As the question says, I finally could root my 1.85 HOXL but I can't unlock the bootloader with all the methods I have tried, my main goal is to install the viperxl rom and receive the ota updates from them, so I ask you if I can flash that rom even if I'm not bootloader unlocked?
Thanks for the response guys and excuse me but I'm afraid of bricking my phone...
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No, there is no risk in the bootloader unlock anyway. It was developed by HTC
I suggest you read around and have everything downloaded before doing so. The bricking threads about the bootloader unlock are from stupidity. If you understand what you're doing or atleast follow directions you will be fine
If you need help there's always someone here
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renehd2 said:
Can I flash a rom if I'm rooted but not bootloader unlocked??
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No.
Where are you getting stuck?
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I see from your other post here that your issue is just lack of knowledge, rather than the SuperCID methods not working.
In that case, agree with superchilpil that you should read/learn more before proceeding. Its really not that hard, once you've done the research, and follow the instructions carefully.
i have done my rooting
screwed up though thought i did a back up but no
i did a backup with titanium and thats not going to get me back to original rom (or is it?)
so my question is do i need a stock rom to get back or is there another way
i have done some research and see nomention of needing a stock rom but i just want to make sure before i attempt it
thanks again guys
Ruu back to stock
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babarnard said:
i have done my rooting
screwed up though thought i did a back up but no
i did a backup with titanium and thats not going to get me back to original rom (or is it?)
so my question is do i need a stock rom to get back or is there another way
i have done some research and see nomention of needing a stock rom but i just want to make sure before i attempt it
thanks again guys
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You can flash a rooted stock rom. There are several in the development forum.
ive been doing more reading as well i see i can install a ruu from rogers as well if im reading correctly
after i get rid of the s/u files and after i lock the bootloader?
is that what you mean by rooted stock roms
thanks elvis
What he means is you don't have to ruu back to stock and relock bootloader. You can just flash a sense ROM. However if you have hboot 1.14 you'll have to flash the boot IMG in adb.
If your rooted with 2.20 firmware and 1.14 hboot? I can send you a link with some walkthrough if you'd like?
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my hboot is 1.11.0000 i believe its 2.20 build number is 2.20502.7cl79936 hope that makes sense
remember im still wet behind the ears with this stuff so speak in rooting for dummies language lol
i will take all the help i can get
thanks subaru
Here to help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33303798
Read through this. Looks like you are mostly through this. But it is a great guide. Be sure to hit the thanks button for the op?
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I looked around and I don't think you'll have to flash the boot IMG with you hboot. I'll ask one of the devs and see if he'll respond.
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subarudroid said:
What he means is you don't have to ruu back to stock and relock bootloader. You can just flash a sense ROM. However if you have hboot 1.14 you'll have to flash the boot IMG in adb.
If your rooted with 2.20 firmware and 1.14 hboot? I can send you a link with some walkthrough if you'd like?
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babarnard said:
my hboot is 1.11.0000 i believe its 2.20 build number is 2.20502.7cl79936 hope that makes sense
remember im still wet behind the ears with this stuff so speak in rooting for dummies language lol
i will take all the help i can get
thanks subaru
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subarudroid said:
Here to help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33303798
Read through this. Looks like you are mostly through this. But it is a great guide. Be sure to hit the thanks button for the op?
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I looked around and I don't think you'll have to flash the boot IMG with you hboot. I'll ask one of the devs and see if he'll respond.
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you only need to flash boot.img for 1.14 or higher (higher doesn't exist, yet)
Hi!
I have a S4 device with a stock rom, sense 4+.
Before rooting i want to know if there's a method to unroot and restore my warranty back.I read that with classic method it will show "restored" or something..
thanks
AW: [S4][Q] How to unroot and restore warranty.
Your bootloader will say "relocked" when you restore your phone to stock.
But I think you can still send your phone to repair if you are on stock rom and recovery.
One method is to run a RUU (you have to be relocked) this will put your phone back to factory status, but this will only work when you are on hboot <2.15
The other method is shown here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37942416&postcount=2
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Since you have unlocked your bootloader its not possible to get your warranty back.
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NQNH said:
Your bootloader will say "relocked" when you restore your phone to stock.
But I think you can still send your phone to repair if you are on stock rom and recovery.
One method is to run a RUU (you have to be relocked) this will put your phone back to factory status, but this will only work when you are on hboot <2.15
The other method is shown here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37942416&postcount=2
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Since you have unlocked your bootloader its not possible to get your warranty back.
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Thanks you very much..
And...I bet it's not possible to root without unlocking the bootloader
(i'm a newbie)
Need bootloader unlocked
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I have been researching this for several hours and have read several different ways to do this. I'm hoping someone can help me out here. I would like to root my HTC Inspire, or flash a Jelly Bean type ROM, the later would be preferred. I somewhat understand the steps: rooting, then possible S-off (which some say yes and some say no for flashing new ROM), then some type of recovery app, and finally the new ROM. Then I have also read that some ROMs do the rooting and unlocking for me. My confusion in the steps are more because of reading so many different ways that I'm turning to the experts here, hoping someone is tired of answering the same old questions. I have looked all over XDA, but the all inclusive steps seem to include outdated techniques.
This is what I have understood so far:
1) A hacking tool used to be available for rooting and now isn't
2) The Ace tool was then used, but I read that it isn't supported and may not work.
3) Official CM roms for the Inspire are only for Gingerbread replacement, which I have now so why replace it with that rom.
4) Other roms seem to be Jelly Bean type upgrades, but I'm not sure which one would be the best. Or if I need to root and unlock first before flashing it.
5) Possibly, maybe not, I would need to revert back to factory version (froyo) before doing anything.
Questions:
So, now rooting is done how? (if I wanted to only have root access but keep Gingerbread)
Is there a stable Jelly Bean rom that includes rooting and unlocking?
My Inspire came with Froyo and was upgraded OTA to Gingerbread, do I need to factory reset before doing any of these things?
(probably a stupid question to you guys, but....) I like customizing my phone, if I were to flash a Jelly Bean type rom, would that be the operating system version my phone would be, like when getting apps that require that version and above?
How does HTC Sense factor into all this?
Thanking you in advance for your patience! :fingers-crossed:
Need help?
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Being root is not what is important. S off is with an unlocked bootloader. An unlocked bootloader gives u the opportunity to flash custom roms
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If u need my help let me know. :/
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Need help?
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Being root is not what is important. S off is with an unlocked bootloader. An unlocked bootloader gives u the opportunity to flash custom roms
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If u need my help let me know. :/
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Thanks so much for responding! If I follow the instructions here, and then find a rom I'd like to use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133336
This says it is for stock devices only. Mine has a Gingerbread update from Froyo.
What if I just wanted to root if I can't find a reliable rom to use. There are so many different sources for that without clear instructions.
Just follow glevitans instructions..then gain s off and flash a jb rom
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Ok. But, what if I just want to have root access without a custom rom. Like I was saying, the custom rom for Jelly Bean would be great if I could find a reliable one. But, in the meantime I'd like to root in order to get rid of all the bloatware that is consuming internal memory and battery.
I hear ya. Sometimes staying stock after rooting is a good idea. After a cpl yrs flashing roms, I wish I would have. My devices performance slowed down.
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I would suggest u unlock bootloader and gain s off. Or just unlock bootloader and keep s on. It's all a matter of preference.
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I guess I'm missing something here, I thought rooting and unlocking were two different things. Unlocking would be preparing the phone for a Rom (along with root), which unless I find one, I won't do that. And then rooting can be done without unlocking or flashing a new Rom, but I'll have a few more performance tweaking options just with that. It seems the few tools used for rooting are either unavailable or sketchy to use. That's all I want right now, is to root the phone, unless you can suggest a reliable rom. I'd rather not unlock for no reason since this is my first time.
I will post a Rom. Hold on.
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U have to unlock bootloader dude to gain root. I am trying to tell u that
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Flash mokee by cedarctic
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android
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And check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38571636
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This is what I was trying to say earlier about conflicting information on the internet, which the experts in these forums recommend we do first before bothering you. And people are using different terms that mean the same thing.
Lifehacker article said,"Unlocking your bootloader doesn't root your phone directly, but does allow you to root/and or flash custom roms."
That's why I kept asking the question. Some of us aren't stupid, just trying to learn based on the information provided.
This is what I have understood so far based on what you're saying?
1) unlock bootloader (found link for that)
2) s- on or off (how? To turn s-off)
3) root (still nothing on that step as far as the how to)
Not saying ur stupid. Just want u to read the threads I posted so u are familiar with the root process
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Unlock your bootloader and leave your device s on. U will have to flash a Rom via fastboot.
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Or u can unlock bl and install superuser
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I have thoroughly read all the links you provided and greatly appreciate your patience. But, in the first I asked about, with the HTC Unlocking tool, you said to use that. But, you also gave me a link to the Easy Ace Root Tool. Both have clear sets of instructions.
If I use either, after the process is done, will my gingerbread still be in tact in order for me to download the Superuser app you mentioned? I have seen it before, but requires root access.
I gave u both of those links for u to make a choice about how u might wanna go about rooting your inspire. I used the aahk years ago. Lol
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When I did my inspire, I had to make a gold card,unlock my boot loader ,super cid it ,flash recovery and then root it. Idk if your gb will still be in tact. I had to go from froyo to gb when I originally rooted mine.
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There is a member that is truly proficient in your predictament...gizmoe..look under his signature for help rooting this device. He will gladly help u. U could p.m him, but let him know that I referred him to u
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He will need all your bootloader details. Could u plz list them on here as well so I can see? All the info on your bootloader..
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Mine are...unlocked...supercid...s off..hboot 2.00 ..radio version...etc etc
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A thank u button press would be nice. Haha )
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I was going to thank you when all was said and done, and have along the way. I've just been a little busy since I last commented.
Before you mentioned it, I did find and read a lot about the AAHK, but like a couple of other tools, it is currently unsupported. I'm late to the game with trying to get this phone rooted. But, I was considering trying it due to its dummy proof method and excellent manual and instructions.
But, came across a few conflicting pieces of info with it. One said no on using with Gingerbread, as it would mess up my bootloader, but another said yes as long as it was shipped with Froyo and upgraded to GB. The only conflict with bootloader spec was those that were less than 2.00.0029, whereas mine is 2.00.0030. I don't know enough about all that. Other than that, my device wasn't listed in the manual as being one that would needed to be downgraded first. And I should possibly use the recovery program with touch (forgot the name) instead of the one it comes with (in case I do decide to flash a new rom).
My device details are:
HTC Inspire 4G (Desire HD)
Android: 2.3.5 (shipped Froyo, OTA update to Gingerbread)
Sense: 3.0 (OTA upgrade from ?)
Software Version: 3.20.502.52 710RD
Bootloader: 2.00.0030
SDK Version: 10
I'll definitely pm Gizmoe, I appreciate you referring me to him. I'm thoroughly trying to research all this stuff before trying anything so I can get a better idea of what to do if something happens in the process.
I'm kinda leaning toward the aahk because of the s-off feature. I probably won't ever mess with the radio, but I did read that s-off is needed if I want to flash a ported rom. I've honestly not done a lot of research with roms yet, baby steps.
To my understanding, and I'm probably wrong, a ported rom would be something other than CM's? CM only has a GB version for my device, where some other developers have Jelly Bean versions. I guess I figured what's the point in using a CM rom that's the same version I currently have. (Assuming I don't have to downgrade to Froyo in order to root, or anything happens to my current GB). But, roms are a whole other step.
@Ben Folds. Here is the two options I would recommend. One is to HTC dev unlock and then Fastboot flash a custom recovery. With this configuration You will be unlocked with custom recovery but still s on. You will be able to flash whatever Rom you want. However recovery can not write to the boot partition without s off. So for every Rom you flash you will have to unzip the file, pull the boot.img and use Fastboot to manually flash it on top of also flashing the custom Rom via recovery. Its really not that big of a deal. You just can not use a PD98IMG. Second you could obtain s off via the advanced method laid out by attn1(original author of aahk). It does require some knowledge of Fastboot commands and other basic Linux terminology. With s off though recovery can write to boot so only recovery needs to be used to flash a Rom, boot.img and all. Also you would be able to use a PD98IMG to install pretty much anything. So unless you really want s off for radios and don't mind taking two steps to flash a Rom HTC dev unlock should be just fine.
Thank you, Gizmoe, for your time. That makes sense. Just a couple questions.
Glevian has that one tool that is supposed to make htcdev process easier, is that ok to use?
Are there any specs on my device that would make it so I couldn't use the aahk?
If I choose not to flash a rom, will the htcdev unlocking method give me root access in order to use something like Titanium to get rid of bloatware?
I guess I was hoping to find a method that wouldn't wipe my phone but still gave me root privileges. And leave open the option for a custom rom if I find one. I guess it's still stuck in my head that I need s-off to get a jelly bean rom.
Ben Folds said:
Thank you, Gizmoe, for your time. That makes sense. Just a couple questions.
Glevian has that one tool that is supposed to make htcdev process easier, is that ok to use?
Are there any specs on my device that would make it so I couldn't use the aahk?
If I choose not to flash a rom, will the htcdev unlocking method give me root access in order to use something like Titanium to get rid of bloatware?
I guess I was hoping to find a method that wouldn't wipe my phone but still gave me root privileges. And leave open the option for a custom rom if I find one. I guess it's still stuck in my head that I need s-off to get a jelly bean rom.
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I have not used Glevitans tool but he is knowledgable so im sure its sound. HTC Dev is pretty easy though. You just make an HTC Dev account. Follow the instructions on HTC website for the DHD. You submit your token output and they email you an unlock token along with further instructions. Then with an unlocked bootloader you fastboot flash a custom recovery. Then download supersu.zip from chainfires thread and flash it via recovery and you will have root. Pretty much all methods of unlocking/s-off will wipe your device except maybe the aahk. But even then things can get wiped or a Factory Reset will be needed to make things run properly. You do have the newest hboot though if you are on 3.20.502.52 which you will need to do a special method along with the advanced procedure I linked for s-off. That process will require you to HTC Dev unlock, flash cwm from the provided tools for method and root. Then fastboot flashing an unsecure boot.img from the instructions further down on same page about 3.20.502.52. So i guess either way you are gonna need to wipe to do anything. As far as needing s off to flash a jb custom rom thats not true. Just like there is a lot of good info on these forums there is also a bunch of misinformation by users that dont know much and make assumptions by thier inability to figure things out and start rumors. as long as you fastboot flash the boot.img of the rom you use things will work.
Gizmoe, you have absolutely been a tremendous help, I can't thank you enough.
I'll go the htcdev route like you explained. If I don't need to worry about s-off then I won't. It sounds like the best route is finding a Rom to flash because afterwards I'll be back to stock Froyo after the wipe?? I'm so glad you verified that I can use whatever rom regardless of s status.
Just so I'm completely clear (sorry):
1) get the superuser.zip on my sd card ready
2) follow the steps on htcdev
3) use the cwm
4) flash superus.zip
5) fastboot flash a boot image from whatever rom I'm choosing
6) flash the new rom
I think I was getting confused as far as "root" thinking it was a step. The Superuser app said you need root to use, but then kept reading that it gives you root.
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I told ya..gizmoe rocks.
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Pretty much all u need is an unlocked bootloader. With that, tons of opportunities await u. If I would have known more than I know now, I would've stayed s on and just flashed via fastboot. Maybe that way I would've learned than actually taking shortcuts. Lol
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Gizmoe, you have absolutely been a tremendous help, I can't thank you enough.
I'll go the htcdev route like you explained. If I don't need to worry about s-off then I won't. It sounds like the best route is finding a Rom to flash because afterwards I'll be back to stock Froyo after the wipe?? I'm so glad you verified that I can use whatever rom regardless of s status.
Just so I'm completely clear (sorry):
1) get the superuser.zip on my sd card ready
2) follow the steps on htcdev
3) use the cwm
4) flash superus.zip
5) fastboot flash a boot image from whatever rom I'm choosing
6) flash the new rom
I think I was getting confused as far as "root" thinking it was a step. The Superuser app said you need root to use, but then kept reading that it gives you root.
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Yes those steps will work. Root is an exploit within the system file of a Rom so if you are going to flash a Rom that has root(which all custom ones do) you don't need to flash the supersu.zip in recovery. If you want to root a stock Rom you would use supersu.zip in recovery and then update or install supersu.apk from play store as well. Supersu.apk needs some files in system before it can work which recovery can install when you have unlock and or s-off. I know the terminology can get confusing. Root gets misused to explain unlocked or s-off, which it is neither.
the phone wont factory reset.. try all methods.. and keeps force close on every app i try open.. cant even run playstore or download apps..some time wont boot, i would have to do several battery pull before it works...
android version 2.3.5
htc sense 3.0
software number 3.20.502.52
unlocked
ace pvt ship s-on rl
hboot-2.00,0030
microp-0438
emmc-boot
hboot
fastboot
recovery
factory reset
simlock
image crc
also my my recovery mood looks like this
clockworkmod recovery v5.8.1.5
reboot system
install sip from sd
wipe/factory reset
wipe cache partition
backup and restore
mounts and storage
advanced
Run 3.20 ruu
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hey
i already try running htc_inspire4g_att_RUU_3.20.502.52_US... but i get an error message.. so it dont work.. what else u think i could do.. plese help
What was the error? Did it give u an error code?
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hey
the current image version on my phone is 3.20.502.52 so its seems my phone came with that installed.. its shows in the htc android phone update utility 1.0.6.2023 from " image version 3.20.502 to image version 3.20.502.52".... when i click next it restarts the boot loader.. shows erasing data followed by sending.."then i get an error 155.. the rom update utility cannot update your android phone please get the correct rom update utility and try again"
hey
also when i get the error and un plug my phone it shows ruu update failed.. i do a battery pull several time and the phone bootup with no change and getting the same errors
OK. The code means that u already have that firmware. Its saying since u already have that fw installed.
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Idk if u could run a lower firmware. Let me find out. Idk since ur s on,it might be a Lil trickier
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Oh wait. Your bl is unlocked. That's the problem. U need to relock bl,run ruu and unlock bl again
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Also. Are u running that ruu in fastboot mode?
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hey
that dont work and how am i gonna down grade the ruu??? can u give me a file to download???
This sounds like a boot loader issue or maybe a emmc problem
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Did this all happen out of the blue...or after flashing a rom?
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About forcing close apps, maybe formatting your sd card will be useful
gonna try that now
Didn't work huh?
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dude my girl just picked up the phione and all the apps start working.. i mean all the apps working.. how is that possible.. what is really going on
U on?
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What ROM u on? If device is operational u should flash cm 7.2. I know its old,but we can continue fixing it
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Go on hangouts plz
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i installed team vewer.. waiting on u
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168500
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First of all, you're root right? (my first guess microsd-related-problem)
Have you got a spare microsd (one that you absolutely sure it's working and is not the one you're using in your phone)?
Did anyone open the phone?(psysically). From what it looks it might be a H/W issue (if you did all the appropriate software approach)
P.S. H/W meaning ram issue, also how old is the phone?
----chrisb906 you have disabled pm's?why?-----
punkyboy906 said:
He didn't. He got banned.
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He just send me a pm
What he say?
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