Are there performance benefits to be gained by using Franco Kernel (or Trinity Kernel) on stock 4.4.2, but not using any software to tweak things?
This is not a thread about which is better, I'm simply wondering if you necessarily must tweak things in order to take advantage of the kernel, or if it can provide performance benefits automatically.
Tweak to take full advantage but there is still advantage to be had by not tweaking, though why anyone would stop there is beyond me
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.psd said:
Are there performance benefits to be gained by using Franco Kernel (or Trinity Kernel) on stock 4.4.2, but not using any software to tweak things?
This is not a thread about which is better, I'm simply wondering if you necessarily must tweak things in order to take advantage of the kernel, or if it can provide performance benefits automatically.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532422
^^ look around in this thread.
rootSU said:
Tweak to take full advantage but there is still advantage to be had by not tweaking, though why anyone would stop there is beyond me
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Any examples of the benefits? I've been hacking my Android phones for a few years, and I want to go with a mostly stock experience for a while — to me that means not fiddling around with any settings. But simply flashing a kernel is basically one quick step that I don't need to manage, it's something I can do in about 1 minute with no research, and never think about again. So if it offers performance gains (particularly batter life) without needing to tweak things, then that's really useful to me.
Never flash a kernel without research. If you don't understand the benefits of something and wont research then don't do it. We wont spoon feed you
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Never flash a kernel without research. If you don't understand the benefits of something and wont research then don't do it. We wont spoon feed you
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Wow really? You're being a typical XDA forums douchebag. You forgot that part of the research process is finding answers, and a key tool in the answer-finding process is the question-asking process. You seem to have forgotten that you're in THE Q&A FORUM. If you're not interested in answering the question, then go away.
And do yourself a favor so you don't look like a jerk in the future: don't assume that people aren't also doing the reading portion of research, just because they're also taking advantage of the Q&A portion.
Hi,
All the kernels are tweaked to work out of the box better than stock (battery life and "performance" normally), at least they offer a good balance. Flash and forgot. But it's right that you can find some more fine settings that suits more your needs...
Try one or other and see for a few days with the default settings...
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viking37 said:
Hi,
All the kernels are tweaked to work out of the box better than stock (battery life and "performance"), at least they offer a good balance. Flash and forgot. But it's right that you can find some mor fine settings that suits more your needs...
Try one or other and see for a few days...
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Thank you. Last question: know whether I need to have root in order for the passive benefits to manifest?
.psd said:
Wow really? You're being a typical XDA forums douchebag. You forgot that part of the research process is finding answers, and a key tool in the answer-finding process is the question-asking process. You seem to have forgotten that you're in THE Q&A FORUM. If you're not interested in answering the question, then go away.
And do yourself a favor so you don't look like a jerk in the future: don't assume that people aren't also doing the reading portion of research, just because they're also taking advantage of the Q&A portion.
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You're the one who said no research. I just repeated you.
It also says in the rules to use search before asking questions. Search does the research portion as the answers already exist. Im not being a jerk. You said
.psd said:
it's something I can do in about 1 minute with no research
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Im merely warning you that flashing things without doing research (as you said) is dangerous.
Dont be a hypocrite. Take responsibility for what you say. You're being a typical xda "wont help myself, you help me"
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You're the one who said no research.
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What I said was, flashing a kernel is something I can do with no research. I did the research years ago and haven't forgotten how to flash a kernel since then.
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Im merely warning you that flashing things without doing research (as you said) is dangerous.
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That's fine. I've been hacking my phones since 2010 and I haven't had a problem yet. I was simply asking whether I need to manually tweak things in order to gain performance benefits from a custom kernel. As you and someone else pointed out, the answer is no — great. My final question is whether I need other things in order to experience those passive gains (things like root, SuperSU, BusyBox, etc.), or if they will just occur automatically.
You would only really need root to tweak the existing settings of a kernel.
So to try and simplify what I mean .. stock kernel has settings x. Custom kernel has settings y. Custom kernel also allows tweaking of settings y to settings z, but these tweaks require scripts or apps that need root.... but settings y requires nothing outside the kernels. These are the kernel defaults. Only deviation from defaults requires root
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What I said was, flashing a kernel is something I can do with no research. I did the research years ago and haven't forgotten how to flash a kernel since then.
That's fine. I've been hacking my phones since 2010 and I haven't had a problem yet. I was simply asking whether I need to manually tweak things in order to gain performance benefits from a custom kernel. As you and someone else pointed out, the answer is no — great. My final question is whether I need other things in order to experience those passive gains (things like root, SuperSU, BusyBox, etc.), or if they will just occur automatically.
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You're kidding right, you want to flash a kernel and you have to ask about other things, like root?
This phone was born to be rooted, do it. Busybox and SuperSU Busybox will not help out with kernel tweaks, Superuser just grants root access for programs that are modifying important stuff. eg; greenify app makes it so that apps do not run in the background and waste your battery, it ask you for permission to allow it to do what it was intended to do. If you click on the supersu app you wil see a list of apps that you have granted "root access" too.
.psd said:
Are there performance benefits to be gained by using Franco Kernel (or Trinity Kernel) on stock 4.4.2, but not using any software to tweak things?
This is not a thread about which is better, I'm simply wondering if you necessarily must tweak things in order to take advantage of the kernel, or if it can provide performance benefits automatically.
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The biggest benefit of using a custom kernal is the ability to tweak settings and parameters you don't have access to when running the stock kernel. Even if you don't change any of the kernel settings, most developers will claim their kernel offers a better balance between performance and energy efficiency out of the box. How perceptible the difference is, is certainly subjective.
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Thank you. Last question: know whether I need to have root in order for the passive benefits to manifest?
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You don't need to be rooted to flash a custom kernel, but you need root to change settings in the kernel using an app like FKU or Trickster.
Thanks everyone
damn i always thought u need root to flash kernels and stuff, if u flash and NOT have root, it seems unbenificary spellin i know lol
cobyman7035 said:
damn i always thought u need root to flash kernels and stuff, if u flash and NOT have root, it seems unbenificary spellin i know lol
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Lol, I've been in threads where recognized contributors didn't even know you could flash things without root. It seems to be a popular misunderstanding that you need root to mess with your phone, so don't feel embarrassed. I actually try to avoid root unless an app I use requires it, or obviously when custom ROMs include it by default.
.psd said:
Lol, I've been in threads where recognized contributors didn't even know you could flash things without root. It seems to be a popular misunderstanding that you need root to mess with your phone, so don't feel embarrassed. I actually try to avoid root unless an app I use requires it, or obviously when custom ROMs include it by default.
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90% of why I root my phones is in order to have full access to the file system. I don't often have to go into the data/app or system/app folder (among others) or tweak the build.prop, but when I do, it's nice not to have any limitations in place.
EDIT: now I'm picturing the Dos Equis guy after that last sentence
Rather than overclocking, I think Franco is about improving battery life without sacrificing the qualitative performance that is achieved on stock.
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Wow really? You're being a typical XDA forums douchebag. You forgot that part of the research process is finding answers, and a key tool in the answer-finding process is the question-asking process. You seem to have forgotten that you're in THE Q&A FORUM. If you're not interested in answering the question, then go away.
And do yourself a favor so you don't look like a jerk in the future: don't assume that people aren't also doing the reading portion of research, just because they're also taking advantage of the Q&A portion.
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Hey guys I know it's probably been discussed before but I really need to find the correct info. I'm looking to save battery life to the fullest. I even went and bought the 3500mah battery and it seems to improve a lot. Now I just flashed the infusion kernel and want to learn about under clocking. Any help?
Just throwing this out there, but your best bet would be to check in the general section. People are going to end up jumping on you for posting in the wrong section.
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Yeah but would this pertain to roms and kernels which is development. Thank you for you concern though. Also I'm noticing that when I lock my phone or while its charging and locked and I touch the backlit buttons on the bottom of the screen they turn on. Um why? Haha
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Focustom said:
Yeah but would this pertain to roms and kernels which is development. Thank you for you concern though. Also I'm noticing that when I lock my phone or while its charging and locked and I touch the backlit buttons on the bottom of the screen they turn on. Um why? Haha
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BLN, and honestly the best way to learn about UV'ing is by trail and error. Each phone can handles uv'ing differently. Some can take a lot, while others cant. If you want to learn some more in depth look through the kernels thread and somewhere in there is a guide to everything pertaining to overclocking.
Ah. Ok I gotcha. Is there a way to turn that off Usps when I touch it it doesn't come on. I likethe notification idea though. Also how exactly does unvolting work. I don't mind playing around but how do I use it. Lol
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Also, if you are asking a question, even pertaining to roms, it goes in general. He was being nice about it, but this really doesn't belong here.
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Ah so only posts no questions? Mods could you move it if it doesn't belong here please.
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I would suggest reading through the Infusion thread. I know it's long, but here's the basics:
If using SetCPU (I know a lot of people say you should only use Voltage Control, but no one has been able to specifically point to why, leading me to believe that it's just a bunch of placebo effect crud, since the kernel does all the work and the sysfs interface used by both is the same.
In general: Start with small UV values and then work your way down. Values that work for some people fail for others. For example, some people manage to undervolt by 100 mV at 100-400 MHz, I get SoDs if I undervolt by more than 50 at 100/200 and 75 at 400.
The general rule for the dev forum is: If you have a question that is not answered in the thread for a kernel/ROM and is specific to that ROM, you can post it in that ROM's thread. MAKE SURE you read/search the thread to see if your question has not already been answered! Never post a new thread unless you are specifically raising a development-related topic. (Bug reports and feature requests is NOT development. Exception that I would personally accept is that if you see a bugfix commit in github against a kernel for another Samsung device, or possibly a non-Samsung device that has a bugfix against hardware we have, such as the BCM4330 wifi chipset's crappy power management, and the bug affects our devices, I'd be interested in knowing about the commit so I can investigate applying it.)
Hey guys, I had a vibrant 3g the day it came out and I rooted it the sh*t out of it and loved it but I'm trying the 4g slide and I can't find how to root it b/c I need to delete a lot of bloatware the main point is I just need to now where to find it.
Thanks guys.
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Hey guys, I had a vibrant 3g the day it came out and I rooted it the sh*t out of it and loved it but I'm trying the 4g slide and I can't find how to root it b/c I need to delete a lot of bloatware the main point is I just need to now where to find it.
Thanks guys.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218251
There aren't many threads in development and only one that says PERMANENT ROOT and one that says S-OFF.
Anyway, just s-off your slide then install the superuser apk.
I recommend reading completely through the S-OFF, Permanent Root, and Clockworkmod 4.0.0.9 threads completely before starting, though, so you know what you'll be in for.
It's definitely a lot better once you root it, and you aren't kidding about a ton of bloat. We're still working out the best ways to and what you can get rid of as far as the bloat goes.
Funny that you mention that, because i'm almost done typing up another segment to my bloat removal thread, probably have it posted within the next twoish hours. Had the day off today, so I could sit down and write it all out.
Looking forward to seeing you on the other side of S-OFF/Root.
Sorry to sound new but what is s-off mean?
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lilredstang said:
Sorry to sound new but what is s-off mean?
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
I recommend reading through all the threads and there posts in this section before proceeding. As this phone is new, there aren't that many and most of your questions will be answered before you even ask them.
Given the complications that could arise from the actions you wish to perform you are definately going to want to brush up on your use the search functions in this forum and out.
Not only will it take less time, but you may find something of interest or import that you can then in turn share with the community.
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
I recommend reading through all the threads and there posts in this section before proceeding. As this phone is new, there aren't that many and most of your questions will be answered before you even ask them.
Given the complications that could arise from the actions you wish to perform you are definately going to want to brush up on your use the search functions in this forum and out.
Not only will it take less time, but you may find something of interest or import that you can then in turn share with the community.
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Just wanted to quote this to emphasize the importance of reading and completely understanding what you are doing BEFORE you attempt to root. It is not an easy process, but it isn't hard if you understand all the steps before hand. By reading all the posts and getting a strong grasp on the entire process, you will also see common mistakes, and not so common mistakes others have run into. It will make the whole thing that much easier for you.
That said, rooting has many advantages. Even without custom roms for these devices yet, just being able to remove all the bloatware, and in some cases replacing preinstalled apps with other ones from the market, such as the notepad app, will give you more internal ROM, it will also greatly improve battery life. My battery life more than doubled just by removing many of the preinstalled apps.
Plus you will have a lot of fun once custom roms start hitting the streets. I'm dying to see how these phones run with CM.
I was going through the Android Software and Hacking General and found some interesting tweaks. Has anyone tried these out?
TweakDrypT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630242
OPERATION KILLJOY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2411161
PurePerformances
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360670
Also, which one would you use?
microzee said:
I was going through the Android Software and Hacking General and found some interesting tweaks. Has anyone tried these out?
TweakDrypT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630242
OPERATION KILLJOY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2411161
PurePerformances
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360670
Also, which one would you use?
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General rule of thumb is to see how your phone is running w/ the ROM you've installed before running one of these scripts. More often than not, whatever additional script(s) you run will conflict with one or more optimizations that were already built into the ROM by the developer.
If you feel there is more optimal performance to be gained after running whatever ROM you're on, please READ, READ and READ some more on what the script is going to provide for you before you run it. This will help avoid bootloops, allow you to know exactly what you're tweaking, and help you make an informed decision without blowing up a developer's page stating that their ROM is @ fault for any degradation in performance.
Also, since you're curious about scripts, you may want to study this one as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
pwrmedia said:
General rule of thumb is to see how your phone is running w/ the ROM you've installed before running one of these scripts. More often than not, whatever additional script(s) you run will conflict with one or more optimizations that were already built into the ROM by the developer.
If you feel there is more optimal performance to be gained after running whatever ROM you're on, please READ, READ and READ some more on what the script is going to provide for you before you run it. This will help avoid bootloops, allow you to know exactly what you're tweaking, and help you make an informed decision without blowing up a developer's page stating that their ROM is @ fault for any degradation in performance.
Also, since you're curious about scripts, you may want to study this one as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Thanks for the info Anyways I'm on stock but I've done a bunch of modifications myself, heres a list in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50896072&postcount=5
So the link you posted, have you used it? Or is it just a recommendation?
pwrmedia said:
General rule of thumb is to see how your phone is running w/ the ROM you've installed before running one of these scripts. More often than not, whatever additional script(s) you run will conflict with one or more optimizations that were already built into the ROM by the developer.
If you feel there is more optimal performance to be gained after running whatever ROM you're on, please READ, READ and READ some more on what the script is going to provide for you before you run it. This will help avoid bootloops, allow you to know exactly what you're tweaking, and help you make an informed decision without blowing up a developer's page stating that their ROM is @ fault for any degradation in performance.
Also, since you're curious about scripts, you may want to study this one as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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thats the most pointless piece of crap script for a modern nexus device. its meant for old school devices like og droid or the g1. most those "magic" scripts. are meant for old school devices. using it on a nexus 5 would be grounds to be laughted at.
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microzee said:
I was going through the Android Software and Hacking General and found some interesting tweaks. Has anyone tried these out?
TweakDrypT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630242
OPERATION KILLJOY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2411161
PurePerformances
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360670
Also, which one would you use?
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none, never would even consider using them on a nexus 5. maybe if i was still using my old g1, with a tiny bit of ram, id consider. never on a device with 2gb of ram, or 1gb lol.
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thats the most pointless piece of crap script for a modern nexus device. its meant for old school devices like og droid or the g1. most those "magic" scripts. are meant for old school devices. using it on a nexus 5 would be grounds to be laughted at.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I was advocating the use of any of those scripts, including the additional one I posted. I merely instructed the OP to read and review any of the ones he's curious in before running it. Bashing another developer's work, regardless of how antiquated it may be or how little of functionality it may serve for the N5, was unnecessary.
I know you probably meant well, but that response was out of line.
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Thanks for the info Anyways I'm on stock but I've done a bunch of modifications myself, heres a list in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50896072&postcount=5
So the link you posted, have you used it? Or is it just a recommendation?
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I haven't ran any on the N5 since I've been content with how performance has been without additional scripts.
As another poster has mentioned, many of these scripts are built for devices that aren't equipped with as much RAM. In any event, you'll be best served to read thoroughly before running one of them.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I was advocating the use of any of those scripts, including the additional one I posted. I merely instructed the OP to read and review any of the ones he's curious in before running it. Bashing another developer's work, regardless of how antiquated it may be or how little of functionality it may serve for the N5, was unnecessary.
I know you probably meant well, but that response was out of line.
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lol, sorry, that wasnt meant for you personally. really, i meant no offence to you :angel:
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I was advocating the use of any of those scripts, including the additional one I posted. I merely instructed the OP to read and review any of the ones he's curious in before running it. Bashing another developer's work, regardless of how antiquated it may be or how little of functionality it may serve for the N5, was unnecessary.
I know you probably meant well, but that response was out of line.
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I haven't ran any on the N5 since I've been content with how performance has been without additional scripts.
As another poster has mentioned, many of these scripts are built for devices that aren't equipped with as much RAM. In any event, you'll be best served to read thoroughly before running one of them.
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The performance on the nexus 5 is amazing, of course, but I want it optimized to the utmost. Anyways, the V6 SuperCharge doesn't support kitkat so thats out.
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lol, sorry, that wasnt meant for you personally. really, i meant no offence to you :angel:
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No worries, and again, I know you meant well.
I also agree that many of those scripts serve the N5 no good in the long run, and ultimately cause more headaches than happiness.
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The performance on the nexus 5 is amazing, of course, but I want it optimized to the utmost. Anyways, the V6 SuperCharge doesn't support kitkat so thats out.
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if you want performance and optimization, stay away from those scripts. find yourself a good kernel, a clean rom, and enjoy your device.
Hello guys
which combination of rom and kernel scores the best battery life?
It's simple:
Kernel: Usage differs
Rom: Questions Belong in Q&A based on 4.4
Sorry if my answer may be 'cocky' but we've got a special section on XDA for questions and answers.
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Use the search feature in xda, there are many tips for battery improvement.
On other hand, i get 5 hours 30mins SOT on wifi and 4 hours SOT on 4G with stock rom and with medium usage.
No matter what you do, flashing diff rom/kernel won't get you any proper battery improvement. Just stick with stock rom and wait for Android L for a better battery performance and usage.
Yes stick with stock..
Battery is nothing to do with ROM and kernel combination. It is to do with ROM and kernel settings.
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Read the first 4 posts in the battery thread in my signature.
And as pointed out above....roms/kernels make a very minor, if any difference to battery life.
Setup, usage and signal strength are the main factors. ?
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Battery is nothing to do with ROM and kernel combination. It is to do with ROM and kernel settings.
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KJ said:
Read the first 4 posts in the battery thread in my signature.
And as pointed out above....roms/kernels make a very minor, if any difference to battery life.
Setup, usage and signal strength are the main factors. ?
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I feel as if we're going to be repeating this even more now.
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I feel as if we're going to be repeating this even more now.
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I have a notepad for XDA posts and link copy pastes. I'll just add the standard statement for this to it. Lol
Someone asked me to stop repeating this recently, I said no....I won't stop trying to help the misinformed. ?
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Hello guys
which combination of rom and kernel scores the best battery life?
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Its totally based on your use. There's no magic combination that works for everyone!
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If there was anything that was "best for battery life", wouldn't someone have been able to prove it by now?
I guess it doesn't help with so many claiming their new ROM/kernel has greatly increased their battery time. Subjective opinions with out proper testing shouldn't be taken as fact though.
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If there was anything that was "best for battery life", wouldn't someone have been able to prove it by now?
I guess it doesn't help with so many claiming their new ROM/kernel has greatly increased their battery time. Subjective opinions with no factual basing shouldn't be taken as fact though.
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think about how many people using any kernel/rom claim that its the best for battery. then again, there are just as many people that claim that the certain kernel/rom give them the same battery life. in reality though, its all about you. how you use your device, how you set it up, which apps you use, etc. but there is one variable that you have no control over, thats the quality of your phone/data connection. and that will determine what is the best battery possibility is for you. if your phone/data signal isnt good quality, then your battery life will always suffer, no matter what.
9 times out of 10....it's the flashing the new Rom and or kernel that clears out an undiagnosed battery issue they had and magically their battery life seems awesome on the new Rom or kernel. ?
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I feel as if we're going to be repeating this even more now.
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Yep. Maybe someone(hint hint) should start an "All-in-one Best thread". Since the reversal of XDA policy I would much rather see all this nonsense contained to one singular thread than reposted in different forms every six hours. I would do it but I'm lazy and wouldn't be able to give that thread the attention it deserves. Just some food for thought.
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Yep. Maybe someone(hint hint) should start an "All-in-one Best thread". Since the reversal of XDA policy I would much rather see all this nonsense contained to one singular thread than reposted in different forms every six hours. I would do it but I'm lazy and wouldn't be able to give that thread the attention it deserves. Just some food for thought.
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It's been suggested to do that, like the N7 2012 has had for awhile....but the individual threads are still allowed and preferable to one dedicated thread.
That was told to me. Reason is the "best" questions usually come with something else. Not just "best Rom"....usually best for this or that....or comparing this to that.
I like the one thread idea....but it what it is and those resisting it are best to let it go and ignore the threads if that's their choice.
That was also said by moderators.
Just letting everyone know. ?
KJ said:
It's been suggested to do that, like the N7 2012 has had for awhile....but the individual threads are still allowed and preferable to one dedicated thread.
That was told to me. Reason is the "best" questions usually come with something else. Not just "best Rom"....usually best for this or that....or comparing this to that.
I like the one thread idea....but it what it is and those resisting it are best to let it go and ignore the threads if that's their choice.
That was also said by moderators.
Just letting everyone know. ?
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Thanks KJ.
I just PM'd one of our mods about the issue. He said he'd go over it with the Mod committee. I also asked for it to be started by a mod and stickied. We'll see what happens. Either way it's the same stuff repeated over and over. Copy and paste. lol
theesotericone said:
Thanks KJ.
I just PM'd one of our mods about the issue. He said he'd go over it with the Mod committee. I also asked for it to be started by a mod and stickied. We'll see what happens. Either way it's the same stuff repeated over and over. Copy and paste. lol
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i kinda started a discussion thread about this(in the general section)..
theesotericone said:
Thanks KJ.
I just PM'd one of our mods about the issue. He said he'd go over it with the Mod committee. I also asked for it to be started by a mod and stickied. We'll see what happens. Either way it's the same stuff repeated over and over. Copy and paste. lol
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Start at this post for my discussion...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55702841
theesotericone said:
Thanks KJ.
I just PM'd one of our mods about the issue. He said he'd go over it with the Mod committee. I also asked for it to be started by a mod and stickied. We'll see what happens. Either way it's the same stuff repeated over and over. Copy and paste. lol
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I asked for some rules. Eg "what ROM has this feature set" = yes, ambiguous best threads = no.
However we probably shouldn't hijack these threads to discuss it.
Everyone with suggestions pm a helpful mod such as @El Daddy and maybe we'll get a compromise, but for now let's just answer the threads with the usual answers
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theesotericone said:
Thanks KJ.
I just PM'd one of our mods about the issue. He said he'd go over it with the Mod committee. I also asked for it to be started by a mod and stickied. We'll see what happens. Either way it's the same stuff repeated over and over. Copy and paste. lol
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Thanks. It's really needed!
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Anyone asking questions like this should stick to stock rom and kernel.
If you can't be bothered to actually use some roms and kernels and tell us what you think how can you evaluate an answer?
Also, obviously you are getting into a touchy area and rejecting anything rom/kernel devs can have to say about it. You want them to come here and battle it out for you?
There is no such thing as best, and many of the custom roms and kernels make a good combo. Look at the rom and kernel threads and decide which gives you the options you want.
Sorry, for not posting it in Help Thread. I was afraid this question might go unnoticed and lost in lots of replies.
I am using a Galaxy Note 3 N900.
My Query is,
In a ROM which is scaled to 420dpi, if I install xPosed Module 'App Settings' for per app dpi, and change dpi of few apps to 320, will it produce any form of lag in switching between apps with 420dpi and apps with 320dpi?
For Example, switching between Samsung Internet Browser (420dpi) and Whatsapp (320dpi). Right now there are no major hiccups. But, can this thing prove to be a stupidity in long run?
Main thing to keep in mind is Exynos5420 does not supports heterogenous multi processing. This may or may not affect the whole process.
Thanks, Regards and Love.
iPreetmalhotra
ipreetmalhotra said:
Sorry, for not posting it in Help Thread. I was afraid this question might go unnoticed and lost in lots of replies.
I am using a Galaxy Note 3 N900.
My Query is,
In a ROM which is scaled to 420dpi, if I install xPosed Module 'App Settings' for per app dpi, and change dpi of few apps to 320, will it produce any form of lag in switching between apps with 420dpi and apps with 320dpi?
For Example, switching between Samsung Internet Browser (420dpi) and Whatsapp (320dpi). Right now there are no major hiccups. But, can this thing prove to be a stupidity in long run?
Main thing to keep in mind is Exynos5420 does not supports heterogenous multi processing. This may or may not affect the whole process.
Thanks, Regards and Love.
iPreetmalhotra
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Test it out and see for yourself, asking won't help you because how your device performs depends on everything you have installed, not everyone installs the same things. How it works for someone else might not be how it works for you even if both devices are the same and using the same ROM.
No one can predict how something will perform or not, all you can do is test.
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Droidriven said:
Test it out and see for yourself, asking won't help you because how your device performs depends on everything you have installed, not everyone installs the same things. How it works for someone else might not be how it works for you even if both devices are the same and using the same ROM.
No one can predict how something will perform or not, all you can do is test.
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Well in that case, nobody will be able to help anyone, because everybody has different usage.
By the way, xPosed Module 'App Settings' was designed, so that people can use different apps at different dpi. I do not think I have done something unique.
Thanks for your valueable opinion.
#Peace.
ipreetmalhotra said:
Well in that case, nobody will be able to help anyone, because everybody has different usage.
By the way, xPosed Module 'App Settings' was designed, so that people can use different apps at different dpi. I do not think I have done something unique.
Thanks for your valueable opinion.
#Peace.
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It's not unique but the results may or may not be different than results others got, that's the point I was making. When it comes to using mods and their performance or how well things run, you can't predict what the results will be or whether there will be performance issues or not, regardless of whether someone else with the same device and same ROM used it with no issue or not, there is only try it and see because your results may be different than someone else's. And THEN if you have issues THEN someone can help you figure out why and how to fix it.
You weren't looking for "help". You were asking what the effects would be before you used it(like a noob would do) because you're afraid of messing up your device so you wanted someone to make you feel safe with the idea intend of just trying it.
"Helping" you would be assisting you get it installed and set up or helping you fix an issue after you install it, that's the kinds of things that require "help".
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Droidriven said:
You weren't looking for "help". You were asking what the effects would be before you used it(like a noob would do) because you're afraid of messing up your device so you wanted someone to make you feel safe with the idea intend of just trying it.
"Helping" you would be assisting you get it installed and set up or helping you fix an issue after you install it, that's the kinds of things that require "help".
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First of all, my dear friend, in my first post, I have not used the word 'Help' apart from mentioning the name of a thread. I hope you know there is a thread called 'Help Thread'. Writing 'Help Thread' in a statement doesn't mean I am asking for help. I simply asked a question in Q & A forum. This was indeed a question and I was only expecting a "Yes, it will affect" or "No, it will not".
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It's not unique but the results may or may not be different than results others got, that's the point I was making. When it comes to using mods and their performance or how well things run, you can't predict what the results will be or whether there will be performance issues or not, regardless of whether someone else with the same device and same ROM used it with no issue or not, there is only try it and see because your results may be different than someone else's. And THEN if you have issues THEN someone can help you figure out why and how to fix it.
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As far as trying is concerned, the first post, again, has a statement:
"Right now there are no major hiccups"
This is a very generous form of english, and this indicates, "I have installed it, and I have, therefore, come to a conclusion". My question was about long term usage and I was expecting a reply from a sensible user who might have used this xPosed Mod ever.
I am surprised I am getting such a response from a recognised contributor. Your reply is so pointless (like a noob would do). Now in case you still want to reply, none of your response will be entertained. All you can now do is ask one of your moderator friends to either remove this thread or remove this account. Have a nice time.
Thanks for being so humble and kind.
When I mentioned help, I was referring to your statement about "no one would be able to help anyone then".
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Droidriven said:
When I mentioned help, I was referring to your statement about "no one would be able to help anyone then".
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Hahaha. That was a generic statement my friend. XDA is a community for every kind of person, so you may and you will encounter lots of people with same or different questions or problems with, again, same or different answers or solutions. You are a recognised contributor and I am just a OP. I don't even know what it means. I should have shown some respect. I am sorry.
#NoOffence #Peace