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looking for the best gaming performance on my Shift. currently im on Motoblur'd V2.0 and loving it. but i have a affinity for Sense UI. is there a rom or kernel or settings for any of the Sense roms that will allow similar performance to the CM roms that will allow me to play games like Beat Hazard Ultra and Dead Space and Galaxy on Fire 2 without so many hiccups?
dragonhart6505 said:
looking for the best gaming performance on my Shift. currently im on Motoblur'd V2.0 and loving it. but i have a affinity for Sense UI. is there a rom or kernel or settings for any of the Sense roms that will allow similar performance to the CM roms that will allow me to play games like Beat Hazard Ultra and Dead Space and Galaxy on Fire 2 without so many hiccups?
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Pretty much all the Sense Roms here are great. But go to right now when people for me are StockMod,strapped365's Rooted Stock OTA, newSense, and legendary-InFaMoUs 2.2. As for kernels both drop's , and strapped's kernels always worked well for me.
dragonhart6505 said:
looking for the best gaming performance on my Shift. currently im on Motoblur'd V2.0 and loving it. but i have a affinity for Sense UI. is there a rom or kernel or settings for any of the Sense roms that will allow similar performance to the CM roms that will allow me to play games like Beat Hazard Ultra and Dead Space and Galaxy on Fire 2 without so many hiccups?
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newSense :good:
suprisingly i havent tried newSense yet i dont think. dl'ing right now. and im assuming (not to sound like a broken record *check my other thread*) audio enhancements work well?
dragonhart6505 said:
suprisingly i havent tried newSense yet i dont think. dl'ing right now. and im assuming (not to sound like a broken record *check my other thread*) audio enhancements work well?
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Try the kernel settings from here (under performance):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158323
would if i could get newSense to boot. probably because of TWRP?
dragonhart6505 said:
would if i could get newSense to boot. probably because of TWRP?
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Hmm might be
Whats your wiping procedure? System, data, cache, dalvik multiple times before flashing? I would highly recommend dread7us' CWM enhanced recovery over TWRP
Yeah, TWRP has been known to have trouble flashing sense roms in the past. Works great on my Touchpad...not so much on the Shift.
CNexus said:
Hmm might be
Whats your wiping procedure? System, data, cache, dalvik multiple times before flashing? I would highly recommend dread7us' CWM enhanced recovery over TWRP
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no worries it finally installed. went from Motoblur'd to Supreme Sense VII to newSense. figured it might behave better if it had a sense rom to come from. saw that happen a few times between roms on my old DroidX and LG Ally.
yea i wipe everything at least 3 times. system, cache, dalvik, factory reset in that order 3 times in TWRP
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Hmm might be
Whats your wiping procedure? System, data, cache, dalvik multiple times before flashing? I would highly recommend dread7us' CWM enhanced recovery over TWRP
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There's a Guide somewhere on Flashing. I wonder where that is :silly:
haha...gee i wish if there was an entire sticky about it
Sense-based Rom's were always slow for me but I don't know why.
Would anyone know if this patch could be applied to our devices? The optimized Dalvik libs were ripped from the MotoX and given our hardware similiarities, I'm curious is this would improve performance for the DROID line as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
tehcodeman said:
Would anyone know if this patch could be applied to our devices? The optimized Dalvik libs were ripped from the MotoX and given our hardware similiarities, I'm curious is this would improve performance for the DROID line as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
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He says this in the Q and A:
Q: Can I use it on other devices?
A: Yes, you can use this patch on every Krait device that uses AOSP-based ROM (examples: Nexus 5, Nexus 7 2013). Don't flash it on stock ROM on non-Nexus devices, as they already include these optimizations (that includes Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play editions!).
So I am going to say no I wouldn't try it.
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He says this in the Q and A:
Q: Can I use it on other devices?
A: Yes, you can use this patch on every Krait device that uses AOSP-based ROM (examples: Nexus 5, Nexus 7 2013). Don't flash it on stock ROM on non-Nexus devices, as they already include these optimizations (that includes Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play editions!).
So I am going to say no I wouldn't try it.
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Read through the post twice and don't know how I missed that. Thanks, you probably just saved me some trouble.
i'd say as our device is already a moto x from inside, is already optimized.
I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So for now I have stayed with the standard Moto G Rom. Then tweaked it a little by doing the following.
1. Unlocked the phone
2. Rooted using TWRP (couldn't get CWM to work right)
3. Eliminated the Unlocked warning screen at start up :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548530
4. Changed the 3G data to H, H+ format :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600654
5. Installed Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvic from here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120 (thanks @drfr )
6. Installed a new Faux123 Kernel, flcon_umts-faux123-kk-005u-signed.zip from here :- http://faux.romhost.me/falcon_umts/kk44/
7. From Play store installed the xposed installer
8. From Play Store added module Gravity box (KK)
9. From Play Store added module Ringer & Notification Volume
10. Installed the Apex launcher
11. From Play Store purchased Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro (couldn't find a free tool that worked!)
Result is a very stable ROM together with most of the little tweaks that I like to get from a Custom ROM. Plus everything works great. The current Antutu result is 19860.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?
As far as I know, the stock rom has a lot of optimizations for the Moto G hardware. For instance, its based on F2FS which is something the GPE Moto G does not have going for it.
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That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.
I have this way of thinking too. So just going through the steps 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 and 10. My phone is excellent.
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That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.
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Thank you, I didn't know that, funny but I could swear that Antutu improved! I am still trying to decide if Point 6. Faux123 is really worth it. The 1.6gh/z over clocking is working and I am still getting two days of average use per charge. Can't decide either way really......
Same here, at this point, custom roms (non stock based) are non sense, since the stock is almost Aosp and updated as hell. Xposed is all you need.
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All you need is Xposed, Faux kernel and the optimized Dalvik :S
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Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?
Soerdroid said:
Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?
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1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48932223&postcount=430
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120
Great antutu result. Mostly due to the overclock. CM based roms doesnt have working overclock yet.
Im far away from that 19860 antutu score, any tips? I installed faux kernel and optimizers from qualcomm and cant get even close to 18000.
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grahamgo said:
I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?
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True. But its for now and that is because this is a brand new phone also with multiple variants like 1031/2/3
Hence creating a kind of obstruction for a successful ROM dev
Furthermore you don't just dev a ROM to get an Android update.
Its for the different features that people are looking for.
You might wanna try xposed modules.
Hell l0tta options there. Not for now but then for future.
Also then small little tweaks from other phones can be ported to this one.
There are just countless things that you can customize once you are rooted.
I had a Galaxy Ace duos CDMA which had no custom ROM.
But once I got it rooted my phone was so much better.
I had an extended internal memory with my SD card.
The bloatware that covered the small little internal memory was completely removed.
And it was so much faster and Functional with those rooted apps.
If that small little phone could do some magic with rooting.
Then this is a beast.
Half the new functionality that we get on the updates are actually the features of apps that work on rooted phones.
Wifi hotspot for an instance.
Agreed that in the current scenario its really not so useful but rooting your phone is a gift to yourself
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How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2
checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks
tsimitsangaz said:
checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks
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Look into system/vendor/lib
Sent. Really?
yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.
tsimitsangaz said:
yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.
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You do have all those files, they are not in the same folder. Just search harder.
intellq said:
How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2
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No one?
intellq said:
No one?
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Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
[ROM]Nexus G+ Build 007[4.4.2]
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Alejandrissimo said:
Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
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That rom probably won't work in my phone. I'm on an XT1033 (dual sim)
Someone with stock was able to make faux + dalvik work?
Hello,
As title says, What are the roms tweaked for ART?
I'm using this virtual machine from the first day i had my N5, but dunno how many (if there is any) roms have tweaks for it. Thank you
no such rom exists, nor are there any special ART tweaks.
OK, let me put it another way...it's a good question
Are the ROMs that don't do well with ART...or particular apps that should be avoided?
thanks,
p-d
simms22 said:
no such rom exists, nor are there any special ART tweaks.
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There is, check the rom sources and for a bunch of roms, there is some improvement for ART (AOSP), take a look on Github...
prairie-dad said:
Are the ROMs that don't do well with ART...or particular apps that should be avoided?
thanks,
p-d
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None, not really, as far as I know, well avoid CM nightlies and CM based rom for example, they broke ART in the previous nightly... but it's a "nightly" issue :laugh:, so in general fixed in the next builds...
Check the OP of each rom threads and the last pages for feedbacks, go for a stable build and you will not have ART issue.
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
There is, check the rom sources and for a bunch of roms, there is some improvement for ART (AOSP), take a look on Github...
None, not really, as far as I know, well avoid CM nightlies and CM based rom for example, they broke ART in the previous nightly... but it's a "nightly" issue :laugh:, so in general fixed in the next builds...
Check the OP of each rom threads and the last pages for feedbacks, go for a stable build and you will not have ART issue.
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also, there are the bionic patches(i forgot) that help improve performance while on art.
simms22 said:
also, there are the bionic patches(i forgot) that help improve performance while on art.
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I don't speak about patches, I speak about ART improvement from source (what you stated there is not a rom with ART improvement, false there is a bunch of AOSP roms with a bunch of commits for ART, so with some improvements for sure, or I agree, without sometimes, but there is still some new stuff). Again take a look in the sources...
The Bionic patch helps also with Dalvik runtime. Here in this thread, we are not talking about Dalvik and Bionic patches.
Liscio or Pure White Roms
Both the Liscio and the Pure White ROM have great art support, meaning whatever apps are bundled with it and whatever mods they have are tested and confirmed working with art runtime. I'm personally using Pure White ROM right now , because the ui is all White no more traces of holo. I'm using the odexed version with trinity b10 kernel, latest adreno drivers, speaker/headset booster mod, SuperSU 1.94, the camera mod 1.5 w/mic fix, and everything is working flawlessly on art ! Cold boot in 13seconds
Great on battery life too thanks to it being mostly stock ROM, with trinity kernel, -100mv on all frequencies up too 2.49ghz
Paranoid android do not support ART but it is rock solid and stable running ART is really a matter of which rom suits your needs best
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Have been using paranoid android on Art for 2 months now with no problems.
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I'm new to xda, so I couldn't ask in the dev forums... I been using Carbon rom, but they recently updated to a CM base for the rom, so w/o the CAF patch it doesn't support AOSP kernels nor ART cache. I tried their latest nightly w/ ART, it wasn't pretty; however, I did not try the caf patch, then aosp kernel, then art. In theory, should that combination get ART to work on a CM based rom? Or am I barking up the wrong tree on this one? I know it's a very specific question, but I been kinda bummed b/c I can't update the rom since I refuse to go back to dalvik, and CM don't support ART. Ever since they updated the rom (since 8/28.. they're on build 8/31 now), I been sticking with the 8/24 build! (their last AOSP based build) Any leads would be a big help. Thank you!
ART should work on a cm ROM. When they say they don't support it, they mean its a Google experimental feature so they cannot help you if you have problems with ART.
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I tried it and it did not work well. Like I said many FC's, apps didn't work, and system shutdowns. Maybe it wasn't the fact that it was CM, but more so that they just switched to CM, and so the build is unstable still? But on the Dev forum for that rom, a lot of people are saying that the newest build works great with CAF patch and an AOSP kernel. That may be so, but it also may be so that they're using dalvik not ART. What I'm trying to clear up is, will that same patch make the rom play friendly with art also?
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I tried it and it did not work well. Like I said many FC's, apps didn't work, and system shutdowns. Maybe it wasn't the fact that it was CM, but more so that they just switched to CM, and so the build is unstable still? But on the Dev forum for that rom, a lot of people are saying that the newest build works great with CAF patch and an AOSP kernel. That may be so, but it also may be so that they're using dalvik not ART. What I'm trying to clear up is, will that same patch make the rom play friendly with art also?
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you're trying to use an AOSP kernel?
what is the order that you are trying to switch to art?
maybe that's the culprit
Ofthecats said:
you're trying to use an AOSP kernel?
what is the order that you are trying to switch to art?
maybe that's the culprit
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Well the CAF thread suggests this order: Clean flash of cm rom, flash the caf patch, then flash the desired aosp kernel. As far as art goes, aosp roms boot right up w/o problems in art. I don't know if that's because those roms are built on aosp from the ground up, or if it's because of the aosp kernel. I'm wondering if the cm rom that allows aosp kernels with the patch will also allow art to run smoothly. Again, I tried the new nightly (CM based) w/o the patch/ aosp kernel on art and it was buggy as all hell. Others are saying that the build is working well w/ caf patch and aosp kernel... but that still leaves the question: is that on dalvik only? If I turn on art with those three combined will art be good to go? I'm trying to see if anyone knows if it's purely a kernel thing that makes it compatible with art, before investing a ton of time with a clean flash, reinstalling all apps, and trying them one by one only to be disappointed by bugs and having to stick with the 8/24 build anyway. (that was their last aosp build for that rom)
ART works fine, either stock, aosp, or cm based. running aosp kernels on cm or cm kernels on aosp is a no no. you are asking for a long list of issues. and running the patch on an aosp kernel with cm does not guarantee that there wont be issues.