OTA Updates? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have somewhat of a newbie question! I have a couple questions when it comes to OTA updates from Google ...
I've rooted my Nexus 5, and installed a couple extras and I'm curious if anything I've installed will prevent the OTA update from Google being pushed to my phone ...
I'm currently running stock Android 4.4.4 build number KTU84Q (I installed this build number from an App called Nexus Update on the Play Store. Originally my build number was KTU84P) ... I've also installed the latest Google Play Store apk 5.0.38, installed Busybox 1.20.2-cm9, CWM Recovery Touch 6.0.something (I forget the version number, its the newest one anyway), and also running Francisco Franco's kernel r63 (although I modified a couple files in the /system folder that he suggests so that OTA updates will push still).
So with all that jazz happening on my Nexus 5, my question is will I still receive the OTA updates from Google? I'm only concerned about stock Lollipop. If you think OTA updates won't push to my phone, what do I need to revert back to? Stock kernel? Stock recovery? Uninstall Busybox?
(*I do know that everything will revert back to Stock Android (kernel and recovery) and I may lose root in the process when /if I install the OTA update, but I'm fine with that)
Thanks for your advice in advance!

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[INFO] Nexus 5 OTA Help-Desk

since you have root, why the heck do you need an ota? thats the question you want to ask yourself. why not just install an aosp/stock rooted build when its available(hours after its made public)? http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-rooted-user-learn-to-update-t2927876

Thank you!
I'll be honest though, I made this post before I read through the forums ... Call me lazy, but it seemed quicker to me to post a topic rather than to look one up. I apologize for making a thread when I could have searched for the answer ...
My bad
(Your not all gonna chastise me to death now ... are you? )

kjisaac said:
Thank you!
I'll be honest though, I made this post before I read through the forums ... Call me lazy, but it seemed quicker to me to post a topic rather than to look one up. I apologize for making a thread when I could have searched for the answer ...
My bad
(Your not all gonna chastise me to death now ... are you? )
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chastise, no. but taking your right pinky finger will help :silly:

You will see an "update available" in your notifications but it won't install due to you modifying the phone.
I would just wait for a deodexed ROM to come out with root and busybox like in my signature. Easy and simple.

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Here's the 2.1 link from Sprint

WWW.htc.com/us/support/hero-sprint/downloads/ FINALLY
Ummm.......
This is almost as bad as the "hey it looks like 2.1will be released on such and such a date" threads
I had a bit of trouble with the link opening into an email so i reposted it. Thanks.
link
Well, if you're rooted - I wouldn't do this. I don't know if you'll ever be able to get root again.
If you're not rooted - I'm not quite sure why you're here.
there is already three threads for this. download is very slow. anybody mirror yet?
Lets say I rooted my phone just so I could use the 2.1 ROMs people have here before the release, and I don't care if my phone is rooted or not, can I just install this ROM on a rooted phone or does it need to be "de-rooted" first?
celato said:
Lets say I rooted my phone just so I could use the 2.1 ROMs people have here before the release, and I don't care if my phone is rooted or not, can I just install this ROM on a rooted phone or does it need to be "de-rooted" first?
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As long as you don't care if you ever see root again, you can run the RUU no matter how you have your phone configured.
At OP,
I merged both threads that you created for this subject. Please do not double post. Thanks.

[Q] Kernel Source Code from htcDev

Guys,
I just bought Desire S 2 days ago. It came with GB 2.3 & sense 2.1. I just checked out http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/ & it has kernel source code for Desire S. Does this mean, I can flash the kernel to my device & it will be updated to GB 2.6.3?
Does kernel means android version here ??
Your device already contains the kernel. You can check for updates from your Settings -> About -> Software update it will pop-up if there is any. On stock phone there is no need to flash anything it comes out of the box
And the android version is generally defined by the OS not by the kernel
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
amidabuddha said:
Your device already contains the kernel. You can check for updates from your Settings -> About -> Software update it will pop-up if there is any. On stock phone there is no need to flash anything it comes out of the box
And the android version is generally defined by the OS not by the kernel
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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I got that but my question is , if I flash the kernel(2.6.5) I downloaded from htcdev site, will this update my gingerbread from 2.3 to 2.6.5 or I could update it only over OTA. ?
abhishekoza said:
I got that but my question is , if I flash the kernel(2.6.5) I downloaded from htcdev site, will this update my gingerbread from 2.3 to 2.6.5 or I could update it only over OTA. ?
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What you're seeing on the HCDev site is the kernel source code... that is used by kernel devs to cook up kernels... you can't as an end user just flash the entire source!! It's not the kernel, it's the source. And anyway, kernel has nothing to do with upgrading you to a higher version of any OS... that's what a ROM does.
If you're asking these sort of questions, you hazard a very big chance of bricking your 2 day old device, so as a friendly advice, I'd suggest you do a looooot of reading in the Index and the Guide threads before attempting any kind of flashing. From your posts, I see you're pretty inexperienced with android and a good knowledge base built before attempting all sorts of crazy flashing will keep your device safe from inadvertent bricking.
Read a bit more...ask questions and get answers...and then it'll be happy flashing for you!:good:
BTW, have you even S-off'ed and rooted your device? How were you planning to flash the kernel (...source!!):cyclops:
enigmaamit said:
What you're seeing on the HCDev site is the kernel source code... that is used by kernel devs to cook up kernels... you can't as an end user just flash the entire source!! It's not the kernel, it's the source. And anyway, kernel has nothing to do with upgrading you to a higher version of any OS... that's what a ROM does.
If you're asking these sort of questions, you hazard a very big chance of bricking your 2 day old device, so as a friendly advice, I'd suggest you do a looooot of reading in the Index and the Guide threads before attempting any kind of flashing. From your posts, I see you're pretty inexperienced with android and a good knowledge base built before attempting all sorts of crazy flashing will keep your device safe from inadvertent bricking.
Read a bit more...ask questions and get answers...and then it'll be happy flashing for you!:good:
BTW, have you even S-off'ed and rooted your device? How were you planning to flash the kernel (...source!!):cyclops:
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Thanks. that really helped. And yes I am noob with android. I had an LG optimus black few months ago & it did not had anything like S-ON or S-OFF. I just rooted it & used to flash a lot of ROMS.
I think I need to read a lot about Desire S before I flash anything.
One more question, is there any other way to officially update to GB 2.5 apart from OTA. I have a very slow 2g connection on my device & it will take forever to download some 230 MB of data.
Thanks again.
abhishekoza said:
Thanks. that really helped. And yes I am noob with android. I had an LG optimus black few months ago & it did not had anything like S-ON or S-OFF. I just rooted it & used to flash a lot of ROMS.
I think I need to read a lot about Desire S before I flash anything.
One more question, is there any other way to officially update to GB 2.5 apart from OTA. I have a very slow 2g connection on my device & it will take forever to download some 230 MB of data.
Thanks again.
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Apart from updating via ota, there is no 'official' way of updating to a higher os. You don't have to download the ota over your mobile data connection. Wi-Fi is always preferred.
I would still recommend getting s-off and then flashing custom Roms. It is way better and more efficient than official updates which always leave out some thing to be desired. Custom Roms like Endymion take care of all those issues.
Swyped from my Galaxy S3.

[Q] Updating my new Desire S

Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
SimonTS said:
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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i know, im asking just because im new and not secure of the routine to follow. thanks anyway
el_d4rio said:
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
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If you haven't messed with your phone, i.e. rooted it, flashed any fancy thirty party rom, etc, and the phone is running official HTC ROM and in the exact same state as you bought it, I'd suggest OTA and upgrade to official ICS since you are new to android. Go to setting - about phone then update from there.
If you'd like to try other ROMs then there's plenty guide in this forum already.
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
el_d4rio said:
My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
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Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
amidabuddha said:
Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
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Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
el_d4rio said:
Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
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If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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So why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Going custom i guess it's the only way, because htc is not going to update anymore, so better learn how to.
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
el_d4rio said:
so why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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Yes you can root your current software (the stock one) if you need just root for an app or something specific without changing the software.
But going custom means to run Android and Sense version which you will never have officially. And they all come pre-rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire S
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
el_d4rio said:
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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They have different versions, because they are ported from different devices and there are difference between them. Not only visual but also performance.
More info about each ROM you will find in the first post of its thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire S
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
el_d4rio said:
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
jugg1es said:
The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
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Ok, and for saving an image of my stock ROM, just in case i need to go back?
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
Jack_R1 said:
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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don't worry i'm not offended... i read most of the stuff and guides out here, not taking just a minute to post the thread and having everyhting done by someone else.. i just needed directions! Anyway, if you don't want this kinda stuff in the forum, just put it in the registration form, newbies not accepted, and the prolem is solved
There is another thing that's floating around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
yup

I guess we better wait....

Hi guys ! This is my 4th Galaxy and every time first thing I've done before ROOT -->CWM--->FULL Back up within CWM--> Unlock with CODE--> Install CM --> Enjoy
That was my formula always and with it I'd be able to save Stock/Rooted fresh OS in case something needs to be done and because I did it with CWM it's really easy to restore. But this time I think I'll hold my horses. Too much chatter about things that was not a problem before ...some OTA updates, lock bootloader, etc. Can anyone create post that cannot be replied to with Q/A that matters and update it as more info become available. I mean questions like should I OTA update (if one available), is good root method available or not, is CWM available etc. Just a few things that EVERYONE in here needs to know. Because as of right now everything is a mess. Bootloader hacked ..but it's not REALLY hacked ...no CWM on official page yet ...some sim unlock method available (non code) etc. I got this nice device and REALLY want to do above formula and start enjoying my i337 but because so many questions and no proper answers I can't. So I guess what I am saying Moderator create Office Q and A that CANNOT be replied to and just update with latest info that checked and working properly. Because too much noise right now. I hope I am not alone asking for some clarity.
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That hurt my head.
russiandivxclub said:
Hi guys ! This is my 4th Galaxy and every time first thing I've done before ROOT -->CWM--->FULL Back up within CWM--> Unlock with CODE--> Install CM --> Enjoy
That was my formula always and with it I'd be able to save Stock/Rooted fresh OS in case something needs to be done and because I did it with CWM it's really easy to restore. But this time I think I'll hold my horses. Too much chatter about things that was not a problem before ...some OTA updates, lock bootloader, etc. Can anyone create post that cannot be replied to with Q/A that matters and update it as more info become available. I mean questions like should I OTA update (if one available), is good root method available or not, is CWM available etc. Just a few things that EVERYONE in here needs to know. Because as of right now everything is a mess. Bootloader hacked ..but it's not REALLY hacked ...no CWM on official page yet ...some sim unlock method available (non code) etc. I got this nice device and REALLY want to do above formula and start enjoying my i337 but because so many questions and no proper answers I can't. So I guess what I am saying Moderator create Office Q and A that CANNOT be replied to and just update with latest info that checked and working properly. Because too much noise right now. I hope I am not alone asking for some clarity.
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Or you could take a little of your precious time to read what is already posted...but I understand how you have better things to do.
There is no real "clarity" of it. It is what it is for now. There are plenty of discussion and info about everything here.
Let's keep all of it out of this thread for now.

When will I get 4.4.1?

The camera improvements sounds nice but.. It's been a few days and my Nexus 5 still hasn't updated yet. Is this just me or what?
Lord Cohliani said:
The camera improvements sounds nice but.. It's been a few days and my Nexus 5 still hasn't updated yet. Is this just me or what?
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No, it's not just you. If you're tired of waiting, you can easily sideload the update. If that's something you need help with, there are other threads on this forum that discuss it in more detail. You can also do a Google search for "How to sideload Kitkat 4.4.1 on the Nexus 5" and you'll see detailed, step-by-step instructions in the first link that comes up in the results. It worked for me on my first try and it's a lot quicker than waiting for the OTA update to arrive.
Why don't you just side load it? There are tutorials here that will help you out. The OTA is already available for download as a zip file. you just need to have adb up and running and you're good to go.
Eh I'm lazy. How hard is it to get a custom recovery on the Nexus 5? I haven't looked into it but my previous HTC phone was a terror.
Please read the existing threads, especially the stuck threads at the top of the forums... There's no need to create a new thread for this.
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