I have come to the N5 from a Samsung device, where if you flashed a kernel meant for a (Samsung) stock ROM onto a CM/AOSP/AOKP ROM, you would stand a good chance of bricking your phone.
Are there any similar incompatibilities between stock-based and CM-based ROMs which apply with the N5? Or can I flash any of the kernels which are available onto the CM-based (DroidKang v5) ROM I'm running?
If not, please can you explain why not and what I should be looking for in the kernel thread OP to indicate this.
Having briefly looked at a few kernel dev threads, there seems to be nothing to indicate a problem with flashing on either CM or stock.
Thanks in advance!
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Bumping to try and get a reply from some kind, knowledgeable soul!
Since I originally posted I have tried flashing Bricked-Kernel, which failed. So am I stuck with using the current kernel that came with my CM-based ROM, unless I flash a new stock-based ROM?
Still not got a full answer to my question, but am now using Bricked-Kernel, which so far I'm very happy with
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I have come to the N5 from a Samsung device, where if you flashed a kernel meant for a (Samsung) stock ROM onto a CM/AOSP/AOKP ROM, you would stand a good chance of bricking your phone.
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I come from a samsung phone and there was no chance of bricking my device by flashing the wrong type of kernel, so long as its from the same phone. Bricks come from flashing roms,.kernels, radios, bootloaders and recoveries from other phones
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ok so in the past i have had HTC devices and Samsung devices.. and when there is a OTA sent out we always had to either unroot and flash back to complete stock to take the OTA.. Or wait for a dev to make a firwmware/radio zip with the junk takin out... so then i would just have to flash that and then flash a rom thats on the new OTA and i would be good.. So my question is how does this work on nexus phones? say google sends us an OTA.. how would i go about updating my phone to the new base? would i wait for a dev to make a zip with the new firmware/radio?? or does just flashing a rom thats on the new base work also cause i really dont want to unroot to take an OTA.. if i have i i guess i will... so how do us rooted folks update when a new OTA comes along
I would just wait for a rooted rom of the update and flash that.
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You need a stock recovery and nothing more than root only. Any modifications to the rom what so ever, do NOT OTA.
There's an OTA helpdesk thread here somewhere that can help you
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I would just wait for a rooted rom of the update and flash that.
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thats what im asking.. on other phone u would have to flash a fiwmware/radio zip that a dev would make.. then flash the new ota rom... so your saying that when a OTA comes all i have to do is flash a rom that the OTA is based from?? i dont have to flash a new firmware or radio??
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You need a stock recovery and nothing more than root only. Any modifications to the rom what so ever, do NOT OTA.
There's an OTA helpdesk thread here somewhere that can help you
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so what happens when google send out a new OTA... how would i go about updting to it?? do i have to wait for a dev to make a firmwre/radio zip for rooted people??? or is it deffernt with nexus phones??
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thats what im asking.. on other phone u would have to flash a fiwmware/radio zip that a dev would make.. then flash the new ota rom... so your saying that when a OTA comes all i have to do is flash a rom that the OTA is based from?? i dont have to flash a new firmware or radio??
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You should never have to flash a radio if you don't want.
It gets confusing when you use the word firmware though. Most android handset manufacturers will refer to a rom as firmware. Although to me, this is technically incorrect - im not going to argue with them.
However, some US carriers for some phones deliver their updates in "firmware" and / or "apps". This confuses people even more so I prefer not to use "firmware" as a term.
An OTA update could include any of the following
- bootloader
- recovery
- radio
- kernel
- apps
- part of the rom
Every ota is added to an updated full rom though so if rooted, best sticking with those
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You need a stock recovery and nothing more than root only. Any modifications to the rom what so ever, do NOT OTA.
There's an OTA helpdesk thread here somewhere that can help you
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thats not entirely true.
you can still have a custom recovery, but when the OTA asks you to reboot to install, it only takes you to the recovery screen and you need to find the file and flash it manually.
it will install fine however using a custom recovery.
i still dont understand.. what i have to do when a OTA comes.. how do i update my nexus to the new OTA?? so i just flash a rom thats on the OTA thats it?
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i still dont understand.. what i have to do when a OTA comes.. how do i update my nexus to the new OTA?? so i just flash a rom thats on the OTA thats it?
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it depends on how much modding you have done to your phone.
1) just root and still stock recovery - nothing it will download and install properly
2) just root AND custom recovery - it will download correctly, but when the phone reboots to install, you will need to manually find the OTA file and install it
3) any system modifications - the ota will not install and you will need to go back to the stock rom
4) custom rom installed - you need to either a) wait for the rom to be updated to the OTA version or b) return to stock.
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thats not entirely true.
you can still have a custom recovery, but when the OTA asks you to reboot to install, it only takes you to the recovery screen and you need to find the file and flash it manually.
it will install fine however using a custom recovery.
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Yes this I know but an ota also can include an updated recovery. Im trying mainly to convey ota +root not a good idea if you don't know what you're doing
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it depends on how much modding you have done to your phone.
1) just root and still stock recovery - nothing it will download and install properly
2) just root AND custom recovery - it will download correctly, but when the phone reboots to install, you will need to manually find the OTA file and install it
3) any system modifications - the ota will not install and you will need to go back to the stock rom
4) custom rom installed - you need to either a) wait for the rom to be updated to the OTA version or b) return to stock.
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thanks.. so this is waaayyy dif then any phone i ever had b4... i had the gs4 and the htc one... dont kno if u ever had any of them phone but when an OTA was sent out... i was always rooted with custom recovery/rom... so what we would have to do is... wait for a dev to make a zip for rooted folks.. they would take out the stock recovery and anything else that would change the hboot..... so i would just flash that zip with would have new firmware/radio/prl ect.. then i would flash a rom that based on the new OTA...im rooted custom rom.. custom recovery.. if and when a OTA comes... all i have to do to udate to the new ota is wait for the rom dev to make the rom on the new ota and im good.. that seems so easy!! it was always a project on other phones.. u could never just flash the new ota rom thats it.. u would have to flash a zip with firwmware/radio/prl ect.. so when google send a OTA out with a new radio.. i dont need to uodate my phone to that radio? it will be in the rom thats on the new ota?
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thanks.. so this is waaayyy dif then any phone i ever had b4... i had the gs4 and the htc one... dont kno if u ever had any of them phone but when an OTA was sent out... i was always rooted with custom recovery/rom... so what we would have to do is... wait for a dev to make a zip for rooted folks
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No that's exactly the same. If you have a CUSTOM rom, wait for dev to update his rom and flash it.
If you have a stock rooted but unmodified rom, you can have ota (but wouldn't recommend it). This is same as S4, S3 etc...
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No that's exactly the same. If you have a CUSTOM rom, wait for dev to update his rom and flash it.
If you have a stock rooted but unmodified rom, you can have ota (but wouldn't recommend it). This is same as S4, S3 etc...
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s4 i had to flash the radio sperate
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No that's exactly the same. If you have a CUSTOM rom, wait for dev to update his rom and flash it.
If you have a stock rooted but unmodified rom, you can have ota (but wouldn't recommend it). This is same as S4, S3 etc...
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on the s4 u cant just flash the rom that on the new OTA and thats it... i had to flash a firmware/radio zip.. then u flash the rom thats on the new ota
Im all set now!! LiquidSolstice spit his knowledge to me.. now i understand how it works on nexus phones... alot diff then htc..samsung.. thanks LiquidSolstice:good:
Hmmm much confusion in this thread. I come from Samsung and HTC. What I have said is universal. I cannot understand what you have read to the contrary so lets just forget it now - but in regards to flashing custom roms, flashing radios and receiving OTA updates - the principles of this phone are the same as every other android phone.
Probably have a read of the sticky thread at the top of the q&a. Lots of root information to help understand things
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I love my OnePlus One and find CM11s to be very good, but I am thinking about flashing other ROMs on it to try them out. What do you guys think and what ROM would you recommend? I am thinking about Slimrom as my first ROM to flash.
I tried other roms, but keep going back to CM11S, just like it better. Battery life seems to be better too on CM11S, but I haven't taken the time to go back and flash kernels on other roms and what not.
I'm holding off.. I know I can't stop romhopping if I start flashing
I honestly am quite satisfied with the stock rom. With root, and a few mods, I'm all set!
Well I'm not flashing other roms, just kernels, and the result still stock kernel is best for me.
When I tried other kernels, my device got the ghost touch, and when I switched back to stock kernel, the ghost is gone.
I got ghost with stock..:/
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I got ghost with stock..:/
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Try AK kernel with UKM and synapse.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/orig-development/kernel-ak-t2832168
Regards!
I'm not sure if you guys are aware, but these kind of 'which ROM/kernel is best/recommended' threads aren't allowed on XDA.
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[Q&A] UPDATED 9/30 [ROM][P900][P900UEU1BNI2] Original Stock and Debloated Stock Vari
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will it work on SM-P901 ?
i really like to try the debloated version,
my stock rom is a bit laggy for me
will it work on SM-P901 version?
i really hope it work
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i really like to try the debloated version,
my stock rom is a bit laggy for me
will it work on SM-P901 version?
i really hope it work
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I do not feel completely confident it would work , not enough to tell you to take that risk.
Although they do appear to have the exact same hardware chip wise (the cpu/gpu are identical) I would need someone who is rooted on the 901 to check that the partition tables are identical to the sm-p900. The biggest one being that /boot is still mmcblk0p9. If /boot was set to the wrong block because they are slightly different you would end up with a bricked tablet, which would be awful. There is also the unknown of different parts in the firmware to account for the sm-p901 having 3g support while the sm-p900 is only wifi.
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i really like to try the debloated version,
my stock rom is a bit laggy for me
will it work on SM-P901 version?
i really hope it work
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I think it will work, but you need to replace kernel (boot.img file) from your tab
edit: possibly not. I didnt find any libs with 3g support in p900 rom...
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I think it will work, but you need to replace kernel (boot.img file) from your tab
edit: possibly not. I didnt find any libs with 3g support in p900 rom...
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That was my other fear. It may flash onto it fine if the /boot is the same, but I have not seen any support for the 3g service part of it.
Will any firmware updates coming soon to this wonderful rom?
Can you add widgets to the lockscreen?
OTA and new kernal - Gatsrom's ROM
I have been using the debloated stock variation of Gatsrom's rom and love it. I also use Xposed framework. When Samsung pushes a new OTA I don't want it to screw up the Rom. Will the new OTA be blocked or is there something I need to do to block the OTA? Second question: there is discussion in the original thread about changing kernels. What is the benefit for a non-developer or non-heavy tweaker for changing kernels.
Great ROM!
Keith
Really need some help guys ive followed the install details and install twrp with odin.
Tired both roms and on reboot it just sits on the Samsung logo screen.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks, you saved me!
Gat, I rooted my None Pro 12.2 P-900. Then got Twerp up and running and put Cm 12 on. Did not like it and it was buggy. My Samsung tablet mouse and Samsung Blue tooth keyboard lost some functionality. Could not unmount flash drive which I use anew OTG cable to read the drive... leta just say I was not in a good place. Found your thread here on XDA and decided to download your Ron and flash. Had trouble the first few times, but finally am up and running thanks to you. The Cm 12 fried my 120gb micro sd, but that versus the thought of bricking this device is a small price to pay. I am out an sd but still have a functioning note pro. Cm 12 was an awful experience for a first time rooter and rom flasher. You saved me and I would like to personally thank you.
Sincerely,
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Hey guys I've had my g3 rooted for a couple months now and I have yet to find a really good ROM to use cm12 was to buggy and grew tired of nightlies. Liquidsmooth was really good only issue I had was Skype and hangouts. I'm on candy5 latest build now and I'm getting a lot of glitches, force closes, etc. I've clean installed the last 2 roms and experience problems. If Liquidsmooth didn't have that Skype issue I would probably stuck to it. Any ROM suggestions?
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Hey guys I've had my g3 rooted for a couple months now and I have yet to find a really good ROM to use cm12 was to buggy and grew tired of nightlies. Liquidsmooth was really good only issue I had was Skype and hangouts. I'm on candy5 latest build now and I'm getting a lot of glitches, force closes, etc. I've clean installed the last 2 roms and experience problems. If Liquidsmooth didn't have that Skype issue I would probably stuck to it. Any ROM suggestions?
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For the most part, all the AOSP Roms like the ones you received will have similar bugs until they are ironed out over time. The least buggy Roms are those based of the lg ROM. Right now there are only 2 stock lg lollipop Roms. Both of them are very stable however they're basically just rooted versions of the stock lollipop ROM.
I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
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I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
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Seriously..... Go to Android Development section
2SHAYNEZ
Nexus.S said:
I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
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[ROM][STOCK][BUMP'd] LG D850 20F Lollipop 5.0.1 (+ extras)
TekROM - D850 - Stock 20f - Lollipop - Deodex/Root/Busybox
Keep in mind both still have all that carrier bloat we love to hate. I use the first rom without issue and debloated it myself using titanium backup.
I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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It's because the development took and still takes lots of work. The devs had a lot of work just to root Lollipop, then to flash twrp. But I also do think that between all roms available (including KK roms and LP roms) we don't have as many as other devices from the same gen have. Heck, I had my Galaxy S3 and there were ports for everything. Can't complain though, between the stock ones and illusion (talking my preferences), I feel complete.
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I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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For KitKat, there's plenty of ROMs available, partially due to the fact that porting D855 ROMs was cake (swap out kernel and modules, and you're golden). That's why there weren't too many D850-specific ROMs.
On LP, there's a new handshake process between ROM and kernel, so we can't do that...yet. I feel like "development" on ROMs as a result is going to be hindered, since there's hope that the process will get cracked, then we can just port straight from D855 with little effort. Otherwise, if we have to mess about with the D85020f base, it'll take much more time.
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For KitKat, there's plenty of ROMs available, partially due to the fact that porting D855 ROMs was cake (swap out kernel and modules, and you're golden). That's why there weren't too many D850-specific ROMs.
On LP, there's a new handshake process between ROM and kernel, so we can't do that...yet. I feel like "development" on ROMs as a result is going to be hindered, since there's hope that the process will get cracked, then we can just port straight from D855 with little effort. Otherwise, if we have to mess about with the D85020f base, it'll take much more time.
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Gotcha, I wonder if this is being worked on. If so do you know of a thread where progress could be tracked?
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Gotcha, I wonder if this is being worked on. If so do you know of a thread where progress could be tracked?
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@Spz0 has been talking about this as of late in his OA855-5 ROM thread, as he is readying to move the ROM to Lollipop.
The defacto LG standard ROM of many, CloudyG3 by @Cloudyfa, also will inevitably jump on this bandwagon, but he hasn't been spotted in a while. He's probably just busy or something.
Not sure why this thread even exists.. this subject has been discussed ad nauseam in the Lounge.
@Nexus.S the question you've asked is one that will never offer ONE end all solid answer. It is truly a case of "to each his own". You need to continue doing what you were doing and try obe that fits all of your needs.
There are literally hundreds of users that have commented on every rom available for this device. Asking there will get you quicker answers, rather then waiting for people to find your thread and post something witty.
Threads of this type end up being nothing more then, OT threads.
Please check the index (found HERE) which lists all the roms for this device.
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[ROM][STOCK][BUMP'd] LG D850 20F Lollipop 5.0.1 (+ extras)
TekROM - D850 - Stock 20f - Lollipop - Deodex/Root/Busybox
Keep in mind both still have all that carrier bloat we love to hate. I use the first rom without issue and debloated it myself using titanium backup.
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I can also vouch for the first one. In fact, I was far less aggressive with debloating and have skipped xposed for now... and it's more stable, better battery life and (IMO) a better UI.
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Beanstalk. Enough said.
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Not sure why this thread even exists.. this subject has been discussed ad nauseam in the Lounge.
@Nexus.S the question you've asked is one that will never offer ONE end all solid answer. It is truly a case of "to each his own". You need to continue doing what you were doing and try obe that fits all of your needs.
There are literally hundreds of users that have commented on every rom available for this device. Asking there will get you quicker answers, rather then waiting for people to find your thread and post something witty.
Threads of this type end up being nothing more then, OT threads.
Please check the index (found HERE) which lists all the roms for this device.
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True. For some it's more the 'personal process' of discussion with others that seems important, and less the strict data/direct content of the discussion.
resurrection remix 5.0.2 is a really great rom i had doubts because it was based off of cm but i was impressed
I know flashing a kernel with rom of wrong baseband version can brick the phone often making it not recoverable( I guess). But is this the same with custom rom? I havent experimented it n dont even want to risk my phone. I m asking just out of curiousity.
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Flashing kernels is usually more dangerous than roms. But roms often include a kernel. So just make sure whatever you flash is for your specific device.
Question answered, thread closed.