I have a rooted nexus 5 running android 4.4.4, you would probably ask what OTA update do I want, and I mean when android L is released OTA, I recently knew that you can't get OTA updates if you root your device so I'm asking if I fully unroot with SuperSU will I get the OTA update?
Depends on what you do after root. If you modify system files, then you won't receive OTA. BTW why worry about OTA after root. You can flash factory images directly or there is a seperate OTA thread where you can simply flash them even on stock recovery.
Or flash rooted stock rom via recovery.
OTA is the silliest way of doing it.
rootSU said:
Or flash rooted stock rom via recovery.
OTA is the silliest way of doing it.
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ive never understood people's requirement of a OTA if they root....
Zepius said:
ive never understood people's requirement of a OTA if they root....
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You'd think rooted users would know better
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rootSU said:
You'd think rooted users would know better
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Not when they use toolkits :silly:
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If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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Yes!
SWTR said:
Yes!
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Indeed.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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The OTA will download but not install. You need stock recovery AND any system file that is updated by the OTA needs to be stock as well otherwise OTA install will fail.
Plenty of threads on XDA speak of this.
If you look at the OTA updater file you will see if uses MD5 (or similar) to check each system file it updates to make sure its as it was originally.
When you root it alters some system files.
Best thing is to install custom recovery and take a backup before rooted. Then root. When you get an OTA just restore backup and flash stock recovery. Then OTA will re-download. Let it install, then flash custom recovery and re-root.
Thanks, well I'll just stay unrooted and make the best out of it, the Moto G is just as amazing as Motorola developed it to be.
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
denzel09 said:
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
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Do you mean you downloaded OTA and flashed manually via recovery. You can do that I agree, but what you can't do is let OTA install naturally the way Motorola intended.
No. I had Philz recovery. System stock partition. Downloaded ota normally, reboot like ota update ask, phone reboots in philz recovery and this last flash ota automatically without any problem. There is not need to reflash stock recovery or flash ota update manually with custom rec, only need a non root stock system partition. I dont know if stock cwm or other rec like twrp work in same way but i doubt, always used only philz recovery.
You do not need stock recovery, I don't know who made this stupid rumour up. I use twrp and it flashes fine.
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I've read through several root threads (mos by jcase I think) but want to confirm as of today which is best to root an unlocked dev ed maxx that is currently on 4.2.2?
Really appreciate any help -- thanks!
EDIT: My goal is to be rooted on 4.4 / 19.6.3
Since you're unlocked you can root in custom recovery. See second part of this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645122
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Since you're unlocked you can root in custom recovery. See second part of this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645122
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Thanks for the quick reply -- sorry, I forgot to mention that my goal is to be rooted in 4.4.
Do I upgrade to 4.4 first and then root? Or root in 4.2.2 then upgrade to 4.4?
Links appreciated but I'll take any help you can spare...
Thanks!
I'd upgrade first. You can root 4.4 and future updates in twrp. That's the beauty of being unlocked (on this device at least) not having to wait for root exploits.
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I'd upgrade first. You can root 4.4 and future updates in twrp. That's the beauty of being unlocked (on this device at least) not having to wait for root exploits.
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Okay one more question please -- took the update and rooted with TWRP everything worked great EXCEPT I just realized it didn't update to 4.4, it just updated to a higher 4.2.2.
Now the update for 4.4. is downloading OTA.
Can I install this OTA, having installed TWRP and rooted? Or will that brick my phone?
I feel like you need to be 100% stock to take OTA's, no?
If so, how do I get back stock?
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Okay one more question please -- took the update and rooted with TWRP everything worked great EXCEPT I just realized it didn't update to 4.4, it just updated to a higher 4.2.2.
Now the update for 4.4. is downloading OTA.
Can I install this OTA, having installed TWRP and rooted? Or will that brick my phone?
I feel like you need to be 100% stock to take OTA's, no?
If so, how do I get back stock?
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You'll need to flash the stock recovery back to get the ota to install. Once you're on 4.4 there's yet another 4.4 update/patch that came out a few weeks ago. Might as well Install that too before flashing twrp again.
Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
levy9 said:
Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
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Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
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Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
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Yeah this is all true
Download the SuperSU zip to your phone and be ready to flash it after the ota installs
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I'm pretty confused about the way CF auto root works. some say it breaks OTAs some say it doesn't affect the recovery so it won't break OTAs. can anyone here please explain me if I'll still get OTAs after rooting my all stock 5.0 Nexus 5 by Chainfire's Auto Root method? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm pretty confused about the way CF auto root works. some say it breaks OTAs some say it doesn't affect the recovery so it won't break OTAs. can anyone here please explain me if I'll still get OTAs after rooting my all stock 5.0 Nexus 5 by Chainfire's Auto Root method? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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No you won't get OTA.
In 4.4, if you had root and stock recovery, you could still get OTA. In 5.0, root makes changes that prevent OTA. on 5.0, ANY changes prevent OTA
oh god no this is bad for me
I really wanted to use this WiFi kill app on my Nexus and now I have to wait for 5.0.1 and then root
naman4797 said:
oh god no this is bad for me
I really wanted to use this WiFi kill app on my Nexus and now I have to wait for 5.0.1 and then root
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Don't worry about it, WiFI kill doesn't work on 5.0 anyway
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No you won't get OTA.
In 4.4, if you had root and stock recovery, you could still get OTA. In 5.0, root makes changes that prevent OTA. on 5.0, ANY changes prevent OTA
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I'm planning on rooting my 5.0
What if when 5.0.1 rolls out, and I want to update OTA?
How do I unroot my N5 rooted via Chainfire's method?
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I'm planning on rooting my 5.0
What if when 5.0.1 rolls out, and I want to update OTA?
How do I unroot my N5 rooted via Chainfire's method?
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Just use the full unroot option in settings in supersu app
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Just use the full unroot option in settings in supersu app
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Hi! I rooted using CF Autoroot. I downloaded the 5.0.1 OTA
I unrooted as you said
But the installation of the downloaded OTA update shows error and I'm stuck on 5.0
Solutions?
I don't wanna perform a full wipe !
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Hi! I rooted using CF Autoroot. I downloaded the 5.0.1 OTA
I unrooted as you said
But the installation of the downloaded OTA update shows error and I'm stuck on 5.0
Solutions?
I don't wanna perform a full wipe !
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We need to know the error to offer any help
naman4797 said:
Hi! I rooted using CF Autoroot. I downloaded the 5.0.1 OTA
I unrooted as you said
But the installation of the downloaded OTA update shows error and I'm stuck on 5.0
Solutions?
I don't wanna perform a full wipe !
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You need to be full, 100% stock.
I too was rooted with CF and stock recovery.
To be able to sideload the OTA I had to:
1) download and extract the 5.0 factory image
2) fastboot flash boot boot.img
3) fastboot flash system system.img
4) adb sideload The5_0_1OTA.zip
The CF root process modifies one or both of boot and/or system. The 5.0.1 OTA will not apply with these modified.
The above process will not lose data.
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I too was rooted with CF and stock recovery.
To be able to sideload the OTA I had to:
1) download and extract the 5.0 factory image
2) fastboot flash boot boot.img
3) fastboot flash system system.img
4) adb sideload The5_0_1OTA.zip
The CF root process modifies one or both of boot and/or system. The 5.0.1 OTA will not apply with these modified.
The above process will not lose data.
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By downloading the 5.0.1 factory image in step 1, you could have skipped step 4 :/
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By downloading the 5.0.1 factory image in step 1, you could have skipped step 4 :/
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Everyone is ota happy. The radio changed so he'd have to flash that too
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I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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I'm not sure about that. Flashing something that upgrades or downgrades bootloader usually wipes data.
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