Hey all developers and downloaders of ROMs ^^
See many new developers here now so please take him and take a look here
I got a server with unlimited bandwidth and Storage so im giving out free hosting to all developers.
The website is Romn****.info
I got a application form on that page and also you can PM me here
It supports direct link and h as very nice speed.
Contact me for more info and FTP account.
UPDATE:
If you are a XDA member and not a developer just need a good ftp account to host a website?
Contact me and i'l give you a good deal on hosting with control panel.
l1nuxfre4k said:
I got a server with unlimited bandwidth and Storage so i thought i could start hosting all custom ROMs.
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While we appreciate your gesture, your host will suspend you and you'll lose your data. This is an unfortunately fact, as you appear to believe that you have "unlimited storage" - something that quite obviously does not exist. The majority of hosts that offer this ("unlimited" plans), limit you based on the fact you cannot simply host large files to download, or will suspend you for ToS infractions of excessive CPU, either way they'll get rid of you so they don't lose money. Unfortunately, this is a well known practise called overselling, something we will all fall foul to when purchasing our first hosting package(s).
More specifically, "unlimited storage" is fair share and the more problematic to enforce. Unlimited bandwidth is easy, a full month @ 10Mbits = 3.3TB - a sensible amount. They'll just throttle the server to make sure no-one can use too much bandwidth, if they have to. Realistic servers are around $200/mo/ea and have 4-10TB of BW, even if you bought that, it isn't "unlimited".
Not to rain on your parade, or anything.
thanks benko ^^
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While we appreciate your gesture, your host will suspend you and you'll lose your data. This is an unfortunately fact, as you appear to believe that you have "unlimited storage" - something that quite obviously does not exist. The majority of hosts that offer this ("unlimited" plans), limit you based on the fact you cannot simply host large files to download, or will suspend you for ToS infractions of excessive CPU, either way they'll get rid of you so they don't lose money. Unfortunately, this is a well known practise called overselling, something we will all fall foul to when purchasing our first hosting package(s).
Not to rain on your parade, or anything.
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already tested
I used 142GB
trust me i got lots of space
my hosting company responded when asked
Other Hosts: "UNLIMITED GB!!!!"
.... to which we had no choice but to reply ....
"UNLIMITED + 50GB!!!!"
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To be quite honest... Your host is lying. There is no such thing as unlimited storage or unlimited bandwidth (Unless you're on a very expensive unmetered port).
Anyhow, i think i'v proven with the kitchen that my limit is VERY high
STILL offering this to developers
And now for members to a very good price
l1nuxfre4k said:
STILL offering this to developers
And now for members to a very good price
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Hey,
I have 2 ROMs (HCDR.ROM and PuzzleROM)
Can I take up your offer please?
Thanks,
Jacob
XDA should offer premium membership... What would this include?
Ads removed, no PM timer (can't send multiple PMs within 30 seconds, a bit annoying if you have a lot to answer and are short on time), no search timer.
I realize that these timers are to prevent spam and to prevent server overload as well, but the majority of users wouldn't end up upgrading to premium, however having these features accessible to those of us that are willing to pay for them would be great.
I think this would be great. I don't really know where to offer suggestions but I hope XDA considers this. It could also be a source of revenue to pay for servers.
Another feature idea I have could be "Live Topics" for premium users. What is Live topics? HTML5. Topics refresh themselves. Kindof like Google Instant works, but topics automatically show the next post seamlessly as soon as it's posted. This could take a huge toll on server if it were a global feature, but I think for a Premium user if Premium is made possible, it would be great for them and wouldn't hurt the server as bad.
I'm an HTML5 / PHP developer and I'd gladly program any of these features for free including PayPal instant integration for premium membership and dealing with VBulletin mods.
Maybe a monthly fee to be premium?
What do you think?
I think yearly and monthly and plus the money gained can be use to add more servers, bandwidth, and can improve the site. But all the features offered should be offered in one way or another to the average free user.
I think this would be a great thing to implement but rather than have our donations provide for extra benefits for the user beyond a specialised title indicating our donation to the community the money itself should go toward providing services for devs to use such as those provided by github etc...
I would pay for this. I am tired of the pop up ads. I hope XDA decides to do this. Then everyone will really be able to see the true xda supporters!!!
Android APP developer needed
$150 Good Faith base once project is started and then Revenue Share 50/50 Split
Already have desktop website with 10,000 Members , 100,000 Monthly Uniques to our website and 1 million page views...so a Base of Buyers is already in Place on top of Android Market
Fuel Stations locator Map (and list view) ..with Prices
User should see x amount of Stations in a select-able radius
User should either be able to Login/or register
User should then be able to Post Prices
Members can have Favorites list
odds and ends
Already have database ..and hopefully you can just reuse some coding from the websites pages
I have neither the talent , time , energy or money to do this on my own.. essentially looking for someone to develop and maintain the APP side of our Business as their "baby" and simply handle the odd and end issues that arise , basic maintenance , keeping the APP updated as Android is updated etc ...
I provide database / data / members TRAFFIC ..
So a nice 50/50 split
Anyone interested in a revenue share on a APP project like this please PM me
Thanks !
Are you allowed to post ads like this here? I take this down just a safe.
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thelowend said:
Are you allowed to post ads like this here? I take this down just a safe.
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That's kind of funny lowend.. I am offering to pay for a service and your not sure if that's allowed.. but it is allowed to ask fro free work on xda..(handful of developers and a whole bunch of us looking for /demanding the next free release of xyz ..me included)
I know what you mean though I didn't see a "marketplace" or" Developers for Hire"..so posted here and let the Moderators sort it out.. what ever they need to do is fine..
There is a job listing in the marketplace might want to try there
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I just need to vent. I'm a fairly active developer for the android platform. I've created a number of kernel patches and applications that I have released at no charge to the community for about 10 or so devices.
All this I do in my "spare time", which I have very little of because I am a full time professional student who takes on 32 credit hour semesters.
Recently, since my 1994 geo prizm is literally falling apart and I was hoping to scrounge together a little bit of money to get a new car so I don't end up stranded on my way to class, I decided to release a paid application. Fastcharge / Force AC toggle which allows you to toggle on and off the force AC feature. A feature which I have personally implemented and released source patches for on a number of devices.
Not only in every thread where I released the patch on a device did I write up how to toggle the feature through the command line, but I also stated that I also implemented a toggle into my completely free application that you can also download from the market, IncrediControl.
In good faith and knowing how annoying licensing is, I elected to not include licensing in my application. This is a huge regret.
Within a couple days of releasing the application to the market I googled it to see if anyone was talking about it. One of the first links was to a piracy site where a user was requesting the widget, to which another user obliged and posted the apk to a filesharing site. Doing something I never though I would have to do, I filed a DMCA takedown request, which was answered quickly and the app was taken down. Monitoring the thread, every single time a link gets taken down, another user requests the app and the original user reuploads it, most recently to 11 different sites.
So now, after filing dozens of takedown requests. This user has decided to unzip my apk, change out the artwork, and now is going around releasing it as his own work.
Really, all this to avoid paying $1.50 (only ~$1 of it actually going to me) to an individual whose yearly income is low enough that he doesn't have to file taxes?
This disgusts me.
This is even worse than the 50% "order cancellation rate" that the widget has. I'm not stupid, I know exactly what users are doing, but yet initially I was willing to ignore it. But this has gone too far.
What is even the point of pissing off a developer so much that he is considering saying screw the platform all together? It doesn't even make sense. We, the developers improve your devices, generally at little or no cost, and this is how we're repaid. With ~50% of current users of the application having pirated it. To avoid paying just over $1.
Now before someone even counters with the "my area doesn't support paid applications" argument I've actually gladly GIVEN the widget away to a number of users who casually mentioned in the release threads that they couldn't download it for this reason. Not to mention, everyone knows there are apps that unlock the market in these areas to be able to purchase apps.
How much more generous can a developer be than to provide source code patches for a feature, provide information on how to toggle the feature, provide a COMPLETELY FREE way to toggle the feature, and then charge a measly $1.50 for a secondary, slightly more convenient way to toggle.
Yet he's repaid like this .
Of course, this must suck for a developer like you. Unfortunately, it seems to happen more and more often, and all I can really say is:
I would gladly pay a few bucks for an application like IC or BootManager. That BootManager seemed really interesting, but we can't buy apps from the Play Store without CC (and as a 16-year old, I don't have one). I asked the developer if he accepted Paypal, but he didn't.
Don't get me wrong, and this is not an attack to you personally: developers, if you made something really nice, and people will like it, 70% of the people will gladly pay for it, just make sure you allow them to.
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70% of the people will gladly pay for it, just make sure you allow them to.
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I honestly thought this was the case. It's really not. The problem is much worse than that. If 70% of users in the root community paid for apps it would be astonishing. Its made pretty clear by the number of users who download the app, back it up and then cancel the order.
If a 16 year old kid had made me that offer, the e-mail reply I sent would have the apk attached.
Well, that is a real flaw of Android: tweakability is really impressing, but these things make it really difficult to earn some money as a developer.
We have been thinking about anti-piracy measures as well, with stuff such as authentication with a server, and locking down the code and verifying integrity of APKs and stuff to make sure it's really hard to mess with the code, but it's just sad that there's a need for these measures..
The trouble is everything has piracy right from movies to game consoles through to mobiles and music.
I mean the iPhones appstore would be a hell of a lot bigger if there was no jailbreaking and installous.
Every platform has been cracked so you'll get it regardless of what you develop for.
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I think you know you just needed to vent but can I change your picture.
There are some people in this world who just don't buy the idea of an idea as property. That's not compatible with this business model. That's the first problem.
The next problem is that
there's a million and one apps out there and which one are we going to choose? Where does it start, where does it end? We all have our limits. What's yours?
For me, the app has to be something very unique and possible generate me cash. For example something I use every day at work. If it's something that the phone should do anyway I tend to skip it and save the $1 for the next phone that does it out of the box. Your app is a great thing, but there's many utility apps out there. It just doesn't fall into the kind of thing I'd cave my strict budgeting for. There are people here with a 1000 apps installed and you expect them to pay $1000 in this sense.
Another way would be having utility in the cloud and then the app is free. Another one of course, advertising.
The difference with both of these is we don't need to risk a credit card with the market. That's the main reason I personally haven't bought many apps and I'd imagine it's a problem for minors too.
The very community that allowed us to create the app fails to pay for it's products is like life itself.
I'd say make something for the iphone instead because there's more profit there but that would never have been possible, see what I'm saying? That's the 3rd problem.
So you've got 3 problems there all converging into one big push towards piracy. But remember, can your app assure security that the pirated version cannot for example? This is how one has to think.
In short,
you can't do something and hope to make a bit from it on the side. You got to go out from the start and get the money aspect central from the start. I mean, that's business and of course that's exactly what the android community works hard to free us from.
Still, summarising those 3 points for suggestion:
- offer something free things can't (i.e. security, brand etc) For example, I never run pirated stuff for fear of insecurity on my data whereas I'll try out software that way on an old PC
- can always put a service in the cloud aka the javascript trap
- iphone is there if you want...
- needs to "the one app" a certain person would pay for, not something everyone likes
Also just to make that point again, if one does not believe in property then inconveniently there is no moral crime here. I suggest learn to live with this and go with the flow
I hope google sells PlayStore cards (like itunes cards) that allows user to buy apps, music, movies, books without a credit card. I really want to buy some amazing apps but i dont have a credit card so i just use free apps. I think that if u cant buy an app that cant be a reason to piracy or sidedownload that app.
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For me, the app has to be something very unique and possible generate me cash. For example something I use every day at work. If it's something that the phone should do anyway I tend to skip it and save the $1 for the next phone that does it out of the box. Your app is a great thing, but there's many utility apps out there. It just doesn't fall into the kind of thing I'd cave my strict budgeting for. There are people here with a 1000 apps installed and you expect them to pay $1000 in this sense.
Another way would be having utility in the cloud and then the app is free. Another one of course, advertising.
The difference with both of these is we don't need to risk a credit card with the market. That's the main reason I personally haven't bought many apps and I'd imagine it's a problem for minors too.
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The feature is 100% unique and so is the widget. Not to mention, if you didn't want to pay the $1, I provided a free way to toggle the feature in the utility app. The point is, that there is nothing forcing people to pay for the widget to use the feature. But instead of using the free option provided, they not only pirate the paid app, but edit the artwork and release it for free as their own. It defies logic.
Also, ad based apps don't work with the rooted community. I learned that early on. Myfree utility app is ad supported. With over 40,000 installs you would think it would make even a dollar a day. Nope, makes nearly nothing. That's when I realized that the same niche I was marketing to are the same people who block ads. Even if someone didn't want to block ads, they can't install a single ROM that doesn't include an ad blocking hosts file out of the box.
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[...] How much more generous can a developer be than to provide source code patches for a feature, provide information on how to toggle the feature, provide a COMPLETELY FREE way to toggle the feature, and then charge a measly $1.50 for a secondary, slightly more convenient way to toggle.
Yet he's repaid like this .
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Be sure you're looking at all sides. Yes, you're in a losing war with guys intent on pirating your app. You can't stop them, and well, you goofed on the licensing, so someone will no doubt release the clone.
First of all, don't do the Big Media thing and assume that everybody that pirates your app would have paid for it if it hadn't been available. A lot of folks collect, or just try something once. You'll only work yourself into a funk thinking about all that money you "would" have if only they hadn't been able to pirate it. They wouldn't have. At least not all of them.
More importantly, be aware that placing something out there with value does reach folks that otherwise would have no idea of you or your plight. More than once, I've purchased an app that I don't really need, but found clever and cheap enough I can buy it without thinking about the investment. I've spent more on Android software at $1-15 over the last year than I did over the last 25+ at $30-100 a pop. I've only refunded an app once, by accident.
Finally, be up front about your situation. A guy trying to make do does influence my impulse buying. So does his reputation. If you're doing a lot, be sure that's clear on your app page, and let us know clearly you're the guy that also brought us whatever.
I am curious, though: How much did you actually bring in?
Chad- thanks for telling your story, I agree that you have every right to be disappointed. Especially the buying and refunding, that to me send almost worse because you can't stop dedicated pirating, but I would have hoped the rest would have bought the app.
It's easy to forget the human side of development, so thanks for sharing your side.
Jesus christ Chad. This is f$%&*#@ ridiculous. Probably the best and most generous kernel dev I have ever come into contact with, and people are cheating you out of 1.50. Please don't abandon Android. I need kernels when I get my rezound! but in all seriousness, warez needs to stop.
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Yep. Sucks. After getting serious about android , which wasn't too far in, joining with a nexus one and seeing all the free HARD work we get, I definitely try buying stuff I use. If I can't pay sometimes I will see if dev does something else I can donate to. Its an issue I've thought about and part of it really boils down to how sorry people are in general. They want free and cheap. $1 is laughable even when it can be easily had for free. You really should market yourself a bit even though you don't want to. And people should really put a complimentary $5 or so budget a month or more and try to support devs. Maybe if you have something he gave free but has an app you won't use for a buck, buy the dollar app and uninstall after the 15 minute period. Or throw him a 5 through PayPal or something. Its simple really. If these devs don't have to resort to ramen and water they keep dev'ing especially for the community supporting him or her. And if they're eating vegetables and have plenty of red bull money it gives them wings. Otoh, the devs that make us pay to reinstall an app after we bought it on another or lost our phone suck. Balls. Won't buys theirs anymore.
teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
Maybe you should implement a system like some developers do where you download the app for free with a time limited trail, then they would go to another website to pay for the app to unlock it, and the unlock codes would be unique for every user which would minimize piracy.
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rafa6571 said:
I hope google sells PlayStore cards (like itunes cards) that allows user to buy apps, music, movies, books without a credit card. I really want to buy some amazing apps but i dont have a credit card so i just use free apps. I think that if u cant buy an app that cant be a reason to piracy or sidedownload that app.
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In the Netherlands we have prepaid Visa card.
Works well.
Maybe you google something similar in your own country.
(3V prepaid Visa cards)
That does suck but if someone wants to pirate an app even licencing doesn't stop them as there is an app that apparently patches licence checks.
It is so easy for even a non root and new user to find cracked apps, I have seen links on here and even on peoples facebook sites, it's got to the point where people can just browse a webpage and click a link to get the cracked version of an app.
Unfortunately if someone wants to crack it they can. Unless you could implement your own security check somehow, something obfuscated in the code, licencing is the only alternative as it would stop people using backed up cancelled versions at least.
Unfortunately it seems a lot of people just don't want to pay for apps.
Dave
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also have to look at both sides. some people just refuse to pay for **** whatever it is, or get it as cheaply as they can. being android apps, the free route is how they're going to go. but the other side, you hsould be grateful for all the people that do pay. they're the ones helping keeping google, open source, android and everything in between chugging along. open source is the future and you can tell every corporation i said that. and thanks for you your work even though i've never used it.
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Also just to make that point again, if one does not believe in property then inconveniently there is no moral crime here. I suggest learn to live with this and go with the flow
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There is plenty to disagree with in your post as it all seems like an attempt at rationalizing ways to get around the system. This last statement is a ridiculous attempt at summarizing why stealing is OK. Your morals don't define the crime, the law does. Stealing property, physical or intellectual, is not legal and not right regardless of your morals or lack of.
Chad,
I am sorry to hear of your products' abuse. I used your kernels all the time on my Incredible devices and bought IncrediControl to support development. I have purchased many applications just to support development and believe that is the way to get high quality applications.
Piracy is just so damn easy on Android. I know ppl that are doing it who I wouldn't even expect to be doing such a thing. This guy I know love android only because he can get everything free by just googling the apk.
awww thats sad i feel really bad for you!
I've used pre paid visa debit cards to buy apps. You can find them in Any money shop like Cheque cashing places for example. You can even just stick a dicky diver (£5) on them. Perfect for situations like this
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Hello,
I was just wondering, not sure if it's been answered before, but it seems strange that rom developers put their roms on websites with agonisingly slow download speeds, when a peer to peer solution (such as torrents) could allow the community to seed and provide super fast download speeds? Especially since most android-based file hosts (cough) have no download servers in a lot of regions.
Question of legality is irrelevant since uploading to an external website is just as legal/illegal depending on what you want to call it, as it's still sharing the file..
Can anyone provide an explanation as to why this practice is not widespread? It would be beneficial to be able to download big 700mb roms at 5MB/s instead of 300KB/s.. Of course if a rom is not well-seeded, an alternative non-torrent download could be provided along side it.
Thoughts?
Doesn't seem like a good idea. Overtime people would stop seeding the torrent. There are a lot of high speed sharing websites such as Google Drive, Dropbox, MediaFire etc.
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Doesn't seem like a good idea. Overtime people would stop seeding the torrent. There are a lot of high speed sharing websites such as Google Drive, Dropbox, MediaFire etc.
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While that is true for very old ROMs, I think there are plenty of very popular roms that could seriously benefit a lot from hosting it as a torrent. I think some already do it but I guess people are concerned about lack of seeders.
It would be good if devs used those services, but sadly things like Google Drive detect a lot of downloads of a file and make it temporarily unavailable (due to piracy concerns, I guess). Devs end up using special "file hosts" for android roms and whatnot, and they are honestly terribly slow, and some even offer "turbo speeds" for a price, no good in my book.
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While that is true for very old ROMs, I think there are plenty of very popular roms that could seriously benefit a lot from hosting it as a torrent. I think some already do it but I guess people are concerned about lack of seeders.
It would be good if devs used those services, but sadly things like Google Drive detect a lot of downloads of a file and make it temporarily unavailable (due to piracy concerns, I guess). Devs end up using special "file hosts" for android roms and whatnot, and they are honestly terribly slow, and some even offer "turbo speeds" for a price, no good in my book.
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I don't know really. They mostly use Drive and AndroidDevHost for roms which is fine for me since the max download for me is 450KBps anyways.