...As I'm sure many others like me will visit this forum, read guide disclaimers, and still ask themselves "is it really true??"
If we accept the latest OTA (186.43.15) WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader, we are screwed. There is absolutely, positively, nothing that can be done (hacking, version rollback, etc.) with the phone forever. The bootloader has been locked and we're stuck with what we've got. No way to unlock it now.
So, is it really true? Please say it ain't so.
Yes, it is true, at least with the Motopocalypse method. There are other ways to bootloader unlock phones such as Sunshine, but I think that only supports newer Motorola devices.
http://theroot.ninja/
Also, you have to be rooted. If Towelroot doesn't work on the latest OTA (no idea if it does or not) then you'd have to wait for a new exploit.
Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.
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Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.
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Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.
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She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.
TheAscension said:
That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.
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Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.
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She actually hasn't been happy with her XT926, so I think I might just buy a used phone of the same generation and mod it. If successful, we'll just swap the hacked one onto her account. I'm thinking Galaxy S3? I'd be curious to know what the "most hackable" phone of that generation is (JB or early KK)? Or should I post that question in the XDA General? I've searched and haven't found that question asked.
Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?
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Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?
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Did you boot it into fastboot mode and ensure whether it's already been unlocked or not? You might get lucky if they already unlocked it.
I've checked it - it is locked :/
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I've checked it - it is locked :/
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Bummer.
Is anybody working on method of unlock the bootloader and root for razr maxx hd with 183.46.15?
no
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
farid2014 said:
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Sure as long as you are already unlocked.
Edit, I didn't see Rik's post, same answer, different angle lol
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Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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I have the code : 3 that means I can down grade right?
Thanks
Related
It seems AT&T is pushing out an OTA version 2.20 that is rumored to close all the loopholes we've used to unlock and root the One X.
If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
Wait until someone has gotten a hold of this version and picked it apart before installing it.
Keep Calm and Carry On.
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If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
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Even if you are rooted and unlocked BL, don't accept the OTA, unless you are brave and feel like being the guinea pig (I guess somebody has to be). The install may not work, or it may wipe out root, and the existing root methods may have been plugged up. OTA Rootkeeper might work. It did for the last OTA, but there is no guarantee that it will work this time. Somebody will probably post this as a recovery flashable zip in pre-rooted form. So be patient, unless you feel like experimenting, and living with the consequences.
Thanks for the public service announcement, as I'm sure people will start asking whether its safe to install the OTA.
I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
Bu-bu-but I want the update NOW. Can I plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz install it? I know you said its not safe, but is it safe?
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
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Or how many people unroot just so they can get an OTA that will provide very little added performance if any. People are sooooo quick to accept OTAs when they have no clue what they are for. I can understand wanting to accept an OTA for a major OS update like ICS to JB (ok that was a lie, I still have no clue why people would rather accept an OTA than just flash a rooted ROM) but to give up root for a simple MR is just asinine.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
gunnyman said:
Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Yep. This place is turning into a general Android forum. All the "I'm not really into rooting" posts crack me up.
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It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's and root them
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superchilpil said:
It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's
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Yup.
I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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yeah but you're old school.
(and a little weird)
got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
Something like this should go without saying. Any xda member that's foolhardy enough to download an ota without knowing the consequences, probably doesn't belong here in the first place.
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zounduser said:
got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
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Oooh maybe not.
Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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Oooh maybe not.
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Now that I'm thinking about it, this is a pretty effective method to block and patch our root exploit
And I'm glad I did it last night
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Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
iElvis said:
Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
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yeah there's NOTHING anywhere else about this.
I'm glad I'm rooted
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Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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If I'm not mistaken, the exploit uses the AT&T update server to trick the phone into download mode, so I don't think this could work.
Hey all,
Now that I have my phone rooted and unlocked, is it ok if I accept and install the latest OTA update? Is there any additional steps I need to take before or after?
use voodoo from the market to protect root and temp unroot while updating. also you have to be stock, with all the bloat apps installed and not frozen, or the update will fail.
ultimately the update will likely fail at the end anyways, but as long as it updates the baseband, that's all you really want out of it anyways.
Ok thanks. I will give it a try. Sounds like it will probably fail. LoL
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Ok thanks. I will give it a try. Sounds like it will probably fail. LoL
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yes you can take updates with the unlocked bootloader i took the one back in july anyways however you lose root and you have to reflash twrp im currently looking for the thread i used to complete the task i found it here on xda... if there has been a ota since sorry... havent bee keeping up since lol ota's arent that much important anymore to me
i found the thread is on droid razr forums i dont have "10 posts" so it wont allow me to send it to you
You successful? I tried coming you the link
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You successful? I tried coming you the link
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I haven't tried it quite yet. Gotta work up the balls to do it lol
Ah Lol yeah its not as daunting as it seems really
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I haven't tried it quite yet. Gotta work up the balls to do it lol
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i have taken the update about a dozen times no problem, and didn't loose root one time.
matts utility reverts to before the update (including the baseband), so there is really no danger as long as you are already unlocked.
bweN diorD said:
i have taken the update about a dozen times no problem, and didn't loose root one time.
matts utility reverts to before the update (including the baseband), so there is really no danger as long as you are already unlocked.
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Nice thing about being unlocked lol your not stuck
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Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
Jestified said:
Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
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Yes, you can root your phone. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are two different things. If you're on the latest update, you won't be able to unlock anyway. If your BL isn't unlocked, you won't be able to use any of the 4.3 based ROMs. I don't think there have been any developed for use on SafeStrap.
If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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deeje00 said:
If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
Jestified said:
I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
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Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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clouse2013 said:
Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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However, you can use Xposed Framework to do a lot of modding/tweaking to a stock ROM. I am running a custom ROM, but I still use Xposed for a lot of things. You can theme your stock ROM in ways that are very similar to having a theme manager on AOSP ROMs.
have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
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iBolski said:
have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
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system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
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system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
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Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
Oops. Double post for some reason!
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Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
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Which is why I said if you haven't unlocked the bootloader.
Once it's unlocked, it's unlocked. You can't lock it back up because apparently, it's a physical change in the phone, such as a fuse being blown or something like that. At least, that's what I've read. http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
Apparently, it's something Qualcomm has created called a QFuse. These are software programmable fuses that once blown, they can NEVER be put back to their prior state. In Motorola devices, there is a FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT QFuse. This is all explained by Dan Rosenburg who is the developer that gave us the ability to unlock our Droid RAZR HDs. it's a good read and explains a lot.
Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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doesn't hurt but is 100% pointless, as the system version has nothing to do with the trust zone files that cant be changed back.
the system version serves as a reference point to when it used to be possible in relation to the other files that were irrevocably updated, nothing more.
Hello,
I have verizon razr hd xt926 stock version 4.4.2 i am unable to root through towelroot what is another solution for root, unlock bootloader and recovery.
Please help.
Take a look around and read a little bit but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned a few times that once you upgrade to stock 4.4.2 there is no such thing as rooting or unlocking your bootloader anymore. They've locked it down. Google the specific version that you have.
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Take a look around and read a little bit but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned a few times that once you upgrade to stock 4.4.2 there is no such thing as rooting or unlocking your bootloader anymore. They've locked it down. Google the specific version that you have.
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Oh i am on latest build jul 2014 means i cant root it? May be there is any solution plz help
Is it possible i downgrade version and then root it
efuzone said:
Is it possible i downgrade version and then root it
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No
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No
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So it means i lost the chance no any solution?
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So it means i lost the chance no any solution?
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Yes. You will forever have that device running whatever it is you have. NEVER take new OTAs until you read up on them and learn the effects of what the update does. Some updates are good to go and will allow you to unlock and root. Others, which it looks like in your case, will not allow you to unlock and root.
Best bet, find a broken device on ebay or amazon that is still able to be unlocked, buy it, and have it shipped to you. Also purchase any tools needed to open your device and a T5 screwdriver. Do a motherboard swap and then follow any guides on here to get the unlockable OTA to your device.
Good luck with this issue, we'll be here to help where/when we can.
Bit of background...I've had Android phones since the OG Droid. All of them were rooted. The phone I have now is the Razr HD which I've never rooted. Guess I just got out of the game for a while. I want to root it now but unfortunately, it's been so long since I've been around the forums that I don't really know what anything is anymore or what does what.
I'm sure this has been asked before but every search I do, I come up with stuff that I don't understand. Can someone help out?
Phone is running 4.4.2
System version: 183.46.15.XT926
Thanks!
If your boot loader is locked, you can't do anything.
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maverick31210 said:
Bit of background...I've had Android phones since the OG Droid. All of them were rooted. The phone I have now is the Razr HD which I've never rooted. Guess I just got out of the game for a while. I want to root it now but unfortunately, it's been so long since I've been around the forums that I don't really know what anything is anymore or what does what.
I'm sure this has been asked before but every search I do, I come up with stuff that I don't understand. Can someone help out?
Phone is running 4.4.2
System version: 183.46.15.XT926
Thanks!
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Abstract: you wanna root your Motorola Razr HD (xt925) ?
You can't go anymore with the "gentle procedure" - which is using Motochopper, a way to root the 4.1.2 without tearing apart your phone.
So either you go back with a stock 4.1.2 and live happily with motochopper and a slow sys, or you follow Motorola instructions to unlock the phone. Be aware that once you enter the code Motorola will provide you'll void your warranty (if you still are under the grace period).
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Abstract: you wanna root your Motorola Razr HD (xt925) ?
You can't go anymore with the "gentle procedure" - which is using Motochopper, a way to root the 4.1.2 without tearing apart your phone.
So either you go back with a stock 4.1.2 and live happily with motochopper and a slow sys, or you follow Motorola instructions to unlock the phone. Be aware that once you enter the code Motorola will provide you'll void your warranty (if you still are under the grace period).
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You need to stop putting bad info out there, this unlock only works on the 925. The system version he shows is FW for the 926. You can't unlock the 926 via Moto.
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You need to stop putting bad info out there, this unlock only works on the 925. The system version he shows is FW for the 926. You can't unlock the 926 via Moto.
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Isn't the Razr HD the xt925?
Or am I getting confused with all those names?
Edit: ah yeah, sorry, I've read only "RAZR HD", and I din't pay attention to sysver. My bad.
Graf Schmidt said:
Isn't the Razr HD the xt925?
Or am I getting confused with all those names?
Edit: ah yeah, sorry, I've read only "RAZR HD", and I din't pay attention to sysver. My bad.
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The 925 is the GSM variant and is unlockable through Moto. The 926 is the CDMA model that is typically used on Verizon and it's not unlockable through Moto.
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The 925 is the GSM variant and is unlockable through Moto. The 926 is the CDMA model that is typically used on Verizon and it's not unlockable through Moto.
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Hi, RikRong. I'm also new to this XT926 and on the latest firmware I guess (183.46.15.xt926), is there's any new way to unlock bootloader and root this device? I read an old instruction in another post and just bought this device and now I'm so screwed over .
shallwedance said:
Hi, RikRong. I'm also new to this XT926 and on the latest firmware I guess (183.46.15.xt926), is there's any new way to unlock bootloader and root this device? I read an old instruction in another post and just bought this device and now I'm so screwed over .
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Unfortunately, right now there is no way to root or unlock that build.
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Is this still the case? My phone was auto-upgraded to 4.4.2... I'm stuck?