Incredible S, but expensiver)
Nexus S hands down.
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If I'd have had a Nokia N8 I wouldn't have bought the NxS, especially not with the new update for Symbian out.
Thanks for answers!
I like my Nokia N8 very much for the design and very much for the camera,
but speed and reliability is very low. It's killing me for that. Also big reason I want to change is I can't find good internet radio player (and music player). Best I could find is TuneWiki player. But often it doesn't work as it should and it's slow.
At the moment I'm thinking of Xperia Neo, but it costs less than my current phone (N8), so I'm worried if I'll get worse
I don't care about software system. Maybe I'd just like to test android, but also symbian would be good if it worked as it should. (I had WP7 -good system, but there's no suitable phone out yet. Maybe after WP7 Mango)
I don't play with thousands of applications. Just need calls, music player, camera, web-browser, Skype, Navigation, USB Tethering and some little more to work good and fast.
Would Xperia Neo be better than Nokia N8?
iPhone is too expensive and I don't like the style . I'd like to have and wait for Nokia N9 Meego, but it looks like it will be very expensive too.
alternatives:
1.HTC Incredible S (Is it better than Xperia Neo?)
2.Galaxy S II (almost too big size; don't like the design very much; maybe too powerfull phone)
3.HTC Sensation (almost too big size; it heats too much; maybe too powerfull phone)
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After seeing few pages, I'll maybe wait for Nokia N9
--> http://www.nokiaphones.net/nokia-n9-preview/
--> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110828071831AAMnSwR
--> http://dailymobile.se/2011/08/26/nokia-n9-ui-demo/
HTC Incredible, if you dont mind paying more for a better product.
Nokia N9 is a great phone, first Nokia device worth buying after N95 8GB. I would like to have one .
Don't know about SE Neo, generally I do't like SE customization of Android, but someone would think different.
Nexus S has a great form factor, not too big, and it's amazing fast with stock Android, feels faster then some HTC devices with more power, like Sensation.
After all, it's just matter of taste. So, you should go to local phone store and check some of them...or wait for N9 ...
I just had allready agreed buying Nexus S second hand today afternoon, but I canceled it.
I'll wait a bit really, maybe for Nokia N9. HTC Incredible S is still option also.
Yesterday I had some troubles with N8 again and it was too impulsive thing buying other phone in a haste.
I was a Nokia fanboy for years until a friend showed my his Android phone. I went straight out and got the HTC Hero, I now have the Nexus S. You really really won't be disappointed if you got one. I wont be going back to Nokia at all, old OS and clunky with it.
EDIT: Fire is out, only considering the Springboard and the 7.0 Plus now; too many features missing for me. Anyway...
Decided against upgrading my phone (HTC G2) simply because it's stable, battery life is good, and has a good keyboard. So I'm looking to complement it with a 7" tablet. Main uses would be web browsing, books, and videos (both online and on the device); gaming would be pretty low in priority, so I'm not sure if Exynos means much to me as a result.
The Huawei Mediapad has the higher screen resolution/density, and apparently looks great outdoors and in general. I like the aluminum build, even if it adds weight/thickness. I also like that the cameras are pretty good. And I really like the separate, non-proprietary microUSB and mini-HDMI ports; being able to charge it with the same charger as my phone is a big plus.
The 7.0 Plus also seems to be a great all-around tablet, between it being lightweight, the screen quality, and other set of features (like Exynos). The IR emitter is a nice feature, but I'm not sure if I'd use it much (not one for entertainment centers). And I'm not sure if the screen quality is worth giving up nice resolution/density of the Springboard. And as mentioned, I'm not a fan of proprietary chargers. It has Bluetooth 3.0, although I'm not sure if that translates into better audio quality with a Bluetooth headset. There's also extra Wifi functions - dual-band and direct - although I don't know if I'd ever use either.
Basically, it comes down to:
Non-proprietary ports, higher screen resolution, better rear camera
vs
Lighter/slimmer build, Exynos, screen quality, IR emitter, Bluetooth 3.0, dual-band Wifi, and Wifi direct
A question for international users, is there a tablet available which can make phone calls too? Probably I could replace my cell phone with a 7inch tablet?
Please note: I am planning to use a Bluetooth headsets, if someone is wondering how it will look holding a 7 or 10” tablet to your ears: D
jijus said:
A question for international users, is there a tablet available which can make phone calls too? Probably I could replace my cell phone with a 7inch tablet?
Please note: I am planning to use a Bluetooth headsets, if someone is wondering how it will look holding a 7 or 10” tablet to your ears: D
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I'm almost positive both of the international versions of the original Galaxy Tab 7 and the Plus can make calls - check out the forums for more details of either, as I'm not sure how data ends up as a result; I think in the case of the original, by making it work with voice you give up 3G (and get 2G instead).
I believe Huawei and ZTE also make at least one 7" tablet each that can make phone calls by default.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note, which is a fantastic and relatively well-powered Android device offering enhanced idea capturing through the S-Pen and great media-consumption via its massive 5.3" screen, and was wondering whether I'd still need a tablet. Since I am avid iTunes user on my laptop PC, I was wondering whether a combination of my Android phone coupled with the latest iPad would work well? Siri is also coming to iPad thanks to iOS 6, which makes it more appealing.
Been using the moto x 2013 for some time now and its just about perfect. I dont game, my use is heavy on web, text. The problem with my X is that the microphone doesnt seem to work anymore, I have to carry a wired or bluetooth to talk on the phone...which is a pain.
I want something small, similar in size, to replace it. Ive narrowed it down to a S4 or LG G2. Which would you guys recommend? Anyone else make a move from the X 2013 to one of these models?
Thanks,
Mario
If it is bought new, sure. But second hand you can get more recent models at the same prices.
Based solely on the specs, I would go for the G2. When I'm looking for a phone the first thing I look at is the performance, and, looking at the hardware, the G2 is better equipped than the S4. But this is just on paper.
For all I know, the real world performance may be the same.
I am satisfied with the S4
Thanks. Yeah either the G2 or S4 new is what I want, just curious to hear what folks think getting a 2.5 year old device. Id get a new flagship but all of them are just too big.
Get the snapdragon variant. The exynos overheats
S4 is still a very good phone: it can run without problems marshmallow custom roms and you can play on it big games like fifa 16 or asphalt. But if you want a good new phone and almost same dimensions like s4, I recommand OnePlus X.
I don't think S4 will be a good idea now. I had both versions (GT-I9500 and GT-I9505) before I moved for Xperia Z3 D6643. Unfortunately, I have damaged my Z3 and until it got fixed, I will be using the GT-i9505 again.
This phone is driving me crazy, even with max brightness, it's impossible (looks like a black screen) to use it under sunligh. 3G, and 4G (not to talk about GPS) data drains a huge % of battery, average screen on time is about 3-3,5h, no battery optmizations.
The Z3 (5.2") and Z3 compact (4.6") are the best options when talking about cost x benefit. Almost 10h screen on time and +800h standby time.
Thanks all. I kept looking and looking for new S4 or g2 but everything out on the Bay was new "other" or sellers with tons of negative feedback. Lots of positive but also much negative. I just saw no trusty sellers. Ended up pulling trigger on oneplus x. Now the wait for it begins. Hope oxygen is decent.
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i have S4 now frome aboute 1 year and realy i am happy with
run very very good i have add the QI modul and it run official rom until custome have no bug ( zero bug ) actualy custom rom have some BT problem and i use My S4 with my smart watch here why BT are important now if you see forum you have big chois of rom ( custom ) and all tested and run very very well on S4 personaly i change phone until S4 are dead hahaha but LG have an Good support in my watch runing official 6.0 firmware LG give quicly update whet are roling out but samsung are still on 5.0.1 bad guys samsung
@spawk
Samsung has it's own update cycle. Most flagships get support from Samsung up to 2 years after released.
And, in 2016, Galaxy S4 won't be supported anymore.
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The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.
You could also try i9506 S4 LTE+/LTE A
Ive been using this device for a long time now. Recently broke my galaxy note 3's lcd and sold my lg g2. Back on my i9506 and still good. Its not far with g2 in terms performance. Although I use 2 batteries on my i9506 but hey, great device
Usama707 said:
The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.
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Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.
GDReaper said:
Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.
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Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds
Usama707 said:
Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds
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There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.
GDReaper said:
There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.
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I Dont like much bass either but the sound of i9505 compared to Sony Xperia Z2,Galaxy Grand Prime,Galaxy J5,Galaxy Ace 3 and the desktop computer is really flat and lacking.I can hear more elements in even samsungs lowest end phones than i9505 using the same earphones
Stay away from S4.
- Lollipop roms are okay but not very fast.
- Exynos AND snapdragon can overheat actually depends on the kernel.
- microphone distortion (personally) which I can hear as I play back the call recording
- not as fast or smooth as I expected for quad core when I previously had S5 mini
- Sometimes run out of ram but not too often
Generally just don't expect much. The specs look really good on paper but it's actually not that good a phone.
The screen resolution is very high which is nice.
Camera quality / focus is average as well. Slow to focus. Quality average.
I suggest buy 2nd hand used S5 or S6.
Unfortunately no S6 mini.
@fatjoez
1. Really? 5.1.1 is okay for me.
2. I've a device with Intel processor and it does the same thing. In short: All CPUs could overheat.
3. -skipped-
4. Blame Samsung's policies.
5. I'm only felt it on TW ROMs.
And no, I won't buy Exynos devices. Devices with Snapdragon SOCs are the best choice.
But, it's up to you. I couldn't interfere your mind.
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Well I bought a oneplus x. Been using it for one day and I'm not sure about it. Works OK. Speed us good but it's just too big. I just wish I could find a phone the same size as the 2013 moto x. Now I'm thinking either a S4 or Z5 compact. :/
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yea well,
I don't know how it seems not to be an issue for most people ... I have used the old Moto G (1. Gen, XT1032) for years and, now, decided to upgrade to the new and way more sophisticated G4 Plus (XT1642). I have to say I love the phone in pretty much all regards, but this one major drawback is just making me sad. It's not possible to listen to music on it anymore (using the audio jack) once you compare it to the good old Moto G.
The DAC quality just went as bad as cheap Samsung phones, in my opinion.
If there is anyone here with an old Moto G at home, just try it. Use the same source & headphones (e.g. Jaya the Cat - Blur). The difference is unbelievable. One enters into another (music) world listening on the Moto G. The G4 Plus just doesn't sound pleasant at all...
Consider getting a good pair of bluetooth headphones with aptx support.
You can turn the awful response to a GREAT sound using viper4android. You will need to root the phone, install TWRP and several zip files and do some configuration in order to make it work (installing drivers and enabling the dsp is not enough to make it process the audio). There is a guide to the installation process for our phones (make moto g4 plus viper4andoid scream or similar)
Spotify is a bad example, because the free version is highly compressed (lossy).
I am not sure why people use phones for music, it is not how real music should be listened. Get an external DAC and use only FLAC files.
However, I agree that a pair of GOOD Bluetooth headphones, with AptX support might be better, and only because Qualcomm included AptX support in their Snapdragon the MotoG4Plus has AptX. Today's Moto by Lenovo doesn't even know if their phones support AptX, last time they checked that on the MotoX and MotoG first gen, when Motorola cared about their brand:
https://www.aptx.com/products?field...d_product_brand_tid=2&field_aptx_type_tid=All
You can use an USB DAC with an OTG cable.
Yes, these would be the options...
Just sad, as I already have expensive Headphones and don't like to use an external DAC. I wonder, why the DAC of the Moto G so awesome sounds? You should really test it, it's an amazing difference...
Does anyone know by chance which DAC chip they built into this old Moto G?
d4fuQQ said:
yea well,
I don't know how it seems not to be an issue for most people ... I have used the old Moto G (1. Gen, XT1032) for years and, now, decided to upgrade to the new and way more sophisticated G4 Plus (XT1642). I have to say I love the phone in pretty much all regards, but this one major drawback is just making me sad. It's not possible to listen to music on it anymore (using the audio jack) once you compare it to the good old Moto G.
The DAC quality just went as bad as cheap Samsung phones, in my opinion.
If there is anyone here with an old Moto G at home, just try it. Use the same source & headphones (e.g. Jaya the Cat - Blur). The difference is unbelievable. One enters into another (music) world listening on the Moto G. The G4 Plus just doesn't sound pleasant at all...
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What audio app are you using? I get the opposite when I use Google play music. I make sure it is downloaded before I play it. I have found it is nearly the same or a little better with the new G4. I have the regular G4. If you are using Pandora or Spotify they are not good for audio quality so I wouldn't assume they would be good baseline.
Make sure it's not downloaded to an SD. Has caused me issues when I did so I have to use internal storage. Latency issues.
Personally I use my ear pods from my old IPhone and it works good. Bluetooth never sounds right and any headphones that cost more than $10 aren't worth it to me. If your really concerned then I would recommend an iPod and not use your phone.
Try the nougat soak test once, there is a significant increase in audio quality..currently only Custom ROMs having the new audio quality are 7.1 ROMs by vache and shreps.
I'm using PowerAmp music player and I found it is great (my only option from a lot of players). So I bought it. I suggest you try that once. Moto G4 Plus is my first from the brand so IDK about previous generations. Also n7 Music player is also nice but it needs a lot of internal memory for album artwork. The inbuilt Audio Effects app sucks and it feels cheap. Coming from a Music phone (Xperia) to Moto is really disappointing. It's all Google and Lenovo now.
I have no issues on my moto g4 plus . I am quite particular about clear sound too . I have found it to be just nice . So far only tested it with online radio. Streaming for 94.3 Bangalore as well as Mumbai on 1cast.in .Sounds excellent . I connect the phone to my pre amp which is is also connected to an amplifier with the phono to rca cable . Of course it's like vintage audio stereo system with vintage speakers too . Sound is excellent . clear clear like a 192 Kbps feel but it might probably be 128kbps cause usually online radio stations give u that .
I even compared it with my IPhone 6s on the same stereo system . I did not find any noticeable difference maybe the iphone is 2% clearer but I don't notice it at all . .
I also have the moto g2 . Will compare that too since some people here say their old moto g seemed better regarding quality of output
In short I think the moto g4 plus has a good sound output . I wish I knew the specs like what sound card is in if it has 3dac or not like the iPhone 6s
Maybe your phone is damaged.
I compared my Moto g4 with a DVD-a player. Used the same file of a dsd track. Connected the phone to the amp via RCA. No difference.