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I've been wanting to get my feet wet in android tablet land for quite some time. I would like the following features:
pdf/ebook reading with bookmarking / highlighting / notes
GPS (I already have a bluetooth gps module if that helps) for dash-mounted in-car navigation
bluetooth keyboard support (official or unofficial i really don't care but it's got to be there).
fast web surfing / display effects
the ability to run honeycomb (even if it's unsupported)
preferably some kind of decent camera on for skype / snapshots though i suppose i could do without it...
I have not yet fully decided on a 7" or 10" tablet but I would find some additional convenience with the smaller of the 2 as I plan to do some reading on this. also, as I will be doing lots of reading, I need a display resolution of at least 1024x600 and aprox. equivalent dpi or better for 10" tablet.
I've looked at the nook color and it seems like a really nice tablet but it seems kind of sluggish for the really high price of $250... if i could find one of these in the $150-200 range I could probably be convinced to go with one of these.
I've also looked at the viewsonic G tablet and was impressed with the underlying tegra2 hardware but very disappointed with the display viewing angle, and to a slightly lesser extent display resolution. I think it's going price of ~250 would be warranted if the display were actually good (high resolution and good viewing angle).
Does anybody have any other ideas for very inexpensive, high resolution, fast tablets that I should be looking at, or perhaps some kind of epic deals? (i'm ok with used if i could find something i'm happy with even).
Thanks,
Cpgeek
My Original Thread on ArmTVtech. For bigger pics follow the link.
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=565&t=74110
Today we're unboxing the Tronsmart PS7 Otca-Core Phablet.
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For those of you that are unfamiliar with the PS7 here are the specs:
7" 1920x1200 LTPS Screen
MTK6592 Octa-core SOC at 1.7Ghz
2GB of Ram
16GB of Internal Storage
Wifi B/G
BT
Micro-SD card Slot
Dual-Sim slots(1 micro-sim, 1 sim)
5MP Front Camera
13MP Rear Camera w/Flash
Micro-USB OTG port
Headphone Jack
Volume/Power Buttons
3500mAh Removeable Battery
GPS
2G:GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G:WCDMA 850/2100MHz
Android 4.2.2
We ordered that Tronsmart PS7 in black from Geekbuying. It arrived in under 6 days from China to NYC.
In a few days we'll have a full review up, but for now here is the unboxing!
Nicely Airpacked!
The box comes in a Tronsmart cardboard sleeve.
Top of the box.
Bottom of box.
Back hinge side of box.
Front clasp side of box. This actually has magnets in it to keep it closed.
Opened!
Some extra IMEI stickers included.
Underneath phablet tray is the User Manual and Screen Protector.
Side compartment contains Micro-USB Cable, Headphones, and Power Adapter.
Everything Unpacked.
Tronsmart PS7 Front.
Front(Closer).
Back.
Left Side with Volume +/-
Right Side with Power.
Bottom with Micro-USB OTG port.
Top with 3.5mm Headphone Jack.
Back Open.
Back open with Battery removed.
3500mAh Battey.
First Boot.
That amazing 7" 1920x1200 Screen!
Lastly a sneek peek at the settings menu.
This phablet is a beast! I've been using it for 2 days and can't put it down!
Don't forget to come back in a few days for a full review.
We're going to put the Tronsmart PS7 through a a bunch of tests and find out just how long that battery will last in this 7" Phablet!
Tronsmart PS7 Review
Original Link:
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=565&t=74134
Note: The original link has bigger pics because it's not resized by photobucket.
Tronsmart PS7 Review!
Tronsmart has been on a roll lately with it's devices. I've reviewed several of them recently and have been impressed.
For the past week I have been reviewing the Tronsmart PS7 Octa-Core Phablet.
Mod Edit: Commercial links removed.
For those of you that are unfamiliar with the PS7 here are the specs:
7" 1920x1200 LTPS Screen
MTK6592 Octa-core SOC at 1.7Ghz
2GB of Ram
16GB of Internal Storage
Wifi B/G
BT
Micro-SD card Slot
Dual-Sim slots(1 micro-sim, 1 sim)
5MP Front Camera
13MP Rear Camera w/Flash
Micro-USB OTG port
Headphone Jack
Volume/Power Buttons
3500mAh Removeable Battery
GPS
2G:GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G:WCDMA 850/2100MHz
Android 4.2.2
What's in the Box:
Tronsmart PS7
Headphones
Micro-USB cable
Power Adapter
User Manual
Screen Protector
First Impressions:
The Tronsmart PS7 is really massive for a phone, but when you consider it's intended purpose as a Phablet, then you'll see it's quite reasonable in size.
Thin bezels make the PS7 appear smaller than it actually is. If comparing to many 7" tablets out there you can see it's smaller.
Size Comparisons:
Tronsmart PS7(7"), iNew i2000(5.7"), Zopo ZP980+(5"), iOcean X7(5")
As you can see the PS7 is a bit larger than the i2000.
It dwarfs the X7.
And the ZP980+
First Start:
When I first booted the PS7 I was a little worried. The first boot took around 90 seconds. This is a little longer than I am used to.
A reboot had the PS7 running in about 18 seconds.
The first thing you notice about the PS7 is the screen. The 1920x1200 screen is HUGE and very BRIGHT!
It's so bright that I had to turn it down to minimum in order be comfortable in a darker room.
The details, colors, and viewing angles are quite good.
No complaints about the touchscreen. It supports up to 10 simultaneous touches.
The PS7 has a good feel in my hands. It's a little too big for one handed use, but lends itself to two hand with no issues.
Often on a larger device with bezels this thin I'll have accidental taps from holding it. I didn't experience that with the PS7.
It's just the right size.
I popped a 64GB microsd card into the back of the PS7, connected to my wifi and was downloading apps within minutes.
The About Phone Screen lists the following items:
Model number:
PS7
Android Version:
4.2.2
Kernel Version:
3.4.39 [email protected] #1 Tue Mar 18 15:25:55 CST 2014
Build Number:
2719_v92_gq3015_20140325
Baseband Version:
MOLY.WR8.W1315.MD.V21.P1, 2014/01/16 15:51
The Tronsmart PS7 comes without root access. I actually prefer it this way. Certain apps tend to be angry if root is detected.
It's good to have a choice.
Cellular Connectivity:
Using the PS7 as a phone is a pleasant experience. I didn't notice any odd echos, and the speakerphone works fine.
It is a little daunting to hold a 7" phablet next to my head, so I recommend a bt headset.
I wasn't expecting 3G to work since the PS7 only supports 850/2100Mhz for WCDMA, but I guess At&t has 3G on 850Mhz around me now.
So I was able to get H speeds.(No H+ though)
Bluetooth:
I tested the bluetooth with a car radio, headset, bt boombox, and keyboards. The PS7 did well in all tests.
Battery Life:
The battery life on the PS7 is very decent. I found that with mixed use the 3500mAh battery lasted me the entire day.
I also found that on standby the PS7 just barely sips power. I managed to get over 4 days(wifi on, checking email every so often, minimal browsing)
For screen on time I was able to stream HD video to the PS7 for a little over 6 hours before I was down to 25% battery.
Personally I'd like to see phones or tablets with a double size battery option, but the 3500mAh seems to last long enough for me.
Wireless Display:
The settings menu has an option for Wireless Display, but there is no where to actually turn it on. I'm told that a new firmware update will fix this problem.
I'll be testing it out with my Tronsmart T1000 Ezcast dongle.
Media Playback:
I tested several apps to check how the Tronsmart PS7 plays media both locally and from the web.
XBMC:
The first one I downloaded was an XBMC stable build. I was expecting it to launch quickly and was not let down. It took about 5 seconds.
I was able to playback many 1080p and 720p files without any issues.
The 7" screen works well with XBMC, and for the first time on a phone I can use the onscreen keyboard!
With 2GB of ram there is plenty left over after launching XBMC.
MX Player:
The only real problem was with the audio codecs. I don't believe the MTK6592 has support for AC3 or DTS audio built in.
I had to choose software decoder for AC3 files and installed the DTS codecs for MX Player in order to get this to work.
Dice Player:
Most files played well in HW mode. The MTK6592 in the is more than addequate to playback 1080p in software decoding mode. DTS and AC3 were properly decoded and played back.
Netflix:
Videos played smooth in HD and subtitles/audio were in sync. At first it seemed that Netflix was having issues. It kept switching between high quality and low quality. A pause to let it buffer quickly ironed that out.
HBO Go:
Everything looked and sounded great.
Crackle:
Works like a charm.
GPS:
Left side indoors Right side outdoors wooded/cloudy area
I had no issues with GPS in the PS7. After turning it on I was locked onto 17 satellites within 12 seconds.(This was on a very clear day)
Accuracy was good within 4 feet. When compared to other MTK6592 phones, it seems like the PS7 has better than average GPS signal.
Compass:
The compass works well.
Google Sky Maps responded properly.
FM Radio:
One of my favorite things about the MTK chipsets I've used is the FM Radio.
The inlcuded headphones act as an antenna for the FM Radio. It's possible to record music and talkshows directly onto the PS7.
The FM Radio app also identifies what song and station are currently playing.
Wifi
Wifi reception is very good. My routers we're on the other side of the house.
Front Camera:
The front camera claims to be 5MP, but is most likely 3MP interpolated to 5MP. Quality is still decent.
Rear Camera:
The rear camera is 13MP, and provides a decent image. The flash works and is timed right, but it could be a little brighter. It's not too great for low light shots.
Considering most 7" tablets I've seen have 5MP rear cameras with no flash, the PS7 does well in this category.
Pics taken with PS7 in shade/no flashmore coming on next nice day)
Full size image link: http://www.armtvtech.com/ps7_pics/IMG_20140507_190303.jpg
Full size image link: http://www.armtvtech.com/ps7_pics/IMG_20140507_190317.jpg
Full size image link: http://www.armtvtech.com/ps7_pics/IMG_20140507_190401.jpg
Full size image link: http://www.armtvtech.com/ps7_pics/IMG_20140507_190412.jpg
Benchmarks:
I tested the PS7 with Antutu, Quadrant, Vellamo, GFXBench, 3DMark, and NenaMark2.
Antutu:
The PS7 scored 27482 on it's first try.
Quadrant Standard Edition:
The PS7 managed an impressive 14429.
Vellamo:
The PS7 scored a 2002 in the HTML 5 test and 676 in the METAL test.
GFXBench:
3DMark:
NenaMark2:
Conclusion:
The Tronsmart PS7 is a great phablet! This size is just about perfect. It's bigger than most phones, yet small enough to still fit in my jeans pocket.
Screen quality is a huge plus when browsing the web or watching videos. Performance is great even though it's running at 1920x1200 resolution.
I'll never have to carry my phone and my tablet with me. The PS7 replaces both!
My only real gripe with the PS7 is the lack of backlight for the navigation keys. This turns into a non-issue once you get used to the locations.
Stock Firmware:
coming soon
How to Root the Tronsmart PS7!
Original Link:
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=565&t=74135
How to Root the Tronsmart PS7!
It's super easy to get a basic root on the Tronsmart PS7.
Steps:
1)On the PS7 go into Settings-->Security--->Enable Unknown Sources
2)Download and install Framaroot-1.9.1 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
3)Launch Framaroot, Select the "Barahir" option and reboot
4)Enjoy your rooted PS7
Hi, waiting full review :laugh:
Wooow Tronsmart made Smartphones.
I hope that will be as well as their USB-Dongle !
I just finished the review... and its up!
Also quickly rooted with Framaroot. Now making a backup of the rooted stock rom.
Very interesting device.. but battery seems to be too small for 7". My note 5.3" with 2500mah and it still needs to be charged during the day..
Sent from my GT-N8000 using Tapatalk
EDIT-
link for 4.4.2
http://www.pandawillforum.com/showthread.php?25336-ROM-Ulefone-U7-new-firmware-update-04-23-2014
and here
(same guide for 2 basically identical phones named/branded differently)
http://www.pandawillforum.com/showt...-4-2-for-Ulephone-U7-Orientphone-Mega-Pro-7-0
EDIT 6/19
reverted back to 4.2.2 (Ebay crashes on opening item information even on fresh installs/reinstalls on 4.4 and more importantly super-low call and ringer volume on 4.4…so back to 4.2..also 4.2 recovery reliable and stable,.plus has touch)
Screen
Hello,
I just have a question. I haven't read any review about these 7" phablets where they comment about the screen glass. No vendor mention that they have a Gorilla glass, but I want to know if the screen is easy to scratch, or if the included screen protector is any good.
Thank you for your answer.
estuardo4 said:
Hello,
I just have a question. I haven't read any review about these 7" phablets where they comment about the screen glass. No vendor mention that they have a Gorilla glass, but I want to know if the screen is easy to scratch, or if the included screen protector is any good.
Thank you for your answer.
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Do not think this one (have the Orient Phone Mega Pro 7) has Gorilla glass..but no scratches despite some heavy and rough use...only Coolpad 9976A (not even Huawei media pad X1) claims Gorilla glass but you may want to check frequencies for calls etc. I think the protector is good but not smudge-resistant like olephobic screens..but then no worse (maybe better) than the Sony Xperia Ultra Z imo (smudge attractor)
Thank you for your answer. I come from using the Sony Z Ultra. This PS7 model obviously is not as sexy as the Ultra, but the problem is that I broke the Ultra screen and replacing it cost me the same as buying the PS7 new. The screen of the Ultra is really fragile. I hope the one from the PS7 is stronger.
estuardo4 said:
Thank you for your answer. I come from using the Sony Z Ultra. This PS7 model obviously is not as sexy as the Ultra, but the problem is that I broke the Ultra screen and replacing it cost me the same as buying the PS7 new. The screen of the Ultra is really fragile. I hope the one from the PS7 is stronger.
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Me too..just sold my Ultra Z today (not that this is the best looking phone but the screen brightness, reflectivity (less) and viewing angles superior to Ultra Z imo...the LTPS stuff is very good...just bought and sold for a significant loss the Sharp Aquos SH-06F (Snapdragon 801/32GB storage/4200maH) (latest model came out last month..awesome for holding as a 7 inch phone felt lighter than even the ultra Z and shorter! (they compressed even top bezel!)...amazing package..BUT..to me the IGZO panel was not as good as the LTPS on this one..also made by Sharp)..the SH-06F was otherwise perfect in every other aspect...and yes, one thing no updates unless on Docomo network (unless the Sharp website would post updates for downloading) though someone said you could change the APN to make it look it wants or is on a docomo APN (even though downloading done through wifi)
mac231us said:
Me too..just sold my Ultra Z today (not that this is the best looking phone but the screen brightness, reflectivity (less) and viewing angles superior to Ultra Z imo...the LTPS stuff is very good...just bought and sold for a significant loss the Sharp Aquos SH-06F (Snapdragon 801/32GB storage/4200maH) (latest model came out last month..awesome for holding as a 7 inch phone felt lighter than even the ultra Z and shorter! (they compressed even top bezel!)...amazing package..BUT..to me the IGZO panel was not as good as the LTPS on this one..also made by Sharp)..the SH-06F was otherwise perfect in every other aspect...and yes, one thing no updates unless on Docomo network (unless the Sharp website would post updates for downloading) though someone said you could change the APN to make it look it wants or is on a docomo APN (even though downloading done through wifi)
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I've never noticed the Sharp phone before. It looks really nice. But I bet it is a lot more expensive than the PS7. But that Sharp phone looks like the one to get. Is the screen really that bad, compared to the Sony Z Ultra? It is as tall as the Ultra, and a cm wider. How did you get a hold of it?
It is a shame I didn't join this discussion before.
Apologize to OP if message may not be about Tronsmart completely though is in part
estuardo4 said:
I've never noticed the Sharp phone before. It looks really nice. But I bet it is a lot more expensive than the PS7. But that Sharp phone looks like the one to get. Is the screen really that bad, compared to the Sony Z Ultra? It is as tall as the Ultra, and a cm wider. How did you get a hold of it?
It is a shame I didn't join this discussion before.
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it is almost 4-5 more expensive. You may be interested in the device (links below) (reminds me of the K900 Lenovo I had)...dialer looks similar also Intel Clover Trail CPU (however I remember rooting was not easy-but the k900 community evolved significantly with folks bundling root in the rom itself..who knows it probably even has deodexed rom now-there is a thread on xda but am talking of k900 lenovo)
noticed dd2 ram (some of these devices have ddr3 so not sure how much of a difference it makes when paired with a diff processor such as the Intel one..EDIT: they claim it is LPDDR2 which they say is better than DDR3)
again check frequencies as just saying 2g/3g does not mean much if your frequencies are not covered
http://cngadget.info/2014/05/20/best-deal-teclast-p79hd-3g-7-inch-2gb16gb-gps-only-112/
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/lat...-teclast-p79hd-3g-phablet-only-$112-5531.html
http://item.jd.com/1127503.html
in the meantime the Orient Phone/Ulefone/Tronsmart/Aonex etc phone folks have an improved version of the 7 inch phone (screen drivers etc)
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.w5001-2928202607.11.Q4wgl1&id=38719104855
more on the Sharp..although tablet news is saying it is 680USD, docomo's own site which is the only original source for this phone as it is docomo-branded has it over 88000Yen which takes it to the mid 800s USD. And then you need to get it sim unlocked-SO..
it is much more expensive..like over 4 times (on Ebay..one would think it was a ridiculous price and it was..but me being gadget buff got it-anyway sold it swallowed my loss learnt my lesson)...the screen had color/brightness shifts (like a TN panel) when tilting the phone from side to side on both axes..this is irritating as it is on laptops where you would move around less but even more so on a handheld device. IGZO may have better color gamut etc but seems to have worse viewing angles compared to this LTPS stuff that is on this Orienphone/Ulefone/Tronsmart/Aonex also made by Sharp..think IGZO has lower power consumption--you can search and read up on these as I do not know much about these.. however it has broader frequencies, awesome form factor for a 7 inch, super lightweight, very fast, bigger battery (4200maH) and responsive ...great signal and reception, call quality-drawback-no software updates none if not on docomo..though someone said you could trick it into thinking as on docomo by putting in a docomo apn (atlhough the software update itself is over wifi)..rooting etc? too early as too new a product...however in the end, screen is ultimate factor and therefore it fallls short
mac231us said:
it is almost 4-5 more expensive. You may be interested in the device (links below) (reminds me of the K900 Lenovo I had)...dialer looks similar also Intel Clover Trail CPU (however I remember rooting was not easy-but the k900 community evolved significantly with folks bundling root in the rom itself..who knows it probably even has deodexed rom now-there is a thread on xda but am talking of k900 lenovo)
noticed dd2 ram (some of these devices have ddr3 so not sure how much of a difference it makes when paired with a diff processor such as the Intel one..EDIT: they claim it is LPDDR2 which they say is better than DDR3)
again check frequencies as just saying 2g/3g does not mean much if your frequencies are not covered
http://cngadget.info/2014/05/20/best-deal-teclast-p79hd-3g-7-inch-2gb16gb-gps-only-112/
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/lat...-teclast-p79hd-3g-phablet-only-$112-5531.html
http://item.jd.com/1127503.html
in the meantime the Orient Phone/Ulefone/Tronsmart/Aonex etc phone folks have an improved version of the 7 inch phone (screen drivers etc)
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.w5001-2928202607.11.Q4wgl1&id=38719104855
more on the Sharp..although tablet news is saying it is 680USD, docomo's own site which is the only original source for this phone as it is docomo-branded has it over 88000Yen which takes it to the mid 800s USD. And then you need to get it sim unlocked-SO..
it is much more expensive..like over 4 times (on Ebay..one would think it was a ridiculous price and it was..but me being gadget buff got it-anyway sold it swallowed my loss learnt my lesson)...the screen had color/brightness shifts (like a TN panel) when tilting the phone from side to side on both axes..this is irritating as it is on laptops where you would move around less but even more so on a handheld device. IGZO may have better color gamut etc but seems to have worse viewing angles compared to this LTPS stuff that is on this Orienphone/Ulefone/Tronsmart/Aonex also made by Sharp..think IGZO has lower power consumption--you can search and read up on these as I do not know much about these.. however it has broader frequencies, awesome form factor for a 7 inch, super lightweight, very fast, bigger battery (4200maH) and responsive ...great signal and reception, call quality-drawback-no software updates none if not on docomo..though someone said you could trick it into thinking as on docomo by putting in a docomo apn (atlhough the software update itself is over wifi)..rooting etc? too early as too new a product...however in the end, screen is ultimate factor and therefore it fallls short
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I didn't like the past Sony screens, because you had to use the device directly in front of your eyes. But the Xperia Ultra changed all that. If you say that the Sharp one has a bad screen, I believe you. And more if you were willing to sold it back at a loss.
And about the Teclast model, it seems that they only use the 2100 MHz band, so it is only 2G if I want to use it in my country I will try to find out. It is really strange that they don't have the 850 MHz band.
If you happen to know other model, please let me know. If there is none, then Tronsmart will be my next purchase.
Thank you for your help.
Hello,
I bought the 'created N7' that is like the ulefone u7/tronsmart ps7/luftco a onex/orientphone mega pro 7 etc..., and is sold by the factory with 4.4.2 installed
I found a bug in this product
The bug is about the bad working of the s-view window.
I link here a video where is possible to see how it should work:
http://youtu.be/lk1P9jziw64
The problem is that with the created N7 it is not possible to answer
to the calls without opening the flip cover:
when the N7 receive a call, the s-view window is not sensitive, so it
is not possible to answer
The sview with cover closed is sensitive only for a few seconds after the cover has ben closed, specifically only before the sview goes in standby (black screen)...after the standby, wakening the phone by a call or simply pressing the power button (without opening the cover) the sview seems not sensitive
These are two videos that shows the problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG6D...e_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-By6...e_gdata_player
This should be fixed, because is an important feature that is missing:
the phones like N7 of other brands (like ulefone u7/u69, luftco a-one
x, tronsmart ps7, orientphone mega pro 7) instead have a fully
functional s-view window
I already informed some created online sellers (kent wang, peter
yang... ) about this bug,
they told me that they will contact the engineer... but i have
not answer yet...i think they are not able to solve this problemi...
A seller told me that they send the leather case for free,
Its a gift , so i cannot ask them to fix this problem ��
Can someone help me to fix this problem?
I tried installing firmware of other device (luftco a onex 4.4.2)
But nothing has changed ...(and by the way i found that the luftco firmware
does not fit with my n7...the camera does not work with it)
Any hint?
Any suggestion?
I did some tests i found that actually the sview is sensitive also after the standby, but not enought to feel the touches through the screen...
in the settings there is an option 'increase touch sensitivity to allow the control through sview screen',
seems that this high sensitivity status is not reactivated if the cover is not opened after the phone goes to standby...
How can i fix this problem? perhaps some fix on touch drivers is needed?
Please help me!
Thank you!
i have used the s-view cover briefly but did not have issues (like i could take the call through the window)..just me but I reverted back to 4.2.2 because of the incall volume and higher ringer volumes (not found a way to fix that in 4.4.2..recall even Ultra Z had that issue with initial 4.4.2 versions before they fixed it and then Ebay app crashes no matter what I try (when trying to click on any item)...low in call volume was a big negative for me...added plus have cwm touch in 4.2.2 versus regular cwm but that is not a big deal (sure someone has a working twrp too which would be great)
btw successfully deodexed the 4.4.2 (even though not using it) using the tool here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713329
however keep getting bootloop on deodexed 4.2.2
EDIT
also successfully applied Xposed mods (various like getting many more toggles, volume rocker wake etc..Gravity xposed is best, Xutilities, Xuimod and Xblast are others) on both the 4.2.2. and 4.4.2
also can get advanced reboot, screenshot using home hard button, slide status bar for screen brightness adjustment etc
estuardo4 said:
I didn't like the past Sony screens, because you had to use the device directly in front of your eyes. But the Xperia Ultra changed all that. If you say that the Sharp one has a bad screen, I believe you. And more if you were willing to sold it back at a loss.
And about the Teclast model, it seems that they only use the 2100 MHz band, so it is only 2G if I want to use it in my country I will try to find out. It is really strange that they don't have the 850 MHz band.
If you happen to know other model, please let me know. If there is none, then Tronsmart will be my next purchase.
Thank you for your help.
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I received an email from Teclast. They only support the 2100 MHz band on their phone.
Now the decision will be if I want to have 2G speeds (I'm almost always on reach of many public WiFi signals) and a $150 phablet with metal body, or a 3G and 0.5 cm shorter, $250 one with better camera and a plastic body.
If you happen to know another option, I'll be very greatful. The Sharp one is out of my league right now.
Thank you again.
Ok back to kitkat now using this version of the rom for (as needrom links says) Ulefone U69/U7, Carpad T69, Tronsmart PS7, Yuandao M87, OrientPhone Mega Pro 7.0, Created N7 (but using for OrientPhone)
https://mega.co.nz/#!w8tSEB7A!y15nkEH-q5f-4b8yXeOZWxQRuwMunlWfZ9nwsksLW0A
from
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/ulefo...ndao-m87-orientphone-mega-pro-7-0-created-n7/
The supposedly newer 5/27 rom (on Ulefone site link
http://www.ule-fone.com/downloads/ulefone-7-0-inch/)
and then the 6/05 rom from link
http://www.pandawillforum.com/showt...-4-2-for-Ulephone-U7-Orientphone-Mega-Pro-7-0
have issues (5/27 could not root no matter what-has while and orange Welcome boot animation just so you know) and the 6/05 Lutfco Onex rom (again same device) from link below has no MTK engineering mode (which I used to successfully tweak in call/ringer/notification volume levels) (the 6/05 rom has the Onex Black white boot animation)
you can use Mobile uncle tools (from playstore) or MTK Engineering Mode app per this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248396
pr just type this in dialer
*#*#3646633#*#* to get into MTK engineering mode (no app needed)
Need to Headset and Headset Loudspeaker and Mic within each of those (for each level like level0 level1 etc..think these are the volume steps as called out in build prop)
example levels shown here (different phone but same applies)
http://flaresroms.blogspot.com/2014/05/rom422un-official-mere-by-john-reniel.html
non touch recovery cwm as got using MKTdroid tools not fancy but does the job and is fast..the CWm touch recovery takes forever
4.4.2 with working camera+root (SuperSU)+access to MKT Enng tools
vicolodo..think the camera work in JB rom not in 4.4 (in the created kk, the camera only does the front camera not the rear) wondering if it is a gallery apk, camera.bin, and camera lib files issue -will let you know if I have any success (not sure if the 6/5 luftco kk rom has fixed this issue..but then no engineering mtk mode on that and need it to boost pathetically low ringer and in-call earpiece default volumes)
EDIT
(as everything on xda. this is what worked for me do your own checks and due diligence..nothing guaranteed)
so took this rom from here
http://www.ule-fone.com/downloads/ulefone-7-0-inch/
file folder name is 20140527_e2719v92_gq3015
but could not root it (even using vroot)
so from an earlier 4.4.2 rom (link below)
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/ulefo...ndao-m87-orientphone-mega-pro-7-0-created-n7/
which was rootable via vroot (but camera rear did not work), had created cwm recovery image file using mktdroid tools
folder name for this rom is
20140526_e2719v92_gq3015_N7
mktdroid tools guide for cwm is here
http://www.chinaphonearena.com/foru...-CWM-MTK6595-MTK6582-MTK6589-MTK6589T-MTK6577
so installed the rom in first link (5/27)
then went back to flashing mode (no battery etc)
and in the folder of the rom (first link) renamed recovery.img as something else
and put instead the recovery cwm image file created for the needrom rom as the recovery image file.
when flashing unchecked everything except recovery..so the scatter took the new recovery file
then booted to cwm and flashed cwm su update zip file (can find many places)
booted after flashing..no issues SU was there and so was root
camera works on this 5/27 rom AND you have access to mtk engineering tools/mode
only thing google play etc would not connect to network so just went to each google app (like play services, partner setup etc and cleared all data and cache)
on rebooting everything worked! (root, google play etc, mtk enng mode, cwm, camera)
old cwm attached..this will prompt you to update su later
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Huawei Mediapad X1 (Honor X1) – Review
For a little over a year competing brands have been increasing their screen sizes and seeing just how far they can push the limits. Huawei’s latest entry to the big screen wars comes in with a huge 7 inch display. What I like about these new 7 inch devices is the borders have been scaled back making the finished product noticeably smaller than a tablet but giving you tons of screen real estate to work with. While the Huawei Mediapad X1 also known as the Huawei Honor X1 is not for everyone, those customers that are looking for a true phone, tablet hybrid might find the device they have been looking for.
Unboxing
I bought the Huawei Mediapad (Honor) X1 from Merimobiles and had it shipped by DHL. It took a few days for the order to process and ship, and then about 4 days to get it from DHL. The phone was well packaged to ensure no damage occurred.
The box had more of a flat design to accommodate the larger phablet, which allowed it to be removed out of the side. Inside was the X1, manuals, headphones, micro USB cable, and wall charging adaptor. I found it odd that a SIM tray tool was not provided. I had one already, but failing that something like a paperclip could be used.
Check out the Unboxing video here.
Specs
7 inch 1920 x 1200 display
1.6 Ghz Huawei Hisilicon Kirin 910 quad core (ARM Cortex A-9)
Mali 450MP4 GPU
2GB RAM
16GB internal storage with expansion slot
5MP front camera
13MP rear camera
5000 mAh battery
Check out the full video review here.
Physical features
The Huawei X1 measures in at 183.5 x 103.9 but is fairly thin at just 7.2 mm. Somehow Huawei have managed to cram a 5000 mAh battery into it. The device feels very solid yet only weights 239 grams. On the right hand side of the phone is a power button(bottom) and volume rocker(top).
On the right hand side at the top is the expansion card slot with the single SIM slot on the bottom.(Just a heads up, it’s a Micro SIM)
The bottom right has the micro USB connector.
The top just the right of centre has the 3.5mm headphone jack.
The front facing camera is on the right hand side.
The rear camera is on the top left, with the loudspeaker on the bottom right.
Overall you can tell this is a quality device.
Display
The X1′s giant 7 inch display is 1920 x 1200 with 323 ppi and is actually quite good. It is plenty bright and I didn’t find myself in a situation where I couldn’t see what was on the screen. It’s responsiveness was good in that it wasn’t too sensitive nor did I have to be overly firm to get it to do what I wanted.
Software
Huawei’s Emotion UI reminds me of Lenovo’s Vibe ROM. They both favour a system of dropping icons on the screens similar to that of the iPhone. I’m not a fan of that setup and also loaded on Nova launcher to ease my dissatisfaction. The pulldown menu was fairly standard. It had a main set of icon’s but with a second pulldown you could expose the rest of your essential settings. The settings menu has a simple “general” tab along with an “all” tab. Huawei have also given users more control of what the device does by default with a startup manager, a permissions manager, and a notification bar. If you want to get rid of the navigation buttons you can easily hide them, then bring them back when needed.
These are nice touches but the device did have some lag on it. Whether that is the software or the processor is unknown, but it is there and very noticeable. The device has also locked up on me several times.
Skype loaded but the bottom portion of the messaging screen was missing so you couldn’t write anything. I also experienced issues with apps that should periodically scan for new messages and send them to to notification bar to alert you. Even though I allowed them in the notification manager it still was hit and miss.
Hopefully updates will fix all of these issues.
WiFi
The Huawei Mediapad X1 only supports 2.4 Ghz WiFi. The way I tested it was by taking a speed test right beside the router, a second one at the furthest point of my upstairs level, and a third at the furthest point of my basement.
Router = 26.68mbps
Upstairs =10.44mbps
Basement = 10.11mbps
These aren’t the strongest results I’ve come across but are certainly acceptable. I can use the device in any location in my house with no issues, which includes streaming music or videos.
Call Quality
I promised myself that I wouldn’t put this monstrosity up to my ear in public, but at home I did for testing purposes. I imagine it looked very foolish, but the bottom line is the call quality is very good. If you don’t care about how silly it looks holding this huge device to your ear you will be able to enjoy the crystal clear call quality. I prefer to use a bluetooth headset with it, or a bluetooth car system when on the road.
Speakers
The speaker for the Huawei Mediapad X1 is located on the back of the device. I tested it with YouTube, movies, and of course a variety of music styles. It performed very well giving an added audio depth in all situations with just enough volume. With the DTS function disabled the movies still sounded good, but when I enabled it the results were quite impressive. In action scenes, gunfire and explosions were very full, adding to the experience. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like going to the theatre, but for a mobile device it was a very pleasant surprise.
With headphones the audio was very good with the music being clear and loud.
Video Playback
I tested the video playback with an assortment of formats in VLC player and all worked well. I had a good idea of how this device would perform in the graphics department as it is using the Mali 450MP4 which is the exact same GPU as all of the Mediatek MT6592 devices I’ve used. While it’s not top of the line graphics, it is more than capable. Watching videos on a 7” display when out and about is definitely pretty nice. I call the X1 my portable big screen tv.
Web Browsing
For some reason the X1 always redirected me to google.com.hk. No matter what I did to confirm my location it insisted on redirecting me. This forced me input a google.com/ncr which makes sure Google doesn’t change the location by country. Once I got that sorted out web browsing was fine and pretty much on par with other current devices other than the obvious bonus of viewing everything on a huge screen.
Cameras
I thought the 5 MP front and 13 MP rear cameras would be one of the strong points of the X1 but they weren’t quite as good as I expected. They were good in bright natural light, but did create some noise in fairly standard shots when indoors with less light. If you are expecting cameras on par with the newer flagship devices like the Lenovo Vibe Z,Oppo Find 7, or Vivo Xshot you aren’t going to find them here.
Good but not great.
GPS
The GPS on the Huawei Mediapad X1 works very well. I recently went on a trip and used the GPS extensively with Waze. I was very pleased with it’s performance and never experienced any confusion. Any navigation errors that occurred were entirely my fault (this is the only time I’ll admit that).
To test it I put it in airplane mode to eliminate any data assistance and got a cold lock in 11 seconds. Subsequent locks were immediate. Very slid GPS performance with the added luxury of it being on a 7” display.
Benchmarks
This is were the Huawei Hisilicon Kirin 910 gets revealed for what it is. Yes, it is underpowered by todays standards, but it is functional. The upside is, when paired with a 5000 mAh battery it does very well in the battery life department. More on that later.
Antutu
21,959
This puts the device ahead of things like the Samsung Note 2, Galaxy S3, and Nexus 4,but below the HTC One, Galaxy S4, and any of the Mediatek MT6592 devices on the market.
Nenamark 2
57.3 fps
This is a very good score considering most Mediatek MT6592 1080p devices are scoring less than 50 fps.
CPU Prime
2901
This puts it slightly ahead of the Nexus 4 but far behind the Samsung Galaxy S4.
Vellamo
HTML5
1900
Metal
686
As you can see, the results fall somewhere between this years tech and last years tech. Of course benchmarks aren’t everything and I found the functionality of the device just fine other than the slight lag here and there.
Battery
This is were the Huawei Mediapad X1 really shines. This thing just keeps going and going. With moderate use I can easily get two days of use.
One day I used it a fair amount which included screen on GPS. I thought I was charging it that night but my wife had unplugged it from the wall without me knowing. When I woke up the next morning it was still at 60%, so I didn’t bother charging it and it easily finished the next day with 11% remaining.
When I put it on a video loop with auto brightness, it managed an awesome 10 hours 10 minutes.
Gaming
I tested the X1 with Dead Trigger 2, Asphalt 8, and my new addiction, Front Line Commando 2.
The device uses a Mali 450MP4 so I expected performance on par with Mediatek MT6592 devices. This proved to be the case as it automatically put graphic settings in the mid range. Gameplay is smooth and VERY, VERY enjoyable on the 7 inch HD display. I played Front Line Commando for about an hour and a half and only lost 16% from my battery.
Final Thoughts
All phones have pro’s and con’s. So lets go over the Mediapad X1′s.
Pro’s
Huge HD screen in a fairly compact and thin device creating a great experience for anything Media related, hence the name Mediapad X1
Massive 5000 mAh battery that allows you to enjoy the size of the device without fearing battery is going to die on you
Expandable storage. Even though it has a sealed design Huawei prove you can have make room for an expansion slot. Rival phone makers take note!
Con’s
Lag. Not what you want to find on a just released device.
Processor. The Hisilicon Kirin 910 is so far behind the competition it’s not funny. Huawei need to step up their processors, or start using someone elses.
I really enjoy using the Huawei Mediapad X1. I feel like I can use it for whatever I want for as long as needed without ANY fear of running out of power. Huawei clearly built the phone around the name Mediapad, because media and games is where it really shines. While the phone is not a powerhouse or an over achiever, it is a great jack of all trades.
The bottom line is, those that like large devices are going to love it, and those that prefer the standard 5-5.5” phones are going to think it’s a freak show.
The question “Is it a tablet or a phone?” can only be answered by you. I call it a phone.
WiFi Display
MobileInkSlinger said:
For a little over a year competing brands have been increasing their screen sizes and seeing just how far they can push the limits. Huawei’s latest entry to the big screen wars comes in with a huge 7 inch display. What I like about these new 7 inch devices is the borders have been scaled back making the finished product noticeably smaller than a tablet but giving you tons of screen real estate to work with. While the Huawei Mediapad X1 also known as the Huawei Honor X1 is not for everyone, those customers that are looking for a true phone, tablet hybrid might find the device they have been looking for...
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Hello,
could you tell me if it does support WiFi Display? (screen mirroring to tv)
i own an LG smart tv (miracast certified), i would like to know if i can do scrren mirroring wirelessly...or if i have to buy the huawei tv box (mediaq) to do that...
let me know
thanks!
Vicolodo said:
Hello,
could you tell me if it does support WiFi Display? (screen mirroring to tv)
i own an LG smart tv (miracast certified), i would like to know if i can do scrren mirroring wirelessly...or if i have to buy the huawei tv box (mediaq) to do that...
let me know
thanks!
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Yes it support wifi display.
moviehunter2009 said:
Yes it support wifi display.
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Thank you,
so i can mirror the screen of the mediapad x1 to any wifi display (miracast) compatible smart tv,
without to buy additional tv box?
I don't find the mediapad x1 in the official list of miracast compatible devices...
Can you double check this?
I asked (via email) to huawei support , but they didn't answer me yet...
Thanks!
HUAWEI call it multi screen. I haven't tested it, but I'm pretty sure that will do it.
Sent from my MediaPad X1 7.0 using Tapatalk
does it support 4g lte network?
Can it fit in your pocket?
My version is just WCDMA, there is a 4g version but I'm not sure the supported bands.
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It fits in my pockets but I wear my pants fairly loose and with deeper pockets.
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MobileInkSlinger said:
HUAWEI call it multi screen. I haven't tested it, but I'm pretty sure that will do it.
Sent from my MediaPad X1 7.0 using Tapatalk
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thank you very much
i read on the user manual (available online) something about air sharing, but seems it needs a huawei tv box (mediaQ)
i would like to know if this box is needed, or if the x1 screen mirroring can work without it, if the tv is miracast compatible
specifically, if the screen is actually mirrored to the tv, not only when some media like photo or video is pushed to the tv via dlna
(for example during browsing, can i see the browser in the tv screen?)
with my xiaomi m2s when i activate wlan display , i can see the phone screen mirrored on the tv...
do you think that this happens also with the mediapad x1?
thanks!
Sorry, I can't say for sure. I don't have anything to test it with .
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MobileInkSlinger said:
Sorry, I can't say for sure. I don't have anything to test it with .
Sent from my MediaPad X1 7.0 using Tapatalk
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no problem,
thank you
but i have also another question (i will send you a postcard from italy if you can check this
about external webcam
with my tablet acer a500 (with stock rom, but rooted) i can connect an external webcam (logitech c270),
to the usb port and it works fine with app 'dashcam' (than can be downloaded freely from the play store)
i you have a webcam , can you try to connect it to the usb port of the mediapad x1 (via otg cable) and check if it works with app 'dashcam'?
Thank you very much!
Vicolodo said:
no problem,
thank you
but i have also another question (i will send you a postcard from italy if you can check this
about external webcam
with my tablet acer a500 (with stock rom, but rooted) i can connect an external webcam (logitech c270),
to the usb port and it works fine with app 'dashcam' (than can be downloaded freely from the play store)
i you have a webcam , can you try to connect it to the usb port of the mediapad x1 (via otg cable) and check if it works with app 'dashcam'?
Thank you very much!
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A webcam? Hmmm, I remember those things. Unfortunately I haven't had one in a few years.
Sorry, I can't check that for you either.
MobileInkSlinger said:
A webcam? Hmmm, I remember those things. Unfortunately I haven't had one in a few years.
Sorry, I can't check that for you either.
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ok no problem,
tks
probably if you try to download, install and launch the app 'dashcam' it tells you if the app is compatible with the device... (if not, it give the message 'uvc driver missing' or something like that...)
by the way, i bought a small webcam that is a microscope/endoscope, that can be used to inspect things such electronic circuits pcb, and also for medical purposes (included are some accessories), but also to inspect things that can not be seen directly (like a small screw in a hidden place of the engine of the car)
this works with my acer a500 (and app dashcam) so i was wondering if i could use the mediapad too (that is more portable)
Dashcam loads onto the device but like you said it gives a uvc driver error. Sounds like a really cool webcam you bought.
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MobileInkSlinger said:
Dashcam loads onto the device but like you said it gives a uvc driver error. Sounds like a really cool webcam you bought.
Sent from my MediaPad X1 7.0 using Tapatalk
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Thanks!
Yes,
take a look to this aliexpress store (they can send the items from UK warehouse):
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/127104
I've just got one of these, and it's so good I am retiring my Galaxy Note 2. I use Go Launcher on it, and don't see any lag. It's a perfect size for me - fits in my jacket pocket, small enough for the occasional phone call, and a tiny bezel yet a large screen make this as big a step up from the Note 2 as that was from my ZTE Blade. As noted, battery life is just amazing. Use it all day, and I'm still on 60% battery left. I got the Chinese version. Most of the interface is in English, but the utilities are in Chinese - the help app, and the Huawei market, in particular. It comes with some bloatware, but much of that can be uninstalled. There's a lot of fine control over app permissions, and a useful cleaner utility. SIP calling i not enabled so you will need a separate SIP app if that's your thing.
Root for honor x1
I received my honor x1 :good: (not bad so far), I was able to root on a link meant for the huawei honor 3c(listed below) . Hope it helps. Just wished there were more cases for this thing. Im using it with Cricket (was AIO Wireless) in the US with no problem. Im still using the Emoticon launcher (it's ok), with some tweaking it becomes very snappy(the quad core it's not the most powerful). Screen is excellent. no problems fitting in back pocket. Camera is ok (haven't really tested it). Any question let me know.
http://www.gizchina.com/2014/02/14/root-huawei-honor-3c/
natienn said:
I received my honor x1 :good: (not bad so far), I was able to root on a link meant for the huawei honor 3c(listed below) . Hope it helps. Just wished there were more cases for this thing. Im using it with Cricket (was AIO Wireless) in the US with no problem. Im still using the Emoticon launcher (it's ok), with some tweaking it becomes very snappy(the quad core it's not the most powerful). Screen is excellent. no problems fitting in back pocket. Camera is ok (haven't really tested it). Any question let me know.
http://www.gizchina.com/2014/02/14/root-huawei-honor-3c/
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with vRoot, is /system/xxx still write protected even after reboot?
Gelasius said:
with vRoot, is /system/xxx still write protected even after reboot?
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hello mediapad x1 owners...
can you please check if wifi display (miracast) works on your devices?
i am not able to get information if wifi display (miracast) is supported by the mediapad X1
if not, can you please try to install the apk
'wifi display (Miracast) helper'?
this should enable the option on the device, if missing
Let me know!
Thanks!
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natienn said:
I received my honor x1 :good: (not bad so far), I was able to root on a link meant for the huawei honor 3c(listed below) . Hope it helps. Just wished there were more cases for this thing. Im using it with Cricket (was AIO Wireless) in the US with no problem. Im still using the Emoticon launcher (it's ok), with some tweaking it becomes very snappy(the quad core it's not the most powerful). Screen is excellent. no problems fitting in back pocket. Camera is ok (haven't really tested it). Any question let me know.
http://www.gizchina.com/2014/02/14/root-huawei-honor-3c/
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hello mediapad x1 owners...
can you please check if wifi display (miracast) works on your devices?
i am not able to get information if wifi display (miracast) is supported by the mediapad X1
if not, can you please try to install the apk
'wifi display (Miracast) helper'?
this should enable the option on the device, if missing
Let me know!
Thanks!
---------- Post added at 07:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:59 PM ----------
ralphrmartin said:
I've just got one of these, and it's so good I am retiring my Galaxy Note 2. I use Go Launcher on it, and don't see any lag. It's a perfect size for me - fits in my jacket pocket, small enough for the occasional phone call, and a tiny bezel yet a large screen make this as big a step up from the Note 2 as that was from my ZTE Blade. As noted, battery life is just amazing. Use it all day, and I'm still on 60% battery left. I got the Chinese version. Most of the interface is in English, but the utilities are in Chinese - the help app, and the Huawei market, in particular. It comes with some bloatware, but much of that can be uninstalled. There's a lot of fine control over app permissions, and a useful cleaner utility. SIP calling i not enabled so you will need a separate SIP app if that's your thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hello mediapad x1 owners...
can you please check if wifi display (miracast) works on your devices?
i am not able to get information if wifi display (miracast) is supported by the mediapad X1
if not, can you please try to install the apk
'wifi display (Miracast) helper'?
this should enable the option on the device, if missing
Let me know!
Thanks!
And if it's worth it, what's the main pros and cons?
I would mostly be looking at it for gaming and probably going with a custom rom, and for the price and specs it's hard to over look it compared to other tablets in the price range, it just looks to good to be true. Usually cheaper is never better with phones and tablets, I've learned the hard way...
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i bought the tab recently too . for starters i really like it and am already enjoying multirom benefits thanks to devs of xda.
Note these are only my thoughts , better read expert reviews to find out more.
pros
-smooth gaming performance
-impressive speakers
-good dev community
-direct stylus
-wifi direct controller (low latency compared to Bluetooth controllers)
- gamestream & game hub (nice pc gaming stream)
-okay to good battery life (for a gaming tab)
- full color management options
-connectivity options
-good android update track record (but poor quality sometimes)
-linux4tegraP)
cons
- not the best screen out there
-outdoor visibility is bit low
- idiotic power and volume button placemnet (no travel)
- accessories are not cheap (no charger or stylus included) (third party ones will get the work done for cheap)
neither cons nor pros
- old soc (kinda)
- future android updates (probably will get android N as stated in geforce community)
- 2Gb ram (mixed reviews)
-heat (duh!)
-16gb storage (i use 64gig sdcard and im doing fine)
Note : custom roms (except cm12 unofficial build) do not support the shield controller , but you can use multi rom like most of us do.
vimjam said:
i bought the tab recently too . for starters i really like it and am already enjoying multirom benefits thanks to devs of xda.
Note these are only my thoughts , better read expert reviews to find out more.
pros
-smooth gaming performance
-impressive speakers
-good dev community
-direct stylus
-wifi direct controller (low latency compared to Bluetooth controllers)
- gamestream & game hub (nice pc gaming stream)
-okay to good battery life (for a gaming tab)
- full color management options
-connectivity options
-good android update track record (but poor quality sometimes)
-linux4tegraP)
cons
- not the best screen out there
-outdoor visibility is bit low
- idiotic power and volume button placemnet (no travel)
- accessories are not cheap (no charger or stylus included) (third party ones will get the work done for cheap)
neither cons nor pros
- old soc (kinda)
- future android updates (probably will get android N as stated in geforce community)
- 2Gb ram (mixed reviews)
-heat (duh!)
-16gb storage (i use 64gig sdcard and im doing fine)
Note : custom roms (except cm12 unofficial build) do not support the shield controller , but you can use multi rom like most of us do.
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This is exactly the kind of replies I'm looking for.
Realiability is an issue for me too since I had a nexus 7 last year and I couldn't stand it, just on stock it had so many issues (so I never rooting for warranties sake, and had 3 in total with all the same issues), random touching and unable to scroll without screwing up, constant wifi drops, mic drops on Skype... It just goes on really. So just hearing that nvidia might have solid hardware and try to keep up with the software side of things could make it a winner for me, even if the official accessories aren't cheap the price of the tablet itself can make up for it. Plus if I need a controller I can just use my ps4s [emoji6]
It's really hard to find an affordable name brand tablet with decent specs anymore. And some official reviews are hard to believe sometimes, I don't really trust people that buy it, use it for a couple weeks and say it's great... Phone and tablets can deteriorate drastically by 6 months time.
I hope to see more replies to see what everyone thinks.
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I just got done setting up my Shield K1 this week. I came from a Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ on CyanogenMod 11. That thing is practically on its last legs in terms of usability since it's stuck on KitKat and it's noticeably laggy for even basic use now.
On the K1, I'm running an unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery, rooted stock ROM, and Xposed. I'm not really into custom ROMs anymore as long as I can tweak an existing ROM to my liking, whether it's by manually editing system files or through Xposed. I've yet to play any games or even run the Fallout Shelter game that comes on it.
For $200, this tablet is really a bargain considering you get 1080p+ resolution, easy rooting, and tablet gaming performance that is still top tier today. As for what doesn't come in the box, I already have a QC 2.0 charger that I bought as a second charger for my phone, and I don't have a use for a stylus. I've never believed in spending lots of money on a tablet since it's realistically my least used computing device out of four (desktop, laptop, phone, tablet), so like the Nook HD+ back in its day, the Shield K1 is the best customizable/rootable tablet with a high resolution display for the money.
The only issue I have so far with the K1, which many others have had, is that the touchscreen is too sensitive and sometimes registers taps when my finger hovers over but doesn't actually touch the screen. You can recalibrate the screen by following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/adjust-touchscreen-sensitivity-t2963326
For a controller, I have a Xbox 360 wireless controller and USB PC wireless adapter, which can be plugged in to the K1 using a micro USB OTG dongle.
A decade ago to yesterday, there's been so many developments in mobile technology....we used to see a release of 1 or 2 types of phones to suit certain markets/demographics. Now; rather than seeing this, it's generally unheard of, or extremely uncommon for a big manufacturer to release fewer than 6-10 different types of phones in a calendar year. So my question is this; with the market so heavily flooded with competition of making and selling the best smartphone and so much more variety and pricepoints to choose from, WHY in the BLUE hell can 1 manufacturer NOT make this?? ---
These are of course, my personal preferences and some features or functions I'm sure m,any of you can live without. But that's my point; these features/functions are NOT big changes or improvements, so living without is really not acceptable when all of these can be made and found on ONE device:
Screen/body size and type - Just give me something that looks vibrant, accurate AND is comfortable to operate in ONE hand
Not only that, just let it fit easily in and out of my pocket!
The trend has been pretty obvious - smart phones and screens are getting bigger! As a result over the last 5-6 years, screen sizes have become ridiculously large and now phablets are a 'thing'.
5" is probably the ideal screen size. The dimensions of my Huawei P10+ seem rather acceptable for me, at: 153.5 x 74.2 x 7 mm (6.04 x 2.92 x 0.28 in)
We should be championing better technology of 2K AMOLED or OLED screens and not falling back to cost cutting with crappy 720/1080p FHD TFT LCD types
LED Notification Light - I care about notifications without having to pick up[ my phone to check it!
Just give me something where I have control over the colour/intensity and frequency and stop locking these features away.
The LED notification light has shrunk from a large vibrant size to the pin-head size we can barely make out on phones that currently adopt it.
I'm in Australia and care about fast download speeds; so until 5G is here, give me band 28 - 700Mhz
My carrier and most phones support the 4G network, or Telstra's '4GX'. So I need a phone with the capability and to not offer it (or lock certain bands down) is preposterous.
DUAL SIM popularity is increasing and I want this capability for personal AND work purposes!
Dual-active! Not dual standy-by; because 2G is switched off in my country. Give me 3G/4G dual or 4G/4G with the abilty to switch off data (for 1 SIM) if I don't need or want it.
I have friends carrying 2 phones and one carrying 3 phones around, which IMO is utterly pointless. One truly 'smart' phone will do, thanks.
Technological advancements allow it, so why not make it? TWO sim slots with the microSD card that --DOES NOT-- take up a SIM slot: #separateslot
Is it really asking so much to have a dual SIM phone with microSD card slot as an extra slot for memory?
Seriously! You know what...If it is, then just give me inbuilt memory of 32GB bare minimum inside the phone itself. If one manufacturer can do it, all can.
Camera - High quality point and shoot in low light will no that can take a pretty decent video
12mp minimum rear-shooter with f1.8. Ideally I want to take 4K videos at 30fps as well with good stabilisation
I'm not a selfie-maniac, so anything from a 5mp and UP as a front shooter camera at f2 is fine for me
Every year I see these changes in camera types, megapixel and feature rich enhancements...yet my P10+ fails to take good quality sharp images in medium to low light. Some cameras like my P10+ over-saturate in post production...one of many adjustments manufacturers make within their apps. Just give me a pretty basic 12-13mp camera that is top of its class for taking brilliant sharp pictures in any light but also able to shoot good video at 30 or 60fps 1080p and 4k videos at least 30fps; nothing too fancy, just minimum expected these days.
Accessibility is everything - so give me what all-half decent phones have today...
Bluebooth (4.0 minimum)
NFC
WIFI 802.11ac, DLNA, WiFi Direct, Hotspot
All the sensors for smartphones; accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Wireless charging
Why are Samsung seemingly the ones ones who want to offer this?
I can go without, but don't see why so many manufacturers who do offer this, cut so many other corners on other features mentioned here
A newish OS without excessive bloatware
I'd be happy with Android 7 Nougat or 8 (Oreo). Take off the bloat and give me the basic apps required on the phone without locking them down
CPU/RAM - Just give me a chip which handles dual-active SIM's with battery efficiency
I'm happy with a 4GB amount of RAM. It doesn't need to be 6GB or above top of the line.
Look at Asus Zenfone 2 from 2015. It handled dual-active SIM slots using Intel Atom Z3580 Quad-core 2.3 GHz with GPU PowerVR G6430. I'd suggest 3 years on from this release, anything above this will do...as this is really, a bare minimum.
Can't forget about connectivity - the basic ports will do
- USB Type C (USB 3.0 idea) with fast charge capabilities
- 3.5mm headphone jack; even though I'm moving to a bluetooth ear or headphones, the port should still exist for users who want and need it
- REAR MOUNTED Fingerprint sensor
While I'm not fussed, I liked the idea of LG v20's fingerprint sensor which doubled as a power button. 2 in 1. Also hard to accidentally knock if it's in a case. I can't stand front facing sensors, it's much more easy and convenient to whip the phone out of your pocket and lock without having to get your thumb fiddling with front sensors.
Battery technologies and improvements have been made, so STOP giving us 3000mAh to 3200!
If Huawei and other manufacturers can do it, why can't all phones by 3600 to 4000mAh at minimum now?
Infrared (IR) blaster. WHY is this a dying art?!
If your phone can be used as a backup remote for your TV, set top box, air con years ago, then why is this economical option disappearing from phones? Include one!
If we truly want to make an all in one device and have it be really smart, give it an IR blaster, or even a sensor for learning other IR remotes.
I do not need me phone to
- Be an all metal design; if plastic helps boost the mobile/data signal then I'll just use a case on it!
- Be WATERPROOF; unlike all those idiots with videos on youtube, scratching, dropping, burning and swimming with their phones. DONT need it! Splashproof maybe.
- Be squeezed for a certain action to take place
- have a 99.5% "screen to body" ratio. This is silly, just give me a good screen!
- Have one over-the-top insanely expensive feature, like a 22mp camera; or 8GB of RAM
- Destroy all geeky benchmarks. Nope. Just perform standard or above average. One that performs will with multi-tasking apps, the occasional games and FHD video playbacks
So what do you think? Agree/disagree? If apps or key features like controlling certain pro camera features or changing the LED notification light colour is locked down, the manufacturer needs to open this up up their consumers who will want to use the phone in their own way. Googling phone by feature and popping these features in yields no results, and only 3 or 4 phones come fairly close. LG v20 and P10+ which has a faint LED light and lacks system root; only OS root.
/end rant
RoOSTA
No one likes the idea of a smartphone with those features?
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There's been hundreds of these posts/threads over the years. Everyone has their own idea of a perfect phone, most of which will differ completely to yours (There's several things i would have that you haven't mentioned and 4 things you don't want, i do).
Not sure what kind of answer you are expecting to a rant about phone specs on a hacking forum - This would be better directed at the actual manufacturers.
Perhaps that's the idea of a forum..? Shares thoughts, interests and ideas...and this is general smart phone discussion isn't it? Have you found sending a single request as a sole consumer to manufacturers has helped (and led to actual product development in the past) ? Don't think so.
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My post still stands. Yes the iea of a forum is to share ideas - Yours is a rant.
And yes, i have made a change with a manufacturer (In vaping) by myself (In the correct place).
So share it?
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