Ok so I am thinking about rooting my Nexus 5 right now and I will install xposed framework after I root. I have not gotten the 4.4.1 update yet for my Nexus 5 so if I root right now, will I still get the update over the air. I am not installing a custom ROM. I just want to install xposed framework and that is all. So will I still get OTA updates from Google if I do that.
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Well for starters your phone will be wiped clean when you unlock the bootloader. So if u decide to root, backup what you want to save. Second, as long as you keep stock recovery, stock kernel etc... You should be able to take the ota update. Although after taking it you'll need to reroot. It may be easier just to root, and flash the stock rooted rom
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maybe the warranty? but I think that you can restore it by re-locking the phone
maxell505 said:
Ok so I am thinking about rooting my Nexus 5 right now and I will install xposed framework after I root. I have not gotten the 4.4.1 update yet for my Nexus 5 so if I root right now, will I still get the update over the air. I am not installing a custom ROM. I just want to install xposed framework and that is all. So will I still get OTA updates from Google if I do that.
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You will lose all the data on your phone. As soon as you unlock the bootloader the phone wipes all the data.
You can't modify anything in system and get updates (well you'll get them, they just wont install). You will have to go back to stock before you can install updates from google.
CRIME INC. said:
Well for starters your phone will be wiped clean when you unlock the bootloader. So if u decide to root, backup what you want to save. Second, as long as you keep stock recovery, stock kernel etc... You should be able to take the ota update. Although after taking it you'll need to reroot. It may be easier just to root, and flash the stock rooted rom
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Are stock rooted ROMS easily available for the Nexus 5? Also lets say I root and install xposed framework right now. Later on I want the 4.4.1 stock rom on my phone. When I flash the 4.4.1 stock ROM on my phone, will I still have xposed framework?
Yes they're pretty much the first ROMs available after an update is released. And no,you'll have to reinstall xposed framework. But its easy to do
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Hi, first post on xda. Lurked for over two years and well, you gotta start somewhere
I'm on rooted stock 4.4.2 ROM with unlocked bootloader.
The OTA is constantly reminding me to update to 4.4.4. I'd like to, but I need to know if I can safely re-root after upgrading and wether anything that uses root right now will break or if they'll just continue working after a sucessful re-root. I'm thinking about Busybox, xPosed framework with GravityBox and MotoGuide.
Help me?
gnayug said:
Hi, first post on xda. Lurked for over two years and well, you gotta start somewhere
I'm on rooted stock 4.4.2 ROM with unlocked bootloader.
The OTA is constantly reminding me to update to 4.4.4. I'd like to, but I need to know if I can safely re-root after upgrading and wether anything that uses root right now will break or if they'll just continue working after a sucessful re-root. I'm thinking about Busybox, xPosed framework with GravityBox and MotoGuide.
Help me?
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After the update you will be able to root again. If you flash Phil's recovery it will ask you to root the device for you.
I would recommend to uninstall xposed and its modules, unroot the device and flash stock recovery before installing the update. You'll need to reinstall your root apps after. Others have had success installing updates using CWM or TWRP but it didn't work for me so.
Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
levy9 said:
Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
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Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
Cholerabob said:
Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
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Yeah this is all true
Download the SuperSU zip to your phone and be ready to flash it after the ota installs
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So I have an xperia update alert. Is there a way to update to the latest and retain my files as well as root access?
No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
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No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
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I'm not on KK, Im on lollipop but I believe there's a newer version to LP for the Z3. I'm on 23.1.A.0.690
What size is it? Maybe it's not a firmware update.
It's an Xperia system update I can't pull up details about it without beginning the install process
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
Richy99 said:
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
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Thanks, I've been a little out of the game when it comes to flashing and rooting. I rooted my phone about a week ago and put lollipop on it. I assumed it would be the case that i'd have to flash the updated version I just wondered about retaining my files because i've gone through a bit of trouble debloating and tweaking the phone.
you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
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you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
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I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
xdayala said:
I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
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There are loads of tools for this, probably the most well known in titanium backup
I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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Droidriven said:
If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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I'm not sure about that. Flashing something that upgrades or downgrades bootloader usually wipes data.
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Hey everyone,
I have a Nexus 5 that I haven't updated in a long time that I'd like to get the latest possible OS for. The only modifications I've made which I think might be important are:
Unlocked bootloader
Rooted using SuperSU (v2.8.2 currently)
Installed XPosed (installer v2.6.1, not sure what version of the framework but it should be the latest supported by 4.4.4) with a few modules
Installed App Ops and removed permissions from some apps
Installed StickMount
I don't believe I have any custom recovery installed (I'd used a script to root and install XPosed originally and I don't know if it made any other changes). I'm comfortable using adb if needed but I'm cool with tools like FlashFire too.
My end goal is to have an updated OS with root and XPosed. I assume I'll need Magisk for XPosed, but not sure about root.
How should I go about doing this? I'm cool with losing all of my data (I'll be making backups with Titanium Backup) though knowing ahead of time if that'll be the case would be nice. If it's possible to update without losing data and without affecting anything that'd be nice, but maybe a clean start would be good? The OTA guide on this forum is only for 5, not 6, and most online guides start with 5. I don't want to mess up obviously. xD
Any advice/steps would be appreciated! Thanks!
Aecyl said:
Hey everyone,
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You need TWRP. Then to install it. https://forum.xda-developers.com/go...om-android-m-preview-2-flashable-zip-t3157299
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You need TWRP. Then to install it. https://forum.xda-developers.com/go...om-android-m-preview-2-flashable-zip-t3157299
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The link you gave doesn't have the latest 6.0.1 build and it also says that it requires a minimum bootloader (HHZ12h) that I don't have (I have HHZ11k). Would it be possible to use the latest build from Google? What do I do about the bootloader? And would using TWRP as the recovery prevent me from passing SafetyNet?
Thanks for replying!
Could I follow this guide with the latest factory image and then install Magisk, root, and XPosed? https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...actory-images-android-using-fastboot-0175277/
If you're on stock, update using the built in updates. That'll get you all the latest firmware. I'm pretty sure the N5 goes up to 5.0 normally.
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If you're on stock, update using the built in updates. That'll get you all the latest firmware. I'm pretty sure the N5 goes up to 5.0 normally.
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Would I have to do anything to XPosed or supersu first? I'd like to update to 6.0.1, too. I've seen online that there are OTA updates for it too.
Nope. But you may have to reinstall root, which is very easy once you're updated. Just let the updates do their thing, and you'll be on your merry way! Hope I helped
I think what I'll do is flash stock 4.4.4 keeping user data and then use the OTAs to update to 6. That way I have a clean system install to use Magisk with without losing any user data. (If that doesn't work I'll just flash 6.0.1 for a clean install.)