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Been looking around for which microsd card to replace my venue pro one with. definitely want a 32gb one. Pulled up a few, are a lot of people having problems with the class 4 cards? Should I stick with a class 2, even though the 4 is about the same price, or cheaper? Here are the few I found, all around $80. Price doesn't matter, just want the one that will work the best.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...rd/q/sellerid/20451128/loc/101/219031154.html
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSDHC-SDSDQ-032G-A11M-Retail-Package/dp/B003OA8T92/ref=pd_cp_e_1
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk32-g...icrosdhc-1-card-pack/q/loc/101/217020006.html (same card as above)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G60AD6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
I'm 100% sure someone had posted the 32GB MicroSD card S/N they use. I don't remember which post it was, it is somewhere in the Venue Pro General form.
I think class 6 should work. Max Miller at ZDNet has posted a blog about how he swapped a troublesome dvp's 8gb card with 32gb n the dvp is working like a charm after that. It has a video aswell.
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Whats the largest SD card Windows mobile 7 can handle, and if it's less than 128 will it be able to recognize "partitioned" SD cards?
I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.
kharnak said:
I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.
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Why would a slower class work better than a faster class of SD? Class ten is the fastest your able to buy.
If I can buy a class 10 32gb would it work?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...61411-L06D&AID=10657534&PID=749547&SID=forums
I swapped my 8GB class 4 that came with the device to a 32 GB SanDisk class 4. I do notice slower write speeds - 720p video in particular seems to have a lag when capturing. Other than that, the phone is zippy fast.
I bought a Dell Venue Pro (normally hate Dell and don't give them the time of day) and from what i've been reading i'm going to be stuck with a class 2 or 4 (32gb) MicroSD card. And to narrow it down even further supposedly the ones that work best with these phones are sandisk.
So my questions are this. Will I actually be able to use a class 10 microsd card or is it a limitation of the physical phone. I mean windows is capable of 32gb and probably more.
If it isn't able to use class 10 right now will there be a firmware update for the phone that will allow it.
What would happen if i bought a kingston or patriot over sandisk (as i've always considered them the bottom of the pile)
I've been using a 32gb sandisk (class 2) for a couple days now and it's awesome. Despite being class 2, it's way faster than the crappy class 4 that came with the phone.
Random r/w speed is the most important thing to worry about with WP7 devices. Class rating does not say anything at all about random r/w speed, just about the maximum throughput. In fact, there is often a NEGATIVE correlation between class rating and random r/w speed - the higher the class, the lower random r/w.
So that's why class 2, 4, or 6 cards seem to be the best.
so could anyone give me a link of the best 32 gb sd card I can use for my DVP that would be awesome.
the one that came with my phone is starting to fail (constantly getting the black screen with memory card problem and asking me to change cards and reset)
another question
let's say something happens with my phone and I need to send it back for warranty repair, could I possibly switch out the sd card back to the original one, reset and be ok?
So does this phone have a SD card that is expandable? I just got the phone a week ago and thought it was built in and couldn't be changed.
I know class 10 is faster then class 4 or 6, but just wondering if the Sensation takes advantage of a faster card? For example, will recording in 1080p (on the sensation) be better if i get a class 10, versus a class 4 or 6?
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I would like to know people's opinion or facts on this as well. I'm currently looking for a 32GB card to purchase and this information would really help out.
GOOFYXJ said:
I would like to know people's opinion or facts on this as well. I'm currently looking for a 32GB card to purchase and this information would really help out.
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thats why im trying to figure it out. there is a hugh price difference between a class 4 and class 10 32gb.... Im just trying to figure out if our phone actually uses the extra speed of a class 6 or 10... Also, if recording video on 1080p will be better if i go for a class 6 or 10 over a class 4 (which I think came with the phone)..?
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thats why im trying to figure it out. there is a hugh price difference between a class 4 and class 10 32gb.... Im just trying to figure out if our phone actually uses the extra speed of a class 6 or 10... Also, if recording video on 1080p will be better if i go for a class 6 or 10 over a class 4 (which I think came with the phone)..?
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I can say confidently that our phones will perform better using a class 6 over a class 4, but the question of "will our phone use all the speed a class 10 offers?", I can't answer as confident. But I would think that it should not have a problem using a class 10 to its full potential. What class 10 micro are you looking at?
Using Samsung as an example:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGA/US
This is a $55 microSD (it was half off last week on Amazon[Cyber Week]), but the read/write is 24MB/21MB and a class 4 only gets 15MB/7MB(http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-SS4GA/US [this is a SD but of a class 4]).
If anything I would get the class 10 just to be future-proof and avoid having multiple microSD's around the house. I'm using Samsung as a reference and I do not have experience with their memory cards so I am not trying to sell Samsung. I did buy a 16GB class 10 microSD from Sammy via Amazon for Cyber Week (only $30), its being shipped right now, if you want an update I will make another post (class 4 v. class10).
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I can say confidently that our phones will perform better using a class 6 over a class 4, but the question of "will our phone use all the speed a class 10 offers?", I can't answer as confident. But I would think that it should not have a problem using a class 10 to its full potential. What class 10 micro are you looking at?
Using Samsung as an example:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGA/US
This is a $55 microSD (it was half off last week on Amazon[Cyber Week]), but the read/write is 24MB/21MB and a class 4 only gets 15MB/7MB(http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-SS4GA/US [this is a SD but of a class 4]).
If anything I would get the class 10 just to be future-proof and avoid having multiple microSD's around the house. I'm using Samsung as a reference and I do not have experience with their memory cards so I am not trying to sell Samsung. I did buy a 16GB class 10 microSD from Sammy via Amazon for Cyber Week (only $30), its being shipped right now, if you want an update I will make another post (class 4 v. class10).
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thanks. appreciate the info.
on amazon there is a Samsung class 10 16gb for $20 right now. 16gb would be fine right now, but I dont want to be running out of room in 6 months as I like to record video which takes up a ton of room. so thats why im looking for a 32gb (even though i think that will be way more then i actually need).
on amazon i actually dont see any class 6 32gb cards; except for 1 knockoff brand. so it seems like most 32gb cards are either class 2, 4, or 10. i want to go above a class 4, but class 10 are expensive...
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A-Data Class 10 microSD 32GB
bought that one couple of months ago, verry happy with it. was the cheapes one to get back then, about 55€ / 75$
getting 10,5MB/s writing and about 12MB/s reading on USB port. just a little slower than my flash stick...
didnt notice any change while recording videos, but i dont unse the camera that often.
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thanks. appreciate the info.
on amazon there is a Samsung class 10 16gb for $20 right now. 16gb would be fine right now, but I dont want to be running out of room in 6 months as I like to record video which takes up a ton of room. so thats why im looking for a 32gb (even though i think that will be way more then i actually need).
on amazon i actually dont see any class 6 32gb cards; except for 1 knockoff brand. so it seems like most 32gb cards are either class 2, 4, or 10. i want to go above a class 4, but class 10 are expensive...
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If you are in the U.S. Fry's has the 32GB Class 10 for $20 off
http://www.frys.com/product/6786695?psrid=14599570
That probably expensive also, but I could not find a 32GB Class 6 either.
I'm using a class 10 16gb card in my sensation
seems fine, only thing that is fast is displaying pics in gallery
wish I got a class 6 and saved the money, I haven't tried 1080p video....
just tried a 10sec video. Wrote instantly on card and playback instantly too
10sec vid is 13.96mb
so I think a class 6 card can write at 6mb/s where as class 10 writes at 10mb/s
class 6 is fine!
I was in the same position as you are right now.
I did a little bit of reading and decided to buy a good (SanDisk) Class 4 over a cheap (alot of offers from brands I never heard of) Class 10/6.
My reasons:
1. Good card with lower speed = less chance of corruption
2. The read-speeds are ~ identical, since I don´t really use 1080p I don´t need high write-speeds (allthough 1080p records without a problem)
3. Random acces speed on lower class cards is higher, since the high write speed is a trade off between random access speed and write speed.
After reading about all that the decision was easy
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I was in the same position as you are right now.
I did a little bit of reading and decided to buy a good (SanDisk) Class 4 over a cheap (alot of offers from brands I never heard of) Class 10/6.
My reasons:
1. Good card with lower speed = less chance of corruption
2. The read-speeds are ~ identical, since I don´t really use 1080p I don´t need high write-speeds (allthough 1080p records without a problem)
3. Random acces speed on lower class cards is higher, since the high write speed is a trade off between random access speed and write speed.
After reading about all that the decision was easy
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now im really confused...
a good compromise would be a class 6, but obviously i cant find any brand name class 6 32gb.
I dont really know much about random access speed vs write speed....can you enlighten me? are you saying that class 4 is faster in some situations then a class 10?
kboater said:
now im really confused...
a good compromise would be a class 6, but obviously i cant find any brand name class 6 32gb.
I dont really know much about random access speed vs write speed....can you enlighten me? are you saying that class 4 is faster in some situations then a class 10?
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The random access speed is splitted in write and read. It is the speed whith which a random bit can be written/read.
It is the value that determines the performance of an app using SD-Card for data.
So in daily use, there shouldn´t be much difference between class4/6/10. If you want to use your SD for daily putting tons of different stuff on it, you may be better of with a class 10. If you put a lot of Music on it and leave it there, a class 4 is the way to go.
(Anyone correct me, if I´m wrong here, but that is what my research brought up)
I'm the same as Sibbi and am using a good quality (SanDisk, same again) class 4 32GB uSD card.
And I have no problems with it at all, it keeps up with video recording (at full HD) and plays back perfectly.
I suppose the additional speed of a class 10 might make the difference if you were copying GBs of data across the USB cable when loading up the card with music or something (in which case just be patient!) but for normal use I really don't have any issues.
The sensation is a good quality expensive device, so my advice would be to use good quality memory in it for reliability, rather than take the risk lowering the reliability of the handset with lower quality accessories.
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So I've just installed ICS on my N1 and finally the graphical interface has become properly smooth. But that ment repartitionning, which in turn ment I needed to use app2sd. But opening apps now feels slower than before, and I believe the app2sd solution is the problem. I am currently using the 4GB card (class 2?) that I think came with the phone, but new cards are dirt cheap so if anyone knows a card that will be substantially faster I would be interested. The main consern is random access speed I believe, so I feel looking at the rating (class 10 and whatnot) is no use. I was looking at a sandisk mobile ultra card based on this review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html
And I am probably going to buy a 16GB card, maybe 8 or 32 if there is a really good one of those. Any recommendations?
While you're at it, does our Nexus One support UHS-1 cards like this?
tommert38 said:
While you're at it, does our Nexus One support UHS-1 cards like this?
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Not that I really know the answer, but it seems highly unlikely. The cards should work in the phone, but you will probably not be able to use the UHS mode (increased clock-frequency).
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So I've just installed ICS on my N1 and finally the graphical interface has become properly smooth. But that ment repartitionning, which in turn ment I needed to use app2sd. But opening apps now feels slower than before, and I believe the app2sd solution is the problem. I am currently using the 4GB card (class 2?) that I think came with the phone, but new cards are dirt cheap so if anyone knows a card that will be substantially faster I would be interested. The main consern is random access speed I believe, so I feel looking at the rating (class 10 and whatnot) is no use. I was looking at a sandisk mobile ultra card based on this review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html
And I am probably going to buy a 16GB card, maybe 8 or 32 if there is a really good one of those. Any recommendations?
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To answer my own question:
I found this thread, which was quite informative, although full of jabber in between the good posts. And it seems in general the cards with the lowest rated speed perform the best for these purposes, and your safest bet is the sandisk standard class 4 (previously class 2) cards. The samsung class 10 card seems to be a good allrounder, and gives twice the sequential speed at the cost of half the random access speed(this is still more than 10 times higher than most class 10 cards). So I'm probably going to get the sandisk card just to be safe.
Can asus transformer really take advantage of a Class 10 MicroSD card? Or should i just buy a class 4?
The difference in speed is noticeable but it depends on the price difference...
I think so. I have a samsung 32 Giga class 10 and the speed is appreciable.
You can find on amazone for around 35 Euros this type of micro sd
The class Does make a difference, I have a 32 class 8 that works very noticeably better than my class 2 4gb. If you do HD video or heavy file transfer jump for the higher class. Class 6+ should be plenty fast enough for the average user, I'd avoid less than 4 though. Just my thoughts.
from what Ive read on this forum though class 10 write speeds are faster in some devices the way android devices read is different and you actually want something like a class 4. thread is in one of the general forums, title is something about looking for fast 32GB SD cards. That being said I picked up 2 class 4 32GB micro SD cards from newegg when i got this transformer. the second went to my G2X replacing a 16gb class 10 card and i dont notice any loss of speed.
Yea. this is also depending on devices ability in handling class 6 to class 10..
Some older device can only handle 32GB with class 6 max but would give all sort of problems for the same 32GB with class 8 or class 10.
But this TF101 would have no problem for all type of classes available since it's running dual core by default.. So a class 10 would be the best choice to fully utilize TF101 true power and speed..
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Yea. this is also depending on devices ability in handling class 6 to class 10..
Some older device can only handle 32GB with class 6 max but would give all sort of problems for the same 32GB with class 8 or class 10.
But this TF101 would have no problem for all type of classes available since it's running dual core by default.. So a class 10 would be the best choice to fully utilize TF101 true power and speed..
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I have never heard of an older device having issues with faster card simply because of the class speed, they just wont read it at the speed the card is capable of. My G1 and N1 both handled class 10 cards without issue even though the phones could not read that fast.
Ive also never heard or see how a dual core would make any noticeable difference on read and write speeds.
BTW I think if my memory is correct the difference in class speeds was read/write. if you plan to transfer lots from device to device or constantly write to the card like a digital camera you would want class 10. if you have an android that will mostly be reading a class 4 or so was recommended.
EDIT: found one of the links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031312&page=2
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If you're using this for a phone, you may not want a class 10. A class 2 or 4 Sandisk may be better for you. Depends what you're using it for.
Class 10 gives fast sequential speeds, but it usually sacrifices random read, write and access speeds. I could go into the reason why this happens, but I've posted several times about that, so you can check my previous posts for that.
Class 10 is good for digital cameras or other things where sequential speed is important and random speeds aren't important. If you're using the card to run apps off of, or system files for Android, or any OS actually, or using it for WP7, or anything that will need sequential speeds and fast access times, class 10s are slower than good quality class 2 or 4 cards like Sandisk.
Higher class DOES NOT mean better or faster for everything. Class only refers to sequential write speed. Different types of cards are better and faster for different tasks. Class 10s will many times slow down or cause lag in phones, depending on how the phone uses it. Sandisk class 2 and 4 cards I have found to be the best all around cards for phones.
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mastermind1234321 said:
Can asus transformer really take advantage of a Class 10 MicroSD card? Or should i just buy a class 4?
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Depending on the usage since by default /sdcard is mapped into its internal storage, uSD (Removable/MicroSD) is hardly used by the apps, of course, media file, backup (Nandroid or Titanium) will be faster with faster uSD.
Here is an extremely informational post about class speeds and what they really mean. I have a 32gb c10 and love it but it would behoove you to check out the Small Block Write Speeds in this post to see the real differences of read/write speeds.
What Micro SD should I get.
1. A smaller but faster Micro SD (64 GB 80MB/s)
2. Bigger but slower (128GB 48MB) Class10
Do you you notice the speed difference between 48 and 80 MB/s. Make a difference on my DSLR, but not sure if the Shield will take advantage of the speed.
I guess it depends on what you will mainly be using it for. I have an old class 10 64gb card that still works sufficiently even for running games directly from it.
I believe the shield's SD slot is pretty high quality so I would imagine it can use the faster speed cards.. but most of us are gonna be looking for more space for games considering games like HL2 take around 2gb or more.
TLDR: get the 128gb imo.
technoviking said:
What Micro SD should I get.
1. A smaller but faster Micro SD (64 GB 80MB/s)
2. Bigger but slower (128GB 48MB) Class10
Do you you notice the speed difference between 48 and 80 MB/s. Make a difference on my DSLR, but not sure if the Shield will take advantage of the speed.
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Personally I was in the same situation I to have a DSLR and I went for the speed 64GB
I'm using a class 10 32gb card and I have all my games on it using folder mount and I do not notice any lag or slow loading of games. I think the only time you would want anything faster is if you record a lot of videos. Otherwise I don't think it's necessary.
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I'm using a class 10 32gb card and I have all my games on it using folder mount and I do not notice any lag or slow loading of games. I think the only time you would want anything faster is if you record a lot of videos. Otherwise I don't think it's necessary.
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Same type of card for me as well. I think mine is about a 35mb/s speed. Plenty fast enough for offloading game assets from what I've experienced to date.
I am dont sure, I have sandisk ultra 64gb (30mb/s) and pny (64gb) 90mb/s elite performance, I dont feel tangible improvements in much extend. The only time i really did feel the difference was when ripped some 4k movies from youtube... and some pdf's over 200 pages in size.:silly:
I ordered a 128GB (New version) ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M562LF4/ )
And it will be here tonight. I don't have my shield tablet yet. I managed to snag one from the official amazon shipment that sold out in a matter of minutes. Which should be here on Friday or Monday.
I do have a Verizon HTC One Max as my daily driver. I do understand it's a different device. But I will do some tests on the HTC and the exact same tests on the Shield Tablet when it arrives.
I'm new to testing SD cards. So if people could make a list of what tests they'd like me to run I would be happy to run them.
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I ordered a 128GB (New version) ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M562LF4/ )
And it will be here tonight. I don't have my shield tablet yet. I managed to snag one from the official amazon shipment that sold out in a matter of minutes. Which should be here on Friday or Monday.
I do have a Verizon HTC One Max as my daily driver. I do understand it's a different device. But I will do some tests on the HTC and the exact same tests on the Shield Tablet when it arrives.
I'm new to testing SD cards. So if people could make a list of what tests they'd like me to run I would be happy to run them.
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Its down to $99. Couldn't resist and bought one.
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i don't have one yet, but i would put all my games on internal if i had space , i mean only games ! and than few apps and other stuff on sd card if you don't have space a better sdcard as i know only reduces loading times which can make your gallery lag if its slow ! (when you start it, it reads pictures from sd card, even if you don't have pictures there it will check there as i know)