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Rooting for n00bs!

This is NOT, and I repeat NOT a guide for rooting. It is a warning. Helpful advice if you will. It is here to deter you from making your life as well as those here who help others a nightmare. We are here to help those who want to help themselves. As mentioned in another thread, this forum is here to HELP people. This advice is here to help as helping also includes prevention. The advice below is for the sole purpose of preventing those who don't know what they're doing from bricking their devices prematurely.
If you don't like my advice or my opinion; that is your given right. Remember the forum rules and keep it impersonal, clean and respectful.
I am here to help people and if that includes encouraging members to learn first before they do harm to their device then so be it. If I can prevent even one person from ruining their phone before they learn how to use it then I accomplished something.
Note: Whosdaman; please feel free to move this to whatever section you feel this better fits in. I took a shot putting it here.
Disclaimer/Advice/Humble Opinion:
My advice (without trying to hurt anyone's feelings too much) is DON'T ROOT. I would suggest you familiarize yourself with everything (Linux, ADB, XDA, Google) before diving in head first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. Well; it's not cool to be a n00b and attempt root. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's, boot into Safe mode, Mount R/W, run shell commands or Terminal Emulator etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read, read and re-read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.
If you don't even know what some of the things are that were mentioned, then you should absolutely NOT root your phone. You will likely brick or screw up your phone and then be right back here asking for help in a new thread most definitely created by you out of haste or costing [insert phone manufacturer/carrier here] money by sending your phone back and asking for a replacement simply because you had no idea what you were doing. JMHO
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* Rooting voids your warranty.
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Again, this is not here to offend anyone's sensitivity or hurt your feelings. Many have argued that bricking and recovery is the way they learn. That's fine [for them]. I highly doubt those same people started running before walking, or walking before crawling. But the majority of people need to learn first. Preventing someone from ruining their device is MY best advice.

I didn't know android had a safe mode.
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bubonik said:
I didn't know android had a safe mode.
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1.) Power Off>remove battery>WAIT for at least two minutes.
2.) Power On Phone while Holding MENU key until you get to the lock screen>At the bottom left corner of the display in transparent text will be the words "Safe Mode"
When in safe mode, Android does not load any third-party apps, and you can uninstall the application that gave you trouble from Settings > Applications > Manage applications.
To exit Safe Mode:
1.) Power off phone again>remove battery>wait two minutes
2.) Do a normal power on ...

So after reading this I still couldn't figure out how to get this root stuff you were talking about. I don't know what this "search" or "google" is. But if this makes me cool then I'm all about it- maybe I could get a girlfriend finally.
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WHY?
The advice, while a successful deterrent, is not very useful. If people are here on this website, chances are they are here to learn something new about how to improve or customize their phones. We were all noobs at one point in time an I know that I benfited greatly from all the guides and reference threads here. Why not post some links to some helpful threads and say "Read these BEFORE you try anything," not "Don't try it at all and if you want to do it, find your own way to." Just a thought.

t-mo123 said:
If people are here on this website, chances are they are here to learn something new about how to improve or customize their phones.
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And that is exactly my advice. LEARN FIRST. Browse through the threads and see how many are beginners who jumped too soon and are now asking for help. It's ridiculous. If you don't like my advice move on and troll another thread. Many here agree with what I've suggested. Take it or leave it.
In my experience, the ones who have a problem with this are the ones who are guilty of it. People who want to be 'cool' and root without learning then clutter the forums begging for help.

Honestly I think you're making a sweeping generalization assuming that anyone who roots their phone without reading everything there is to read first is just trying to be "cool".
Granted, there are a lot of folks out there that could stand to take a lesson or two in common sense, but I don't think it does anyone any good to tell all the "n00bs" to essentially eff off until they've done more research than I think most people on this forum who've successfully rooted would normally do.
There are numerous disclaimers that tell people to stay away from rooting unless they either know what they're doing or are willing to take a risk, and there are numerous people who learn by doing rather than reading.
In fact I would venture a guess that, were people to subscribe to your suggestion, this forum and indeed the entire Android dev ecosphere would suffer greatly, because many devs learn by tweaking and fixing... usually something that they themselves broke!
I don't ask that you change your opinion. Simply that you ask yourself what you really hope to accomplish with this post. It would seem to me that the people you hope to deter would just be insulted and ignore it.
As a previous poster had mentioned, it would be more convincing if you provided resource links to help educate those you are trying to reach.
Also, before you sling that "troll" moniker my way as you did a previous poster, you might do well to remember that just as you have the right to post your opinion, others have the right to disagree.
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well sir, maybe some of us noobs got tired of not being able to use any apps over wifi on our blackberry without data a blackberry plan and bought an android phone so we can have more freedom.
maybe some of us noobs are diving into rooting so we can use setpcu and squeeze more than the stock 2 hour heavy use we get from a stock MT4G
maybe some of us want to learn more about the system but we ask so many questions because we dont know where to get VISIONary plus since its no longer in the market place.
i dunno about other noobs but a thread with links to what to read to learn more is way more beneficial to me than this one telling me to stay out the circle of android trust.
perhaps you are the one who thinks being rooted is "cool"?(no disrespect meant)
some of us do really want to learn and we appreciate every help and every answer we get to our questions from you veterans.
so please have a little patience and/or noob tolerance. someday we'll learn and stop asking the same question that had been answered a doze times already

A simple Google search turned up 302,000 for Visionary. Maybe if you stopped and thought before you posted you might have better results.
Again, this thread wasn't meant to hurt anyone's sensitive feelings [as it seems it has]. It was meant to deter new members/rookies from diving into something before they learned it. Obviously with the new breed of youngsters these days that just isn't the case. Common sense seems to have taken a back door to rushed gratification. Intelligent strategy is how many of us learned, not jumping in and screwing things up.
By jumping in and messing things up, you not only make things harder on yourselves but waste our time helping with things that have been answered a thousand times and a simple search would have taught you that.
As with anything in life, you need to 'learn' before you do something. Cognitive retention is key to mastering anything.
Your logic of diving in without thought or regard for yourself or others that will end up helping you is almost insulting. You will find that many of the longtime users/devs/veterans here enjoy helping people who take precautions and want to help themselves. But almost none of them/us really care to help those who jump blindly.
JMHO. Take it however you like. And you don't need to take it from me; just try and get help in here when you do something dumb and see how much help you get from senior members.

CBConsultation said:
A simple Google search turned up 302,000 for Visionary. Maybe if you stopped and thought before you posted you might have better results.
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I don't know what you did there, but I just did a simple google search for Visionary and got "About 9,880,000 results (0.11 seconds)"
Maybe your google fu is weak or something..
On another note back on topic, I couldn't disagree more with your OP.. As a newb I think diving right in is the best thing to do to learn.. I Can read a wiki for hours about a phone, but that doesn't give you the same experience of 10 minutes hands on does..
My biggest suggestion to a newb to this **** is dont start with a high end device.. Buy a HTC Wizard or Excalibur off craigslist & play with & tweak them 1st.. Then maybe a g1 or something.. That way if you do **** up & brick your device your not toast..
IMHO there is no better way to learn something then to do it.. But also when you have problems, don't think your unique & that nobody has ever posted your question before, Search for it 1st & then only post asking for help if you cant find it..

bastage said:
.. But also when you have problems, don't think your unique & that nobody has ever posted your question before, Search for it 1st & then only post asking for help if you cant find it..
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And search further then the first page.
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I think I'll leave it in here, maybe even sticky it later

CB, while I can understand your frustration I believe your attitude could be seen as elitist.
I think that perhaps what we should be doing is trying to come up with a root cause solution that might work instead of telling people not to try something like rooting. As another poster implied, it's not that people shouldn't be rooting, but that they shouldn't be asking questions for which there are already answers.
This seems like the problem you're trying to address, not the problem of someone rooting their phone or not.
So let's put aside the discussion of how one learns and who has the right to root and focus on the issue of "inappropriate" posts.
Does that sound like a reasonable alternative?
Hopefully whatever comes out of this discussion could be used to improve the forum experience for everyone.
I should mention that I'm not really sure this thread should be in the dev section of the forum... Seems more like general discussion since the OP is more of an ideological opinion piece at this point.
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OP, does your soapbox come with a salad? Someone likes to hear himself talk...sheesh.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G

viper3ez said:
well sir, maybe some of us noobs got tired of not being able to use any apps over wifi on our blackberry without data a blackberry plan and bought an android phone so we can have more freedom.
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As much as I HATE blackberries, I have to correct you. You do NOT need a data feature to use web over wifi on a Blackberry. How the hell would that make sense, seriously? But yes keep in mind, I am still not a BB fan lol, hate those pieces of crap.
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yo
so im not cool?

teamsilence said:
so im not cool?
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You're still cool in my book.

teamsilence said:
so im not cool?
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Your the bee's knees! Lol
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teamsilence said:
so im not cool?
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Your so cool your like an iced glacier.
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CBConsultation said:
A simple Google search turned up 302,000 for Visionary.
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Good lord, does anyone here actually have the time to go through 302.000 pages? Maybe I am the only one who has kids and a wife, but I know I don't have time to take a freaking computer programing course to teach myself how to use freaking cmnd lines. The crap I have seen on different forums that walk people through different rooting procedures on different phones acts as though everyone know WTF they are doing and/or has the time to spend hours a day learning. Guess what? Not everyone does. I spend hours a day teaching people the basics of how to use their phones and I have to give directions my grandmother could follow, is it to much to ask for detailed instruction that someone who has a very basic understanding of how to use these phones could follow? I don't think so. If you "seniors" could realize that you aren't cooler because you know what you are doing, and did the responsible thing and shared your knowledge without *****ing, moaning, and complaining about n00bs, you could help more n00bs become 'seniors' themselves and have more people out there able to help others.

My first smartphone, the HTC ONE X (at&t)

In an attempt to not step on the lawn, I am going to try and make my first post useful to other noobs, regardless of my own ability level.
I see that others have made a "my first phone" thread in other sections using search, and I did not notice one in this forum yet. I don't know if this post will make it past muster or not, or if it will be the same as other kinds of posts, but the way I see it, it would be rad if I came to xda/htc/attonex and found a post identical to this one, that had started a couple months ago. Alas, time travel isn't available.
My problem is that I am literally experiencing this phone as my first smartphone ever, and I am too ignorant to even know what a good question is. So I find myself with a quandary. On the one hand, I am tech savvy enough to know that my phone is capable of more than at&t/htc wants to let on, and I know that there is this sea of people that know a lot about this stuff. On the other hand, I don't even know what phones can really do, why I would want it to do those things, or how to go about learning the smart and safe way to do those things without fear of "bricking" my new toy.
It's really daunting to look at this forum for a noob. I need some good info on android as well as good info on my phone, and just browsing the forum for the last few days has led me to more questions and more complex questions before I have the basics, and I feel like that's going to get me in trouble here.
If people could do the following in response to this post: point me in the right direction for informative posts/websites/forums/etc on android, specifically basic OS functionality & rooting basics for people who do not understand/use linux; point me to informative beginner oriented (not just reviews or w/e, but basics) posts/websites/forums/etc on the at&t1x, specifically anything that is not on the htc site or the at&t site, which is basically my understanding level right now; if i ask stupid questions about your thought-out posts in here and i totally miss your point, please be patient with me; point me to apps and app stores, I have only used the play store - I know there is more out there, but freaked out about viruses and stuff.
I know I'm asking for a lot of hand-holding, but I promise that after the movie we can make out if you want. I'm not stupid, but I am certainly ignorant about androids. HALP.

YouTube is you friend, there are some great walkthroughs on there. Along with read,read,read. Welcome to XDA, ENJOY your time here, you are off to a very advanced start, great phone choice along with grea first post...the force is strong with this one:thumbup:
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@MichaelHaley
You wouldn't happen to be from Buffalo New York would you?
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What I did when I started was just look at posts and any word or anything at all that I didn't understand i just Googled it. I learned alot like that.
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http://droidlessons.com/

E.Cadro said:
@MichaelHaley
You wouldn't happen to be from Buffalo New York would you?
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Nope. California.
bradleyG said:
What I did when I started was just look at posts and any word or anything at all that I didn't understand i just Googled it. I learned alot like that.
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I don't have a problem with understanding words, but thanks.
filthyfnj24 said:
droidlessons - link which i can not post yet
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This is the kind of stuff I'm looking for, I figure people here would know which ones like this are quality vs. time wasters. This level and slightly above is about where I'm at. Thanks a lot.

MichaelHaley said:
Nope. California.
I don't have a problem with understanding words, but thanks.
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I don't think he meant basic words. But stuff like adb shell. Asop. Root. S off. S on. Just to name a few. If you don't know this basic words, your time here will be a pain.
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tae_254 said:
I don't think he meant basic words. But stuff like adb shell. Asop. Root. S off. S on. Just to name a few. If you don't know this basic words, your time here will be a pain.
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Lists of useful words and terms are awesome! Thanks! Please add!

MichaelHaley said:
Lists of useful words and terms are awesome! Thanks! Please add!
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You're still missing bradleyG's original point. If there are esoteric terms you don't understand, just Google them. This will help you out:
http://bit.ly/KSfCM7
Boom. That was easy.
Seriously, Google is your friend, as is the XDA search. You're not going to think of a question that hasn't already been answered at length on XDA. Maybe not for the One X, specifically, since the device is so new. But for general Android stuff, just doing a general search using the XDA function, of Googling will probably get you an answer within a few minutes. For that matter, just spend some time browsing through the General, and Q&A forums, and reading the threads that look of interest to you. In no time at all, you'll have some decent working knowledge. The learning curve may look intimidating from where you are. But don't worry, its really not that bad. Seriously, just a few hours of reading on XDA will probably put above the knowledge level of the majority of smartphone owners.
If you are truly stumped after searching and reading on your own, post a question in Q&A. But do your due diligence first. Simple reason for this is that the forum would become useless if it was clogged up by every single question that beginners think up.
And welcome to the club. The One X is a helluva first smartphone.

redpoint73 said:
You're still missing bradleyG's original point. If there are esoteric terms you don't understand, just Google them. This will help you out:
http://bit.ly/KSfCM7
Boom. That was easy.
Seriously, Google is your friend, as is the XDA search. You're not going to think of a question that hasn't already been answered at length on XDA. Maybe not for the One X, specifically, since the device is so new. But for general Android stuff, just doing a general search using the XDA function, of Googling will probably get you an answer within a few minutes. For that matter, just spend some time browsing through the General, and Q&A forums, and reading the threads that look of interest to you. In no time at all, you'll have some decent working knowledge. The learning curve may look intimidating from where you are. But don't worry, its really not that bad. Seriously, just a few hours of reading on XDA will probably put above the knowledge level of the majority of smartphone owners.
If you are truly stumped after searching and reading on your own, post a question in Q&A. But do your due diligence first. Simple reason for this is that the forum would become useless if it was clogged up by every single question that beginners think up.
And welcome to the club. The One X is a helluva first smartphone.
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Ai ai ai. Thanks for the help dude, but my whole point is that I don't even know enough to know what kinds of questions I should be having. Once I get started, I can use forum searches and google well, so for specific questions I will need very little help. I'm just not coming up with any questions.
Picture me sitting there, staring at the phone, hoping it will do something, looking puzzled when it doesn't, and then start posting links.

I see what you're saying. What you are asking for is really too broad a topic to write a guide or anything like that. As a start, just try looking through the threads in the various forums. Development subforum has mods (modifications) and stuff along those lines. The Themes and Apps subforum will give you some ideas on some cool apps and widgets. You'll quickly get a good idea of what possibilities are out there. And trust me, plenty of specific questions will pop up in your mind soon enough.
Since you are brand new to the smartphone world, apps is a good place to start. Just Google around for best Android apps and see what interests you. Even the Play Store has some issues with malware and other malicious software. But these are usually less popular apps, made by shady software developers. If you read up on best apps at reputable websites like PCMag, Gizmodi, CNET, you shouldn't go wrong. The more popular, tried and true apps tend to be very safe. Lots of the best functionality of smartphones is through apps, so this is a good place to start.
My advice would be to use the device for a while, and see what it can do running stock before you think about rooting and other mods. Unless you are looking at specific mods (removing bloatware or adding back some of the things that AT&T removed like FM radio and flashlight) you probably shouldn't be considering root just yet.

Android Central is a good website with lots of information that you should find interesting if this is your first android device. They have put together a really good android dictionary which is found here: http://www.androidcentral.com/dictionary
They also run an android a to z series on their blog which has a ton of info and goes a little more in depth than just giving definitions.
Enjoy your phone, for a first smart phone you picked a serious winner! There are a few quarks (which are all outlined pretty well in this forum) but for the most part this phone is great.

bradleyG said:
What I did when I started was just look at posts and any word or anything at all that I didn't understand i just Googled it. I learned alot like that.
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Cant beat this advice. Read everything, assume your questions has already been asked. The more you read, the more questions you'll have and then the more reading you'll want to do to find the answers. This website is really a PHENOMENAL resource, but I find myself constantly googling terms/comments/procedures that I dont understand. I'm quite technologically inclined but relatively new to the android world and have only been using XDA for a couple months. However, I find myself mostly only posting on very topical threads. For the hardcore technical research and development, I prefer to sit back and just read about the amazing work that the developers are doing. Welcome!

I'll second what everyone else said. I was where you were a few months ago. Though I came from four years on iOS, I was an Android noob. I've been reading and browsing xda and other sites just trying to get my bearings. It's very intimidating at first, but you've just got to start somewhere. Start reading, trying to get the general gist of things before worrying about the exact terminology. Bit by bit things will start sounding familiar, and you'll have some context to start framing your searches. Really, they're not kidding about 99.99% of noob questions being already answered somewhere; you've just got to know the right way to ask.
Just be patient and don't give up. Three weeks into my One X ownership, I'm rooted and gradually getting some confidence in modding my phone. (I was an experienced iOS jailbreaker, but life is different over here in a lot of ways.)

redpoint73 said:
You're still missing bradleyG's original point. If there are esoteric terms you don't understand, just Google them. This will help you out:
http://bit.ly/KSfCM7
Boom. That was easy.
Seriously, Google is your friend, as is the XDA search. You're not going to think of a question that hasn't already been answered at length on XDA. Maybe not for the One X, specifically, since the device is so new. But for general Android stuff, just doing a general search using the XDA function, of Googling will probably get you an answer within a few minutes. For that matter, just spend some time browsing through the General, and Q&A forums, and reading the threads that look of interest to you. In no time at all, you'll have some decent working knowledge. The learning curve may look intimidating from where you are. But don't worry, its really not that bad. Seriously, just a few hours of reading on XDA will probably put above the knowledge level of the majority of smartphone owners.
If you are truly stumped after searching and reading on your own, post a question in Q&A. But do your due diligence first. Simple reason for this is that the forum would become useless if it was clogged up by every single question that beginners think up.
And welcome to the club. The One X is a helluva first smartphone.
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This is exactly what I meant. There is no all powerful guide that will teach you everything you need to know. It takes time to learn all these things and only diligence will prove to give you what you need. I remember when I first got my g1 I didn't know anything. I started looking for mods/hacks I could do to it and stumbled upon xda. Then I found out about rooting so I looked up stuff about rooting like what are the benefits of it, the risks, and tutorials. Then one thing leads to another rooting leads to ROMs and kernels, kernels lead to overclocking, etc. You'll soon be an expert and have advice to give other people. The more you read, the better. But you will never get to a point where there is nothing new to be learned, you will eventually make a habit of looking up different things after you do it for so long. Just stick with it and you will get the hang of it.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

redpoint73 said:
I see what you're saying. What you are asking for is really too broad a topic to write a guide or anything like that. As a start, just try looking through the threads in the various forums. Development subforum has mods (modifications) and stuff along those lines. The Themes and Apps subforum will give you some ideas on some cool apps and widgets. You'll quickly get a good idea of what possibilities are out there. And trust me, plenty of specific questions will pop up in your mind soon enough.
Since you are brand new to the smartphone world, apps is a good place to start. Just Google around for best Android apps and see what interests you. Even the Play Store has some issues with malware and other malicious software. But these are usually less popular apps, made by shady software developers. If you read up on best apps at reputable websites like PCMag, Gizmodi, CNET, you shouldn't go wrong. The more popular, tried and true apps tend to be very safe. Lots of the best functionality of smartphones is through apps, so this is a good place to start.
My advice would be to use the device for a while, and see what it can do running stock before you think about rooting and other mods. Unless you are looking at specific mods (removing bloatware or adding back some of the things that AT&T removed like FM radio and flashlight) you probably shouldn't be considering root just yet.
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Yes thank you for that, I know that apps are about my speed right now but my sights are set UP!! Hehe. I really was trying to figure out about the flashlight and FM radio already, but couldn't find a setting in the phone. Is that a root thing? I also hate bloat ware, even if i can disable it, i know MOG Radio & AT&T IdiotWare is there, just taking up space, and it bugs the hell out of me! I also want to do things like check out vanilla android so I can know what sense is, but i understand that requires a bootloader? Which I am reading about.. but that seems like some pretty advanced stuff.. I'll get there hopefully.
bmolloy said:
Android Central is a good website with lots of information that you should find interesting if this is your first android device. They have put together a really good android dictionary which is found here: http://www.androidcentral.com/dictionary
They also run an android a to z series on their blog which has a ton of info and goes a little more in depth than just giving definitions.
Enjoy your phone, for a first smart phone you picked a serious winner! There are a few quarks (which are all outlined pretty well in this forum) but for the most part this phone is great.
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Yes thank you very much, this is exactly the kind of specific stuff I'm looking for, not that general advice isn't great too!
bradleyG said:
This is exactly what I meant. There is no all powerful guide that will teach you everything you need to know. It takes time to learn all these things and only diligence will prove to give you what you need. I remember when I first got my g1 I didn't know anything. I started looking for mods/hacks I could do to it and stumbled upon xda. Then I found out about rooting so I looked up stuff about rooting like what are the benefits of it, the risks, and tutorials. Then one thing leads to another rooting leads to ROMs and kernels, kernels lead to overclocking, etc. You'll soon be an expert and have advice to give other people. The more you read, the better. But you will never get to a point where there is nothing new to be learned, you will eventually make a habit of looking up different things after you do it for so long. Just stick with it and you will get the hang of it.
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I think I may have come off more adversarial to you than I meant to.. I wasn't trying to minimize what you said.. Of course research is essential, and I plan to not bug you guys with stupid questions as much as possible.. I'm just trying to build a repository of reference for complete noobtards like me here in this thread so it's all in one place. When I have specific questions about terms and things I will of course employ due diligence before I bring that stuff to the community, but like I said, I'm not even there yet..

OK so I have a question that I tried to search for and came up with nil. Every so often, when I run this or that program, or sometimes on start up, some of my icons do one of two things: 1.) they lose the text under the icon, 2.) they lose the text under the icon and the icon turns into the generic android icon.
Wutdo?

MichaelHaley said:
OK so I have a question that I tried to search for and came up with nil. Every so often, when I run this or that program, or sometimes on start up, some of my icons do one of two things: 1.) they lose the text under the icon, 2.) they lose the text under the icon and the icon turns into the generic android icon.
Wutdo?
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Restart/ force close the launcher. Or get a new launcher like go or nova.

Cryosx said:
Restart/ force close the launcher. Or get a new launcher like go or nova.
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I feel like a complete tard, but after searching and finding nothing, I can't figure out how to do what you're saying.

Cryosx said:
Restart/ force close the launcher. Or get a new launcher like go or nova.
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Is that just like the proper way to say restart the phone?

Mix/Matching Roms

I was going to post in the rookie thread in Development, but decided that my question was most likely better off in here.
I have been running beanstalk, and while I like it to me it isn't pac man.
I'm curious, there are some small things that I would like to maybe make part of PAC but I don't know how difficult it would be.
I would like to steal one of the battery mods that is in beanstalk. Would there be an easy way?
I would also like to find a way to add transparant notification drawer. Would there be an easy way?
I obviously don't want to ask a DEV to change what they like in there rom that they are porting/creating, but I also do not believe I have enough capability to build my own rom.
Any assistance/information you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Dex954 said:
I obviously don't want to ask a DEV to change what they like in there rom that they are porting/creating, but I also do not believe I have enough capability to build my own rom.
Any assistance/information you can give would be greatly appreciated.
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This mentality here is unacceptable your on a development forum if you feel you lack the capability you've already given up by selling yourself short. I'm tired of people saying I can't learn or I don't have time because it's garbage. Most of the guys doing this have families, jobs, issues, and lives like everyone else and they still make time.
As for the icons it would require you to replace them with a swap since you won't be able to add them to the menus so start with framework-res.apk and systemUI.apk see if you can find the ones you want.

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This mentality here is unacceptable your on a development forum if you feel you lack the capability you've already given up by selling yourself short. I'm tired of people saying I can't learn or I don't have time because it's garbage. Most of the guys doing this have families, jobs, issues, and lives like everyone else and they still make time.
As for the icons it would require you to replace them with a swap since you won't be able to add them to the menus so start with framework-res.apk and systemUI.apk see if you can find the ones you want.
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This mentality of everyone is able to do something is simply incorrect. A paralyzed person from the hips down is not going to be able to run under his own power. And the fact that I didn't post this in the DEV section still merits me an ambush. This whole I'm "entitled" mentality to say something because I have done something before on this forum is hilarious. I'm glad that you can make time for it I get too frustrated, and you want to go ahead and look at what the OP of the project rookie thread states? Sorry for doing research before I delved into something I wasn't sure about.
PS Thanks for the information that was ACTUALLY given

Dex954 said:
This mentality of everyone is able to do something is simply incorrect. A paralyzed person from the hips down is not going to be able to run under his own power. And the fact that I didn't post this in the DEV section still merits me an ambush. This whole I'm "entitled" mentality to say something because I have done something before on this forum is hilarious. I'm glad that you can make time for it I get too frustrated, and you want to go ahead and look at what the OP of the project rookie thread states? Sorry for doing research before I delved into something I wasn't sure about.
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So its OK to just dismiss things because you get frustrated anything people want to get good at takes time and effort. The battery stuff has been talked about before so I'm assuming your search was not very thorough but my point was don't sell yourself short and give up before you even try. Also determined people find something they can do if they are paralyzed from the waist down they may never run but could still do tons of great things. You see the glass half empty I see it half full.
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You need to post these questions to the rookie thread ... of course, after you have searched.
What you are asking has been answered in this massive place called XDA many times. In fact, I even posted a specific tutorial on how to modify SystemUI.apk for battery mods months ago. I just searched ... and guess what? It's still here ...
Based on the questions you're asking, it is clear that you haven't done any research or leg work on your end. I'm not trying to flame you, just letting you know how other people see this thread.
Nobody is going to handhold you through something if you haven't at least tried to figure it out on your own first. When you get stuck with specific questions because something isn't working, or you have an error in your builds, go to the Rookie Thread first. We are willing to help anyone get going, but not if you aren't willing to put in the effort.
Good luck!

[Q] General questions about customization

Hi there, XDA!
I have recently received my OnePlus One, and I'm switching from Apple (iPhone 5S), which I have used many years (Apple that is), and I have always jailbroken my device, because otherwise iOS/Apple is a complete waste of money, IMO.
Anyways, I haven't used Android since HTC Hero, which I found way to slow and not very smooth, which actually lead to me choosing Apple!
Since I haven't used Android in such a long time, my expertise and research skills are unfortunately not enough to get what I want.
So, the first thing I thought of, when I got the OnePlus One, was that I had to root it, even though it comes shipped with Cyanogen mod, I love to customize my phones and "hack" them as much as I can to get the most use out of my phone.
I have installed the crDroid Rom, which I enjoy using, since it's simple and have a lot of good features. --- I would greatly appreciate any suggestions to a simple, yet functional rom for the OnePlus one though.
Alright, now for the questions;
Is there any way to make Halo work on the lockscreen?
If so, can I enable the floating-app-window function, on the lockscreen as well?
Are there any way of enabling the floating-app-window function, that Halo have - ON the lockscreen? This is so I can quickly reply from multiple apps, and not just the stock messaging app / email app. This is why I don't want Handcent SMS client etc.. <-- this is actually the most important part of my questions, so any help would be grateful! (and yes; I have been searching!)
The floating-app-window function would be great for any app in general! Like launching any app on the lockscreen/home/under any app to quickly use it, then dismiss it.
Is there any app like the Cydia app "Flex"? This is an app that can tweak other apps, by kind of "patching" them on-the-go. I know there is something called "Lucky Patcher", but this is used for piracy, afaik, and I'm not a huge fan of piracy, so this is not an option. (plus, they generally contain a lot of malware/bloatware/adware)
So, that sums up my questions for my new phone so far, thanks for reading and hopefully replying!
Cheers,
- opoBear

opoBear said:
I would greatly appreciate any suggestions to a simple, yet functional rom for the OnePlus one though.
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Asking which ROM is best/most stable/fastest/prettiest, or asking for a suggestion isn't allowed so nobody can answer that, here's why. To say one ROM is better is to infer that the others are inferior in some way. This is disrespectful to the devs who spend their spare time bringing us these awesome ROMs free of charge. Each user has different tastes anyway, the best way to see which ROM suits you is to flash a few and find out for yourself.
Alright, now for the questions;
Is there any way to make Halo work on the lockscreen?
If so, can I enable the floating-app-window function, on the lockscreen as well?
Are there any way of enabling the floating-app-window function, that Halo have - ON the lockscreen? This is so I can quickly reply from multiple apps, and not just the stock messaging app / email app. This is why I don't want Handcent SMS client etc.. <-- this is actually the most important part of my questions, so any help would be grateful! (and yes; I have been searching!)
The floating-app-window function would be great for any app in general! Like launching any app on the lockscreen/home/under any app to quickly use it, then dismiss it.
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No, and no. That would completely defeat the purpose of the lockscreen. If you want that kind of functionality you can disable your lockscreen.
[*]Is there any app like the Cydia app "Flex"? This is an app that can tweak other apps, by kind of "patching" them on-the-go. I know there is something called "Lucky Patcher", but this is used for piracy, afaik, and I'm not a huge fan of piracy, so this is not an option. (plus, they generally contain a lot of malware/bloatware/adware)
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So, that sums up my questions for my new phone so far, thanks for reading and hopefully replying!
Cheers,
- opoBear
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What exactly do you mean by 'patching' other apps? That isn't very specific.
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I have no experience with it myself, but maybe those things can be done with xposed?

Thank you for the reply.
IMO, it wouldn't defeat the purpose of the lockscreen, at all. Especially if you could chose which apps that were floatable on the lockscreen.
As for asking which ROM, that was mainly to hear other people's opinion, no offense intended, so no need to be insanely cocky, lmfao. And AFAIK, freedom of speech still exist in the US, especially the internet
Well, if you clicked the link for the iOS tweak, you could read what I mean, instead of me posting a lot of information for one person, it's a very complex application, but it was mainly made for creating easy tweaks on the iPhone.

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Thank you for the reply.
IMO, it wouldn't defeat the purpose of the lockscreen, at all. Especially if you could chose which apps that were floatable on the lockscreen.
As for asking which ROM, that was mainly to hear other people's opinion, no offense intended, so no need to be insanely cocky, lmfao. And AFAIK, freedom of speech still exist in the US, especially the internet
Well, if you clicked the link for the iOS tweak, you could read what I mean, instead of me posting a lot of information for one person, it's a very complex application, but it was mainly made for creating easy tweaks on the iPhone.
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If you'd like, I could ask a moderator to explain to you why asking for ROM suggestions isn't allowed. There was nothing cocky about what I said, just informing you of something that's pretty common knowledge on XDA.
Freedom of speech does exist in the US. But, this is a privately owned and international forum which has rules that you must abide by (and agreed to when signing up for this site).
@Naddict, could you kindly explain the situation with asking for ROM suggestions please? I've seen you explain it quite well numerous times before.
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If you'd like, I could ask a moderator to explain to you why asking for ROM suggestions isn't allowed. There was nothing cocky about what I said, just informing you of something that's pretty common knowledge on XDA.
Freedom of speech does exist in the US. But, this is a privately owned and international form which has rules that you must abide by (and agreed to when signing up for this site).
@Naddict, could you kindly explain the situation with asking for ROM suggestions please? I've seen you explain it quite well numerous times before.
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I'm not Naddict but I see Naddict closing threads with this message,
XDA is a development site not a support site. As the term "Best" or "Most Stable" is a very subjective term, such members are expected to do their own research, read through the development threads, and decide what is "Best/Most Stable" for them.
The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be "Best" or "Most Stable" for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. And at times, these thread spiral into arguments over which is perceived "Best/Most Stable".
Please take the time to read through the development threads, and interact with the members there, to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/whats-best-rom-battery-life-t2835283
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Yuuuuuuppppp! Thanks!

Even though I really didn't care why it's not "allowed" to discuss which ROM is "better", I thank you for the informative post.
I do get why, and therefore there was no need for a moderator to explain anything, but it just shows how uptight you are. Hope you have a GF to get all that seriousness out of you.
Good day, sir.

opoBear said:
Thank you for the reply.
IMO, it wouldn't defeat the purpose of the lockscreen, at all. Especially if you could chose which apps that were floatable on the lockscreen.
As for asking which ROM, that was mainly to hear other people's opinion, no offense intended, so no need to be insanely cocky, lmfao. And AFAIK, freedom of speech still exist in the US, especially the internet
Well, if you clicked the link for the iOS tweak, you could read what I mean, instead of me posting a lot of information for one person, it's a very complex application, but it was mainly made for creating easy tweaks on the iPhone.
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I think xposed is what you're looking for which may closely resemble Flex. Although you will have to find a module to co-exist with it to suit your needs. As far as a best rom and other stuff the above guys are right though I see a lot of subjective questions asked. I will say this much though.
Take a look at the 5 star roms first and read the OP to see if any of the customizations are what you are looking for. They all have there pros and cons its just that the for some the pros are the cons and vice versa.
Happy Hunting

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Asking which ROM is best/most stable/fastest/prettiest, or asking for a suggestion isn't allowed so nobody can answer that, here's why. To say one ROM is better is to infer that the others are inferior in some way. This is disrespectful to the devs who spend their spare time bringing us these awesome ROMs free of charge. Each user has different tastes anyway, the best way to see which ROM suits you is to flash a few and find out for yourself.
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Oh, the IRONY!! Hahahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aiRYeARJVc

Which Alternative Chrome Operating Systems come with Google Play Store?

Just curious about this since Remix OS has been discontinued and I know of no other alternative Chrome OS where Google Play Store is pre-packaged. Can anyone help?

bwpbruce said:
Just curious about this since Remix OS has been discontinued and I know of no other alternative Chrome OS where Google Play Store is pre-packaged. Can anyone help?
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Why does it have to be ChromeOS and does it have to have Google PlayStore prepackaged? You can flash any ROM that is available for your device and then flash a compatible Gapps package.
I fail to see the significant difference between a ROM that is prepackaged with Google PlayStore and a ROM that has to have a Gapps package flashed along with it.
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I thought I was asking a normal question that any user would properly answer, but apparently not. Instead of just answering the question, you respond my asking more questions and you ask them in a way that suggests I've done something terribly wrong. Bro, you're making this more complicated than what it really is. Just answer the question. If you are not able to, then why respond at all?

bwpbruce said:
I thought I was asking a normal question that any user would properly answer, but apparently not. Instead of just answering the question, you respond my asking more questions and you ask them in a way that suggests I've done something terribly wrong. Bro, you're making this more complicated than what it really is. Just answer the question. If you are not able to, then why respond at all?
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I was just curious, that's all. More of a want to know your reasoning than anything else. It stands to reason that you have a specific reason or purpose behind wanting what you want. I don't know or understand your purpose so I asked what the signifigance of what you were looking for was.
After all, understanding your purpose would better facilitate a potential answer. Your purpose might influence what are or are not viable options to achieve what you are looking for.
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