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Galaxy S just a label?

i was wondering. what exactly makes a Galaxy S device a Galaxy s device? i hope i made sense there...
because on twitter GalaxySsupport replied to a question i had originally asked to Samsungsupport about the infuse.

more or less. there are many phones named galaxy from samsung. then the galaxy s line came out, then the galaxy s conntinuum. then the galaxy indulge on metro pcs. then the i9003. galaxy s had a narrow line of hardware at first then they played with screens now the whole hardware profile can vary. the infuse is more galaxy s than the galaxy indulge, or the i9003. now they have the galaxy s 2 and will soon have the galaxy s 2 mini and galaxy s+ which will supposedly be based on a quallcom cpu.. so although the infuse has different gps hardware and mhl the radio is likely the same as the t959v sgs4g and is otherwise a galaxy s. samsung said it doesnt have the hardware requirements to be called a galaxy s when asked but it only seems to have hardware improvements. the audio chip is the same, the processor is the same, other phones called galaxy dont meet those requirements, and the phone is also capable of running gps and the camera while making phone calls, the sgs cant do either. im not really sure what game samsung is playing here but it seems galaxy s has been demoted to a label and att maybe didnt want that label because of the bugs and lack of support people think it had.

It seems to be a just a label. I mean this is way batter than any galaxy device out there. Poeple all up on dual core (I was one of them), what exactly do you need so much power for? How fast are you typing that you need a phone to keep up with you. The only phone that does require it would he the atrix because of its lapdock. But even then dual core seems to be a way to drain your battery if you don't know how to set up the phone correctly. And Samsung directed my question to the Galaxy S twitter account. I still think this phone meets and exceeds the requirements for a Galaxy S device.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.

multi core is hard to utilize fully(has to do with the way things are processed and applications are written) but the step from one to two can feel like a big difference in some situations. any lag caused by background services can disappear because there is a non busy processor core ready to go. the lag difference can give the perception of performance even if the actual speed something is processed at is not much faster. if a dual core comes out that has great battery life and no heat issues im sure it will be great. dual core doesnt throw me off that much, what gets me however is they are already talking about 4 core chips for phones! please figure out a way to make the architecture smaller or make 3d architecture like they have been talking about for years so we can get more hz and less power usage. it cant be easy to parallelize applications with simple functions that are written in java.
multi core is great for benchmarking but beyond 2 cores i dont see the point on a small screen and one is perfectly acceptable.

Atrix dual core. Lag and heat central on that phone.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

My atrix got very hot as well. I haven't noticed any speed difference between my atrix and the infuse. I think overall the infuse is a far superior device.

i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.

I think I'm pretty much set with the Infuse.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.

Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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h8rift said:
The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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OMG LOL. Epic fail. I knew something was up with that phone. LOL
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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the infuse gpu can keep up with some kernel tweaks and api support for tegra based games. the sgs renders some things better(not sure if that's true in a technical sense but certain benchmarks look more natueral) and in most cases can run similar frame rates, some overclocking and the sgx power vr540 gpu is a beast. dual core helps in games that are written for dual core especially if it uses tegra2 specific APIs, chainfire's chainfire 3d may help with that situation.
and well dual core would only help with lag caused by multi tasking. a laggy launcher on a single core may be just as laggy on a dual core(unless it is multi threaded), but a snappy launcher may lag if there is a background service running on a single core but is not likely lag to on a dual core even with background services. i guess i wasnt specific enough.
i guess im only reinforcing the idea that dual core is marketing nonsense because unless you are a multi tasking junkie you wont notice a bit of difference 90% of the time.

h8rift said:
The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App
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a large portion of the boot process is probably in one large thread making dual core useless untill the ui starts. though having the core ready would mean you could start playing with things while the ui is still loading making the wait for everything to load less annoying.

Dani897 said:
i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.
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What are the audio issues on the attain?

nstong said:
What are the audio issues on the attain?
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well the attain isnt tested yet, maybe i should have said sgs2. if the attain is the same as the sgs2 international supercurio wasnt very happy with the audio, and audio is important to me. it has a yamaha chip not a wolfson. not that yamaha is bad but it appears that the chip may be faulty or something. also wolfson was very cooperative in providing drivers and sources for supercurio's voodoo project. im sure it actually sounds good with the exception of the noise level. there are some clicking or popping issues from what i understand. i use in ear headphones and im sure id be able t to hear it.

Transformer27 said:
I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.
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Just making sure about this, but you do mean a 1.0 Ghz processor on Galaxy S right? lol

my bad yeah. furious typing at the moment of doing the list. lol

Xolo X900

Hi,
According to many websites the Xolo X900 is excepted to be released really soon on Indian market (rumored for as early as tomorrow).
This along with the Lenovo K800 are the first Android devices w/ Intel chipsets.
Official Specs:
Processor: 1.6 GHz Intel Atom
OS: Android 2.3 Gingerbread (Upgradable to ICS)
RAM: 1 GB
Screen: 4.03'' (LCD 1024 x 600)
Camera: 8 MP with Flash
Front Camera: 1.3 MP
Internal Storage: 16 GB
Dimensions: 123 x 63 x 10.99 mm
HDMI TV out: Yes
NFC: Yes
Engadget review: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/intels-xolo-x900-by-lava-hands-on/
I'm trying to understand where this device stands comparing to other new devices announced at MWC 12.
Only single core but it's Intel and I don't think we have comparison data between this and the different ARM processors.
Screen smaller than the current trend of minimum 4.3''.
Intel promise good battery life and everything else seems quite good so I assume mid-range class but I have no idea if it has the quality of other devices in this category like the HTC One S or Xperia P.
Would love to hear opinions about this device.
As an added question,
Would you suffice with such device or go with HTC One X? (assuming budget is not an issue).

Sounds like it has a lot of promise!

I heard the price was about Rs.22000(apx.$440). For a single core processor i think its too much when we can get a dual core for about the same price.

may be,
But guys, lava promised that this will have an ICS update soon, and all mobiles out which have dual core, do you think they are actually necessary. There are many battery dragging features in dual core. And Here, No more ARM you are getting a processor created buy Intel with 1.6MHZ Where you get 2Mhz processor provided by lg recently.( commoon intel is Legend in PC core processors), they promised that you will have the best charging life than any other mobile out in market. May be cost is bit high, but I think 18k is enough for this mobile. Which is already available.

Europe version
It will have an europe version with Orange, called Orange Santa Clara

Today i have received a package from one of our custumers and Xolo X900 was inside ;-) .... till monday i have to compare this phone with the iPhone 4s and Samsung Galaxy SIII ... i will post then some pics and facts...
It really looks nice, but with the 4 touch buttons and the hole in the display it not really seens to be up to date...
More in a few days...

Orange San Diego is Intel. Its £200... Not sure in India a I'm not Indian...
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Orange San Diego and Intel XOLO X900 both are same except for the firmware. Orange San Diego have generic GB with Orange branding. XOLO doesn't have any branding. There is another sibling to this device in Russia. I don't remember what they call it.
Sent from my X900 using xda app-developers app

anipbhat said:
I heard the price was about Rs.22000(apx.$440). For a single core processor i think its too much when we can get a dual core for about the same price.
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If this is the price on offer, then surely this handset would not have an impact in the Indian market..
Seems overpriced

[Q] HELP Deciding Galaxy S2 i727 Skyrocket vs. Galaxy S2 i777

Hello guys, so I recently sold my Atrix 4G and have been on the dilemma on which phone to get... I am currently looking at these 2 models:
Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (i727) | (Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon - Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion - Adreno 220)
Galaxy S2 (i777) | (Exynos C210 - Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 - Mali-400MP)
From what I have read seems like the i777 features the best performance CPU/GPU compared to the i727 but I would like to know by what margin, will it be noticeable? (Performance is very important for my occasional gaming).
Also I like my phones to be backed by the community with lots of rom's to choose from (CM10 is a must for me) and from the 2 I'd like to know which is the most future proof and offers the biggest developer crowd? NFC Support is a must!
Other opinions are welcome!
Also on a side note should I just fork the extra bucks and get a Gnex? I like the community support offered for it but the camera and lack of external Sd-Card just doest cut it for me. Also how does the CPU/GPU of this one compares to the skyrocket?
Thanks!
Oscar

wceoscar said:
Hello guys, so I recently sold my Atrix 4G and have been on the dilemma on which phone to get... I am currently looking at these 2 models:
Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (i727) | (Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon - Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion - Adreno 220)
Galaxy S2 (i777) | (Exynos C210 - Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 - Mali-400MP)
From what I have read seems like the i777 features the best performance CPU/GPU compared to the i727 but I would like to know by what margin, will it be noticeable? (Performance is very important for my occasional gaming).
Also I like my phones to be backed by the community with lots of rom's to choose from (CM10 is a must for me) and from the 2 I'd like to know which is the most future proof and offers the biggest developer crowd? NFC Support is a must!
Other opinions are welcome!
Also on a side note should I just fork the extra bucks and get a Gnex? I like the community support offered for it but the camera and lack of external Sd-Card just doest cut it for me. Also how does the CPU/GPU of this one compares to the skyrocket?
Thanks!
Oscar
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1. The Exynos dual SCREAMS, especially when compared to the Snapdragon S3. If the Skyrocket had a Snapdragon S4, then you'd have a decision, but trust me, after owning the Sprint GSII and the Evo 3D (Exynos and Snapdragon S3, respectively, I can tell you that for gaming and everyday performance, hands down the Exynos is the winner in every category. The Adreno GPU in the S3 is terrible for any high-end gaming (Grand Theft Auto 3, Dead Trigger, etc). I myself game heavily on my phone, and I'll tell you straight up, the Exynos dual very powerful and still very viable.
2. The Galaxy S II i777 has NFC, though no Secure Element. What does that mean? It means you can't use Google Wallet, but you can do pretty much anything else, like Android Beam and NFC Tag interaction.
3. The i777 is identical to the i9100P (i9100 with NFC), except for the button layout. You'll get much more support than with the Skyrocket.

wceoscar said:
Hello guys, so I recently sold my Atrix 4G and have been on the dilemma on which phone to get... I am currently looking at these 2 models:
Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (i727) | (Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon - Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion - Adreno 220)
Galaxy S2 (i777) | (Exynos C210 - Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 - Mali-400MP)
From what I have read seems like the i777 features the best performance CPU/GPU compared to the i727 but I would like to know by what margin, will it be noticeable? (Performance is very important for my occasional gaming).
Also I like my phones to be backed by the community with lots of rom's to choose from (CM10 is a must for me) and from the 2 I'd like to know which is the most future proof and offers the biggest developer crowd? NFC Support is a must!
Other opinions are welcome!
Also on a side note should I just fork the extra bucks and get a Gnex? I like the community support offered for it but the camera and lack of external Sd-Card just doest cut it for me. Also how does the CPU/GPU of this one compares to the skyrocket?
Thanks!
Oscar
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i have owned the i777 and i loved it so i would recommend it

Product F(RED) said:
1. The Exynos dual SCREAMS, especially when compared to the Snapdragon S3. If the Skyrocket had a Snapdragon S4, then you'd have a decision, but trust me, after owning the Sprint GSII and the Evo 3D (Exynos and Snapdragon S3, respectively, I can tell you that for gaming and everyday performance, hands down the Exynos is the winner in every category. The Adreno GPU in the S3 is terrible for any high-end gaming (Grand Theft Auto 3, Dead Trigger, etc). I myself game heavily on my phone, and I'll tell you straight up, the Exynos dual very powerful and still very viable.
2. The Galaxy S II i777 has NFC, though no Secure Element. What does that mean? It means you can't use Google Wallet, but you can do pretty much anything else, like Android Beam and NFC Tag interaction.
3. The i777 is identical to the i9100P (i9100 with NFC), except for the button layout. You'll get much more support than with the Skyrocket.
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Thanks for the fast reply! Getting the i777

I727 Cuz bigger screen more MHz than i777 never tried gaming on i777
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.2" is negligible in comparison and Exynos blows out the Snapdragon S3 CPU found in the slowrocket

my i777 lags playing MC4 Amazing spider man Dark knight rises Wild blood, why does it lag?

ian619420 said:
my i777 lags playing MC4 Amazing spider man Dark knight rises Wild blood, why does it lag?
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It's an older phone. That's how I'll summarize it. The chipset is fast but not fast enough to play the latest and greatest smoothly.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

Product F(RED) said:
It's an older phone. That's how I'll summarize it. The chipset is fast but not fast enough to play the latest and greatest smoothly.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
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Would nook hd/ + handle those games? Since it does have a powervr sgx544 gpu?

recomendations? Hero 2000+

Hi, I am familiar with this forum but I have never posted anything. Ok anyways I just ordered a Chinese knockoff phone called the Hero 2000+ of the Iphone 5, it comes as an android os instead of the ios. The reason I ordered this was to experiement with it, plus I like how the Iphone looks but dont care for the IOS. So I know MIUI makes a custom rom with an Iphone theme, so my question is can this be installed in a chinese knockoff? I would love to have the best of both worlds.
they sell this phone on android-sale
I cant put a link up because im a new user but here are the specs.
Short Description
- 4 inch FWVGA screen, 854*480 pixel
- MTK MT6577 1GHz dual-core processor, GPU: PowerVR SGX531
- Support GSM & WCDMA 3G network
- 512MB RAM / 4GB ROM
- 8MP rear camera, 0.3MP front camera
- Support WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS
- Android 4.0.4 OS, installed English Google Play store ]

reyrey507 said:
Hi, I am familiar with this forum but I have never posted anything. Ok anyways I just ordered a Chinese knockoff phone called the Hero 2000+ of the Iphone 5, it comes as an android os instead of the ios. The reason I ordered this was to experiement with it, plus I like how the Iphone looks but dont care for the IOS. So I know MIUI makes a custom rom with an Iphone theme, so my question is can this be installed in a chinese knockoff? I would love to have the best of both worlds.
they sell this phone on android-sale
I cant put a link up because im a new user but here are the specs.
Short Description
- 4 inch FWVGA screen, 854*480 pixel
- MTK MT6577 1GHz dual-core processor, GPU: PowerVR SGX531
- Support GSM & WCDMA 3G network
- 512MB RAM / 4GB ROM
- 8MP rear camera, 0.3MP front camera
- Support WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS
- Android 4.0.4 OS, installed English Google Play store ]
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I also just ordered one off of android sale!
Did you receive yours yet?

Moved to General Q&A.

jonnyleechee said:
Did you receive yours yet?
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I've got mine 3 weeks ago already... happy with it so far

Hi. Does this have play store preinstalled? Is there any multilanguage rom?

What is the difference from OLD TOP gamma and new low gamma?

as example i take 2 device (but the question are general)
Nexus one: snapdragon S1 QSD8250 at 1GHz with Adreno 200
Galaxy mini 2: snapdragon S1 MSM7227A at 800 MHz with Adreno 200
im noob but i cant see big difference between these 2 devices, just one
Nexus is hold at gingerbread
Galaxy mini 2 is planned to JB (and there is already a custom rom that works very good)
THE QUESTION ARE SIMPLE:
is there a techical reason which prevents the nexus one running JB or is it just marketing?
thanks to anyone who wants to give me a technical explanation

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I think just marketing because the company want to earn money with new phone so if they say that they will be upgrade a "new phone" peaple would like to buy them. If they say about a old phone it won't be the same.

any tecnical answer ?

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Don't think there's any technical reason. Devs have come up with CM10 roms for nexus one, so probably manufacturers can provide jb on such phones if they really wish to.