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[Q] S-OFF with firmware upgrade?

Dear friends,
Something interesting happened to my Cha Cha and I wanted to tell you about it.
I bought it about two months ago from Istanbul, Turkey where I live. But it was a product produced for Romania. (There were no sale from the legal distributor at the time) It was an unopened box and I opened it for the first time.
I bought it as my secondary phone. (Primary is a sgsII)
The first thing I did with the cha cha was to try to root it to be able to use "Market Enabler" (Paid market apps cant be used here). And after some XDA research I realized that my phone was S-ON (I'm 100% sure) and I had to find an XTC Clip to be able to root it. I search for it at the local GSM services etc. but could not find.
The firmware was 1.12.xxxx
A couple of weeks later, I found the battery life insufficent and search for a newer firmware thinking they could be manage to extend the battery life.
I found an Asian firmware RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and installed it.
Then a couple of days later I found a European firmware RUU_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.1_Radio_47.17.35.3033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_204385_signed.exe and installed it to get rid of the Asian apps that I dont need.
Then today, I learnt that 1.52 OTA update is ready at XDA. To install it I turn the phone in recovery mode and I saw that it was S-OFF .
I have no idea how it happened but I wrote everything I did above.
By the way , After seeing it S-OFF, I've rooted the Cha Cha using the excellent tutorial prepared at XDA. And I installed Market Enabler.....
How could it be?
Thank you....

looks teasing!!!! but can anyone try this? i will give it a try this weekend

can this be confirmed? maybe the OTA version has a unlocked bootloader...

S-ON users could give it a try and post their results. Would be nice to know.

I am also very curious about it.
If one of the S-On Cha Cha owners can try installing those firmwares I will be happy too.
Thanks...

can you give us the source links where u have downloaded? may be it has some specific patch!!! i wil give it a try
also how did u installed the firmware thru gold card? or directly running the .exe file?
i tried installing RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3 033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and it failed since i am already in 1.33. it wont allow me to flash lower version :-(

ajeevlal said:
can you give us the source links where u have downloaded? may be it has some specific patch!!! i wil give it a try
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i would also try it, with my Polish Orange S-ON ChaCha

The European RUU's you can find in the guide in my signature.

OK, I've got the collection of files.
Now... to be clear and not to mess everything.
My ChaCha is S-ON unbranded stock one with 1.18 bought in polish Orange
I have both windows & linux so what is the best method to apply updates mentioned above? Thank you in advance.

I used only the RUU exe files. No patch or something like that.
I was on 1.12xxxx firmware. Unfortunately I don't remember the exact code.
I used the ruu exe files I mentioned above. But I can't find the download links.
I wrote the exact file names. I think all the downlads with the same name will be the same files.
My phone was unbranded at the begining obviously.
I am very sorry that I can't provide more info.

All the Europe RUU's that were posted on this forum section (HTC ChaCha) are up there on the http server I provided in the guide.
Unfortunately I was not inspired enough to upload other regions. (Downloading from Asia to my Romanian hosting would take a lot anyways).

sirjohn78 said:
I used only the RUU exe files. No patch or something like that.
I was on 1.12xxxx firmware. Unfortunately I don't remember the exact code.
I used the ruu exe files I mentioned above. But I can't find the download links.
I wrote the exact file names. I think all the downlads with the same name will be the same files.
My phone was unbranded at the begining obviously.
I am very sorry that I can't provide more info.
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i believe you cannot update ur firmware thru ruu.exe when your phone is s-on, you have to use gold card to get the update, since you have updated using ruu.exe i doubt it might already s-off before the update.

meloos said:
OK, I've got the collection of files.
Now... to be clear and not to mess everything.
My ChaCha is S-ON unbranded stock one with 1.18 bought in polish Orange
I have both windows & linux so what is the best method to apply updates mentioned above? Thank you in advance.
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Here is an explanation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17951272&postcount=44
But to summarize, under windows:
1-Create a gold card. A gold card is a modified SD card that allows the flashing of an unbrabded signed rom to a branded phone.
2-Connect the phone, run the ruu exe file, it will fail but there will be a c:/ruu_log folder with some text files. Open the most recent one and search for "Temp". Yu'll find something like:
<T065713><DEBUG><CMD>fastboot -s HT16SV409359 flash zip C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp\{3C3FDAAB-88EB-4E41-BE57-66DBAFFA8970}\{50F2F878-636A-496F-A7CB-544C067E0C4B}\rom.zip</CMD>
Find this rom.zip.
3- Copy the rom.zip file to your SD card, name it PH06IMG.zip.
4- In your chacha, in settings-> energy disable fastboot.
5-Turn off your phone. Press "Vol-" + Power for 5 seconds. It will boot into bootloader and it will ask you to upgrade. Follow the instructions, you may need to do it more than once if it needs to update the bootloader.
6- When done, delete PH06IMG.zip from the SD.
WARNING: You will lose all your settings.
Please correct me if I made errors.

ajeevlal said:
i believe you cannot update ur firmware thru ruu.exe when your phone is s-on, you have to use gold card to get the update, since you have updated using ruu.exe i doubt it might already s-off before the update.
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Are you sure about it?
Is the gold card a must for updating with ruu .exe for unbranded phone ?
As far as I know it is needed if you want to upgrade the firmware of an branded phone. (Vodafone, orange etc.)

sirjohn78 said:
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Then a couple of days later I found a European firmware RUU_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.1_Radio_47.17.35.3033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_204385_signed.exe and installed it to get rid of the Asian apps that I dont need.
Then today, I learnt that 1.52 OTA update is ready at XDA. To install it I turn the phone in recovery mode and I saw that it was S-OFF .
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The excerpt above states that S-OFF has been acquired from the 1.33 sw version. Do we have users with a lower version around? 1.18/1.21/1.22 to give this a try?

sirjohn78 said:
Are you sure about it?
Is the gold card a must for updating with ruu .exe for unbranded phone ?
As far as I know it is needed if you want to upgrade the firmware of an branded phone. (Vodafone, orange etc.)
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i believe so, i have unbranded phone with s-on, it didnt allowed me to update 1.33, so i used gold card to update!
now since i am already in 1.33 i was not able to go back to 1.25 and then back to 1.33 :-( as my device is s-on, evn with gold card since it will not allow me to downgrade....
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Alex C. said:
The excerpt above states that S-OFF has been acquired from the 1.33 sw version. Do we have users with a lower version around? 1.18/1.21/1.22 to give this a try?
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i had 1.18 and upgraded to 1.33 some time back and it didnt give me s-off

ajeevlal said:
i believe so, i have unbranded phone with s-on, it didnt allowed me to update 1.33, so i used gold card to update!
now since i am already in 1.33 i was not able to go back to 1.25 and then back to 1.33 :-( as my device is s-on, evn with gold card since it will not allow me to downgrade....
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i had 1.18 and upgraded to 1.33 some time back and it didnt give me s-off
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exactly same process here..
i neva gt SOFF

removed as i updated my previous post
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ajeevlal said:
can you give us the source links where u have downloaded? may be it has some specific patch!!! i wil give it a try
also how did u installed the firmware thru gold card? or directly running the .exe file?
i tried installing RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3 033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and it failed since i am already in 1.33. it wont allow me to flash lower version :-(
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after long search, i found a way to downgrade my phone from hboot 1.05 to 1.04 and install RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3 033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and found no s-off.
i was already using RUU_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.1_Radio_47.17.35.30 33H_7.48.35.14_2_release_204385_signed.exe and there was no s-off either.
sirjohn78 - did u do anything other than flashing these roms? if you have any rom backups in ur pc, then please upload

meloos said:
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i would also try it, with my Polish Orange S-ON ChaCha
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did you tried it? any updates?

Tester
Hello, I own HTC Chacha with Asian firmware 1.21.
I upgraded to 1.25.xx TW from 1.21.xx like mentioned above and it's still S-ON. After that i upgraded to 1.33 Euro and S-ON is still there. I'm not sure Euro OTA 1.52 will fix S-ON.
Seems 1.52 doesn't fix dialer bug, its quite disappointing. Anyways thank you XDA members.

How to root HTC Desire S Hboot 2.00.0002

Hi guys!
I did some research on how to root the Desire S with Hboot 2.00.0002 and I read that many had problems rooting the phone. I had the same problem since the revolutionary method doesn't support hboot 2.00.0002. This made the process a bit harder.
But here is what I did to root my Desire S:
1. Unlocked bootloader using htcdev.com
(I know that Desire S is not listed but if you use "Desire" it will work.)
2. Downloaded Superoneclick v2.3
(This version is included with zergRUSH and Superuser.)
I connected the phone to the computer in USB Debugging mode and opened Superoneclick. Pressed the "Root" button and the process began. After a minute or two the phone was rooted.
The only problem with this method is that the phone is still S-on. But I think you can flash custom roms and so.
I hope this will help you guys! Good luck

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koffert9 said:
Hi guys!
I did some research on how to root the Desire S with Hboot 2.00.0002 and I read that many had problems rooting the phone. I had the same problem since the revolutionary method doesn't support hboot 2.00.0002. This made the process a bit harder.
But here is what I did to root my Desire S:
1. Unlocked bootloader using htcdev.com
(I know that Desire S is not listed but if you use "Desire" it will work.)
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I don't know what the "Begin Unlock Bootloader" button on http://htcdev.com/bootloader/ is meant to do, but I tried clicking it (AFTER logging in) in 3 different browsers and it did nothing.
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OK, the answer is that if you access the page at http://htcdev.com/bootloader/ the button doesn't work but if you access it at http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/ it does. Terribly designed JavaScript!

koffert9 said:
Hi guys!
I did some research on how to root the Desire S with Hboot 2.00.0002 and I read that many had problems rooting the phone. I had the same problem since the revolutionary method doesn't support hboot 2.00.0002. This made the process a bit harder.
But here is what I did to root my Desire S:
1. Unlocked bootloader using htcdev.com
(I know that Desire S is not listed but if you use "Desire" it will work.)
2. Downloaded Superoneclick v2.3
(This version is included with zergRUSH and Superuser.)
I connected the phone to the computer in USB Debugging mode and opened Superoneclick. Pressed the "Root" button and the process began. After a minute or two the phone was rooted.
The only problem with this method is that the phone is still S-on. But I think you can flash custom roms and so.
I hope this will help you guys! Good luck
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Well I did exactly the same as you but SuperOneClick just locked up at step #7 WaitForDevice. :-( No idea what's wrong.

jez9999 said:
Well I did exactly the same as you but SuperOneClick just locked up at step #7 WaitForDevice. No idea what's wrong.
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Sorry for digging up this old post, I am too suffering from the same problem.
Unable to go past the Step #7 Waiting for device
Looks like manu users are facing this problem (after going through SuperOneClick website), but found no solution.
Currently I have unlocked by Bootloader with HTC-dev, and I want to root my stock rom and back it up before trying any other custom rom.
Any help or suggestions on this will be highly appreciated. This is my first post in xda-developers hope everyone will be kind to me :fingers-crossed:
My Device: HTC Desire S (Android 2.3.5 Stock Unrooted)
HBOOT 2.00.002 S-ON
Bootloader: HTC-Dev Unlocked

abhishek2386 said:
Sorry for digging up this old post, I am too suffering from the same problem.
Unable to go past the Step #7 Waiting for device
Looks like manu users are facing this problem (after going through SuperOneClick website), but found no solution.
Currently I have unlocked by Bootloader with HTC-dev, and I want to root my stock rom and back it up before trying any other custom rom.
Any help or suggestions on this will be highly appreciated. This is my first post in xda-developers hope everyone will be kind to me :fingers-crossed:
My Device: HTC Desire S (Android 2.3.5 Stock Unrooted)
HBOOT 2.00.002 S-ON
Bootloader: HTC-Dev Unlocked
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I am facing the same problem!! Help needed.. I am sick of HTC going back and forth on whether Desire S will get an ICS update or not, suggest a fully functional stable rom too

cnkapadia said:
I am facing the same problem!! Help needed.. I am sick of HTC going back and forth on whether Desire S will get an ICS update or not, suggest a fully functional stable rom too
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If you're just interested in getting an ICS on your device then you can try this steps as you've already unlocked the bootloader the HTC-Dev way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
You can use any ROM as per your choice, my personal preference is Fallout:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679125
Be sure to check and read the threads properly before you jump in.
Note for anyone who can help me: Please let me know if there is a way to ROOT HTC Desire S (HBOOT 2.00.0002) HTC-Dev unlocked, so that I can backup my stock ROM first before trying out the custom ROMs. Any help will be highly appreciated.

abhishek2386 said:
Note for anyone who can help me: Please let me know if there is a way to ROOT HTC Desire S (HBOOT 2.00.0002) HTC-Dev unlocked, so that I can backup my stock ROM first before trying out the custom ROMs. Any help will be highly appreciated.
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Install a custom recovery like 4EXT in the guide you posted and from there flash superuser. I've attached the file you need.

HTC One X AT&T 2.20 Firmware Stock boot.img file

I need the boot.img file for my phone At&t Htc one x with firmware 2.20 please
This is very important to me because my phone doesn't work .
Thank you so much .

If you're not rooted you could look for the 2.20 ruu and reflash it. Or better yet get your phone s-off and not have to worry bout flashing boot img's any more.
What the issue you're having there? When you say it won't boot, what's it doing?
Sent from my now S-Off HTC OneXL
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814217
Easy search...
Sent from my now S-Off HTC OneXL

redbike said:
I need the boot.img file for my phone At&t Htc one x with firmware 2.20 please
This is very important to me because my phone doesn't work .
Thank you so much .
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Did you flash any ROM and got stuck in boot loop? If so the boot.IMG will be inside the rom zip file itself

this is the stock boot_signed.img pulled out of the rom.zip for 2.20
link to the 2.20 ruu htc_one_x_RUU_2.20.502.7_att_us_08022012.exe a40cd830e8c57109d140e1e68e2d1328

I just got a htc one x and it was supposed to be unlocked, it's not and has viperXL on it so the unlock code is not working. Would this file put me back to 'stock' to unlock my sim?

unlocked bootloader is not the same as unlocked sim, so when you bought it unlocked the seller probably mean't the bootloader.

I was told it would work with tmobile - so i assumed that would of been a sim unlock. guess i was wrong. Either way I know nothing of this type of stuff and just want a working phone. searching posts it seems the sim unlock code will not work if it's not on a 'stock rom' but I dont have a copy of this because i didn't change it. It has viperXL 3.2.5 So if i'm comprehending all of this I need to get a bootloader and go back to a stock rom (?) Sorry this is really all new to me.

tweek69 said:
I was told it would work with tmobile - so i assumed that would of been a sim unlock. guess i was wrong. Either way I know nothing of this type of stuff and just want a working phone. searching posts it seems the sim unlock code will not work if it's not on a 'stock rom' but I dont have a copy of this because i didn't change it. It has viperXL 3.2.5 So if i'm comprehending all of this I need to get a bootloader and go back to a stock rom (?) Sorry this is really all new to me.
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it only has to be a sense rom which ViperXL is. there is no end user method to sim unlock without paying for it, so you'd have to buy an unlock code or ask the person you bought it from if he meant sim unlocked or bootloader unlocked.

I did purchase a unlock code and it didn't work. That's when I hound a post about someone saying they had issues when it wasn't on a 'stock' flash. Do you think the viper xl isn't the problem then? Cause if not I'd be more then happy to just leave it on

if you haven't got your unlock code to work you could try a more stockish sense rom like cleanrom

[Q] Telstra One XL Help.....

I was wondering if someone could help me? ... I recently acquired a Telstra Htc One XL and am having troubles trying to update.
Current stats
android 4.1.1
sense 4+
software 3.17.841.2
EVITA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
*****locked*****
CID-11111111
HBOOT 2.14.0000
RADIO- 0.23a.32.09.29
I'm 99.9% sure most testra one xl's are up to 4.2.2 with sense 5 which is i think two updates in front of mine
can anyone shed some light on my situation?

When you say you're having trouble updating what exactly do you mean?
Sent from my Evita

When i "Check for Updates" it tell me that there are no more updates.... when Im sure there are another two...

Are you in Australia?
Sent from my Evita

Sure am ... Good old city of churches" Adelaide" ..

timmaaa said:
Are you in Australia?
Sent from my Evita
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His profile says he is

Yeah, but still needed to check. Have you thought about re-unlocking your bootloader? It's been modified in the past which might have something to do with your update problem. If you unlock your bootloader you'll be able to install a custom recovery and then you can install whatever ROM you like. We have the stock Telstra Sense 5 Android 4.2.2 ROM in our development section. We also have a few other Sense 5 ROMs to choose from, ranging from stock to tweaked.
Sent from my Evita

The thing is that it hasnt been messed with.I got the phone from a HTC rep that i know ... he had it in his draw for over six months ...I just wanted the stock update but maybe rooting might be the easier way

It definitely has been messed with, phones that are s-off and have SuperCID don't come out of the factory like that. Somewhere along the way someone has done those alterations to the device.
There is just one problem I've realised, your phone has a SuperCID of 11111111 which has been blocked by htcdev. You're s-off though so you can actually change that as many times as you like using fastboot. If you want to unlock your phone you'll need to change it to 22222222 using the following fastboot command:
Code:
fastboot oem writecid 22222222
You can then check the new CID by using this command:
Code:
fastboot oem readcid
Once that's done you can go to htcdev and go through with the unlock bootloader process.
In order to do the above process you will need to install adb/fastboot and HTC drivers.
Sent from my Evita

No problem ... thanks for that ....I have rooted my one x before HTC_023 fairly basic but my mate swears that the phone came straight from HTC as a Tell us what you think before we send you more kind of thing .. Cheers for the info ...
Actually one more thing ... is it possible to do a RUU update with this to 4.2.2?

There is no RUU for 4.2.2, the only way is to run an earlier RUU and take OTA updates to get there. Since you can't get the OTA I guess that isn't an option though.
Sent from my Evita

grekojim said:
Sure am ... Good old city of churches" Adelaide" ..
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Within 30 minutes drive from me no doubt
Supercid and s-off from factory or not still means you are off the official path.
Things I might do:
fastboot oem writecid TELST001
Then try the OTA again
or
RUU back to 1.89.841.9 as a RUU exists for that, then ota forwards to 5.06.841.1
or
Unlock bootloader
Flash Turges 5.08 firmware zip and then take one of the Sense 5 ROMs. There is a stock Telstra ROM even.
PS nag the HTC rep for a more recent RUU, eg 2.40.841.4, 3.17.841.2, 3.17.841.9 or 5.06.841.1 and share with us
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timmaaa said:
Once that's done you can go to htcdev and go through with the unlock bootloader process.
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He has s-off does he need a token or even need to unlock at all?

I have often wondered the same thing, but I've been assuming that in order to flash TWRP recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
It's nice to see a few Aussies on here by the way, I'm in Melbourne myself.
Sent from my Evita

great ... trying the cid thing first ...

My phone from an att employee came s-off and with a locked boot loader as well. It just looks like that's how HTC and att do it.
Sent from my HTC One XL

Alright cid change didnt work ..now to find the 1.89.841.9 RUU

Click the link in my signature, from there you'll find a link to the HTC RUU thread.
Sent from my Evita

RUU links all changed and the index doesnt keep good track of the current RUU sites.
Try:
http://www.androidruu.com/?developer=Evita
http://www.androidruu.com/getdownlo...09.01_10.93a.32.20L_release_266699_signed.exe

Thank you heaps .....

Just in case .. i got the unlock code from htc deV But when my cid was 11111111 .....would that matter if i use that code now that my cis is telst001?

Sunshine S-OFF

I ran the test. The device passed the test. But I did not dare to go anymore. Is it possible to work? Sorry my bad English.

I recall in the U11 thread they said no.

You need unlock the bootloader and flash twrp and magisk after y can run the app and y will got a temoprary s-off so if y reboot your phone your phone will be s-on again.
But why need s-off?
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You need unlock the bootloader and flash twrp and magisk after y can run the app and y will got a temoprary s-off so if y reboot your phone your phone will be s-on again.
But why need s-off?

i had try this app once,and my phone(HTC,U11 PLUS,CHINESE MAINLAND VERSION)had passthrough the test.
after paying $25 to process s-off, screen turn black and system dump(suddenly power off),so i contact sunshine team to report my problem,and they refuned the money to me.
sunshine team said they can not patch HTC U11 PLUS to S-OFF now,because the model didn't sale in USA.

Any news on s-off?

Glower said:
Any news on s-off?
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I suppose not and won't be till SS developers obtain the phone (which is banned for sell in USA by Google itself as direct Pixel 2 competitor) to play to get s-off. So you can consider that won't happen...