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[Q] CM11 vs. 4.4.2 stock?

I just bought a Nexus 5 and I was wondering which is better: CM11 nightlies or just having rooted stock FW ..
Which one is faster? (bootup time, app launch times, smoothness)
And am I really missing any features when staying stock?

This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46344624
It's really up to you to decide which is better. Cm will probably have more bugs than stock but maybe they're ok for you

gFrenken97 said:
I just bought a Nexus 5 and I was wondering which is better: CM11 nightlies or just having rooted stock FW ..
Which one is faster? (bootup time, app launch times, smoothness)
And am I really missing any features when staying stock?
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I prefer stock because of the difficulty of porting the Google Dialer with Caller ID by Google

gFrenken97 said:
I just bought a Nexus 5 and I was wondering which is better: CM11 nightlies or just having rooted stock FW ..
Which one is faster? (bootup time, app launch times, smoothness)
And am I really missing any features when staying stock?
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I flashed just about everything and settled on stock. cm11, purity ROM, sanity, slim, you name it. Stock with xposed is great. On any custom ROM, I lost LTE and still don't know why. Gravitybox is just about the same as running a custom ROM, too.
Sent from a stock/rooted n5 running franco.kernel

I dont see much of a point in owning a nexus if you are just gonna throw Cyanogenmod on it.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

I would probably stick with stock if I didn't require voice+ app by cyanogenmod. Until hangouts come with full Google voice number support sticking with CM11.
CM11 really isn't that buggy with current nightly, it's incredibly stable. Also the fact that it's a continuous work in progress is plus. You never know when stock gets updates.
Other than that I would use paranoid android when that comes out or pacman.
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muyoso said:
I dont see much of a point in owning a nexus if you are just gonna throw Cyanogenmod on it.
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Yeah just buy the cyanogenmod phone that they released. http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/20/oppo-n1-cyanogenmod-certified-by-google/

mistahseller said:
Yeah just buy the cyanogenmod phone that they released. http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/20/oppo-n1-cyanogenmod-certified-by-google/
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Or like any other Android phone. Almost every major Android phone has Cyanogenmod ported to it. I don't personally understand the appeal of buying a Nexus phone to then throw on the same custom rom that you could run on literally any other Android phone. I guess if you are off contract and absolutely love Cyanogenmod for some insane reason. . . . .

As said on a non nexus the cyanogen team really shine, to be honest I'm loving cataclysm ROM at the minute. Close to stock but has just enough customisations for me
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muyoso said:
Or like any other Android phone. Almost every major Android phone has Cyanogenmod ported to it. I don't personally understand the appeal of buying a Nexus phone to then throw on the same custom rom that you could run on literally any other Android phone. I guess if you are off contract and absolutely love Cyanogenmod for some insane reason. . . . .
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Yeah... not a big cyanogen mod fan, although a big fan of Carbon ROM so I guess I am?

hey guys, i am a bit late but finally i upgrade from sgs2 to n5. and stock-google-android seems to be slick and fast. but what i miss is customizable quick settings and detailed volume control, which i had with my beloved cm. would that be things that xposed can do for me? what are you guys using with your n5?
tyvm!
kws

kweso said:
hey guys, i am a bit late but finally i upgrade from sgs2 to n5. and stock-google-android seems to be slick and fast. but what i miss is customizable quick settings and detailed volume control, which i had with my beloved cm. would that be things that xposed can do for me? what are you guys using with your n5?
tyvm!
kws
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Gravity box does the job fine but i feel that it does slow my phone down a bit. I prefer CM over stock

alb3rtt said:
Gravity box does the job fine but i feel that it does slow my phone down a bit. I prefer CM over stock
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thx for your reply! i like cm very much. but i figured there would be the disadvantage that cm updates will take a little longer than google (which was the other way round with samsung). maybe this will change since google is sending out dev-previews of new major releases now.
have a nice day,
kws

kweso said:
thx for your reply! i like cm very much. but i figured there would be the disadvantage that cm updates will take a little longer than google (which was the other way round with samsung). maybe this will change since google is sending out dev-previews of new major releases now.
have a nice day,
kws
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I will never use CM again, and will stay away from CM variants if at all possible.
You're talking about 2-3 days here. If that worried about it, go back to stock until CM updates. That's what I did for 4.4.3. I was already in bootloader flashing the new modem, so figured I'd just flash the rest.

Aerowinder said:
You're talking about 2-3 days here.
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rly? youre saying cm releases new major versions 2-3 days after google releases it?

kweso said:
rly? youre saying cm releases new major versions 2-3 days after google releases it?
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Slim does.

KK 4.4.2 Camera does not work

I am writting this on the Gen Forum since I am a new user.
I am having issues with the 4.4.2 ROM. I love how light weight and non-sense it is but the camera is broken in the 12-25-2013 build. Even though the title of the rom thread says it does work, it doesnt. I am using JB cam from Market but would love to have the default KK app work.
I am also having issue with battery. I did a full charge with the phone off and it was down 20-25% after just a few hours of use. I didnt know if reseting the batt stats would help or is that just BS?
I DO LOVE the fact that MAP (Message Access Protocol) for Bluetooth is working in the ROM! Finally, my car (2013 Nissan Altima) can send text messages for me! This was supported by Android after 4.4 according to Wikipedia. Now I don't have to buy a new phone!
MODS: IF you need to move this, please do. Just know that I am a new user so I have not gotten my 10 posts...
Thanks for the help in advanced!

It is a gapps bug. Flash a other gapps package
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app

Its a bug in the rom it will be fixed so be patient and use this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoonapp.free.gallery3d
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk

Thanks! I will try this out! ... Could someone notify the OP that they should change the thread title to "Camera not working"?

JCG3 said:
Thanks! I will try this out! ... Could someone notify the OP that they should change the thread title to "Camera not working"?
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With 29.12. build camera is working again

There isnt any completly 'stable' KitKat stock camera ported yet... but we are getting there! The meaning of 'camera is working' is that previously camera didnt work at all with the first kitkat ports! It took some weeks to finally port a 'working' solution that alloves to use the camera!
in the meantime you can try to flash this gapps camera : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012857
primary this stock camera is working! Few glitches here and there but at least you can take pics or record video and you dont need to install 3rd party apps!

Try this, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.radcam.camera
Nexus KitKat cam on Google Store

The issue that I have now is that the camera only takes half a picture. its the strangest thing...
+-------------------------------------------------------+
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
+-------------------------------------------------------+
Thats what it looks like... its really odd... I have tried the stock camera after I just flashed the ROM (12/30/2013) after a FULL wipe of all partitions. I even tried the nexus camera as suggested and it failed in the same way
EDIT: Played around some more and the front camera is fine. Now the back camera is taking pics where there is a green bar in the middle and some there is slight distortion at the bottom. Then the grean bar is at the bottom... I am i the only unlucky one? haha
EDIT 2: Tried flashing the google camera and same thing. Is there something wrong with my phone?
Thanks for the help!

Did u Try latest build??
all camera Work
try a stock ROM to know if its only a ROM or an hardware issue

Get this ...
the panarama works, the globe view works, video works ..... yeah and now the camera works.... argh... dang it.... sorry... I will see if I can break it again... haha.
Thanks again

I think i got it figured out....
So it only happens with in the first couple load cycles after reboot.... then it mellows out or something....
anyway, I will keep an eye on it....
I have attached the image that I was talking about...

On 4.2.2 ROMS at first build of superXE ROM, it was the same thing, to solve that i remember we was able to instal FOCAL...
Maybe that's the way, try it
FOCAL (Beta)
It works on the latest [ROM][4.4.2][UNOFFICIAL]CarbonRom for Sensation[03 Jan]

I am on CM11 by android1234567 with Kernel 52 and for me the camera works fine.

Ok now I am totally lost.... haha. I just downloaded Focal and the camera looks great and the pictures are showing up in preview. Here is where is gets weird:
In the gallery, when I look at the picture in tile mode they all look fine and they have no errors. However, when I select one to view, I get blue shades, grey block, distortion, etc.
I am uploading the pics with this post.
I blurred a few things out that I did not want the whole world to see. Notice the purple in the bigger pic. When I look at the same pic on the computer it has the grey box and the purple what-ever-it-is.
I hope this helps in seeing my issue. And, yes, I have formatted my SD card a few times now. It is S-ON, HBOOT 1.27.00, bootloader unlocked.
Thank you for all your help!

use other app , for example snap camera
im using snap camera and it's perfect

huzaljoe said:
I am on CM11 by android1234567 with Kernel 52 and for me the camera works fine.
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Same here, with this Rom camera works well
Gesendet von meinem HTC Sensation mit Tapatalk

its working just flash the PA stock Gapps and the camera should work fine

I have moved on to Venom 5.x
The camera works in that ROM just fine. I am just not sure what is wrong with the MAP feature of the Bluetooth.
I will create a new thread for that one.
Camera never did work no matter how I flash it. frustrating really. I will track both ROMs for fixes.
Thanks for the help
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IzerHD 4.4.2 in P3110

Good Day, I installed IzerHD in P3110, performance is good, i like the xperia style and apllication, but one thing is missing, the microphone is not working..
Is this can be FIXED?
Thank you

I will have a look at this issue..
Any1 else having this issue in P3110??
Microphone works very well in P3100.., and I believe in P3113 as well..
Try to port this ROM to a cyanogenmod base for your device.. That should fix the issue..
Edit: My friend has P3110, she confirmed the mic is working fine.
she used a mike fix..

Erbugs said:
Good Day, I installed IzerHD in P3110, performance is good, i like the xperia style and apllication, but one thing is missing, the microphone is not working..
Is this can be FIXED?
Thank you
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Try the Mike Fix from the SensonicHD thread, it should work..

does IzerHD have a phone remover? I noticed that when I flash it the model was p3100 while my the version of my tab is p3110, it also tries to keep searching for a signal or 3G service which depletes the battery of my tab very quickly, I also have messaging icons and other 3G apps, and the mic doesn't work either, is it okay to flash the mic fix from sensonic? all in all the audio and performance are great! phone remover for V2 would be nice, also will you be adding more xperia apps? I'll report for more problems with the current version, see you in the next version! :cheers:
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Beanstalk for m8

So I have got beanstalk built for the m8. It has an issue and the camera does not work. I know where the fix for this is but my build errors out when I use that fix. I am just wondering how many would be interested and would like me to start a thread for it. I will be working on getting camera working and getting it as smooth as I can but it actually runs pretty dang good. Let me know what you guys think.
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk

would love some bean please ...... :silly:

I'll try anything out you know..that's for sure

Uploading to my Dropbox now and will post here until I get the camera issue ironed out.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/2k77ak9so2opkbi/BeanStalk-4.4.4010-20140806-m8.zip
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk

pimpmaneaton said:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2k77ak9so2opkbi/BeanStalk-4.4.4010-20140806-m8.zip
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Downloading now I'll post back later tonight.

So I flashed it then gapps an every app I installed from playstore opened screen flashed 2 app closed. I'm going to try an new set of gapps an try again. I did flash ROM twice an same result. Anyone else flash this yet?

Tigerstown said:
So I flashed it then gapps an every app I installed from playstore opened screen flashed 2 app closed. I'm going to try an new set of gapps an try again. I did flash ROM twice an same result. Anyone else flash this yet?
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Sorry I'm not sure. I use liquid 5.8 gapps. If it is an app that uses the camera will probably have an issue until I get it to build properly with the m8 specific display repo that liquid has. I'm working in it.
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk

pimpmaneaton said:
Sorry I'm not sure. I use liquid 5.8 gapps. If it is an app that uses the camera will probably have an issue until I get it to build properly with the m8 specific display repo that liquid has. I'm working in it.
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk
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No need to be sorry bro.
I'll download those an let you know....does Dropbox use the camera somehow? That was one that wouldn't work just to name one. Just curious

pimpmaneaton said:
Sorry I'm not sure. I use liquid 5.8 gapps. If it is an app that uses the camera will probably have an issue until I get it to build properly with the m8 specific display repo that liquid has. I'm working in it.
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk
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Ok so I re flashed an the error I posted was totally on my end... I must have smoke one to me as I was flashing my 4.4.3 gapps. An with the correct gapps everything went as expected....probably why I had hella time getting playstore to open. Lol. So here is what I have to report
Sms/MMS work over WiFi/4g perfect as long as you don't set you limit over 1200.
Also you can pick pictures out of gallery to send to text just can't open camera as we all ready now..
Unlike some non sense ROMs my lte is surprisingly very strong an stable..also no issues during phone calls I have made least 25 not one echo not one drop nothing very clear.
All sounds work great...besides I can't get sound to play for my message app for nothing. Phone rings fine...any idea what I can try for text sound? Haven't tried it on hangouts yet.
Music plays in my car fine thru my HTC stereo clip(Bluetooth)
I really like all the choices in the settings.
Is there anything else in question you would like to have some input back on? I'll be running this all weekend to see if it has what it takes to become a DD...I have to say best thing I've ever downloaded from someone's dropbox. Lol
UPDATE
EDIT SLOVED SMS/MMS NO SOUND. EVERY TIME I PICK A RINGTONE TO USE IT DONT STICK BUT I PICKED LILLY AN JUST DID A REBOOT RT FROM THERE AN IT NOW IS WORKING....HAVE NO CLUE WHY BUT IF ANYONE ELSE HAS THIS ISSUE TRY THAT...
Sent from my VZW RED HTC M8

Tigerstown said:
Ok so I re flashed an the error I posted was totally on my end... I must have smoke one to me as I was flashing my 4.4.3 gapps. An with the correct gapps everything went as expected....probably why I had hella time getting playstore to open. Lol. So here is what I have to report
Sms/MMS work over WiFi/4g perfect as long as you don't set you limit over 1200.
Also you can pick pictures out of gallery to send to text just can't open camera as we all ready now..
Unlike some non sense ROMs my lte is surprisingly very strong an stable..also no issues during phone calls I have made least 25 not one echo not one drop nothing very clear.
All sounds work great...besides I can't get sound to play for my message app for nothing. Phone rings fine...any idea what I can try for text sound? Haven't tried it on hangouts yet.
Music plays in my car fine thru my HTC stereo clip(Bluetooth)
I really like all the choices in the settings.
Is there anything else in question you would like to have some input back on? I'll be running this all weekend to see if it has what it takes to become a DD...I have to say best thing I've ever downloaded from someone's dropbox. Lol
UPDATE
EDIT SLOVED SMS/MMS NO SOUND. EVERY TIME I PICK A RINGTONE TO USE IT DONT STICK BUT I PICKED LILLY AN JUST DID A REBOOT RT FROM THERE AN IT NOW IS WORKING....HAVE NO CLUE WHY BUT IF ANYONE ELSE HAS THIS ISSUE TRY THAT...
Sent from my VZW RED HTC M8
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Great feed back thank you. I have tried about 20 different combinations of trying to get it to build with this fix for camera and videos and just refuses. It may be an issue where beanstalk source is 19 days behind cm.
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk

pimpmaneaton said:
Great feed back thank you. I have tried about 20 different combinations of trying to get it to build with this fix for camera and videos and just refuses. It may be an issue where beanstalk source is 19 days behind cm.
Sent from my One M8 using Tapatalk
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After you get the camera going this will be one of the top notch ROM I have tried them all an so far this early build is better then most all ROMs of this kind...I haven't messed with cm..do you know if they r having or not having camera issues?
Sent from my VZW RED HTC M8
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An something else that you should note in your op a very solid an works great FM radio as many people want this an don't have it working on there current ROM. Loving the darkstalk...ok that's enough from me till someone else comments lol

I agree been running for a few hours , .. ran bean on my DNA and loved it .. camera is about the only issue I have ran into so far ... cant wait until its fixed ..

Just wondering bout any progress on your camera issue? I'm using this when around the house an would like to use this as my DD once fixed...not asking for eta just to be clear.

I would love to see beanstalk for m8.

BOOYA!..........FULLY WORKING BUILD BUILT FROM SOURCE IS UPLOADING RIGHT NOW! I am going to create a new thread in the Verizon One M8 Android Development Thread. Cam and all is working......

pimpmaneaton said:
BOOYA!..........FULLY WORKING BUILD BUILT FROM SOURCE IS UPLOADING RIGHT NOW! I am going to create a new thread in the Verizon One M8 Android Development Thread. Cam and all is working......
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cant wait to see it on my ONE .. lol

Where did the the thread get moved to ?

mike_augie said:
Where did the the thread get moved to ?
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It was moved out of Vzw to just HTC m8
Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2856858
[ROM][AOSP][4.4.4][Unofficial] Beanstalk [8-24-14][ALL M8]

Insert Coin Rom
Bean stalk is an Aosp rom, however Insert Coin is not. Get it if you want buttery smoothness on sense.

Tesla Rom lovers?

Just letting everybody know that their has been a Tesla ROM developed for Clark. Their is a test version only right now but its still bad ass! Go to android file host and search it. I'm sure we will see it posted to XDA sooner then later.

Great news!
I really liked their rom and used it on my Samsung Galaxy S2.
It was awesome!
But I'm already used to moto display, chop chop for flashlight And double twist for camera...
Will be hard to switch to AOSP for me ?

inb4 thread closed

newHere:) said:
Great news!
I really liked their rom and used it on my Samsung Galaxy S2.
It was awesome!
But I'm already used to moto display, chop chop for flashlight And double twist for camera...
Will be hard to switch to AOSP for me
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Chop chop and double twist are working on it. I've been running it for the last few days now, and it's my favorite ROM. The 03/12 build is better than the 03/13 build. The 03/13 build was chewing up my battery.

spotmark said:
Chop chop and double twist are working on it. I've been running it for the last few days now, and it's my favorite ROM. The 03/12 build is better than the 03/13 build. The 03/13 build was chewing up my battery.
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Is there a save to SD option on camera? I know the AOSP camera doesn't have this option but some of them include CM camera

Makalicious said:
Is there a save to SD option on camera? I know the AOSP camera doesn't have this option but some of them include CM camera
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Nope, you have to move them manually.

I tried it for a day and it seemed very unstable and buggy. But so was Broken OS, and PureNexus. I don't know if it's my phone, or just the ROMs becoming more unstable than they were in February. I haven't found a DD yet.

HikingMoose said:
I tried it for a day and it seemed very unstable and buggy. But so was Broken OS, and PureNexus. I don't know if it's my phone, or just the ROMs becoming more unstable than they were in February. I haven't found a DD yet.
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Surprised to hear that. Mine is running like a champ. Best ROM I've used so far, imo.

spotmark said:
Surprised to hear that. Mine is running like a champ. Best ROM I've used so far, imo.
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Yeah :/ I had really high hopes. At times it seemed great. I wished there was a way to turn their theme from holo blue to red! I've been using black and red themes lately. I wish I could remember the specific issues I had with this one. I know Broken would be working fine, then just crash, and not power up again. Pure nexus only had 3/4 of the features working, and had all the notofication and scrolling lag that the CM ROMs have. Who knows. Could be my device.

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Yeah :/ I had really high hopes. At times it seemed great. I wished there was a way to turn their theme from holo blue to red! I've been using black and red themes lately. I wish I could remember the specific issues I had with this one. I know Broken would be working fine, then just crash, and not power up again. Pure nexus only had 3/4 of the features working, and had all the notofication and scrolling lag that the CM ROMs have. Who knows. Could be my device.
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I'm leaning toward it being your phone. Broken ran great for me as did Pure, with the exception of the music bug.

Alpha release is up on their G+ page.

HikingMoose said:
I tried it for a day and it seemed very unstable and buggy. But so was Broken OS, and PureNexus. I don't know if it's my phone, or just the ROMs becoming more unstable than they were in February. I haven't found a DD yet.
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Do you mind describing how it was unstable and buggy? I need feedback in order to fix issues. It's running very well for me right now. And I'm working on porting EAS from bullhead as well

gmillz said:
Do you mind describing how it was unstable and buggy? I need feedback in order to fix issues. It's running very well for me right now. And I'm working on porting EAS from bullhead as well
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I apologize, but I can't honestly remember now. I can't remember if that was the one that would have apps close on me, or open on me without any input, or why I used the word unstable and buggy. If I say something is unstable and buggy, it typically means I had significant issues, beyond the normal one or two things that just don't work. But I unfortunately cannot remember.
I would like to note however, I noticed that restoring my apps and data with TiBu seemed to be causing some of my issues with the ROMs from that timeframe. Because I flashed the same purenexus build twice, once with restoring apps and data, and once by reinstalling everything from the play store, and noticed a huge difference. Using TiBu was much buggier, on the very same build. So it might have been that.

Link??

Restoring system data with TB can cause all sorts of weird issues. I strictly use it to restore apps/data for everything else, but not system data.
Sometimes it helps to wipe internal storage too when moving from one rom type to another (ie, stock based to aosp).
I haven't tried tesla rom yet, but may give it a shot in the future.

gmillz said:
Do you mind describing how it was unstable and buggy? I need feedback in order to fix issues. It's running very well for me right now. And I'm working on porting EAS from bullhead as well
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Thank you for all of you rom maker, you make clark more wonderful . The only hope is to the aosp based rom can support dual sim, by now only brokenrom support dualsim as I know. I tried DU , orion, purenexus and your tesla, they all not support dualsim .I m glad to help to the best of my ability like make logcat ,etc.

humor2008 said:
Thank you for all of you rom maker, you make clark more wonderful . The only hope is to the aosp based rom can support dual sim, by now only brokenrom support dualsim as I know. I tried DU , orion, purenexus and your tesla, they all not support dualsim .I m glad to help to the best of my ability like make logcat ,etc.
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If you could get a logcat on boot and send output of adb shell getprop

gmillz said:
If you could get a logcat on boot and send output of adb shell getprop
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Ok, I will do it right now .

View attachment 3692858
View attachment prop.txt
Here comes the logcat and prop !
THis is for the Tesla0312 rom
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and this is from BROKEN ROM:
View attachment broken.txt
View attachment prop-broken.txt

Anyone else having the 2 below issues or do I need to clean flash again...
1. Holding recents for last app will flip to last app then open recents (not just flip to last app). I tested this over and over with same result.
2. Google maps works but I can't see streets. The GPS showed I was home but nothing else