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[Q] MicroSD Card

Been looking around for which microsd card to replace my venue pro one with. definitely want a 32gb one. Pulled up a few, are a lot of people having problems with the class 4 cards? Should I stick with a class 2, even though the 4 is about the same price, or cheaper? Here are the few I found, all around $80. Price doesn't matter, just want the one that will work the best.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...rd/q/sellerid/20451128/loc/101/219031154.html
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSDHC-SDSDQ-032G-A11M-Retail-Package/dp/B003OA8T92/ref=pd_cp_e_1
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk32-g...icrosdhc-1-card-pack/q/loc/101/217020006.html (same card as above)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G60AD6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

I'm 100% sure someone had posted the 32GB MicroSD card S/N they use. I don't remember which post it was, it is somewhere in the Venue Pro General form.

I think class 6 should work. Max Miller at ZDNet has posted a blog about how he swapped a troublesome dvp's 8gb card with 32gb n the dvp is working like a charm after that. It has a video aswell.
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Whats the largest SD card Windows mobile 7 can handle, and if it's less than 128 will it be able to recognize "partitioned" SD cards?

I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.

kharnak said:
I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.
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Why would a slower class work better than a faster class of SD? Class ten is the fastest your able to buy.
If I can buy a class 10 32gb would it work?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...61411-L06D&AID=10657534&PID=749547&SID=forums

I swapped my 8GB class 4 that came with the device to a 32 GB SanDisk class 4. I do notice slower write speeds - 720p video in particular seems to have a lag when capturing. Other than that, the phone is zippy fast.

I bought a Dell Venue Pro (normally hate Dell and don't give them the time of day) and from what i've been reading i'm going to be stuck with a class 2 or 4 (32gb) MicroSD card. And to narrow it down even further supposedly the ones that work best with these phones are sandisk.
So my questions are this. Will I actually be able to use a class 10 microsd card or is it a limitation of the physical phone. I mean windows is capable of 32gb and probably more.
If it isn't able to use class 10 right now will there be a firmware update for the phone that will allow it.
What would happen if i bought a kingston or patriot over sandisk (as i've always considered them the bottom of the pile)

I've been using a 32gb sandisk (class 2) for a couple days now and it's awesome. Despite being class 2, it's way faster than the crappy class 4 that came with the phone.
Random r/w speed is the most important thing to worry about with WP7 devices. Class rating does not say anything at all about random r/w speed, just about the maximum throughput. In fact, there is often a NEGATIVE correlation between class rating and random r/w speed - the higher the class, the lower random r/w.
So that's why class 2, 4, or 6 cards seem to be the best.

so could anyone give me a link of the best 32 gb sd card I can use for my DVP that would be awesome.
the one that came with my phone is starting to fail (constantly getting the black screen with memory card problem and asking me to change cards and reset)

another question
let's say something happens with my phone and I need to send it back for warranty repair, could I possibly switch out the sd card back to the original one, reset and be ok?

So does this phone have a SD card that is expandable? I just got the phone a week ago and thought it was built in and couldn't be changed.

What memory card do you recommend me?

I'm from the perspective of purchasing a memory card, 16 or 32 GB
I await your advice to not buy anything.
thank you

Just for the record, I'm more tempted by a 32 GB...

depends what you are going to be using it for?
music apps photos etc?
i have a 16Gb class 10 Joytech card in mine and it performs very well

Well, regardless of what you're going to use it for, extra free space is always welcome, and who knows, maybe you'll find yourself in need for more space than a 8 gb or 16, so, if the price difference ain't that big, go for 32.

The biggest and fastest you can get . Recently I bought 16GB class 10, because a/ I wanted to see if a faster card would make the shutter in video recording go away and b/ I needed a bigger card (one that would be enough to store a full season of TV shows - roughly 8GB and have space for my photos/music/apps). Because for me faster was more important than bigger I searched for class 10 cards and settled for 16GB (at a bargain price too - 30 EUR). I have to say that I'm very happy with it - it's really class 10, no shutter at all and I have enough space to copy a full season of a TV show to have with me to watch while I have nothing else to do.

whatever size you do get make sure its minimum class 6 or above otherwise as stated the speed (or lack of) may start to annoy you

SanDisk 16GB, best price-performance ratio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fipec said:
I'm from the perspective of purchasing a memory card, 16 or 32 GB
I await your advice to not buy anything.
thank you
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Go for 32 Gigs.
even tho if youre low on money go for it! then you`l never go out of space
and the DHD dont slow down either so its a win win win!

Would recomend you to get atleast a 8gb class 6, you can get them for under 9GBP on amazon. In my opinion those are the bare minimums. You need class 6 to record 720p video without stutter and 8 gb holds decent ammount of music/videos.
It all depends on how much you willing to spend in reality.
Personally i just bought Patriot 16GB class 10.

I don't think anything above class 6 is very useful seeing as the memory card reader on the DHD may not be fast enough to read/write anything faster than that, but I could be wrong. I have a 16GB Class 4 Duracell myself which works at very high speeds, way above the classification. For it's price a very good card, in my opinion. But I'd go for 32GB if I had the money for it.

maarten00 said:
I don't think anything above class 6 is very useful seeing as the memory card reader on the DHD may not be fast enough to read/write anything faster than that, but I could be wrong. I have a 16GB Class 4 Duracell myself which works at very high speeds, way above the classification. For it's price a very good card, in my opinion. But I'd go for 32GB if I had the money for it.
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The DHD can read/write at speeds way higher than 6MB/s. My class 10 card has transfers of 19/11 MB/s (in the phone, not via a SD adapter) and there are reports of beter (and more expensive) class 10 cards working at even higher speeds.

Transcend 32 gb class 2 ( 4 mbyte/s write, 10 mbyte/s read)
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I have a class 4 and I never noticed any video shutter

Thank you for all your replies.
I have almost 10GB of music and movies to put on.
I bought a SanDisk 16GB class 6.
Thanks

Recommeded Sd Card 16gig
well i use kingston 16gig class 2 and it seem to be fine nat had any problems with it have used other sdcard found kingston and scan disk to be about the best

[Q] Recommended SD card?

I have the stock 8G card in my Inspire, but want a 16G card so I can move apps (and other data) over. Is there any real difference from one 'class' of card to the other? what would you guys recommend?

BillTheCat said:
I have the stock 8G card in my Inspire, but want a 16G card so I can move apps (and other data) over. Is there any real difference from one 'class' of card to the other? what would you guys recommend?
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Get the san disk 16gb class 10. It will be really fast with transfers.
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klquicksall said:
Get the san disk 16gb class 10. It will be really fast with transfers.
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I read that some cards were more accurate with their transfer claims than others. Can't remember the brand of card but one was recommended as being closer to the spec than the others. Also remember reading something somewhere that suggested a Class 10 card wasn't desirable and not necessarily faster because of how it worked, and that a Class 6 would do better for read/write and battery life. Your thoughts?

not really sure if I would spend the extra cash on a class 10 16b over a slower card for use in a phone. class 10 are superior for video, especially hd, like with a digital camera.
now, if the price is not much more I would go for class 10 but that is because I have found that once you replace your device, you may use your old card in a new device that now needs a faster card.
from sd association:
Class 2 : H.264 video recording, MPEG-4, MPEG-2 video recording
Class 4: MEPG-2 (HDTV) video recording, DSC consecutive shooting
Class 6: Mega-pixel DSC consecutive shooting, professional video camera
Class 10: Full HD video recording, HD still consecutive shooting
I do not agree with all of those uses but class 6 should be fine for your phone, even class 4 may be. plenty of info on the web if you want to check it out more. Again, if price is not an issue or the price difference is minimal go for a faster card. also, do not buy from ebay as there are a ton of fake cards on the site.
edit:
this was a good deal. just expired, but a similar one may surface :0
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=1019384&t=2794331

aeneas3 said:
I do not agree with all of those uses but class 6 should be fine for your phone, even class 4 may be. plenty of info on the web if you want to check it out more.
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The problem with these ratings is that they're intended for use in recording devices, and don't discuss suitability for use in a device such as a PDA where you'll be running programs off of the card.
The information I've seen on the 'net is sketchy, which is why I'm asking here.
Two things to answer:
1) What class is suitable for running programs from the card?
2) What brand/model of card comes closest to advertised rating?

BillTheCat said:
The problem with these ratings is that they're intended for use in recording devices, and don't discuss suitability for use in a device such as a PDA where you'll be running programs off of the card.
The information I've seen on the 'net is sketchy, which is why I'm asking here.
Two things to answer:
1) What class is suitable for running programs from the card?
2) What brand/model of card comes closest to advertised rating?
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It really depends on a number of things, how much information is being used at one time for a certain app, since all apps are different. So you can't really say, but if you want to make sure then go with a class 10. A class 6 should be fine for most of the apps on android though.
As for which brand of card comes closest to advertised. Each Sd card is different just like every processor is different. You can get a Kingston 8gig class 4 that only transfers at 3mb/s or one that transfers at 4.2 mb/s. Generally a good standard to go by is (cheap/fast/reliable) you can only pick two.
The only way you are going to know the actual speed of the card is to bench test it. For my money though I would probably go with kingston or pny.

The stock card is a Sandisk class 4 and based on that I would say that a class 4 would be fine, but a higher class shouldn't hurt.
capman231

My stock card is a samsung class 2..... And it is forever unexpectedly unmounting.......

Just ordered a Kingston 16gig class 4 for $30 shipped on amazon.

i just bought a 2GB PNY from BestBuy for $7. Couldn't be happier!

It really depends on what you plan on doing with the card/phone. If you are just going to use it for apps and smaller data files the class 4 or 6 will be fine. For me I use the phone for work and media. I stream music via bluetooth in my car and wired to my boat while also storing larger pdfs for work, like my companies catalog. Not to mention if I ever want to take any 720p vids.
I have a 16gb class 6 that has outlived its usefulness as Android stores more data on it than my previous windows phone, so I'm deleting more & more music to make room. I just purchased a Wintec 32gb class 10. I will test the speed with the card in the phone mounted to my computer via usb and if the speeds aren't there I have no problem putting it in a card reader to transfer what I need. I can easily throw 18gb of 192bit mp3s on it, more if I keep some of the songs as flac. I feel the time saved transferring justifies the $76 price.
If you go with a larger card just remember to unmount it before disconnecting and you'll save yourself a lot of headaches.

I want a 16 gb card, but which model is the fastest ? i know a class 4 can outperform a class 6 card and so on , a class 4 pny card? a class 4 kingston? or a class 6 trascend?

You have it backwards a class six is supposed to out perform a class four and a class ten is supposed to out perform a class six.
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mudknot2005 said:
You have it backwards a class six is supposed to out perform a class four and a class ten is supposed to out perform a class six.
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apparently the brands lie when they say what type of cards they're selling, think of it like a 5 mp camera outperforming an 8 mp camera i CAN happen

Chad_Petree said:
apparently the brands lie when they say what type of cards they're selling, think of it like a 5 mp camera outperforming an 8 mp camera i CAN happen
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I'm not saying it can't, I have a 8 mega pixel sony cybershot that has a carl ziess lens and its pictures are way clearer then my 14 mega pixel cannon point and shoot, but like I said before you have to bench test it before you know its true potential. One kingston 16gig class 10 is not going to preform the same as another kingston 16gig class 10. It is possible to have a class 6 out perform a class 10, but in general the higher the class the faster the transfer rates.

mudknot2005 said:
I'm not saying it can't, I have a 8 mega pixel sony cybershot that has a carl ziess lens and its pictures are way clearer then my 14 mega pixel cannon point and shoot, but like I said before you have to bench test it before you know its true potential. One kingston 16gig class 10 is not going to preform the same as another kingston 16gig class 10. It is possible to have a class 6 out perform a class 10, but in general the higher the class the faster the transfer rates.
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should i get the trascend class 6 then? the thing is i dont anything about that brand, are they any good?

Chad_Petree said:
should i get the trascend class 6 then? the thing is i dont anything about that brand, are they any good?
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Personally I am not sure I tend to stick with pny and kingston. What I would recommend is looking on amazon or another place that has reviews usually a good reviewer will post a bench test with transfer rates.

I have been using this Adata 16gb cl6 for over a year and a half. The only problems I've had with it are occasional corrupting, but that is completely attributable to my lack of unmounting the card before disconnect. I haven't had a single issue since I started unmounting.
I would also recommend their cl10 card which can be found here.
I wish Adata made a 32gb version. I will report my results on the Wintec once I receive it.

I used a class 4 16gb SanDisk for a long time and it always was fine. I am a sucker for room though, and bought a Lexar 32GB Class 10 and I really couldnt be happier.

I just researched this the other day and can't find the link for the life of me..
Basically from what I read the class 2 and class 4 cards have a faster read than the class 6 and 10's. It has to do with some initializing the 6 and 10's do which is an extra step compared to the 2 and 4's.
For a digital camera the class 6's and 10's are better but for phones a class 4 is ideal. If I can find that darn link i'll post it.
I have an 8gb class 6 transend in my N1 atm and when I get my Inspire in tomorrow i'm going to test the class 4 against the class 6 to see which one has a higher read speed.

[Q] what class of micro SD card does this phone use

will i be able to use a class 4 micro sd card?
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1304280254&sr=1-2
or would anyone recommend something different?

Any class will work. The higher the better. It will be faster. I have a 16gb kingston class 4 card and it works great.
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jsauce75 said:
Any class will work. The higher the better. It will be faster. I have a 16gb kingston class 4 card and it works great.
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"The higher the better"-that's a false statement, but if you want to get the best oud of the MicroSD, go for class 4 or class 6. Am currently using a class 4 8gb.

jdaclutch said:
"The higher the better"-that's a false statement, but if you want to get the best oud of the MicroSD, go for class 4 or class 6. Am currently using a class 4 8gb.
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What makes his statement false?

BAleR said:
What makes his statement false?
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the fact it may not support as high a speed class as you can find.
for example my N1 would support a more expensive class 10 card but not at those speeds as the N1 was limited to i believe 4? so a class 4 is all you would need
Im not sure what our G2X supports but a class 6-8 should be fine

Spoo76 said:
the fact it may not support as high a speed class as you can find.
for example my N1 would support a more expensive class 10 card but not at those speeds as the N1 was limited to i believe 4? so a class 4 is all you would need
Im not sure what our G2X supports but a class 6-8 should be fine
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There are also quite a few tests out there that show many class 10s transferring slower than some 6s. I shopped around for a while on newegg, not many good things coming out of the 10s on that site. 16gb Adata 6 is what i settled for. If I end up needing something larger in the future, and I have the money, I probably would go with the 32gb Lexar class 10.

what's the cheapest anyone bought a 16gb from a reputable site/seller online? i'm eying the patriot 16gb on amazon for $25. 3rd party seller can be fake.

I have a 16gb Class 10. The statement higher the better is true. A class 10 vs a class 6 thats a difference in speed of 4mb.

schmit said:
There are also quite a few tests out there that show many class 10s transferring slower than some 6s. I shopped around for a while on newegg, not many good things coming out of the 10s on that site. 16gb Adata 6 is what i settled for. If I end up needing something larger in the future, and I have the money, I probably would go with the 32gb Lexar class 10.
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I was about to explain,but you already beat me to it

Berat said:
I have a 16gb Class 10. The statement higher the better is true. A class 10 vs a class 6 thats a difference in speed of 4mb.
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Theoretically, that is the case. 10s are suppose to be faster. But that's the manufacturer's marketing that says such. In real world testing, they are not getting much faster speeds (or are actually slower) than some 4s and 6s.
Buyer beware.. do the research yourself and you'll find what I found. I wanted to get the best card for this phone.. and after much reading, I stayed away from the 10s.. Do some browsing on newegg and read the reviews on all their 10s.. it's not pretty.

I'm not sure about other SD cards but i have a class 6 on my N1 that while it worked it wasn't great when running some apps from it or when view lots of pix in the gallery.
with the G2X that isn't as much an issue, but can anyone recommend a fast 16gb card? hopefully fast enough to run apps from if i need it later on

I found a couple class 10s that had great reviews from other cellphone users and I chose one of those. (It's in the mail now.) Are you guys saying that our phone is limited to sub-10 speeds or that the cards themselves are not as good at higher classes? I thought the class rating was determined by the card's speed... if so, wouldn't a card that is slower than a class 6 be rated below 6 by definition?
The lower classes are considerably cheaper so if I bought something off, I need to know now!

lobsterhead said:
I found a couple class 10s that had great reviews from other cellphone users and I chose one of those. (It's in the mail now.) Are you guys saying that our phone is limited to sub-10 speeds or that the cards themselves are not as good at higher classes? I thought the class rating was determined by the card's speed... if so, wouldn't a card that is slower than a class 6 be rated below 6 by definition?
The lower classes are considerably cheaper so if I bought something off, I need to know now!
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I dont know for certain but I doubt the G2X supports class 10 speeds.
as far as cards being slower than the advertised rating, its just typical marketing. just like HP ratings, GHz clock speeds, Megapixels, Amps,watts, ect ect

The class speeds stamped on these cards are notoriously unreliable. The 16GB Class 2 card that came with my HD2 consistently beats my brand new Class 6 card on every benchmark I run. I recommend buying from a retailer with a decent return policy and benchmarking your new card to make sure your getting the speed you've paid for.
The other issue is at what speed the G2X's SD interface maxes out...and I've seen no data on that...

Do any of you guys have benchmark data on your SD cards in your G2x for whatever class card you have?

Guys heres how it works:
HAve you ever tried to put 8gb's of memory into a computer that only supports four?
Or a faster memory into a computer that only supports the later?
same thing if your phone doesnt support the class/speed/size its going to run like SHEEEot/slow/not at all!!
I have the class 4 16gb card and it works great. why spend money on something you dont need?

Berat said:
I have a 16gb Class 10. The statement higher the better is true. A class 10 vs a class 6 thats a difference in speed of 4mb.
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Are you using the class 10 card in your G2x? Are you getting legit class 10 speeds?
It looks like everybody in this thread is happy with class 4... anybody getting appropriate performance on higher class cards in their G2x?

lobsterhead said:
Do any of you guys have benchmark data on your SD cards in your G2x for whatever class card you have?
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lobsterhead said:
Are you using the class 10 card in your G2x? Are you getting legit class 10 speeds?
It looks like everybody in this thread is happy with class 4... anybody getting appropriate performance on higher class cards in their G2x?
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I did on the Adata 16gb class 6.. It was reading at around 18 and writing at over 10. That was putting it up there w/ class 10 specs..
Manufacturers suggest using the SDFormatter V3 to format the card instead of using other utilities in the phone or windows.

lobsterhead said:
I found a couple class 10s that had great reviews from other cellphone users and I chose one of those. (It's in the mail now.) Are you guys saying that our phone is limited to sub-10 speeds or that the cards themselves are not as good at higher classes? I thought the class rating was determined by the card's speed... if so, wouldn't a card that is slower than a class 6 be rated below 6 by definition?
The lower classes are considerably cheaper so if I bought something off, I need to know now!
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I don't think anyone knows for certain what the phone is capable of. If you find that out, great.. please let us know.
What I'm trying to relay is that the speeds mentioned on class 10s are not what they are all cracked up to be. Sure, higher is better.. but it's only better if it actually achieves a higher speed. Also, it must be a higher speed that can justify the price difference. Beating a class4 by a cpl mb/s but double the costs was not worth it. I spent a few days doing research on this.. studying many different test results, etc. I could go back through and find all the data for ya.. but I don't have time. My final result was that the class 10s were not worth it.. they had a higher fail rate than the 4s and 6s.. they were less recommended/had lower reviews than the 4s and 6s.. in some cases, they performed slower or at par w/ a 4 or 6, and they were dbl the price. There was absolutely nothing that said it was a good route to go. Nothing outside of the marketing.. "Class 10!!!"
In some cases, depending upon manufacturer, you can find a class 4/6 that will outperform some class 10s. I also see a much lower customer satisfaction, malfunctioning cards, returns, etc. when it comes to the class 10s.. much more than any other class.

kingston 32gb class10 microsdhc

do you know where can i buy one of these?? i'm looking everywhere

pantosssp said:
do you know where can i buy one of these?? i'm looking everywhere
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This is a good brand, bit pricey though
http://www.memoryc.ie/products/desc...C_CL10_memory_card_with_SD_adapter/index.html
According to Kingston's site their 32GB is only Class 4 so if you do find a Class 10 it's most likely a fake, see link below
http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/flash/sdhc_micro.asp?id=8

Thanks! dmd9
i thought that kingston had a class10 32gb :S
now for 32gb class10 .. lexar or patriot?
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/176-7790961-4940756

pantosssp said:
Thanks! dmd9
i thought that kingston had a class10 32gb :S
now for 32gb class10 .. lexar or patriot?
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/176-7790961-4940756
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No problem
I had a look at the Lexar, I've never used any Lexar products before, so I simply compared the reviews on both. According to the reviewers the Patriot is faster, and I've used Patriot's before and found them to have good speeds.
I guess you're gonna have to work out which is the cheapest and if it's fast enough for your needs. Personally I'd go for the Patriot, but I suggest you google both for reviews as it's you that's going to be using it.
If it doesn't have to be 32GB then this is worth a look..
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...ct.html?source=9593&_$ja=tsid:11853|prd:60749

32gb? Uao! Is very big for a smartphone... what do you install inside?

donigor1978 said:
32gb? Uao! Is very big for a smartphone... what do you install inside?
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Fill it with HD movies and use FLAC instead of mp3 for superior sound
Pity we can't use MicroSDXC, that goes up tp 2TB, though you can't even get your hands on a 64GB at the moment.

DMD9 said:
Fill it with HD movies and use FLAC instead of mp3 for superior sound
Pity we can't use MicroSDXC, that goes up tp 2TB, though you can't even get your hands on a 64GB at the moment.
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FLAC on a phone? Overkill much?
That said, I have started re-ripping all my CDs (yes I actually pay for my music) to FLAC formats. With memory prices going down, the time is ripe to convert to loseless goodness.

snapper.fishes said:
FLAC on a phone? Overkill much?
That said, I have started re-ripping all my CDs (yes I actually pay for my music) to FLAC formats. With memory prices going down, the time is ripe to convert to loseless goodness.
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Overkill much? 6 months ago I would have said pretty much the same, but once I got the SGS and voodoo sound FLAC made complete sense. You will notice the difference between mp3 and FLAC with a decent set of headphones. One example, "Broken" by Nine Inch Nails, I never bothered listening to this on previous phones or mp3 players, it sounded terrible because it's a loud, distorted, in your face album, but having re-ripped it to FLAC for my SGS I'm actually able to enjoy it again while I'm out and about, I also listen to a lot of electronic stuff, most of Ultimae.com's catalog for example, and the difference is quite noticeable, to me at least.
Number 1 use for my phone is as a music player these days thanks to supercurio and FLAC.
And yeah, I pay for my music too, I'm dreading having to re-rip over 600 CD's and pay for another HDD to hold 'em all on.

Just so you know
On the samsung i9000, there is no difference in performance between 32gb Class2 & Class10
Save your money & buy class2

donigor1978 said:
32gb? Uao! Is very big for a smartphone... what do you install inside?
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You will dont belive what you can all put on micro SD.My SGS replaced my laptop in 80% of cases. I have one in my signature (16 GB), and i have yet 120 MB free...Time is for 32 GB one
Regards

fatjoez said:
Just so you know
On the samsung i9000, there is no difference in performance between 32gb Class2 & Class10
Save your money & buy class2
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That's not entirely true, there is a difference, but whether or not you'll notice it just depends on what you're using the card for. If you're camera is set up to record HD video to your external SD then it must have a write speed of 6MB or you will end up with choppy, stuttering crap quality video. If you're just using the external SD for mp3's or playing movies you've transferred from your pc, class 2 is fine, but it will take you longer to transfer stuff from your pc to your phone

DMD9 said:
This is a good brand, bit pricey though
http://www.memoryc.ie/products/desc...C_CL10_memory_card_with_SD_adapter/index.html
According to Kingston's site their 32GB is only Class 4 so if you do find a Class 10 it's most likely a fake, see link below
http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/flash/sdhc_micro.asp?id=8
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the kingston 32gb class 10 are not fakes, they were release just after the sandisk 32gb class 2, when they were first released, but were taken off the market and discontinued, due to high price, i saw them and was gonna get one when the price drop (the shop i saw them are a authorised dealer, so you dont need to think the shop is selling fakes).
it was about USD 170, when you compare them to the class 4 version at USD 55, why are they expensive, well they are the fasted microsd to present, with write at 16mb/s and read at 22mb/s.
I also have 2 lexar 32gb at class 10, and the speed is nowhere near the kingston.
lexar write speed at 11mb/s
read speed at 17mb/s
if you still want to try out the speed, you can still get the 4gb, 8gb and 16gb at class 10, just to give you the approximate price, the 16gb will set you about USD 81, more expensive than a 32gb micro sd.

kms108 said:
the kingston 32gb class 10 are not fakes, they were release just after the sandisk 32gb class 2, when they were first released, but were taken off the market and discontinued, due to high price, i saw them and was gonna get one when the price drop (the shop i saw them are a authorised dealer, so you dont need to think the shop is selling fakes).
it was about USD 170, when you compare them to the class 4 version at USD 55, why are they expensive, well they are the fasted microsd to present, with write at 16mb/s and read at 22mb/s.
I also have 2 lexar 32gb at class 10, and the speed is nowhere near the kingston.
lexar write speed at 11mb/s
read speed at 17mb/s
if you still want to try out the speed, you can still get the 4gb, 8gb and 16gb at class 10, just to give you the approximate price, the 16gb will set you about USD 81, more expensive than a 32gb micro sd.
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I stand corrected

I tried a Playstation emulator app, and I am pretty sure that I could get more games working after I got my class 10 16gb card.
Since I use my phone for emulators, browsing, music, media player, remote desktop and probably as a travel computer soon... then having a faster SD card really comes in handy. If nothing else, then it comes in handy when deleting 8+ gb from it, just to put another 8gb+ onto it. Having a few extra mb/s really matters when doing that now and then.
Is the built in SD actually class 10? I really hope so, but if not I should probably consider moving a few more apps to the SD.

the built in memory is a nand memory chip soldered on the main board, it's reads and writes faster than microsd.

I've been wanting to upgrade my external card (8gb I think) to a 16 or 32. I've only just recently become aware of the different 'classes' and speeds of cards... just how much difference is there (in usability terms, gallery, music etc) between say a class 4 and 6 (or 8 or 10) or whatever the different classes are.
Raw numbers won't really help me (as I have no point of reference lol) but are they REALLY much faster in normal use? Are they worth it?

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I've been wanting to upgrade my external card (8gb I think) to a 16 or 32. I've only just recently become aware of the different 'classes' and speeds of cards... just how much difference is there (in usability terms, gallery, music etc) between say a class 4 and 6 (or 8 or 10) or whatever the different classes are.
Raw numbers won't really help me (as I have no point of reference lol) but are they REALLY much faster in normal use? Are they worth it?
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To be honest unless you have your camera set up to record to the external SD I don't think you need to worry too much about the class of your card, 720p recording needs a write speed of 6Mbps, but as the prices have come down a lot it makes sense the get the biggest card you can justify price wise. One advantage of a higher class card is that it's quicker to transfer files from your PC to your phone.
If you want a 16GB class 10 here's a decently priced one
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...viglink&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:viglink
If you want a fast 32GB class 4 this is one of the best prices I've found so far
http://www.mobymemory.com/products/MobyMemory/SanDisk-32GB-Micro-SD-Class-4.asp
(I have a SanDisk 8GB class 4 and it writes at just over 7Mbps, Sandisk are know for under rating their cards)
If you just want a 32GB, here's a class 2, (SanDisk so probably faster than rated)
http://www.mobymemory.com/products/MobyMemory/Sandisk-32gb-Micro-SDHC.asp

I bought a class 10 sd to replace my previous class 6.
I didn't notice a change! Speed was the same as on class 6.
Buy a class 6 sdcard instead of class 10. They are cheaper too

I think many people still dont understand the meaning of the classes that is stated on the memory card.
the class is just an indication of the minimun read speed and write speed that the card can offer.
so a class 2, 4 or 6 can reach the speed of a class 10 or even a class 16,
class 2 minimum 2mb/s
class 4 minimum 4mb/s
class 6 minimum 6mb/s
class 10 minimum 10mb/s
class 16 minimum 16mb/s
as for people who think there really is'nt any differences when compared class 2, 4 with a class 10, this will depend on what you use it for.
if your phone supports HD photo and recordings, then you will need a fast card, you will notice the speed differences, especially during recording videos, but for mp3's and phone normal use, then it does'nt show any differences.

kms108 said:
I think many people still dont understand the meaning of the classes that is stated on the memory card.
the class is just an indication of the minimun read speed and write speed that the card can offer.
so a class 2, 4 or 6 can reach the speed of a class 10 or even a class 16,
class 2 minimum 2mb/s
class 4 minimum 4mb/s
class 6 minimum 6mb/s
class 10 minimum 10mb/s
class 16 minimum 16mb/s
as for people who think there really is'nt any differences when compared class 2, 4 with a class 10, this will depend on what you use it for.
if your phone supports HD photo and recordings, then you will need a fast card, you will notice the speed differences, especially during recording videos, but for mp3's and phone normal use, then it does'nt show any differences.
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Well put