Custom bootloaders? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm just curious as to if there are any custom bootloaders on the Nexus 5, or do we not even need them? I came from the Evo 3D, where there were PLENTY of bootloaders and bootloader versions. They all had certain firmware compatibility (ie, 1.58 wouldn't boot AOSP ROMs, but 1.4/1.5 would), and the ENG ones had a bunch of extra fastboot options built in. Not that I need any of that (I'm perfectly happy with just my recovery and basic fastboot options), but just asking out of pure curiosity.

Evo 3D is an HTC yes? I remember from my old Hero, HTC pretty much write their own bootloader, so they can lock out certain features etc. The Nexus 5 bootloader is the full featured, engineering boot loader if you will. No need to go around changing it.
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TheReverend210 said:
Evo 3D is an HTC yes? I remember from my old Hero, HTC pretty much write their own bootloader, so they can lock out certain features etc. The Nexus 5 bootloader is the full featured, engineering boot loader if you will. No need to go around changing it.
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The benefit of custom HTC bootloaders didn't stop at s-off. It could be used to change the mtd partition allocation. Use aosp? Wasting 1 GB of /system and /cache? No problem. Re use it for /data
Op, not that I've seen
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Why is unlocking the bootloader neccessary?

It seems like the bootloader being unlocked is the determining factor in development and implementation of roms/themes for this phone and I dont understand why. I know that unlocking the bootloader allows for some things like overclocking and other tweaks to be done that otherwise could not, but I dont understand why that effects the ability for us to get a working recovery and to be able to flash various mods, including roms and themes. My SE X10 didnt have a locked bootloader and I had xRecovery/WB v6.0 rom/Envy theme and various mods flashed to it just fine.
They ended up being able to unlock the bootloader but I never did it so my phone surely wasnt as fast as those with unlocked bootloader/custom kernel/oc but it was noticeably faster than it was stock so im wondering why we cant have the same on this phone? Aside from the part of not having a working recovery with which to flash them.
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916x10 said:
It seems like the bootloader being unlocked is the determining factor in development and implementation of roms/themes for this phone and I dont understand why. I know that unlocking the bootloader allows for some things like overclocking and other tweaks to be done that otherwise could not, but I dont understand why that effects the ability for us to get a working recovery and to be able to flash various mods, including roms and themes. My SE X10 didnt have a locked bootloader and I had xRecovery/WB v6.0 rom/Envy theme and various mods flashed to it just fine.
They ended up being able to unlock the bootloader but I never did it so my phone surely wasnt as fast as those with unlocked bootloader/custom kernel/oc but it was noticeably faster than it was stock so im wondering why we cant have the same on this phone? Aside from the part of not having a working recovery with which to flash them.
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the x10 modding was very dirty to say the least. if you've ever had a g1 or nexus device, you would see how much easier and less potential for problems involved with an unlocked bootloader. the bootloader allows for custom kernels and radios to be installed easily.
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svtfmook said:
the x10 modding was very dirty to say the least. if you've ever had a g1 or nexus device, you would see how much easier and less potential for problems involved with an unlocked bootloader. the bootloader allows for custom kernels and radios to be installed easily.
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Less potential for problems? Unlocking the bootloader was the only way I could brick the x10. With a locked bootloader I could do whatever I wanted without fear of bricking it. Saying the modding was dirty doesnt mean anything to me, please explain. I never had any issues with the mods on that phone, it was inredibly better after running Wolfbreaks rom, thats one of the 2 reasons I even kept that phone as long as I did. Im just trying to understand why we need our bootlocker unlocked to get a rom on it. The Bionic bootloader is still locked but they have roms for it. I just dont understand.
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Less potential for problems? Unlocking the bootloader was the only way I could brick the x10. With a locked bootloader I could do whatever I wanted without fear of bricking it. Saying the modding was dirty doesnt mean anything to me, please explain. I never had any issues with the mods on that phone, it was inredibly better after running Wolfbreaks rom, thats one of the 2 reasons I even kept that phone as long as I did. Im just trying to understand why we need our bootlocker unlocked to get a rom on it. The Bionic bootloader is still locked but they have roms for it. I just dont understand.
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i mean less problems with a custom rom or problems for the devs trying to adapt to a non custom kernel. sure, unlocking the bootloader opens up the potential of bricking your device.
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i mean less problems with a custom rom or problems for the devs trying to adapt to a non custom kernel. sure, unlocking the bootloader opens up the potential of bricking your device.
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So its harder to dev a rom for a stock kernel than it is for a custom one? You wouldnt think that would be the case but then again Ive never developed anything so what do I know?
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916x10 said:
So its harder to dev a rom for a stock kernel than it is for a custom one? You wouldnt think that would be the case but then again Ive never developed anything so what do I know?
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If its based off of a stock rom, its fine. But if you try to port a cm rom, miui or sdk port, its rough
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If its based off of a stock rom, its fine. But if you try to port a cm rom, miui or sdk port, its rough
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That's exactly what Wolfbreaks rom was, a debloated, tweaked version of the stock rom. Even that was noticeably better than stock so i'm wondering if we could at least get that. It would be better than nothing, right?
but its not like we really need a debloated version of the stock rom. the phone is already extremely fast and most of the bloatware that we have can be uninstalled so what is the point? to waste the developers time just to give us something that will pretty much be same thing just barely be faster?
One reason would be to OC. Would love to see how fast she performs OC to 1.2 plus I'd like to see CyanogenMod on top of ICS
That and I'd like to have Sense. I miss having my HD2 with the Desire stock rom
travisxcore said:
That and I'd like to have Sense. I miss having my HD2 with the Desire stock rom
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you wont see sense on this device....pipe dreams dude. if you want sense, go buy an HTC device....
kindacrazyazn said:
but its not like we really need a debloated version of the stock rom. the phone is already extremely fast and most of the bloatware that we have can be uninstalled so what is the point? to waste the developers time just to give us something that will pretty much be same thing just barely be faster?
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That's pretty obvious seeing as how we can get rid of most of the bloat out of the box. That you would even think that's what i'm requesting somebody do is quite ridiculous, then to type it out and post it even more so.
Wolfbreak and many other devs who contributed tweaks/mods to comprise his rom did waaaay more than debloat, LMAO.
I don't think anyone can say how much faster/smoother the rom will or won't be compared to stock until the work gets done....Wolfbreaks rom made the X10 noticeably faster on locked bootloader, I can only imagine what he could accomplish on the Atrix 2. But i'm not trying to insist anyone do anything for this phone, I was just questioning why everyone seemed to feel we needed to unlock the bootloader before we could get custom roms on the phone. I was expecting to hear some technological explanation about how it's not possible to apply the changes needed with a custom rom due to certain necessary files being unaccessible due to the bootloader being locked. But it just seeems it's a choice being made by the devs who want the full on custom rom/kernel experience instead of at least taking baby steps and tweaking the stock rom to get the most out of it until the bootloader unlock becomes available.
I'm sure there is lots of performance that can be unleashed with the right mods to the stock rom.....but I guess that's kind of putting the carriage before the horse seeing as how we don't even have a way to flash it if someone did do something.
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That's pretty obvious seeing as how we can get rid of most of the bloat out of the box. That you would even think that's what i'm requesting somebody do is quite ridiculous, then to type it out and post it even more so.
Wolfbreak and many other devs who contributed tweaks/mods to comprise his rom did waaaay more than debloat, LMAO.
I don't think anyone can say how much faster/smoother the rom will or won't be compared to stock until the work gets done....Wolfbreaks rom made the X10 noticeably faster on locked bootloader, I can only imagine what he could accomplish on the Atrix 2. But i'm not trying to insist anyone do anything for this phone, I was just questioning why everyone seemed to feel we needed to unlock the bootloader before we could get custom roms on the phone. I was expecting to hear some technological explanation about how it's not possible to apply the changes needed with a custom rom due to certain necessary files being unaccessible due to the bootloader being locked. But it just seeems it's a choice being made by the devs who want the full on custom rom/kernel experience instead of at least taking baby steps and tweaking the stock rom to get the most out of it until the bootloader unlock becomes available.
I'm sure there is lots of performance that can be unleashed with the right mods to the stock rom.....but I guess that's kind of putting the carriage before the horse seeing as how we don't even have a way to flash it if someone did do something.
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ya i am not trying to say you are wrong or anything. i probably just don't know because when i had my first android phone i rooted and went straight to cm6 at the time and it was extremely fast compared to stock. almost anything was faster than stock too. personally if i were to flash a different ROM i would go with something alittle different from stock. that is why i would root it in the first place. OC and other tweaks like signal dbm and battery percent in the status bar would help a lot too but i guess it takes them alittle time to do that. i am excited to be able to overclock though. seeing that the sg2 can overclock to 1.8 Ghz makes me jealous.
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ya i am not trying to say you are wrong or anything. i probably just don't know because when i had my first android phone i rooted and went straight to cm6 at the time and it was extremely fast compared to stock. almost anything was faster than stock too. personally if i were to flash a different ROM i would go with something alittle different from stock. that is why i would root it in the first place. OC and other tweaks like signal dbm and battery percent in the status bar would help a lot too but i guess it takes them alittle time to do that. i am excited to be able to overclock though. seeing that the sg2 can overclock to 1.8 Ghz makes me jealous.
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Wow, thats a crazy OC!
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you wont see sense on this device....pipe dreams dude. if you want sense, go buy an HTC device....
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Hey a man can dream, wouldnt be the first time Ive seen Sense on a non-HTC phone.
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916x10 said:
Wow, thats a crazy OC!
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I agree. I was like flipping out when I saw the article on xda and was thinking if I should have bought the sg2 but ATRIX 2 for life! Haha
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You really can't beat the Atrix 2 for the price though. Most of us got it for $50. This thing can hit 1.2ghz for sure, the droid razr is using the same chip and being shipped at 1.2. We could probably even make it to 1.4-5 once its unlocked.
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You really can't beat the Atrix 2 for the price though. Most of us got it for $50. This thing can hit 1.2ghz for sure, the droid razr is using the same chip and being shipped at 1.2. We could probably even make it to 1.4-5 once its unlocked.
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I can't wait for that day. I am also looking forward to the day when we get ics and more ROMs. I miss flashing new ROMs.
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kindacrazyazn said:
I can't wait for that day. I am also looking forward to the day when we get ics and more ROMs. I miss flashing new ROMs.
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Same here! Although im kinda skurred about the oc thing. Oc = heat, increasing the heat
is decreasing the life of the device. I dunno, im just skurred!
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Benefits of root?

I've rooted and used custom roms on other devices in the past although I've left my Nexus stock and my OneX is currently stock. With this phone I am trying to figure out why I want to root? The phone runs great, I haven't had reboots or issues and battery life is great.
I don't care for custom roms because in my experience there's always minor things that don't quite work and stability can be so so.
Apart from custom roms any good reason to root this phone? With my Sensation I rooted right away but with the One X, there's nothing that I feel like needs to be addressed with root.
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Bloatware removal, button remap, memory settings to alleviate multitasking woes, ad blocking, tethering, etc... Check out cleanROM SE. Very close to stock, every tweak you need, nothing you don't, just as stable as the stock ROM. My phone is exactly the way I want it now thanks to Scott and his awesome, awesome ROM.
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mobilehavoc said:
I've rooted and used custom roms on other devices in the past although I've left my Nexus stock and my OneX is currently stock. With this phone I am trying to figure out why I want to root? The phone runs great, I haven't had reboots or issues and battery life is great.
I don't care for custom roms because in my experience there's always minor things that don't quite work and stability can be so so.
Apart from custom roms any good reason to root this phone? With my Sensation I rooted right away but with the One X, there's nothing that I feel like needs to be addressed with root.
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Titanium Backup
Change fonts
tweaks like minfree manager to fix multitasking
look through this list https://play.google.com/store/search?q=Root&c=apps
reasons why i need root is removal of bloatware, tweaks, titanium backup, ad block, setcpu profiles and extra settings that devs put in their roms like eqs, button remaps, and wifi hotspot hack.
Can't wait till aokp or cm9 becomes stable. Gave aokp a try and that rom flies on this device.
Responses above pretty much covered it, as far as the benefits of root. But I have to disagree to some degree to the OPs comments on custom ROMs. It completely depends on the ROM and the developer. But my experience with custom ROMs, is that they can often be more stable than stock, and much better performance. Obviously, bugs need to be worked out early on, especially for ROMs that differ significantly from stock (like AOSP ROMs on HTC devices). But once the ROMs reach "maturity" they are often better than stock. And CleanROM is a good example of a ROM that is already stable, since it is mostly stock, but with lots of bloat removed, optimizations, and useful features.
That said, its only fairly recent where Android devices have high enough specs where performance isn't much of an issue on the stock ROM. Even with Sense, the One X is very smooth and responsive, and plenty of people will be just fine staying on the stock ROM. I am mostly on CleanROM due to the nice features like Advanced Power Menu, WiFi Hotspot, and button remap built-in.
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Another thing you can do rooted is install the HTC apps that AT&T removed, including Flashlight and FM Radio.
I did it. Have root.
Any one have links to the button remap that's safe and works on 1.85? I want to do that the black bar with 3 dots drives me crazy.
The Cleanrom 3.0 SE does this. Just rooted last night and I'm loving it. Makes the xda app so much better
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brandontrout said:
The Cleanrom 3.0 SE does this. Just rooted last night and I'm loving it. Makes the xda app so much better
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I don't want to flash a rom, can I patch the stock rom?
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mobilehavoc said:
I don't want to flash a rom, can I patch the stock rom?
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why don't you open the development section and take a look around?
Index where you can find most mods and other things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
But here is direct link to removing the 3-dot bar and remap the buttons:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645290
You will need to flash Clockwork or TWRP recovery. Or else unzip the contents and copy them into the system folders manually.
redpoint73 said:
Index where you can find most mods and other things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
But here is direct link to removing the 3-dot bar and remap the buttons:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645290
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give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish...
gunnyman said:
give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish...
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Linking him to my index thread is pretty much teaching him how to fish.
redpoint73 said:
Linking him to my index thread is pretty much teaching him how to fish.
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oh yeah.
sometimes I can be a bit of a douche. Sorry.
gunnyman said:
oh yeah.
sometimes I can be a bit of a douche. Sorry.
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Heh, no worries. Your point in people learning how to find stuff themselves is legit. For some reason I was feeling non-douche today.
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Heh, no worries. Your point in people learning how to find stuff themselves is legit. For some reason I was feeling non-douche today.
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The thread is helpful thanks. Btw I can flash CWM and use it for backup/mods without unlocking boot loader right?
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mobilehavoc said:
The thread is helpful thanks. Btw I can flash CWM and use it for backup/mods without unlocking boot loader right?
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nope.
flashing an unsigned recovery like cwm requires unlocked BL
gunnyman said:
nope.
flashing an unsigned recovery like cwm requires unlocked BL
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****. And unlocking boot loader means wiping phone. What a pain in the ass. Wish we could just get s-off so wouldn't have to do all this nonense. I'll just stick with root for now
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If you don't want to unlock the bootloader, you can still install the 3-dot menu mod. You'll need an app like Root Explorer or ES File Explorer (that lets you browse the system files). Unzip the file from the thread, copy to the appropriate places. You will need to mount the folder locations as R/W, and also make sure the permissions on each of the files you copy is right. Read through the thread for that mod for details.
I would recommend unlocking your bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, just so you won't lose root after the next OTA (I recommend TWRP, cwm seems a bit unstable and there are reports of sd wipes). In the dev forum there is a thread that steps you through keeping all of your settings, I would check that out
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Let me entice you for doing the 3butt mod..
Mmmmm.... Full screen goodness FTW!
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Well I give up on mt4gs moving on.......

Prob gonna get an unlocked gsm droid 3 its much easier to root and unlock thanks for the semi help
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Too bad. Mine took 2hrs and 20min. 2hrs of reading and 20min of methodical work in adb.
Sorry your research failed you.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Doesnt the D3 only have the standard WW 3G Freqs, i.e. Band I. It'll be 2G on T-Mobile.
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Ohgami_Ichiro said:
Doesnt the D3 only have the standard WW 3G Freqs, i.e. Band I. It'll be 2G on T-Mobile.
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Yeah, there will be no 4G support there.
crimedave1987 said:
Prob gonna get an unlocked gsm droid 3 its much easier to root and unlock thanks for the semi help
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You tried the all in one toolkit?
Or the new virtuous Rom ?
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I thought getting S-Off would be hard with the new bootloader. All you really need is some free time (Hour at the longest), and some Tigers Blood (Keeping the SWAG up).
Carrier Unlock can be done for free, on a stock rom. A simple terminal command, and BAMN! Unlocked.
Rooting is so simple, ADB and 10 minutes.
Moto devices tend to not have a recovery image. Bootstrap is all you have. Going from an HTC device to Moto is a hard thing to do. When you root/unlock the device, alot of issues arise. Plus the D3 has no devs, only Hascode. You'll have 1, 2 good roms. Atleast here you have some more choice. Motorolla devices suck. I've worked with phones a better part of my life, and know many in the game. I'm best friends with a Motorolla phone tester. He's using the new Quad-Core Moto phone (Spyder 2X), pure Jellybean on it. It sucks ass, slower than slow. Our phone murders it in speed. I've never meet a happy moto owner. In the area i live in, having some best friends whos parents work for Moto is normal. Even there parent, engineers for the phones......say there P.O.S.
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Prob gonna get an unlocked gsm droid 3 its much easier to root and unlock thanks for the semi help
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Nothing that is worthwhile is EVER easy. As true with phones as it is life in general. Good Luck though.
BTW......it can only honestly be considered "semi-help" because no one offered to do it FOR you. JMHO....
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Nothing that is worthwhile is EVER easy. As true with phones as it is life in general. Good Luck though.
BTW......it can only honestly be considered "semi-help" because no one offered to do it FOR you. JMHO....
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ive been looking all over the all in one doesnt work the damn wire trick requires root which i dont have and i have the latest 1.63 cause some one told me to update it and do the wiretrick method and failed ive tryed downgrading this crap no luck ive tryed putting ics while s-on doesnt work the reason i give up is cause i need details on the directories and etc and people lack on writing extra details like the other threads i posted a few of the same question over and over i understand my mistake for consantly asking but they tell me try mr root try this try that then i read the discribion and says that the phone has to be rooted im gonna be honest you tried giving me details but its not enough i havent rooted in a looooong time before this mytouch i had the G1 so you think about how many years thats been i mean its words cant help give me a video ill prob root this thing without damaging it ...... and cause dev get so mad at me asking the same question they just end up being rude and telling me that you shouldnt root it if you unaware i mean thats why we are here for to help if i know how to root a device i would gladly give out detail by detail tutorial or make a video or take pictures to better help newbies and not be cocky about it
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ive been looking all over the all in one doesnt work the damn wire trick requires root which i dont have and i have the latest 1.63 cause some one told me to update it and do the wiretrick method and failed ive tryed downgrading this crap no luck ive tryed putting ics while s-on doesnt work the reason i give up is cause i need details on the directories and etc and people lack on writing extra details like the other threads i posted a few of the same question over and over i understand my mistake for consantly asking but they tell me try mr root try this try that then i read the discribion and says that the phone has to be rooted im gonna be honest you tried giving me details but its not enough i havent rooted in a looooong time before this mytouch i had the G1 so you think about how many years thats been i mean its words cant help give me a video ill prob root this thing without damaging it ...... and cause dev get so mad at me asking the same question they just end up being rude and telling me that you shouldnt root it if you unaware i mean thats why we are here for to help if i know how to root a device i would gladly give out detail by detail tutorial or make a video or take pictures to better help newbies and not be cocky about it
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Lemme try and make a video. I have a spare DS, but none of the buttons work. I can try to make a video if it helps. But I'll have to see.
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1 hour of research, like 20 minutes of work.
So quick and easy that months later I forgot that I did it already.
Also, I used the Droid 3 and Droid 4 at work and they suck. Build quality seems cheap, keyboards are too clicky, and phones are enourmous in size.
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AgentCherryColla said:
Lemme try and make a video. I have a spare DS, but none of the buttons work. I can try to make a video if it helps. But I'll have to see.
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thank you sir you are a scholar
I'd hate for you to leave the doubleshot scene because you couldn't get the phone rooted. Its a great phone with great devs. Its a touch confusing, this one, because the firmware rev changed the process, and it may not be immediately apparent which of the instructions you need.
These are the steps I took three weeks ago to get a new-in-the-box 1.63 phone from its original condition to cm9. I ended up using hassoon's toolkit but not his gui. But the download contains adb, fastboot, a working recovery, and such dlls as are required. Used htc unlocker procedure, and I'm still s-on and it hasn't been an issue (except that I have to have my laptop to flash new roms.) So you can put the wire down.
Fetch hassoons toolkit. Fetch the HTC sync installer. I presume you've done all this, but I'm putting it down for the sake of completion. Download cm9 alpha6 to your phone's sdcard. Also, open the cm9 zip and copy the included boot.img to your computer. Probably should put it in the directory created by hassoon's, right next to fastboot.
Run the htc sync installer as far as installing the usb drivers. Cancel out before installing sync.
Extract hassoons toolkit somewhere handy.
Go to HTC's site and walk through the unlocker process. Use the binary adb in hassoon to perform the instructions therein.
Now you have hboot 1.63, unlocked, s-on.
Use fastboot in hassoon's kit to flash cwm. Don't forget to clear data and cache. I usually go ahead and wipe system and dalvik cache.
Boot into cwm. Install rom. Power down, then power up to hboot. Switch to fastboot mode.
Flash boot.img using fastboot.
Reboot.
Profit.
My phone is always with me. I'll pay attention to yer thread if you have more questions. Call it my contribution. Ftw.
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Oh and I have no idea what the actual process is for rooting the stock rom. Use miktouch for that. Stock with all the work done. Its the only way to keep the camera AFAIK. But I live on cm9.
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macksgarage said:
I'd hate for you to leave the doubleshot scene because you couldn't get the phone rooted. Its a great phone with great devs. Its a touch confusing, this one, because the firmware rev changed the process, and it may not be immediately apparent which of the instructions you need.
These are the steps I took three weeks ago to get a new-in-the-box 1.63 phone from its original condition to cm9. I ended up using hassoon's toolkit but not his gui. But the download contains adb, fastboot, a working recovery, and such dlls as are required. Used htc unlocker procedure, and I'm still s-on and it hasn't been an issue (except that I have to have my laptop to flash new roms.) So you can put the wire down.
Fetch hassoons toolkit. Fetch the HTC sync installer. I presume you've done all this, but I'm putting it down for the sake of completion. Download cm9 alpha6 to your phone's sdcard. Also, open the cm9 zip and copy the included boot.img to your computer. Probably should put it in the directory created by hassoon's, right next to fastboot.
Run the htc sync installer as far as installing the usb drivers. Cancel out before installing sync.
Extract hassoons toolkit somewhere handy.
Go to HTC's site and walk through the unlocker process. Use the binary adb in hassoon to perform the instructions therein.
Now you have hboot 1.63, unlocked, s-on.
Use fastboot in hassoon's kit to flash cwm. Don't forget to clear data and cache. I usually go ahead and wipe system and dalvik cache.
Boot into cwm. Install rom. Power down, then power up to hboot. Switch to fastboot mode.
Flash boot.img using fastboot.
Reboot.
Profit.
My phone is always with me. I'll pay attention to yer thread if you have more questions. Call it my contribution. Ftw.
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alright dude im gonna try again in your way ill be ready at 11pm for some questions incase im stuck
thanks
What tz? I'm in eastern us. EST.
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maybe we could get on irc at 11 est because I for one need to try the newer radio to see if it will stop my X for signal sometimes, and with the rev boot loader the new radio boot loops me as soon as it goes to sleep and I wake it
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I'm down for that, but I'm probably useless until Sunday. I have two jobs and I'm scheduled a shift each on both of them today and tomorrow.
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macksgarage said:
I'm down for that, but I'm probably useless until Sunday. I have two jobs and I'm scheduled a shift each on both of them today and tomorrow.
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I just had to loan my tower to my parents so this kinda put a damper on things LOL
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Damn your having the worst luck with computers....I remember reading over at mik that you're main machine melted down and busted you back to 2006.
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Blame Ohio
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Unlocking Bootloader, Root, & ROM questions

1. Is having a ROM such as CyanogenMod safe to use for a long period of time? (I don't want to wake up and my phone won't boot.)
2. Is CM Updater safe to use?
3. Is having TWRP on my device as reliable as stock recovery?
4. Is there any other popular ROMs with OTA updates besides CyanogenMod and Omni? I would feel more comfortable having it auto-flash for me rather than having to manually flash each update.
I always flash my devices with CyanogenMod and revert back to stock shortly after because I feel like if something happens to my device I won't be able to RMA and I'll be screwed.
Thanks in advance.
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The great thing about Nexus devices is they are very hard to brick. As long as you can get to bootloader, you can flash stock images and you're back in business. As far as your questions: 1. Yes as long as it's a stable build. It's very alpha right now so if you want safe, you should probably wait. 2. Yes. 3. Not right now. It's still buggy. 4. Yes. There are many. Paranoid Android is one I can think of off the top of my head.
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I would feel more comfortable having it auto-flash for me rather than having to manually flash each update.
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No no no no no.
If you're not comfortable manually flashing your device, DONT flash your device. The people who "auto" anything are the people who don't know enough to get themselves out of trouble. This is the reason you should READ, READ and then READ.
Dont do anything until you are comfortable. Dont do anything automatically that you couldn't do manually.
Definitely start by reading the ref thread stickied at the top of this q&a section
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[Q] Any custom roms for cricket?

Do any custom roms exist for cricket users at all? If so, does it require s-off to flash them?
You can be S-On but your bootloader must be unlocked. Just have to flash the boot.img through fastboot by extracting it from the Rom. As for a custom Rom for cricket given this device... I do not believe there is one available. If you find one, please post on here for other cricket users.
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What guide (if any) would you recommend for building a stock rom for this carrier, for those unable to achieve s-off and still not wanting all the bloat and branding?
zomgitsanoob said:
What guide (if any) would you recommend for building a stock rom for this carrier, for those unable to achieve s-off and still not wanting all the bloat and branding?
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That would be a question for @old.splatterhand
Although, I must say, that he has been really busy and occupied but if he is generous he may be willing to help you out with making a rom with less bloatware, etc. However, I believe cooking a Rom with Kitchen may be a solution though it is not something I have personally played with myself.
I focus more on modding, tweaking, hacking, etc - hence my name
For a custom rom, take a stock one like this.
It should flash with correct updater-script, so no problem on this side.
If you want to make changes, open the zip and delete things or extract the apk's you want to mod and drag & drop them back, when your done.
Look around at xda, there are a plenty of guides for that.
Going through, and reviewing some of my old comments lol. I have come a long way in such a short time. Surprised my head hasn't exploded.
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