Hi,
I remember that the HTC phones had a very bad 3D performance because the gpu was deactivated by qualcomm.
Do the new HTC phones have the same issues like the old ones back then?
Is there a list where I can see which models are affected?
thanks
the ones u are talking about are the old non cortex ones .... just be sure to get one with 800-1000mhz , that will be either a 1st or 2nd gen snapdragon with Ok 3d capability
Thank you for the valuable information
are they both same device?
No the display is 4.7 inch 1280x720p
and someone ask me post my q regarding shv-e120l in this section.... durhz...
Brothers from another mobile mother, or just a case of copycat syndrome? We'll let you be the judge, but from the looks of this latest leak, Samsung's SHV-E120L could be sharing some of the LG LU6200's special spec sauce. Outed over on Cetizen and iNews24, the full breakdown of the device's innards point to a dual-core 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 4.7-inch 1280 x 720 HD display, 2 megapixel front-facing / 8 megapixel rear camera, 1GB RAM, 16GB of onboard storage, WiFi, Bluetooth and NFC. We've seen conflicting reports as to the exact version of Gingerbread that'll ship on the phone, with Android 2.3.5 in the running. As for the handset's radios, its purported MDM9600 Gobi chipset indicates tri-mode LTE, HSPA and CDMA compatibility. Sammy's super-sized smartphone could hit South Korea later this month, or in early October --if the passable English in that Google translation can be believed.
Has anyone managed to answer this question? I'm having trouble finding a hardware breakdown for both devices. I have heard that the E120L uses a different GPU, but can't confirm. Would be good to know as I'm sure there will be a CyanogenMod release for the Skyrocket but probably unlikely for the E120L as it is a Korea-specific model...
The Samsung SHV-E120L is supposed to be the Asian market equivalent of the Skyrocket HD.
Here are the spec for the E120S... couldn't find the E120L
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte-4198.php
Insecure Kernel for FD07?
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 HD SHV-E120L.
Does anyone know where to find the Insecure Kernel for FD07?
I need it but am unable to find it in order to root my phone.
Hi all,
I have a nexus 5 and hear alot in the forums about a Moto dalvik patch from the Moto X. Does this come to the Moto G? Is it already included with the Moto G?
I have very little knowledge.
I plan on getting a Moto G for my Mum for christmas.
Please somebody correct me if I'm mistaken, but this Dalvik/Bionic mod you are talking about is for Android 4.4. We won't get the new Android flavour until the end of January.
Probably can work also on 4.3 but someone brave must try
ItzMar said:
Hi all,
I have a nexus 5 and hear alot in the forums about a Moto dalvik patch from the Moto X. Does this come to the Moto G? Is it already included with the Moto G?
I have very little knowledge.
I plan on getting a Moto G for my Mum for christmas.
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No, the Dalvik/bionic patches in question are, I am fairly certain, not from Motorola, but Qualcomm ones from CodeAurora. Many custom firmwares include these (Omni is working on integrating them, but we're tracking down some performance regressions on hammerhead)
HOWEVER: They are specific to Qualcomm Krait CPUs. The G is, I believe, a Cortex-A7 based device (need to check), not Krait. Krait optimizations will very likely not work as expected.
Entropy512 said:
No, the Dalvik/bionic patches in question are, I am fairly certain, not from Motorola, but Qualcomm ones from CodeAurora. Many custom firmwares include these (Omni is working on integrating them, but we're tracking down some performance regressions on hammerhead)
HOWEVER: They are specific to Qualcomm Krait CPUs. The G is, I believe, a Cortex-A7 based device (need to check), not Krait. Krait optimizations will very likely not work as expected.
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Oh, hello Entropy512 /waves
Tell me you're getting a moto g .... ?
Entropy512 said:
No, the Dalvik/bionic patches in question are, I am fairly certain, not from Motorola, but Qualcomm ones from CodeAurora. Many custom firmwares include these (Omni is working on integrating them, but we're tracking down some performance regressions on hammerhead)
HOWEVER: They are specific to Qualcomm Krait CPUs. The G is, I believe, a Cortex-A7 based device (need to check), not Krait. Krait optimizations will very likely not work as expected.
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The Moto G runs the Snapdragon 400 CPU and according to WIKI it is Krait, not trying to be a smart a** but correct me if i'm wrong.
mykenyc said:
The Moto G runs the Snapdragon 400 CPU and according to WIKI it is Krait, not trying to be a smart a** but correct me if i'm wrong.
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I guess you are right, but there could be some differences between Snapdragon 400 and 600(?) what Moto X and Nexus 5 has that could cause some headaches.
debaj said:
I guess you are right, but there could be some differences between Snapdragon 400 and 600(?) what Moto X and Nexus 5 has that could cause some headaches.
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mykenyc said:
The Moto G runs the Snapdragon 400 CPU and according to WIKI it is Krait, not trying to be a smart a** but correct me if i'm wrong.
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The Moto G has the quad-core Cortex-A7(Note; not Krait) version of the Snapdragon 400. There are other versions of the Snapdragon 400, which is the dual-core Krait 200/300 version of the Snapdragon 400.
For example, the Galaxy S4 mini has a dual-core Krait 300 version of the Snapdragon 400, the Galaxy Ace 3 has the dual-core Krait 200 version, and lastly Moto G has the quad-core Cortex-A7 version.
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The Moto G has the quad-core Cortex-A7(Note; not Krait) version of the Snapdragon 400. There are other versions of the Snapdragon 400, which is the dual-core Krait 200/300 version of the Snapdragon 400.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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Oh, hello Entropy512 /waves
Tell me you're getting a moto g .... ?
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Arrived last night. Not sure how much time I'll actually be able to spend on it, but I hope to get omni at least started on it.
Entropy512 said:
No, the Dalvik/bionic patches in question are, I am fairly certain, not from Motorola, but Qualcomm ones from CodeAurora. Many custom firmwares include these (Omni is working on integrating them, but we're tracking down some performance regressions on hammerhead)
HOWEVER: They are specific to Qualcomm Krait CPUs. The G is, I believe, a Cortex-A7 based device (need to check), not Krait. Krait optimizations will very likely not work as expected.
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All of the bionic patches are on CAF, but dalvik aren't. Both patches come with any non-nexus qcom stock rom, so no need to flash on a stock-based ROM, but they will affect AOSP ROMs, since most don't have them included. QCOM dalvik uses libqc-opt, a proprietary library, and libqc-dalvik, a static library which is tough to find unless you have connections, and even if you do, you can't release the libraries, so you have to use prebuilts rather than being able to build from source.
Also, these don't seem to be specific to Qualcomm. Other devices have flashed these and reported a large benchmark increase and some performance increases as well. Could be all placebo, though. It's hard to say. This doesn't appear to be an app spy, like Samsung's DVFS, where it ramps up the freqs when it detects a benchmark app, but I'm not exactly sure how it works. @Entropy512, if you have time, go on Hangouts.
TL;DR: If you're running a stock-based ROM, no need to flash the Moto X patches, you already have them. If you run an AOSP ROM, chances are, you won't have the Qualcomm Dalvik, so flash that. Many ROMs (PA, CM, etc) already have the CAF bionic, so no need to flash that either. If you want to know, PM me and I can look and report back to you.
To be honest as Google appear to be phasing out Dalvik in favour of their own ART, i'm not sure why you'd want to bother with something that at best is likely to be only around a short time. I'm quite looking forward to see what ART brings to the mix now and in the future when it's more established.
I've got a 4G/LTE Moto G, can I use the ROMs available for the earlier model?
Nope, they won't work... But dont worry, developement is increasing for the 4G model...
Ah, I'm surprised to hear that. Out of interest what makes them incompatible? My naive assumption was that internally the two are basically the same phone.
I am also curious. I suspect no-one has made a serious effort to try. I am experimenting in this area at the moment.
It could be dangerous to flash the non-4G bootloader (motoboot.img) on 4G, but other than that I think it's harmless to try flashing a stock XT1032 Motorola firmware image.
They aren't, it's the chipset that causes issues and lack of compatibility. Two different architectures, means the drivers are different, now could someone make a jumbo rom that offered that option? I don't know, I'm not a developer. I just have advance android hacking knowledge since I hacked all of my devices based off of others works. So while I understand the basics, it doesn't extend that much further. The Wifi tablets are running on Samsung's Exynos CPUs, and the 4G are running on a Qualcomm 805 chip (I think it's 805), so they're structurally quite different. Samsung adheres to ARM standards, where Qualcomm's 805 is Krait based, which is a proprietary layout, unique to them alone. So even if the Qualcomm wasn't 4G and just a regional variant, the roms would be different because the CPUs are so different. Also why Krait chips were kicking the crap out of ARM chips.
Hello friends, based on rumors that the Moto G3 not receive android N due to technical limitations of soc and gpu , I would ask if the Moto g turbo if you receive android N? I ask based on differences in hardware because the turbo model has soc snapdragon 615 and gpu Adreno GPU 405 and in theory there are no limitations on the driver Qualcomm. Thank you very much for your opinions.
To be honest, the Moto G 2015 and the Turbo will likely get it, the only problem with the SD410 SOC is that it won't support Vulcan, which is not a requirement for Nougat.
That being said, Moto has made no promises, or even hinted, at anything about Nougat... I own the Moto X Pure Edition (the US version of the Style) and no word on that either... In fact, Moto hasn't even said if the G4 or Z will get it, although that is more likely than us getting it.
The entire problem here is Moto has nothing at all about Nougat and we are just left to our best speculations.