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[Q] Quick question before I install a custom rom

Im in no way shape or form a noob to rooting or installing custom roms. However, I do have a question about the effects of installing custom roms... I'm a install a custom rom tonight just to give it a go on my nexus before I send it in for an exchange but I don't want to do this if this is gonna hinder the update process entirely for my NEXT nexus s as well. So can anyone tell me if it does or not it would be greatly appreciated. Pretty much I still want to be able get OTA's on my soon to be new Nexus but am unsure if Custom Roming the original device will also affect the OTA process for my New nexus.
P.s. I feel its kinda lets say "weird" to have to make 10 posts before posting in the Dev area

yes Custom ROM will pretty much conflict with any OTA
if you want OTA stay stock

2FR35H said:
P.s. I feel its kinda lets say "weird" to have to make 10 posts before posting in the Dev area
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you are NOT supposed to post in the DEV area to begin with...
only DEV should post in the DEV area

it should be noted that chances are the ROM devs will include the OTA in the ROM far before it actually gets pushed to your phone

slowz3r said:
it should be noted that chances are the ROM devs will include the OTA in the ROM far before it actually gets pushed to your phone
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that is usually true with all other Custom ROMs, except with Bionix ROMs

Kernel compatibility with CM-based ROMs?

I have come to the N5 from a Samsung device, where if you flashed a kernel meant for a (Samsung) stock ROM onto a CM/AOSP/AOKP ROM, you would stand a good chance of bricking your phone.
Are there any similar incompatibilities between stock-based and CM-based ROMs which apply with the N5? Or can I flash any of the kernels which are available onto the CM-based (DroidKang v5) ROM I'm running?
If not, please can you explain why not and what I should be looking for in the kernel thread OP to indicate this.
Having briefly looked at a few kernel dev threads, there seems to be nothing to indicate a problem with flashing on either CM or stock.
Thanks in advance!
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Bumping to try and get a reply from some kind, knowledgeable soul!
Since I originally posted I have tried flashing Bricked-Kernel, which failed. So am I stuck with using the current kernel that came with my CM-based ROM, unless I flash a new stock-based ROM?

Still not got a full answer to my question, but am now using Bricked-Kernel, which so far I'm very happy with
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setspeed said:
I have come to the N5 from a Samsung device, where if you flashed a kernel meant for a (Samsung) stock ROM onto a CM/AOSP/AOKP ROM, you would stand a good chance of bricking your phone.
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I come from a samsung phone and there was no chance of bricking my device by flashing the wrong type of kernel, so long as its from the same phone. Bricks come from flashing roms,.kernels, radios, bootloaders and recoveries from other phones
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Question about OTA's??

ok so in the past i have had HTC devices and Samsung devices.. and when there is a OTA sent out we always had to either unroot and flash back to complete stock to take the OTA.. Or wait for a dev to make a firwmware/radio zip with the junk takin out... so then i would just have to flash that and then flash a rom thats on the new OTA and i would be good.. So my question is how does this work on nexus phones? say google sends us an OTA.. how would i go about updating my phone to the new base? would i wait for a dev to make a zip with the new firmware/radio?? or does just flashing a rom thats on the new base work also cause i really dont want to unroot to take an OTA.. if i have i i guess i will... so how do us rooted folks update when a new OTA comes along

I would just wait for a rooted rom of the update and flash that.
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You need a stock recovery and nothing more than root only. Any modifications to the rom what so ever, do NOT OTA.
There's an OTA helpdesk thread here somewhere that can help you
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JCreazy said:
I would just wait for a rooted rom of the update and flash that.
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thats what im asking.. on other phone u would have to flash a fiwmware/radio zip that a dev would make.. then flash the new ota rom... so your saying that when a OTA comes all i have to do is flash a rom that the OTA is based from?? i dont have to flash a new firmware or radio??

rootSU said:
You need a stock recovery and nothing more than root only. Any modifications to the rom what so ever, do NOT OTA.
There's an OTA helpdesk thread here somewhere that can help you
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so what happens when google send out a new OTA... how would i go about updting to it?? do i have to wait for a dev to make a firmwre/radio zip for rooted people??? or is it deffernt with nexus phones??

P.Mobile said:
thats what im asking.. on other phone u would have to flash a fiwmware/radio zip that a dev would make.. then flash the new ota rom... so your saying that when a OTA comes all i have to do is flash a rom that the OTA is based from?? i dont have to flash a new firmware or radio??
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You should never have to flash a radio if you don't want.
It gets confusing when you use the word firmware though. Most android handset manufacturers will refer to a rom as firmware. Although to me, this is technically incorrect - im not going to argue with them.
However, some US carriers for some phones deliver their updates in "firmware" and / or "apps". This confuses people even more so I prefer not to use "firmware" as a term.
An OTA update could include any of the following
- bootloader
- recovery
- radio
- kernel
- apps
- part of the rom
Every ota is added to an updated full rom though so if rooted, best sticking with those
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rootSU said:
You need a stock recovery and nothing more than root only. Any modifications to the rom what so ever, do NOT OTA.
There's an OTA helpdesk thread here somewhere that can help you
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thats not entirely true.
you can still have a custom recovery, but when the OTA asks you to reboot to install, it only takes you to the recovery screen and you need to find the file and flash it manually.
it will install fine however using a custom recovery.

i still dont understand.. what i have to do when a OTA comes.. how do i update my nexus to the new OTA?? so i just flash a rom thats on the OTA thats it?

P.Mobile said:
i still dont understand.. what i have to do when a OTA comes.. how do i update my nexus to the new OTA?? so i just flash a rom thats on the OTA thats it?
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it depends on how much modding you have done to your phone.
1) just root and still stock recovery - nothing it will download and install properly
2) just root AND custom recovery - it will download correctly, but when the phone reboots to install, you will need to manually find the OTA file and install it
3) any system modifications - the ota will not install and you will need to go back to the stock rom
4) custom rom installed - you need to either a) wait for the rom to be updated to the OTA version or b) return to stock.

Zepius said:
thats not entirely true.
you can still have a custom recovery, but when the OTA asks you to reboot to install, it only takes you to the recovery screen and you need to find the file and flash it manually.
it will install fine however using a custom recovery.
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Yes this I know but an ota also can include an updated recovery. Im trying mainly to convey ota +root not a good idea if you don't know what you're doing
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Zepius said:
it depends on how much modding you have done to your phone.
1) just root and still stock recovery - nothing it will download and install properly
2) just root AND custom recovery - it will download correctly, but when the phone reboots to install, you will need to manually find the OTA file and install it
3) any system modifications - the ota will not install and you will need to go back to the stock rom
4) custom rom installed - you need to either a) wait for the rom to be updated to the OTA version or b) return to stock.
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thanks.. so this is waaayyy dif then any phone i ever had b4... i had the gs4 and the htc one... dont kno if u ever had any of them phone but when an OTA was sent out... i was always rooted with custom recovery/rom... so what we would have to do is... wait for a dev to make a zip for rooted folks.. they would take out the stock recovery and anything else that would change the hboot..... so i would just flash that zip with would have new firmware/radio/prl ect.. then i would flash a rom that based on the new OTA...im rooted custom rom.. custom recovery.. if and when a OTA comes... all i have to do to udate to the new ota is wait for the rom dev to make the rom on the new ota and im good.. that seems so easy!! it was always a project on other phones.. u could never just flash the new ota rom thats it.. u would have to flash a zip with firwmware/radio/prl ect.. so when google send a OTA out with a new radio.. i dont need to uodate my phone to that radio? it will be in the rom thats on the new ota?

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thanks.. so this is waaayyy dif then any phone i ever had b4... i had the gs4 and the htc one... dont kno if u ever had any of them phone but when an OTA was sent out... i was always rooted with custom recovery/rom... so what we would have to do is... wait for a dev to make a zip for rooted folks
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No that's exactly the same. If you have a CUSTOM rom, wait for dev to update his rom and flash it.
If you have a stock rooted but unmodified rom, you can have ota (but wouldn't recommend it). This is same as S4, S3 etc...
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rootSU said:
No that's exactly the same. If you have a CUSTOM rom, wait for dev to update his rom and flash it.
If you have a stock rooted but unmodified rom, you can have ota (but wouldn't recommend it). This is same as S4, S3 etc...
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s4 i had to flash the radio sperate

rootSU said:
No that's exactly the same. If you have a CUSTOM rom, wait for dev to update his rom and flash it.
If you have a stock rooted but unmodified rom, you can have ota (but wouldn't recommend it). This is same as S4, S3 etc...
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on the s4 u cant just flash the rom that on the new OTA and thats it... i had to flash a firmware/radio zip.. then u flash the rom thats on the new ota

Im all set now!! LiquidSolstice spit his knowledge to me.. now i understand how it works on nexus phones... alot diff then htc..samsung.. thanks LiquidSolstice:good:

Hmmm much confusion in this thread. I come from Samsung and HTC. What I have said is universal. I cannot understand what you have read to the contrary so lets just forget it now - but in regards to flashing custom roms, flashing radios and receiving OTA updates - the principles of this phone are the same as every other android phone.
Probably have a read of the sticky thread at the top of the q&a. Lots of root information to help understand things
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OTA Updates?

I have somewhat of a newbie question! I have a couple questions when it comes to OTA updates from Google ...
I've rooted my Nexus 5, and installed a couple extras and I'm curious if anything I've installed will prevent the OTA update from Google being pushed to my phone ...
I'm currently running stock Android 4.4.4 build number KTU84Q (I installed this build number from an App called Nexus Update on the Play Store. Originally my build number was KTU84P) ... I've also installed the latest Google Play Store apk 5.0.38, installed Busybox 1.20.2-cm9, CWM Recovery Touch 6.0.something (I forget the version number, its the newest one anyway), and also running Francisco Franco's kernel r63 (although I modified a couple files in the /system folder that he suggests so that OTA updates will push still).
So with all that jazz happening on my Nexus 5, my question is will I still receive the OTA updates from Google? I'm only concerned about stock Lollipop. If you think OTA updates won't push to my phone, what do I need to revert back to? Stock kernel? Stock recovery? Uninstall Busybox?
(*I do know that everything will revert back to Stock Android (kernel and recovery) and I may lose root in the process when /if I install the OTA update, but I'm fine with that)
Thanks for your advice in advance!

[Info] Rooted user? Learn to update properly
[INFO] Nexus 5 OTA Help-Desk

since you have root, why the heck do you need an ota? thats the question you want to ask yourself. why not just install an aosp/stock rooted build when its available(hours after its made public)? http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-rooted-user-learn-to-update-t2927876

Thank you!
I'll be honest though, I made this post before I read through the forums ... Call me lazy, but it seemed quicker to me to post a topic rather than to look one up. I apologize for making a thread when I could have searched for the answer ...
My bad
(Your not all gonna chastise me to death now ... are you? )

kjisaac said:
Thank you!
I'll be honest though, I made this post before I read through the forums ... Call me lazy, but it seemed quicker to me to post a topic rather than to look one up. I apologize for making a thread when I could have searched for the answer ...
My bad
(Your not all gonna chastise me to death now ... are you? )
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chastise, no. but taking your right pinky finger will help :silly:

You will see an "update available" in your notifications but it won't install due to you modifying the phone.
I would just wait for a deodexed ROM to come out with root and busybox like in my signature. Easy and simple.

[Q] Custom ROM & Future OTA updates

Hello All,
I havent been on XDA for quite some time, I used to flash Cyanogen ROMs pretty much daily a few years ago (on my HTC Hero!).
I now have a Nexus 5 and am frustratingly waiting for an Android Lollipop OTA update which hasn't arrived yet! I am tempted to flash a 5.0 ROM, but wanted to ask if by doing so I will stop receiving future OTA updates from google i.e 5.1 whenever its released. Apologies if this is a dumb question... I've been out of the customisation game for a long time!
Thanks
Calico

wrong forum. you posted in development section. this belongs in q/a section. but yes, if you flash a custom rom you will not get otas.

thegtfusion said:
wrong forum. you posted in development section. this belongs in q/a section. but yes, if you flash a custom rom you will not get otas.
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Sorry, hopefully a mod can move it to the correct section
Ahh... that does complicate things. I don't have as much free time as I used to so I may just stick it out and wait for the official OTA.
Thanks for the reply!