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[Q] Best "Smart Stay" app for Nexus 5?

Those of you using a "Smart Stay" app on your Nexus 5, which one are you using. This is the only feature from Galaxy S4 I miss (I kept all the other crap turned off on that phone). I noticed there's a few in the Play Store. What's everyone having the best luck with? I want my screen timeout set at 30 secs, but don't want the screen going off when I've looking at the display. Thanks for any suggestions.
- Jeremy

Wow, nobody is using this feature? Is there another alternative people are using on the N5 to keep the screen on while readings, etc.
Thanks.
- Jeremy

I use Screebl. It's never let me down in several years and on several phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keyes.screebl.lite

I use Gravity Screen. The free version is perfect for me, but I got the donate version because it's a great app.

itmustbejj said:
I use Gravity Screen. The free version is perfect for me, but I got the donate version because it's a great app.
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I'm giving Gravity Screen a try. It sounds pretty promising. I'm having some trouble getting it dialed in though. Any tips? What features of it are you using. I've got the "Turn off when laying flat on the table" option working well. I'm having trouble with setting it for the screen to turn off when phone is in pocket. Default angle is set at like 60 degrees I believe. However with the size of the phone, my phone is more vertical in my pocket.
I'm going to continue to try and tweak it, but thought you might be able to make some suggestions since it sounds like you've been using the app for awhile. Thanks.
- Jeremy

butterbeanmash said:
I use Screebl. It's never let me down in several years and on several phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keyes.screebl.lite
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Sounds interesting as well. At first glance I like the interface of Gravity Screen better, but I'll give this one a try as well. Thanks for the reply!
-Jeremy

Nexus 6 Active Display?

What are the chances of the Nexus 6 having the active display like the Moto X?

falcon26 said:
What are the chances of the Nexus 6 having the active display like the Moto X?
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Id say Zero, that's a Motorola-Only feature.
Also, Leaked images show the display is LCD, not AMOLED.

I'm not sure, I'm still holding out hope for a super amoled

Isn't the Nexus line bare bone stock
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Bare bones? Nope. Stock Nexus is Android with a Google skin.

dicecuber said:
Isn't the Nexus line bare bone stock
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Wakamatsu said:
Bare bones? Nope. Stock Nexus is Android with a Google skin.
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Yes and no. AOSP is bare bones. Stock has a little more Google over and above gapps, but not a great deal
Features from moto and lg that we don't get are proprietary software with hardware dependencies too, so no we won't get them on the nexus X
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Fortunately there are many 3rd party options from the Play Store such as:
DynamicNotifications
AcDisplay
Active Display
Keep in mind only OLED panels can disable individual pixels. Other LCDs require the full screen to be on or off at all times so these could cause considerable battery drain.

bblzd said:
Fortunately there are many 3rd party options from the Play Store such as:
DynamicNotifications
AcDisplay
Active Display
Keep in mind only OLED panels can disable individual pixels. Other LCDs require the full screen to be on or off at all times so these could cause considerable battery drain.
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Yeah. All these apps with the one liks Peek by Franco come close!
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rahulpat13 said:
Yeah. All these apps with the one liks Peek by Franco come close!
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Franco isn't the dev of Peek app but a colombian guy. The app content has been transfered to this guy BTW and the original app is just an unlocker tool now.

Primokorn said:
Franco isn't the dev of Peek app but a colombian guy. The app content has been transfered to this guy BTW and the original app is just an unlocker tool now.
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Looks like PA (moreso, ROMs based off it, or ones that cherry-picked built-in Peek) need to update the code that disables built-in Peek when the app is installed, to reflect the new package name (rather than the unlocker). lol

So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.

y2whisper said:
So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.
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Zero.

y2whisper said:
So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.
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None. ActiveDisplay is a proprietary Motorola software. Google very rarely have added alternatives to complex proprietary functions. It's not completely unheard of (quick tiles for example) but for something that has a hardware limitation and dependency, no way

y2whisper said:
So the real question would be what are the chances of active display being included in L? which there havent been any signs of it in the preview build so again not looking good.
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Even if they did (which they won't because that's owned by Motorola) it would be restricted to OLED screens only. Only OLED screen phones have ever had such functionality built in, such as the Moto X and certain Nokia Windows Phones with Glance support.
What's wrong with using one of the many 3rd party options?

I used DynamicNotifications on my Nexus 5 over 6 months ago. It was buggy and quirky.
My phone would get hot in my pocket and I pulled it out to see whats going on. DynamicNotifications was turning my screen on and off repeatedly for some reason. I don't know how Motorola handles the phone lock but DynamicNotifications' way of locking the phone isn't secure. If I disable the system's security lock and enable DN's, it could be bypassed by turning off the phone and turning back it. It isn't as bullet proof as the system's.

garyHal said:
I used DynamicNotifications on my Nexus 5 over 6 months ago. It was buggy and quirky.
My phone would get hot in my pocket and I pulled it out to see whats going on. DynamicNotifications was turning my screen on and off repeatedly for some reason. I don't know how Motorola handles the phone lock but DynamicNotifications' way of locking the phone isn't secure. If I disable the system's security lock and enable DN's, it could be bypassed by turning off the phone and turning back it. It isn't as bullet proof as the system's.
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You probably set it up wrong.
The Peek app and AcDisplay worked fine for me when I tested them.

bblzd said:
Fortunately there are many 3rd party options from the Play Store such as:
DynamicNotifications
AcDisplay
Active Display
Keep in mind only OLED panels can disable individual pixels. Other LCDs require the full screen to be on or off at all times so these could cause considerable battery drain.
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garyHal said:
I used DynamicNotifications on my Nexus 5 over 6 months ago. It was buggy and quirky.
My phone would get hot in my pocket and I pulled it out to see whats going on. DynamicNotifications was turning my screen on and off repeatedly for some reason. I don't know how Motorola handles the phone lock but DynamicNotifications' way of locking the phone isn't secure. If I disable the system's security lock and enable DN's, it could be bypassed by turning off the phone and turning back it. It isn't as bullet proof as the system's.
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Did you try any of the other options? I listed a couple but there are many more.

I have not tried the other two options. They were not feature complete at the time.
Right now, I am using Gravity Screen which does everything I need, except for the "breathing" notification.

Do you think nexus 5 will get the okay Google with screen off like the nexus 6?

In the change log of android l it mentions it has okay Google with screen off. Does the nexus 5 have the necessary dsp hardware to make that happen?
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biggiestuff said:
In the change log of android l it mentions it has okay Google with screen off. Does the nexus 5 have the necessary dsp hardware to make that happen?
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nexus 5 does that already, as long as your plugged in. turn it on in the voice settings. funny thing though. you can say ok google when the screen is off, and search for anything, but it wont turn the screen on

simms22 said:
nexus 5 does that already, as long as your plugged in.
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Yeah that I know but the change log makes it sound as if it will be more like the moto x, where you wouldn't need to be plugged in.
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biggiestuff said:
Yeah that I know but the change log makes it sound as if it will be more like the moto x, where you wouldn't need to be plugged in.
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its possible. but the nexus 5 wont be able to do it then, as it would just kill your battery.

simms22 said:
its possible. but the nexus 5 wont be able to do it then, as it would just kill your battery.
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I'm guessing the snapdragon 800 isn't capable which is why the moto x opted for at least the 801. Don't know really but I was hoping someone might know. Time will tell I guess.
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Motorola uses the fabled "low power core" to run active display and touchless control. Without that, both features will destroy any devices battery.
Just like the N5 has a pedometer running in a similar way. LG has tap to wake, as does the M8. That's why tap to wake is a huge battery drain on the N5.
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KJ said:
Motorola uses the fabled "low power core" to run active display and touchless control. Without that, both features will destroy any devices battery.
Just like the N5 has a pedometer running in a similar way. LG has tap to wake, as does the M8. That's why tap to wake is a huge battery drain on the N5.
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Double tap to wake drains on the Nexus 5 because you can't just keep the digitizer on, you have to keep the entire panel on. On devices where it doesn't drain, you can power them on separately. Nothing to do with the low-powered core.
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biggiestuff said:
I'm guessing the snapdragon 800 isn't capable which is why the moto x opted for at least the 801. Don't know really but I was hoping someone might know. Time will tell I guess.
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800 is just as capable as the 801. Low-power core is just used for a hardware pedometer instead of "always listening", as well as legal issues if you were to enable it without permission.

Lethargy said:
Double tap to wake drains on the Nexus 5 because you can't just keep the digitizer on, you have to keep the entire panel on. On devices where it doesn't drain, you can power them on separately. Nothing to do with the low-powered core.
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800 is just as capable as the 801. It's just used for a hardware pedometer instead, as well as legal issues if you were to enable it without permission.
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Smarty pants! ?
Alls I know is I have it now and it's terrific. ?

I guess we'll find out soon. Android L is being released Friday for the n5 right? I guess there is no plausible way for lollipop to change the function on the low power core on the n5 to use it for listening instead of a pedometer.
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KJ said:
Smarty pants! ?
Alls I know is I have it now and it's terrific. ?
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Traitor
But yeah. The low-powered core is only good for things that usually require wakelocks (i.e. always listening, music playing, hardware pedometer). Screen-off gestures are done at kernel level and does NOT require a wakelock, so the low-powered core is completely useless in that regard.
Only factor determining if screen-off gestures drains or not is how power is provided to the panel. If it's possible to power the digitizer on separately, then it uses less battery. If you have to power the entire panel on, it'll use more. Either way, it's the exact same thing and not really done much differently across all devices; just make sure the digitizer is powered in any way and wake the device (or whatever) on specific gestures.

biggiestuff said:
I guess we'll find out soon. Android L is being released Friday for the n5 right? I guess there is no plausible way for lollipop to change the function on the low power core on the n5 to use it for listening instead of a pedometer.
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What is being released Friday is an updated preview

scottharris4 said:
What is being released Friday is an updated preview
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Hopefully that have most of the features for us to test out
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I doubt the preview will have all the features. From the looks of it, it doesn't even have most of them. They're saving it for the official release. The preview didn't include the new/updated apps either.
Anyway, the N5 isn't likely to get the feature you're asking about. It has to be enabled and setup with the processor's low power core. I don't think this can happen through an ota. From what I've heard it'll just be the new devices receiving that feature.
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Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
You can find the details in the lollipop specification in android official website
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It does work on my phone, the thing is that have to hit the power button then the lock screen comes up, if you say "okay Google" it does work like call or text but still the screen remain unlock. I haven't tried doing "okay google", " unlock screen"
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Swipe/knock to turn on

I will be getting a note edge and currently my wife has a LG g3 and I love the knock knock feature to turn it on. Does anybody know if the note edge has a similar feature to knock or swipe the side edge screen to turn it on? If not I plan on developing an app to accomplish that, if the sdk allows.

jribbe101 said:
I will be getting a note edge and currently my wife has a LG g3 and I love the knock knock feature to turn it on. Does anybody know if the note edge has a similar feature to knock or swipe the side edge screen to turn it on? If not I plan on developing an app to accomplish that, if the sdk allows.
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I tried but nothing worked. Then again there may be a particular way the swipe gesture works?? I can tell you that the edge screen wakes up if you just rub it right to left.

Thx. I am going to see about building some functionality for that.

Great!
Wish I could develop apps for the edge screen...
I am able to develop 3D live wallpaper using Unity but cant get head around coding.

I am a UI designer, but my guys are programming experts. Usually I am enjoying the fruits of everyone else's labor here! So this time, I am going to put my team in action and make us some cool apps!

Wouldn't the screen have to be kept on ?! I don't mean physically on but wouldn't a layer of the screen have to be on because so it can register input whilst the screen is off ?!
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Don164 said:
Wouldn't the screen have to be kept on ?! I don't mean physically on but wouldn't a layer of the screen have to be on because so it can register input whilst the screen is off ?!
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Yes, the digitizer is on. Just like S-voice that is always listening to you via mic.

xile6 said:
Yes, the digitizer is on. Just like S-voice that is always listening to you via mic.
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I was trying to say wouldn't it be a drain on battery life but it just occured to me that every phone has a similar set up.
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Don164 said:
I was trying to say wouldn't it be a drain on battery life but it just occured to me that every phone has a similar set up.
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yea it does but probably not enough to matter.
Its a standby mode. Any phone that uses knock to wake, swipe to wake, voice etc... will have the sensors in stand by.

xile6 said:
yea it does but probably not enough to matter.
Its a standby mode. Any phone that uses knock to wake, swipe to wake, voice etc... will have the sensors in stand by.
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Thanks for the info. I'm surprised that this kind of app isn't already out. OEMs have released this feature with some of their flagships but why isnt it more mainstream.
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jribbe101 said:
I am a UI designer, but my guys are programming experts. Usually I am enjoying the fruits of everyone else's labor here! So this time, I am going to put my team in action and make us some cool apps!
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Eagerly waiting for your apps!

invisiblesense said:
Eagerly waiting for your apps!
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Me too! I'm eagerly awaiting my phone first!

jribbe101 said:
Me too! I'm eagerly awaiting my phone first!
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Hope you don't have to wait very long. ☺

I would say this regarding battery drain... I have not rooted my wife's G3 and she uses the knock knock feature roughly 100 times per day lets say on average. Her battery has never been less than 45% with super heavy usage. Usually around 73% by the time she gets home at 5:15.
She plays games, Keeps the brightness on 90% (no auto), checks emails/texts/IM a bunch, pinterest, facebook, keeps the gps on, bluetooth off. So I would say it doesn't drain the battery enough to complain about if barely at all. Now, maybe LG built this feature into the firmware or something i don't know about, where it doesn't need the screen and maybe it uses one of the ICs that detect vibration or something.

What are you looking forward to..

On the 6.0 update?
For me...
1. Faster fingerprint reader/unlock animation
2. New keyboard layout
3. Finally having an option to switch to pin code for alternative option if fingerprint isnt working
4. Adjustments on touchwiz
5. Google now on tap
6. New emojis
7.Faster phone ?? (hopefully)

Is speed an issue? My Note5 is smooth and quick. *shrug* Now on Tap is actually pretty cool. I don't use a protective lock screen so I don't know about that. I'd like to be able to activate Samsung Pay with a swipe up from the S-View window, but that won't happen.

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Is speed an issue? My Note5 is smooth and quick. *shrug* Now on Tap is actually pretty cool. I don't use a protective lock screen so I don't know about that. I'd like to be able to activate Samsung Pay with a swipe up from the S-View window, but that won't happen.
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Speed is definitely not an issue lol, but there are somethings that need a speed improvement.. such as the fingerprint reader. I just hope i dont see any lag. Im assuming you use Find my mobile? if you dont use a protective lock screen. And i dont use samsung pay or NFC payment for that matter, but i understand your struggle haha.
I could root my device, but i choose not to. Reason being is it will possibly lose value once Knox has been tripped.

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Speed is definitely not an issue lol, but there are somethings that need a speed improvement.. such as the fingerprint reader. I just hope i dont see any lag. Im assuming you use Find my mobile? if you dont use a protective lock screen. And i dont use samsung pay or NFC payment for that matter, but i understand youre struggle haha.
I could root my device, but i choose not to. Reason being is it will possibly lose value once Knox has been tripped.
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I do use Find my Mobile but I also use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rickclephas.fingersecurity to lock certain apps. It only locks those apps when I am not connected to my WiFi or my cars Bluetooth. Maybe with the new fingerprint API I'll lock the whole phone up.

I also noticed when watching marshmallow beta for s6/s6 edge is that the capacitive buttons dont light up when touching the screen... which is a smart move from samsung. It saves battery and it makes sense. It only lights up when pressing them or when pressing the home button.

PDXMatt said:
I do use Find my Mobile but I also use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rickclephas.fingersecurity to lock certain apps. It only locks those apps when I am not connected to my WiFi or my cars Bluetooth. Maybe with the new fingerprint API I'll lock the whole phone up.
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Thats looks like a really useful app! And yes, really looking forward to the new fingerprint API. We can finally make purchases with just our fingerprint reader on play store, amazon, ebay, etc... hopefully.

I hope they fix the keyboard lag I have with every keyboard.

New emojis?! What are the supposed to look like in 6.0? Also what is Google on tap?

geeshiet said:
I also noticed when watching marshmallow beta for s6/s6 edge is that the capacitive buttons dont light up when touching the screen... which is a smart move from samsung. It saves battery and it makes sense. It only lights up when pressing them or when pressing the home button.
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Actually it makes no sense, whatsoever. The entire point of the capacitive buttons lighting up when you touch the screen is so you can see them in the dark in order to press them.. lighting up when you touch them makes zero sense, why would I need them to do THAT?

ingenious247 said:
Actually it makes no sense, whatsoever. The entire point of the capacitive buttons lighting up when you touch the screen is so you can see them in the dark in order to press them.. lighting up when you touch them makes zero sense, why would I need them to do THAT?
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It only takes about an hour to learn which is which... Its unecessary for the lights to turn on everytime you touch the screen, its just pointless.

geeshiet said:
It only takes about an hour to learn which is which... Its unecessary for the lights to turn on everytime you touch the screen, its just pointless.
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They didn't light up because it was a Beta and the rooted kernel broke it even more on some devices, but made them work better on other devices. There's also mods you can use to just turn them off if you don't like them. Xposed. Or just go into the settings!!!
Also, just because you don't like them being on, doesn't mean that they are pointless. Tests have also been done to see just how much battery life is affected by Capacitive buttons and you can't even tell how much they use.
By the way, a lot of people like myself, work in dark places and have to use our phones. Think about that for a minute.:good:

The only thing I'm looking forward to is a phone that doesn't get an update and have it cause the phone to be worse than before. Right now my stock Note 5 works just fine.
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I'm just looking forward to my ohone being updated at all. Lol

Once we get the update I will be looking forward to no more posts about getting the update..
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pcriz said:
Once we get the update I will be looking forward to no more posts about getting the update..
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Followed by people complaining that the update ruined their phone.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/att-galaxy-note-5-marshmallow-beta-671153/

ingenious247 said:
Actually it makes no sense, whatsoever. The entire point of the capacitive buttons lighting up when you touch the screen is so you can see them in the dark in order to press them.. lighting up when you touch them makes zero sense, why would I need them to do THAT?
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Maybe they could have it only light up when it's dark..

pcriz said:
Once we get the update I will be looking forward to no more posts about getting the update..
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Not going to happen because people will start complaining about not getting Android 7 update

Jammol said:
They didn't light up because it was a Beta and the rooted kernel broke it even more on some devices, but made them work better on other devices. There's also mods you can use to just turn them off if you don't like them. Xposed. Or just go into the settings!!!
Also, just because you don't like them being on, doesn't mean that they are pointless. Tests have also been done to see just how much battery life is affected by Capacitive buttons and you can't even tell how much they use.
By the way, a lot of people like myself, work in dark places and have to use our phones. Think about that for a minute.:good:
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Well judging by the videos people post about MM update or s7 edge with MM, it doesn't light up when touching the screen. Lol.

geeshiet said:
Well judging by the videos people post about MM update or s7 edge with MM, it doesn't light up when touching the screen. Lol.
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You decided to quote me and revive this olds thread. Dang. I'm so sorry.
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