This is my first Nexus device and I'm not sure on how OTA's work exactly, I never received any on my previous phones!
I unlocked the bootloader manually via fastbot oem unlock then flashed CMW via fastboot flash recovery recovery.img then installed the Chainfire SU .zip
I left everything else as stock because I only wanted root for Adblock to stop YouTube ads.
If I leave everything else stock will I still get OTA notifications and if I do, and I decide to install them, will everything work fine?
Thanks.
Also, quick question about the App that lets you double tap to wake. it says it is stock kernel but requires extra modules, how does this effect OTA's?
Please use search before posting. Question answered numerous times. Also please read the sticky at the top of this page / forum
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Thanks for that. I don't plan on making any more modifications
Can I just reflash the stock recovery.img and uninstall the SU app. Will that make OTA's flash fine?
Don't worry, when there's an update within a couple of days someone would have made a flashable zip for it
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Couple days? Its been a neck and neck race as to whether I get the roll out in my area or can download a zip from here first. OTA is probably the single biggest non issue I see brought up here.
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If I'm correct, rooting the phone without installing a custom recovery will still allow me to receive OTA updates, right?
In theory, yes, but I personally wouldn't attempt it as historically it used to cause issues
root does not stop OTA updates.
Custom recoveries do not stop OTA updates, you might just have to choose the OTA zip to update it.
if you modify the system files, install any mod, etc it will stop the OTA.
What if we use Chain Fire method
Using chain fire method we are just running the binaries and everything is stock. It will unlock the bootloader. Do you guys still suggest that we shouldnt root if we need to keep getting OTA.
There's a Handy "ota helpdesk" thread in general that covers all of this
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rootSU said:
There's a Handy "ota helpdesk" thread in general that covers all of this
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Took me a while, but I found it. I'm rooted and use Xposed, so I guess I'll have to manually update. Thanks for the help.
Sorry if I am no expert. But I rooted my phone on 4.4.2, today I got the 4.4.3 update, so I downloaded it. I use SuperSU, so I turned on the survival mode, which was meant to keep my phone rooted through the update.
I run stock rom with franco kernel. Now from what I understand, I can install OTA's but that usually would overwrite the root privileges and stuff. Anyways, so I turned on survival mode on SuperSU and ran the update. I was installing, and then got the Error Android icon, the phone eventually started back up after few minutes of that screen.
When I check my root access it's still there, however, under the version of the system it's still 4.4.2 and I don't see anymore updates.
Sorry if I am new to this, but can someone explain rather or not the update pushed through, if not is my system currently messed up in anyways? And what should I do from here in order to get 4.4.3 kitkat.
Thanks!
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Sorry if I am no expert. But I rooted my phone on 4.4.2, today I got the 4.4.3 update, so I downloaded it. I use SuperSU, so I turned on the survival mode, which was meant to keep my phone rooted through the update.
I run stock rom with franco kernel. Now from what I understand, I can install OTA's but that usually would overwrite the root privileges and stuff. Anyways, so I turned on survival mode on SuperSU and ran the update. I was installing, and then got the Error Android icon, the phone eventually started back up after few minutes of that screen.
When I check my root access it's still there, however, under the version of the system it's still 4.4.2 and I don't see anymore updates.
Sorry if I am new to this, but can someone explain rather or not the update pushed through, if not is my system currently messed up in anyways? And what should I do from here in order to get 4.4.3 kitkat.
Thanks!
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Your answer can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217. It is a Stickied Thread in the General section. Short answer: You need to flash the stock kernel or else the update will fail everytime. Give that thread a read (or at least the first post), and please search next time prior to posting.
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Your answer can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217. It is a Stickied Thread in the General section. Short answer: You need to flash the stock kernel or else the update will fail everytime. Give that thread a read (or at least the first post), and please search next time prior to posting.
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Thanks, and sorry new to the forum. But I will make sure to ready all the stickies.
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Thanks, and sorry new to the forum. But I will make sure to ready all the stickies.
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No worries. :good: You'd be surprised how many times I've done a search and realized there were plenty of other people that had been in the same exact type of sticky situation I had been in at the time. You can definitely learn a lot from the stickies. That's how I learned all the basics about ADB and Fastboot, which is why I prefer to flash everything manually instead of using toolkits. There are some pretty knowledgeable people roaming these here forums.
Welcome to XDA!
Just flash it as a flashable zip in recovery (found in development forum by vomer)
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Hey there!
I was wondering if rooting via towelroot would affect OTA updates? Someone told me you don't get OTA if the system files, bootloader or kernel have been changed. I am completely on stock now. Will apps like Droidwall, Titanium Backup or Greenify make any changes to the system files, hence rendering my phone not eligible for OTA?
Thanks
Read the OTA helpdesk thread about OTA. Link in my signature. Those apps should be fine but you should root properly and use a custom recovery of you're going to be rooted and forget about OTAs.
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I agree! Being rooted without a custom recovery and/or not knowing how to use adb/fastboot is almost asking for trouble.
@rootSU gave you the best info.
You have a Nexus. You can flash stock in minutes when you need to do an ota. Or forget that and flash the update through fastboot. I've never taken an OTA on any device.
Thanks for the replies folks. I just dont feel like unlocking my bootloader at this very moment since there's stuff to backup and I am at the peak of my laziness ( and also very busy to do stuff with my phone)
Edit: Yeah, I sideloaded the 4.4.4 update. Can I sideload any update like this in the future even if I don't receive automatic updates? (i.e doesn't sideload verify that all original files are intact?)
Probably best avoid root in that case then.
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Nice. You relax and we'll figure it out? That's not how XDA works my friend. Ask for help, put some effort in after you get answers. That's how it works.
I'd leave the phone as is and call it a day.
The question has been answered and the thread is going the wrong direction, so I'm going to stop it here.
@Moonheart All the info about OTA's are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217
It outlines what you need to do and how to prepare your phone for updates.
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Hi guys, have the moto g xt1039 version, tried Cm11 but right now with stock firmware, root permission and unlocked bootloader of course.
Right now there's a new update, i tried to do that via Wi-fi but it fails, and as i knew and as they told me, can't do this because of booloader and root.
So, any suggestions? The phone continues to notify me there's an update. What can i do? Flash a new stock rom, updated? Or remove root permission and lock the bootloader again?
Please, leave here some links. Thanks a lot.
Just freeze MotorolaOTA via Titanium or remove it and you won't receive any messages about new update. Or, you can restore your phone to stock and receive update and then install root, recovery, etc. Just read general section of Moto G forum, topic about restore to stock it sticked.
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Silly question and i'm late, but want to thank kirokko.
Thanks again.
hey guys.
my device is stock and rooted (used exposed mods) - when Loli comes out, will i be able to just update automatically?
or will i need to wait for a rooted file to be uploaded here (like i did when i wanted to go from 4.4.2 => 4.4.4), DL and flash it manually?
thanks.
Any modifications to /system will prevent OTA from flashing. So if you're stock + Xposed, no, you can't just update automatically. Either go back to complete stock and take OTA or wait for flashable ROM zips.
RoyJ said:
Any modifications to /system will prevent OTA from flashing. So if you're stock + Xposed, no, you can't just update automatically. Either go back to complete stock and take OTA or wait for flashable ROM zips.
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^^^ This...
and henceforth please post in the existing OTA thread itself:
[INFO] Nexus 5 OTA Help-Desk
What if my N5 is rooted and I've tried some xposed mods but removed them? Is there still some modified system files or do I only lose root on update?
Take a look at the link posted 1 reply before yours...
What about flashing that new firmware when it comes over stock rooted?Is that possible?
You guys all need to seriously read the Sticky/FAQ threads. All of these questions have been asked and answered. For years now, actually. It's the same deal every year on every Nexus phone. Upgrading to a new Android OS is nothing new and it's the same procedure every time. Read the FAQ's.
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^^^ This...
and henceforth please post in the existing OTA thread itself:
[INFO] Nexus 5 OTA Help-Desk
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got it =)
i didn't post it there since, well, as you guys said it i figured (wrongly) can't use OTA, so why post in it's thread?
now i realize the thread is pretty much mainly for people who CANT just update OTA.
next time for sure will post in the right place