I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
5aq1b said:
I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
5aq1b said:
Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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Droidriven said:
As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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5aq1b said:
Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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I'm not sure about that. Flashing something that upgrades or downgrades bootloader usually wipes data.
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If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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Yes!
SWTR said:
Yes!
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Indeed.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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The OTA will download but not install. You need stock recovery AND any system file that is updated by the OTA needs to be stock as well otherwise OTA install will fail.
Plenty of threads on XDA speak of this.
If you look at the OTA updater file you will see if uses MD5 (or similar) to check each system file it updates to make sure its as it was originally.
When you root it alters some system files.
Best thing is to install custom recovery and take a backup before rooted. Then root. When you get an OTA just restore backup and flash stock recovery. Then OTA will re-download. Let it install, then flash custom recovery and re-root.
Thanks, well I'll just stay unrooted and make the best out of it, the Moto G is just as amazing as Motorola developed it to be.
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
denzel09 said:
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
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Do you mean you downloaded OTA and flashed manually via recovery. You can do that I agree, but what you can't do is let OTA install naturally the way Motorola intended.
No. I had Philz recovery. System stock partition. Downloaded ota normally, reboot like ota update ask, phone reboots in philz recovery and this last flash ota automatically without any problem. There is not need to reflash stock recovery or flash ota update manually with custom rec, only need a non root stock system partition. I dont know if stock cwm or other rec like twrp work in same way but i doubt, always used only philz recovery.
You do not need stock recovery, I don't know who made this stupid rumour up. I use twrp and it flashes fine.
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I have a rooted nexus 5 running android 4.4.4, you would probably ask what OTA update do I want, and I mean when android L is released OTA, I recently knew that you can't get OTA updates if you root your device so I'm asking if I fully unroot with SuperSU will I get the OTA update?
Depends on what you do after root. If you modify system files, then you won't receive OTA. BTW why worry about OTA after root. You can flash factory images directly or there is a seperate OTA thread where you can simply flash them even on stock recovery.
Or flash rooted stock rom via recovery.
OTA is the silliest way of doing it.
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Or flash rooted stock rom via recovery.
OTA is the silliest way of doing it.
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ive never understood people's requirement of a OTA if they root....
Zepius said:
ive never understood people's requirement of a OTA if they root....
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You'd think rooted users would know better
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rootSU said:
You'd think rooted users would know better
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Not when they use toolkits :silly:
Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
levy9 said:
Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
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Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
Cholerabob said:
Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
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Yeah this is all true
Download the SuperSU zip to your phone and be ready to flash it after the ota installs
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I'm pretty confused about the way CF auto root works. some say it breaks OTAs some say it doesn't affect the recovery so it won't break OTAs. can anyone here please explain me if I'll still get OTAs after rooting my all stock 5.0 Nexus 5 by Chainfire's Auto Root method? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
naman4797 said:
I'm pretty confused about the way CF auto root works. some say it breaks OTAs some say it doesn't affect the recovery so it won't break OTAs. can anyone here please explain me if I'll still get OTAs after rooting my all stock 5.0 Nexus 5 by Chainfire's Auto Root method? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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No you won't get OTA.
In 4.4, if you had root and stock recovery, you could still get OTA. In 5.0, root makes changes that prevent OTA. on 5.0, ANY changes prevent OTA
oh god no this is bad for me
I really wanted to use this WiFi kill app on my Nexus and now I have to wait for 5.0.1 and then root
naman4797 said:
oh god no this is bad for me
I really wanted to use this WiFi kill app on my Nexus and now I have to wait for 5.0.1 and then root
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Don't worry about it, WiFI kill doesn't work on 5.0 anyway
rootSU said:
No you won't get OTA.
In 4.4, if you had root and stock recovery, you could still get OTA. In 5.0, root makes changes that prevent OTA. on 5.0, ANY changes prevent OTA
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I'm planning on rooting my 5.0
What if when 5.0.1 rolls out, and I want to update OTA?
How do I unroot my N5 rooted via Chainfire's method?
naman4797 said:
I'm planning on rooting my 5.0
What if when 5.0.1 rolls out, and I want to update OTA?
How do I unroot my N5 rooted via Chainfire's method?
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Just use the full unroot option in settings in supersu app
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jd1639 said:
Just use the full unroot option in settings in supersu app
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Hi! I rooted using CF Autoroot. I downloaded the 5.0.1 OTA
I unrooted as you said
But the installation of the downloaded OTA update shows error and I'm stuck on 5.0
Solutions?
I don't wanna perform a full wipe !
naman4797 said:
Hi! I rooted using CF Autoroot. I downloaded the 5.0.1 OTA
I unrooted as you said
But the installation of the downloaded OTA update shows error and I'm stuck on 5.0
Solutions?
I don't wanna perform a full wipe !
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We need to know the error to offer any help
naman4797 said:
Hi! I rooted using CF Autoroot. I downloaded the 5.0.1 OTA
I unrooted as you said
But the installation of the downloaded OTA update shows error and I'm stuck on 5.0
Solutions?
I don't wanna perform a full wipe !
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You need to be full, 100% stock.
I too was rooted with CF and stock recovery.
To be able to sideload the OTA I had to:
1) download and extract the 5.0 factory image
2) fastboot flash boot boot.img
3) fastboot flash system system.img
4) adb sideload The5_0_1OTA.zip
The CF root process modifies one or both of boot and/or system. The 5.0.1 OTA will not apply with these modified.
The above process will not lose data.
cgendreau said:
I too was rooted with CF and stock recovery.
To be able to sideload the OTA I had to:
1) download and extract the 5.0 factory image
2) fastboot flash boot boot.img
3) fastboot flash system system.img
4) adb sideload The5_0_1OTA.zip
The CF root process modifies one or both of boot and/or system. The 5.0.1 OTA will not apply with these modified.
The above process will not lose data.
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By downloading the 5.0.1 factory image in step 1, you could have skipped step 4 :/
rootSU said:
By downloading the 5.0.1 factory image in step 1, you could have skipped step 4 :/
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Everyone is ota happy. The radio changed so he'd have to flash that too
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I was wondering, I have rooted my phone using Chainfire's CF-Autoroot.
Normally this will disable OTA updates, I'm aware of that.
But is there some way to manually flash the monthly security updates that Samsung releases each month ?
(or at least they say they are going to release them each month).
Is there a source somewhere where we can download them and flash then using Odin or TWRP ?
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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Are you sure ? Because when I check manually for updates, I get the message stating that my phone has changed (root) and so updates cannot be downloaded and installed. It says that I need to try to download it via a PC tool from Samsung.
vipercoyote said:
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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There is for the International version.
vipercoyote said:
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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There very well is for the Exynos version/type and the reason I'm tempted to get it after prices have dropped a bit :
Check it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770
Ok guys, now that we have established that root is available and working for the European version (which I have)...
Anyone know if the monthly patches from Samsung/Google will be available for download somewhere, so we can flash it manually and still be up-to-date ?
I would like to know this as well. I would guess they could be flashed with Odin?
I would like to know this. I am on the W8 variant rooted with autoroot and wondering how will I go about updating to new patches.
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you should flash your firmware via Odin to unroot, apply OTA, root again with auto root.
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you should flash your firmware via Odin to unroot, apply OTA, root again with auto root.
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Yes, I am aware of this possibility.
I was just hoping in applying the monthly patch without full flash (which completely wipes the phone).
Indeed, flashing will reset the phone...I found that the hard way last night.
There is a topic on S7edge forum about Chainfire's FlashFire app. It claims that can flash without resetting the phone.
Did not try it but I will follow the discussions there. Would be perfect to flash a new f/w and not have the phone reset. ( like good old times
Maybe it is possible to prevent the userdata and internal storage to be wiped by flashing the official firmware ?
Anyone has succeeded to do so ?
I managed to download the complete new firmware G935FXXU1APD3 from Sammobile and flashed it with ODIN with the phone in download mode.
It did not overwrite any of my personal data or apps and the phone worked as before however you will need to root again afterwards, but that doesn't take long anyway.
The only other thing I had to do was copy the mixer_paths and mixer_gain files to the SD card then replace them as the new firmware overrides the volume hack if you have it in place.
Keith
I guess that's what Chainfire trying to achieve with Flashfire. To be able to directly flash the Updates without having to manually backup/restore anything. Let's see how this goes. As of today you could flash the full oding images within flashfire.
Will definitely try when the next update for my phone variant comes.
I did take a TWRP backup just in case but was pleasantly surprised when the phone booted back to where it was.
I can confirm that the Flashfire method can be used for updates. Grab the update package, flash it through flashfire, and even select the "ever root" option to maintain root. Works great!
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I can confirm that the Flashfire method can be used for updates. Grab the update package, flash it through flashfire, and even select the "ever root" option to maintain root. Works great!
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How did you get the update package? When trying to search for an update on the phone it says I modified it.
Or did you load an full stock rom?
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How did you get the update package? When trying to search for an update on the phone it says I modified it.
Or did you load an full stock rom?
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Grabbed a full stock rom, extracted the modem and system packages, and flashed them specifically through flashfire. A link to the full stock rom was posted on the Canadian S7 thread in the discussion forum.