[Q] Kernel Source Code from htcDev - HTC Desire S

Guys,
I just bought Desire S 2 days ago. It came with GB 2.3 & sense 2.1. I just checked out http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/ & it has kernel source code for Desire S. Does this mean, I can flash the kernel to my device & it will be updated to GB 2.6.3?
Does kernel means android version here ??

Your device already contains the kernel. You can check for updates from your Settings -> About -> Software update it will pop-up if there is any. On stock phone there is no need to flash anything it comes out of the box
And the android version is generally defined by the OS not by the kernel
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amidabuddha said:
Your device already contains the kernel. You can check for updates from your Settings -> About -> Software update it will pop-up if there is any. On stock phone there is no need to flash anything it comes out of the box
And the android version is generally defined by the OS not by the kernel
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I got that but my question is , if I flash the kernel(2.6.5) I downloaded from htcdev site, will this update my gingerbread from 2.3 to 2.6.5 or I could update it only over OTA. ?

abhishekoza said:
I got that but my question is , if I flash the kernel(2.6.5) I downloaded from htcdev site, will this update my gingerbread from 2.3 to 2.6.5 or I could update it only over OTA. ?
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What you're seeing on the HCDev site is the kernel source code... that is used by kernel devs to cook up kernels... you can't as an end user just flash the entire source!! It's not the kernel, it's the source. And anyway, kernel has nothing to do with upgrading you to a higher version of any OS... that's what a ROM does.
If you're asking these sort of questions, you hazard a very big chance of bricking your 2 day old device, so as a friendly advice, I'd suggest you do a looooot of reading in the Index and the Guide threads before attempting any kind of flashing. From your posts, I see you're pretty inexperienced with android and a good knowledge base built before attempting all sorts of crazy flashing will keep your device safe from inadvertent bricking.
Read a bit more...ask questions and get answers...and then it'll be happy flashing for you!:good:
BTW, have you even S-off'ed and rooted your device? How were you planning to flash the kernel (...source!!):cyclops:

enigmaamit said:
What you're seeing on the HCDev site is the kernel source code... that is used by kernel devs to cook up kernels... you can't as an end user just flash the entire source!! It's not the kernel, it's the source. And anyway, kernel has nothing to do with upgrading you to a higher version of any OS... that's what a ROM does.
If you're asking these sort of questions, you hazard a very big chance of bricking your 2 day old device, so as a friendly advice, I'd suggest you do a looooot of reading in the Index and the Guide threads before attempting any kind of flashing. From your posts, I see you're pretty inexperienced with android and a good knowledge base built before attempting all sorts of crazy flashing will keep your device safe from inadvertent bricking.
Read a bit more...ask questions and get answers...and then it'll be happy flashing for you!:good:
BTW, have you even S-off'ed and rooted your device? How were you planning to flash the kernel (...source!!):cyclops:
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Thanks. that really helped. And yes I am noob with android. I had an LG optimus black few months ago & it did not had anything like S-ON or S-OFF. I just rooted it & used to flash a lot of ROMS.
I think I need to read a lot about Desire S before I flash anything.
One more question, is there any other way to officially update to GB 2.5 apart from OTA. I have a very slow 2g connection on my device & it will take forever to download some 230 MB of data.
Thanks again.

abhishekoza said:
Thanks. that really helped. And yes I am noob with android. I had an LG optimus black few months ago & it did not had anything like S-ON or S-OFF. I just rooted it & used to flash a lot of ROMS.
I think I need to read a lot about Desire S before I flash anything.
One more question, is there any other way to officially update to GB 2.5 apart from OTA. I have a very slow 2g connection on my device & it will take forever to download some 230 MB of data.
Thanks again.
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Apart from updating via ota, there is no 'official' way of updating to a higher os. You don't have to download the ota over your mobile data connection. Wi-Fi is always preferred.
I would still recommend getting s-off and then flashing custom Roms. It is way better and more efficient than official updates which always leave out some thing to be desired. Custom Roms like Endymion take care of all those issues.
Swyped from my Galaxy S3.

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Milestone: Froyo possible?

Since we have no Milestone Subforum I post here.
Is it possible to create a Froyo ROM for the Milestone from unofficial channels - or is it impossible since the boot loader is not hacked?
Highly doubtful since there's no kernel source available for the motorola milestone but mssmision has successfully ported Cyanogen 5.7 to the milestone so it "could" be possible using the same technic he used.
edit: Your posting in the wrong section of the forums, Xda has a "answer and question" forum area for query's like these.
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Rafyvitto
^ that is incorrect. The Kernel Source is available. The only reason that there hasn't been any Custom ROM development is the bootloader which is locked and checks for ROM signature before flashing and therefore, makes any Custom ROM flashing with the traditional method impossible.
Source:
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/projects.milestone/frs.milestone
would it be possible for someone to port the stock nexus version of froyo to the milestone?
What about the bootloader of the Droid? Since the Droid is an US version of the Milestone and vice versa?
In this thread:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hacking-modding-fuer-motorola-milestone/28729-custom-rom-project.html
Mssmison says about the Milestone:
Coming from an windows mobile device that we ported Android too, I was sure that not having bootloader access wouldn't restrict 3rd party roms. So as proof of concept I've put together a port of CM mod's latest 5.07.
It's currently 'in progress' and I'm looking for someone to help me finish it up.
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I belive if we can get any custom rom on the Milestone it would pave the road for a Froyo-rom in the future.
ady said:
^ that is incorrect. The Kernel Source is available. The only reason that there hasn't been any Custom ROM development is the bootloader which is locked and checks for ROM signature before flashing and therefore, makes any Custom ROM flashing with the traditional method impossible.
Source:
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/go/projects.milestone/frs.milestone
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You think idk about the lock't bootloader withing the milestone...lol, btw nice copy paste, google is your best friend, i dint mention the lock't bootloader cause its been proven Dext3r that rom cooking for the milestone is very possible, and mssmison has alredy ported the latest Cyanogen rom, few things arent working properly BUT its a FACT that ROM COOKING is VERY POSSIBLE for the motorola milestone.
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Rafyvitto
Hopefully Motorola will come up with a 2.2 update for the Milestone. It is their #1 phone at this point and it seems highly improbable that they will not get us FroYo.
they already said that it is coming i say in the next two weeks we get it or a port of it.
check my post and get app2sd workin on ur milestone telus included http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692367
I do not understand the comment about Custom ROM flashing being impossible.
I have a Milestone running a custom 2.1 ROM, using the procedure at droidforums.net/forum/motorola-milestone/31296-how-get-2-1-your-milestone.html.
The only requirement is that you start with a rooted 2.0.1, which was possible several months ago.
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You think idk about the lock't bootloader withing the milestone...lol, btw nice copy paste, google is your best friend, i dint mention the lock't bootloader cause its been proven Dext3r that rom cooking for the milestone is very possible, and mssmison has alredy ported the latest Cyanogen rom, few things arent working properly BUT its a FACT that ROM COOKING is VERY POSSIBLE for the motorola milestone.
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Rafyvitto
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Relax. This is not world of warcraft. I only corrected what you said. No need to start a flame war.
Now the bootloader has been cracked I would expect a port fairly soon!!!
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-news/48916-milestone-bootloader-broken.html
awesome news maybe now we will get a sub forum milestone +1
Awesome, that much closer to 2.2?
Cool. Anyone tried it yet?
sdmorris said:
I do not understand the comment about Custom ROM flashing being impossible.
I have a Milestone running a custom 2.1 ROM, using the procedure at droidforums.net/forum/motorola-milestone/31296-how-get-2-1-your-milestone.html.
The only requirement is that you start with a rooted 2.0.1, which was possible several months ago.
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To clarify:
1) The nandroid backup you loaded onto your Milestone, I guarantee you, is of someone's stock Motorola ROM with root and mods. The ROM is not custom in the sense that anyone actually rewrote and recompiled it.
2) There is no need to have a rooted 2.0.1 to accomplish what you did. All you need is to flash the rootable recovery SBF to whichever stock ROM is currently on the phone (2.0.1, 2.1, any locale), and then you can apply the update.zip which loads ADBRecovery and makes nandroid backup/restores possible.
AFAIK the kexec attack does not mean that the bootloader is hacked.
But it is possibly a way around the bootloader using the existing android to kickstart the installation of another ROM.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
christine600 said:
AFAIK the kexec attack does not mean that the bootloader is hacked.
But it is possibly a way around the bootloader using the existing android to kickstart the installation of another ROM.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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You're very right. kexec is a way around the locked bootloader that shows promise but is still far from workable.
To everyone else, especially those posting 'zomg u can instll custom roms i already did' and whatnot do yourself a favour and read this: http://and-developers.com/motorola_milestone

[Q] what is custom ROMs?

hi htc desire s fans,
i just bought my device a month ago, and i got crazy when i saw the news that said that desire s will receive htc sense 3.0 and android 3.3.5,but i am sick of waiting, then i saw the guys here talking about installing thesis updates on there devices without waiting for the official update but i can't understand the steps they provide. so if any one can kindly explain in details how to install this updates or refer to a thread with the same topic will be great.
also a brief about the meaning of the custom ROM will be appropriated
thank you guys.
Well i have desire s and android at all one month too. From what i have learnt i can tell you in short: you must do S-off,root your phone and than flash new custom rom with new sence and android. Tutorials are here - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
I am afraid i cant tell you more,because i am not expert on that,maybe somebody else could
thanks mmarekk11 for your help,
i hate reading but i have to, cuz this is the only way and it seems interesting
You should find all the answers here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401
moh86fci said:
hi htc desire s fans,
i just bought my device a month ago, and i got crazy when i saw the news that said that desire s will receive htc sense 3.0 and android 3.3.5,but i am sick of waiting, then i saw the guys here talking about installing thesis updates on there devices without waiting for the official update but i can't understand the steps they provide. so if any one can kindly explain in details how to install this updates or refer to a thread with the same topic will be great.
also a brief about the meaning of the custom ROM will be appropriated
thank you guys.
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I am not so much advanced and that is why i want to ask if it is possible to do S-On after rootig and flashing new ROM - and of course root and custom ROM would stay. I want to know that for the case i fire eMMC chip on rooted device and in service i would want repair under warranty. You know maybe they just take a look at S-on and say warranty is ok.
So is it possible or is that a nonsence?
Custom rom explained as
Stock ROM
A stock ROM is the version of the phone's operating system that comes with your phone when you buy it.
Custom Rom
A custom ROM is a fully standalone version of the OS, including the kernel (which makes everything run), apps, services, etc - everything you need to operate the device, except it's customized by someone in some way.
So what does the "customized" part mean? Since Android is open source, developers are free to take stock ROMs, modify them, strip them of garbage, optimize them, add things, and pretty much do whatever their imagination and skills allow.

I have a rooted HTC Sensation, is it ok to update to stock 4.0?

So my friend rooted my phone for me and installed a custom rom that supports a language I needed (arabic).
It turns out that the 4.0 carries that language and I have been having a lot of problem with the current rom. If I want to upgrade to 4.0 how can go on with this?
Also, I would like to stay rooted because from what I understand, if I am rooted the phone is unlocked and I am planning on going overseas for a month and so it would be nice to have a unlocked phone with me.
I really appreciate all the help guys thanks!
First of all, there is no stock 4.0, unless you mean ICS 4.0.x. Because of the vague information, I assumed you meant sense 4.0.
Second of all, you need to provide some info, and why can't your friend fix it for you? I have no idea what's currently on your phone. If you're running gingerbread, then you'll have to do a firmware update + rom update. You've provided us the fact that your friend put a rom on there for you. That does not help one bit. What rom? and again, why can't he fix it? Normally, it's pretty easy to update the rom, there are tons of instructions provided in the forums. I would suggest looking around. The only hard part for you may be the firmware updating... Since you appear to have no idea what rom you're running, myself and others won't know how to help at all. You want to update to this "4.0" with little to no information provided. Fyi, phone rooted does not mean the phone is unlocked. You'll have to double check that, Good luck!
ps. your title is even more confusing. Are you getting the 4.0 OTA and asking if it's okay to update? or are you asking HOW to update? I'm assuming you're asking how to update lol
Ermm, this type of question (correcting: exactly this question) had been asked (and answered) a couple of times
KAwAtA said:
First of all, there is no stock 4.0, unless you mean ICS 4.0.x. Because of the vague information, I assumed you meant sense 4.0.
Second of all, you need to provide some info, and why can't your friend fix it for you? I have no idea what's currently on your phone. If you're running gingerbread, then you'll have to do a firmware update + rom update. You've provided us the fact that your friend put a rom on there for you. That does not help one bit. What rom? and again, why can't he fix it? Normally, it's pretty easy to update the rom, there are tons of instructions provided in the forums. I would suggest looking around. The only hard part for you may be the firmware updating... Since you appear to have no idea what rom you're running, myself and others won't know how to help at all. You want to update to this "4.0" with little to no information provided. Fyi, phone rooted does not mean the phone is unlocked. You'll have to double check that, Good luck!
ps. your title is even more confusing. Are you getting the 4.0 OTA and asking if it's okay to update? or are you asking HOW to update? I'm assuming you're asking how to update lol
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I apologize for being vague here are info on my phone.
I am on Android Version 2.3.7
Baseband version: 10.56.9035.00
Kernal Version 2.6.35.13_CyangenMod+
Mod Version: CyanogenMod-7.1.0-SelfKANG10-Sensation
Build Number: GRJ22
I am trying to update to the new version which is ICS for my sensation. I am not sure if it's out or not though.
I guess my question is:
Do I have to unroot my phone to use ICS?
if not, can you please point me to where I can follow a guide to do this?
doc2142 said:
I apologize for being vague here are info on my phone.
I am on Android Version 2.3.7
Baseband version: 10.56.9035.00
Kernal Version 2.6.35.13_CyangenMod+
Mod Version: CyanogenMod-7.1.0-SelfKANG10-Sensation
Build Number: GRJ22
I am trying to update to the new version which is ICS for my sensation. I am not sure if it's out or not though.
I guess my question is:
Do I have to unroot my phone to use ICS?
if not, can you please point me to where I can follow a guide to do this?
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Since you are unsure of what you are doing, I wouldn't advise you to try since you do run the risk of "Bricking" your device if something goes wrong - Your Choice!
Having stated that, if you really do want to install ICS:
1. Install firmware 3.32 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
2. Install a CUSTOM Recovery.
3. Choose your ROM - There are a few Sense 3.6 ROMs but no Sense 4.0 with no bugs (FAIK).
You should really Search the Development thread and choose a ROM which suits YOU as everyones needs/wants are slightly different. Most ROMs tell you what you need to install and there already guides on how to do it.
You could follow the guide from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
Here are also a couple of good thread with tons of info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542555
ROOTING only unlocks the ability to change files stored anywhere on the phone, you need to SIM UNLOCK if you intend to use a different carrier or possibly in a different country. There is a thread in development on how to do this for free too!!!
Hope this helps
deano309 said:
Since you are unsure of what you are doing, I wouldn't advise you to try since you do run the risk of "Bricking" your device if something goes wrong - Your Choice!
Having stated that, if you really do want to install ICS:
1. Install firmware 3.32 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
2. Install a CUSTOM Recovery.
3. Choose your ROM - There are a few Sense 3.6 ROMs but no Sense 4.0 with no bugs (FAIK).
You should really Search the Development thread and choose a ROM which suits YOU as everyones needs/wants are slightly different. Most ROMs tell you what you need to install and there already guides on how to do it.
You could follow the guide from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
Here are also a couple of good thread with tons of info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542555
ROOTING only unlocks the ability to change files stored anywhere on the phone, you need to SIM UNLOCK if you intend to use a different carrier or possibly in a different country. There is a thread in development on how to do this for free too!!!
Hope this helps
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Following the the author's question, will it be okay to install official ics updates from htc if you using a custom rom?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA
anonymous0612 said:
Following the the author's question, will it be okay to install official ics updates from htc if you using a custom rom?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA
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Not sure why you'd want to do this, when you can just install a room based off of the official release like ARHD. You'd retain root and also get all the awesome features included in the ROM that HTC won't add in there.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA
I've also heard of phones being severely bricked after updating from stock. Actually, I've worked on them. They were galaxy s prevails, though
Sent from my Sensation using XDA
damastah said:
Not sure why you'd want to do this, when you can just install a room based off of the official release like ARHD. You'd retain root and also get all the awesome features included in the ROM that HTC won't add in there.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA
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Does all feature works in ARHD? my worry is that in some custom rom, some features do not work.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA
just install android revolution HD
it offers stock experience but on a custom rom
no modifications have been made to the original rom
All features work including beats audio, face unlock and in summary all features
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
here is the link you will also find link to download full stock rooted

[Q] Updating my new Desire S

Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
SimonTS said:
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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i know, im asking just because im new and not secure of the routine to follow. thanks anyway
el_d4rio said:
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
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If you haven't messed with your phone, i.e. rooted it, flashed any fancy thirty party rom, etc, and the phone is running official HTC ROM and in the exact same state as you bought it, I'd suggest OTA and upgrade to official ICS since you are new to android. Go to setting - about phone then update from there.
If you'd like to try other ROMs then there's plenty guide in this forum already.
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
el_d4rio said:
My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
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Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
amidabuddha said:
Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
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Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
el_d4rio said:
Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
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If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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So why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Going custom i guess it's the only way, because htc is not going to update anymore, so better learn how to.
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
el_d4rio said:
so why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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Yes you can root your current software (the stock one) if you need just root for an app or something specific without changing the software.
But going custom means to run Android and Sense version which you will never have officially. And they all come pre-rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire S
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
el_d4rio said:
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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They have different versions, because they are ported from different devices and there are difference between them. Not only visual but also performance.
More info about each ROM you will find in the first post of its thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire S
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
el_d4rio said:
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
jugg1es said:
The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
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Ok, and for saving an image of my stock ROM, just in case i need to go back?
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
Jack_R1 said:
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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don't worry i'm not offended... i read most of the stuff and guides out here, not taking just a minute to post the thread and having everyhting done by someone else.. i just needed directions! Anyway, if you don't want this kinda stuff in the forum, just put it in the registration form, newbies not accepted, and the prolem is solved
There is another thing that's floating around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
yup

which custom rom ? in android 2.3.4 ?

hiii, i am using android 2.3.4, very basic kind of mobile mts mtag 351. please help me in finding custom rom into it, i searched on xda as well as many other sites by writing the model number of this phone but unable to get any rom as its very normal kind of phone, also can i update it to ics or Jb? please help me in finding suitable rom for this phone. links, software or any other info very much appreciated. thnks in advance
more info in attach image.
Hi, sad to say. There is no development carried out for your device, hence why you were unable to find any custom roms lurking around the internet. Judging by the year model of this device, it is fairly old and let me blast out all the sadness to you.
I highly doubt your device will receive any update.
Same with custom roms, but maybe some dev may get this phone? Idk why.
And may make a custom rom for it.
Sad to say friend, your device is far to outdated to receive ICS or JB or any new Android platform.
Time for you to upgrade if you wish to say in line within the platform standards.
krishneelg3 said:
Hi, sad to say. There is no development carried out for your device, hence why you were unable to find any custom roms lurking around the internet. Judging by the year model of this device, it is fairly old and let me blast out all the sadness to you.
I highly doubt your device will receive any update.
Same with custom roms, but maybe some dev may get this phone? Idk why.
And may make a custom rom for it.
Sad to say friend, your device is far to outdated to receive ICS or JB or any new Android platform.
Time for you to upgrade if you wish to say in line within the platform standards.
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ohh k thanks for the reply well is it not like that i can flash wid any android 2.3.4 custom firmware ? for ex, here are the list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196704, is that work ?
No that's not how it works.
If you flash another devices .IMG or ROM to your device it will brick it. Meaning it will no longer be usable.
Better explained, you can't install a Samsung firmware for your device. It won't work.
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krishneelg3 said:
No that's not how it works.
If you flash another devices .IMG or ROM to your device it will brick it. Meaning it will no longer be usable.
Better explained, you can't install a Samsung firmware for your device. It won't work.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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ohhh,k thanks a lot for the answer that makes thing very clear.

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