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[Q] New System Update XT1080

Should I take the new system update that I just got? I just received a notification saying that there is one. Should I leave it alone or not? I am not rooted on 4.4 KitKat.

Dreadlord12p said:
Should I take the new system update that I just got? I just received a notification saying that there is one. Should I leave it alone or not? I am not rooted on 4.4 KitKat.
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well.
if u are not rooted,u can try it.
u can downgrade if u don t like it

danger2u said:
well.
if u are not rooted,u can try it.
u can downgrade if u don t like it
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Well I really hope that what someone told me in the past that jcase would have an exploit by the Summer, is true. Because I accidently bricked my phone months ago and screwed me back to 4.4 KiKat non-rooted. I just hope someone out there is working on finding another exploit.

Dreadlord12p said:
Well I really hope that what someone told me in the past that jcase would have an exploit by the Summer, is true. Because I accidently bricked my phone months ago and screwed me back to 4.4 KiKat non-rooted. I just hope someone out there is working on finding another exploit.
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i hope too
but jcase just tell me this day on Twitter that it doesn t work on root or BL unlock for Droid Maxx

It's well documented that the jcase method won't be useful for end-users.
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I have a question about this new update.... If all I have done is flash twrp and root.... Could I still take the update? I have been deferring it for a few days because I wasn't sure if I could or not.

Lordomn said:
I have a question about this new update.... If all I have done is flash twrp and root.... Could I still take the update? I have been deferring it for a few days because I wasn't sure if I could or not.
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Yeah easily. See my post in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755794
updating rooted dev edition droid maxx?
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No I'm updating my ultra.

Caseyk621 said:
Yeah easily. See my post in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755794
updating rooted dev edition droid maxx?
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Think that was part of the title. I wasn't asking that bro. Lol
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My bad. Just read it wrong I guess...the "updating rooted Dev edition droid maxx.?" looked like you were asking me if that's what I was updating. Lol o well

I really hope that jcase or someone is trying to find a new root method for the droid ultra. I miss my rooted phone so much!

Dreadlord12p said:
I really hope that jcase or someone is trying to find a new root method for the droid ultra. I miss my rooted phone so much!
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Probably the someone. I know it was just a tweet, so maybe he was joking, but jcase tweeted about a month ago that he will no longer be providing anybody with any *unpatched* exploits. Based on the way people complain about him not "sharing" any exploits he has, I don't blame him. Anyway, I'd pin my hopes on somebody else.
Or, better yet, put the phone up on Swappa or something and go out and buy a developer edition of something, because that's your surest bet that you'll be able to root a phone going forward.

doogald said:
Probably the someone. I know it was just a tweet, so maybe he was joking, but jcase tweeted about a month ago that he will no longer be providing anybody with any *unpatched* exploits. Based on the way people complain about him not "sharing" any exploits he has, I don't blame him. Anyway, I'd pin my hopes on somebody else.
Or, better yet, put the phone up on Swappa or something and go out and buy a developer edition of something, because that's your surest bet that you'll be able to root a phone going forward.
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So your saying jcase probably has an exploit or two but he just doesn't want to release it to the public? Lol. That's messed up! I guess its just a waiting game until somebody else out there puts out an exploit for us non-rooters to use. *sigh* :/
P.S. : What do you mean you don't blame him???

Dreadlord12p said:
So your saying jcase probably has an exploit or two but he just doesn't want to release it to the public? Lol. That's messed up! I guess its just a waiting game until somebody else out there puts out an exploit for us non-rooters to use. *sigh* :/
P.S. : What do you mean you don't blame him???
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I didn't say he had any exploits. I reported what he tweeted: he will not share any unpatched exploits. That means, I am pretty sure, that if he has any exploits (for any phones), he will wait until they are patched with an update before he shares it publicly, if he shares it at all, making it rather useless for somebody looking to root the phone with the exploit.
Here is the tweet: https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/460157450318929920
I am pretty sure it was in reference to a non-Moto device, but I'm sure he means the same for any device.

OK, here's a perfect example. Read this whole Twitter conversation between Jcase and some tool who thinks he's entitled to a root exploit.
https://mobile.twitter.com/spc_hicks09/status/473484675562749952

This topic of Jcase having an exploit had been covered many times if not mistaken. Is this helpful to the OP to keep hashing this out.
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doogald said:
OK, here's a perfect example. Read this whole Twitter conversation between Jcase and some tool who thinks he's entitled to a root exploit.
https://mobile.twitter.com/spc_hicks09/status/473484675562749952
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Seems like pure stubbornness to me.

Hey, look, because of the 4.4.3 update, Jcase ended up releasing the root exploit after all. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53129908&postcount=248

[Q] OTA 186.43.15 Let's Lay This Question To Rest...

...As I'm sure many others like me will visit this forum, read guide disclaimers, and still ask themselves "is it really true??"
If we accept the latest OTA (186.43.15) WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader, we are screwed. There is absolutely, positively, nothing that can be done (hacking, version rollback, etc.) with the phone forever. The bootloader has been locked and we're stuck with what we've got. No way to unlock it now.
So, is it really true? Please say it ain't so.

Yes, it is true, at least with the Motopocalypse method. There are other ways to bootloader unlock phones such as Sunshine, but I think that only supports newer Motorola devices.
http://theroot.ninja/
Also, you have to be rooted. If Towelroot doesn't work on the latest OTA (no idea if it does or not) then you'd have to wait for a new exploit.

Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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TheAscension said:
Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.

iBolski said:
Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.

TheAscension said:
That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.

iBolski said:
Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.
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She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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TheAscension said:
She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.

TheAscension said:
That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.

palmbeach05 said:
Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.
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Thanks for the heads up!
iBolski said:
Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.
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She actually hasn't been happy with her XT926, so I think I might just buy a used phone of the same generation and mod it. If successful, we'll just swap the hacked one onto her account. I'm thinking Galaxy S3? I'd be curious to know what the "most hackable" phone of that generation is (JB or early KK)? Or should I post that question in the XDA General? I've searched and haven't found that question asked.

Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?

jacek607 said:
Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?
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Did you boot it into fastboot mode and ensure whether it's already been unlocked or not? You might get lucky if they already unlocked it.

I've checked it - it is locked :/

jacek607 said:
I've checked it - it is locked :/
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Bummer.

Is anybody working on method of unlock the bootloader and root for razr maxx hd with 183.46.15?

no

Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?

farid2014 said:
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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farid2014 said:
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Sure as long as you are already unlocked.
Edit, I didn't see Rik's post, same answer, different angle lol

RikRong said:
Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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I have the code : 3 that means I can down grade right?
Thanks

PLEASE!!!!

Do not take the new EYE update if you have yet to root and unlock your phone. I suggest you do so now and do not want to have to see a bounty to get root and unlock back.
JCASE has stated that there is possibly a patch to prevent sunshine from unlocking your phone. Please do not take the update if you want to root and unlock your phone.
Thank you!!

lucky_strike33 said:
Do not take the new EYE update if you have yet to root and unlock your phone. I suggest you do so now and do not want to have to see a bounty to get root and unlock back.
JCASE has stated that there is possibly a patch to prevent sunshine from unlocking your phone. Please do not take the update if you want to root and unlock your phone.
Thank you!!
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Thank you for that public service announcement. Now if I could please have a dollar bill for everyone who takes the OTA then posts here and on Q&A that they've lost root, etc. etc. etc. :laugh:

lucky_strike33 said:
Do not take the new EYE update if you have yet to root and unlock your phone. I suggest you do so now and do not want to have to see a bounty to get root and unlock back.
JCASE has stated that there is possibly a patch to prevent sunshine from unlocking your phone. Please do not take the update if you want to root and unlock your phone.
Thank you!!
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And for everyone complaining about the cost of Sunshine,JUST BITE THE BULLET N DO IT! IT'S WELL WORTH IT! IF YOU'RE ON A HIGHER FIRMWARE,your Gonna spend more than$25 worth of man hours TRYING (almost positively unsuccessfully) to find a free way, and most of the free routes died with the older firmware. JCase n Beaups have done a great job,and once u use sunshine on your device,no OTA can take away S-off or an unlocked boot loader ,they may kill root, but as long as your s-off ,that's an easy fix. So to save yourself future aggrevation ,just get it now while u STILL CAN

I haven't gotten around yet to using sunshine. Can anyone confirm whether or not the update breaks the ability to use sunshine? I haven't seen it posted yet...
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hgoldner said:
Now if I could please have a dollar bill for everyone who takes the OTA then posts here and on Q&A that they've lost root, etc. etc. etc. :laugh:
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That would be a good deal because you KNOW they will lol

Someone posted in the weaksauce thread that sunshine is not working on vzw 4.4.4. So that's the answer I'm going with...
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Tempted to try sunshine myself to see.

Unlock bootloader on Galaxy S5, it may come true!!!

Hi all,
Please read this news and share your opinions and keep our fingers crossed....
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/

ive been waiting over a year for this this is awesome cant wait wait to get a nice custom rom onto this phone

I hate one of the responses on the video. "Verizon would pay more for this than any user would." I'll donate seriously if this was released. Would no longer have to bug my boss to upgrade to the Nexus 6 just so I can do what I want with my phone.

l4nc3r said:
I hate one of the responses on the video. "Verizon would pay more for this than any user would." I'll donate seriously if this was released. Would no longer have to bug my boss to upgrade to the Nexus 6 just so I can do what I want with my phone.
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I am completely psyched for this!! I passed on a galaxy s6 just so I could still use my microsd card from my htc one remix, and I passed on a g4 for the fingerprint scanner so this is awesome news for this device, I would love to use cyanogenmod on here and its a definite positive knowing that once this is released, I can use marshmallow before its official ota release too! Plus the chance of this phone becoming dead in the forums will be slim to nothing once this is released, this is absolutely amazing news in my opinion. I don't care if they charge to unlock the bootloader or not, I'll be one of the first too pay to get mine unlocked and then I can be one of the cool kids with roms again lol ?
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And the Verizon would pay quote I think is bs, they're making money either way, they could care less.

I hope it works. I have the dev edition and development is getting stale. This would open up a lot more development, assuming the devs haven't already abandoned this phone.

Only a few more months with the phone, why not go out in style! Hope this is true.

And they're probably going to sit on this and never do anything with it, or worse, sell the exploit to Samsung/Verizon. :/

Does this mean those of us who have unrooted, stock OG5 builds might also get root? Normally root comes first, then maybe unlocking the boot loader, correct? I am noob, but was hoping an unlocked boot loader might make a root exploit easier as well. Am I crazy?
Root, with the unlocked bootloader, would mean I could finally get out of my stock Verizon rom (when I'm on a t mobile mvno).

penglish said:
Does this mean those of us who have unrooted, stock OG5 builds might also get root? Normally root comes first, then maybe unlocking the boot loader, correct? I am noob, but was hoping an unlocked boot loader might make a root exploit easier as well. Am I crazy?
Root, with the unlocked bootloader, would mean I could finally get out of my stock Verizon rom (when I'm on a t mobile mvno).
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It depends on what the unlock method requires. If it needs root then it won't work. If it doesn't need root then it's likely that OG5 will be able to unlock.
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@beaups can you supply us with any info on a possible public release?

penglish said:
Does this mean those of us who have unrooted, stock OG5 builds might also get root? Normally root comes first, then maybe unlocking the boot loader, correct? I am noob, but was hoping an unlocked boot loader might make a root exploit easier as well. Am I crazy?
Root, with the unlocked bootloader, would mean I could finally get out of my stock Verizon rom (when I'm on a t mobile mvno).
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Once bootloader is unlocked, the possibility is unlimited, any custom roms can be flash and root is just a piece of cake. If the bootloader is unlocked, we can flash a custom kernel where it allowed to root....at will. ...

And i just saw this comment and it made me sad.

Vekter said:
And they're probably going to sit on this and never do anything with it, or worse, sell the exploit to Samsung/Verizon. :/
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If OEMs or Carriers bought exploits, I would be rich and no longer be posting on XDA. They don't.

According to what he's actually doing on the computer via ADB, he's using root commands which means it may require root. This is only speculation though because he does flash a bootloader file via Odin too and obviously you don't need root for Odin.
So essentially it could just be as easy as flashing a bootloader file via Odin.

jcase said:
If OEMs or Carriers bought exploits, I would be rich and no longer be posting on XDA. They don't.
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Do you know if it'll be released?
It should be packed into something like sunshine or mofo, my two cents is that developers who find exploits should take money for it because if not you get burnt out easily.

Newyork! said:
Do you know if it'll be released?
It should be packed into something like sunshine or mofo, my two cents is that developers who find exploits should take money for it because if not you get burnt out easily.
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I'm told he has no plans to release it.

jcase said:
I'm told he has no plans to release it.
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Ouch. It's sad that the news regarding this got out to the general community like it did. It's tough pill to swallow for me, but I can understand why beaups would keep it private. No need to rage guys, but it does stink when things like this can't be released even with a giant warning label slapped on it..
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jcase said:
I'm told he has no plans to release it.
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well thats just terrible lol. dont you just love showing the world just to not release it lol. but oh well, his work to make that decision and he has spoken lol
i got rid of my s5 anyways back in April
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jcase said:
I'm told he has no plans to release it.
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That kinda really sucks, this will kill the s5's life

jcase said:
If OEMs or Carriers bought exploits, I would be rich and no longer be posting on XDA. They don't.
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I know someone who could pay for your exploits. Look here https://mobile.twitter.com/Zerodium/status/644107653745016832

iamdude said:
I know someone who could pay for your exploits. Look here https://mobile.twitter.com/Zerodium/status/644107653745016832
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I have my own customers, middle men take a % and keep me from knowing where things go but thanks.

Possible Root & S-Off? Downgrade?

Been a while since I been on xda. I been using my htc m8 from Verizon. It's a great phone. Is sunshine really worth 25$..? I been looking up apps and other stuff to see if I can still root and get s-off.. but it hit me, can I just downgrade to the orignal version? (out the box software) Then get a s-off? I'm running on the 6.0 marshmallow. It's gotta be possible I just wanna get this thing called rooted already. :good:

Multidex24 said:
Been a while since I been on xda. I been using my htc m8 from Verizon. It's a great phone. Is sunshine really worth 25$..? I been looking up apps and other stuff to see if I can still root and get s-off.. but it hit me, can I just downgrade to the orignal version? (out the box software) Then get a s-off? I'm running on the 6.0 marshmallow. It's gotta be possible I just wanna get this thing called rooted already. :good:
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Sunshine is the only option. I highly suggest paying $25.
It's a more than fair price. (Think about the number of devices they make paperweights providing us this option. Also they are the only option . You can ship it out to a Java card, but that's shipping fees and paying to use the card unless you're friends with them and do it for free, and even then shipping is prob more than $25..
Save up and enjoy the unlocked device thanks to sunshine. If you can't afford it, that is something you will need to figure out.
Best of luck!

theres also weaksauce... can I just do that
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Multidex24 said:
theres also weaksauce... can I just do that
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Weaksauce has been discontinued. You may be able to dig up the file somewhere but the server side has been taken down so it will never work. Sunshine is your option and it's worth it.