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I have a Vibrant, and I just convinced my buddy to get a Galaxy S 4G and he loves it. I keep seeing threads floating around the vibrant forums about Micro-USB to HDMI.
Now from what I understand the Galaxy S 2 is able to do this, but from what I've read, there is not much of a difference between the hardware of the SGS2 and the Vibrant and SGS4G. From what I've read, theres something thats blocking it from working on SGS4G and the Vibrant thats enabled in the SGS2.
heres a few threads on the idea..
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973789
another idea. -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11366461&highlight=kernel#post11366461
if anyone could get this enabled in the coding, it would be probably one of the sickest developments in the hacking of the SGS phones. not to mention theres a few bounties on here. people are willing to donate for such an amazing thing. including me!
This would be quite a development for us Galaxy S 4G owners. Especially if all we need to do is flip a switch or two in the kernel .config file.
But it is stated here that it is just for the Galaxy S2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11366734&postcount=197
playerx said:
This would be quite a development for us Galaxy S 4G owners. Especially if all we need to do is flip a switch or two in the kernel .config file.
But it is stated here that it is just for the Galaxy S2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11366734&postcount=197
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ahh see its been said that "only galaxy s2 can" buttt its also been said that the SGS was supposed to be able to do it and samsung decided to disable it so that the SGS2 could be the "first"
these all could be speculations. But like I said in 1st post, it's been said that all the hardware is pretty much the same (minues of course a few things). But apparently everything hardware wise related to this is the same and its disabled in the kernel. How amazing would it be! gahh
Why do we have a setting in our phones under display called TV Out? U can turn it on or off and u can select PAL or NTSC under tv system. I cant find anything about this in any of the full online manuals? Im confused>>> has anyone figured this out yet?
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Why do we have a setting in our phones under display called TV Out? U can turn it on or off and u can select PAL or NTSC under tv system. I cant find anything about this in any of the full online manuals? Im confused>>> has anyone figured this out yet?
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well i got curious one day and tested it and have been able to watch movies on my tv from my sgs4g using my old ipod video cord, you know the one that has vga plugs on one end and a headphone jack on the other the turning on the tv out feature but quality is dvd at most definatly not HD but as for the micro usb to hdmi cable i am not quite sure.
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Why do we have a setting in our phones under display called TV Out? U can turn it on or off and u can select PAL or NTSC under tv system. I cant find anything about this in any of the full online manuals? Im confused>>> has anyone figured this out yet?
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What that does is it gives you video and audio thru the 3.5 mm headphone jack.
its a cord like this LINK
I picked one up and its cool but the resolution and clarity is terrible coming thru that little jack. Although its neat to have
caffeinated chris said:
What that does is it gives you video and audio thru the 3.5 mm headphone jack.
its a cord like this LINK
)I picked one up and its cool but the resolution and clarity is terrible coming thru that little jack. Although its neat to have
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What was the resolution of the screen you displayed the phone on?(480,720,1080)
Just wondering.
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What was the resolution of the screen you displayed the phone on?(480,720,1080)
Just wondering.
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my tv in my room is a 1080p 32' insignia and the one in the living room is a old 55' projector big screen still though it doesn't look bad and is good to watch movies with but like I said i is definitely not HD.
I just use a radio shack 3.5-vga camcorder a/v cable and swap the red and yellow plugs. It works great. No its not HD but its perfectly watchable quality. Of course if the source video is sketchy its going to look even worse on the big screen. But try it with a decent video source and it looks pretty good. I use it all the time to watch stuff from my phone. Give it a shot.
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What was the resolution of the screen you displayed the phone on?(480,720,1080)
Just wondering.
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yea I think I'm on a 37" Panasonic 720p/1080i and it definitely was not HD. pretty much a little worse than standard cable quality. grrr i wish it was better
I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first. The Xoom is also the ONLY tablet that supports 802.11 a/b/g/n that means you can operate on 2.4ghz wifi or 5ghz wifi. The Xoom is built stronger in my opinion.
The samsung is very pretty but after reading about how users are able to just flex them in their hands with little to no effort and reading reports of the glass popping out of the tablet... yeah no thanks. To say that comparing the Acer and the Xoom is comparing the worst two units on the market is short sighted and ignorant at worst.
I'd definately want the Xoom over any other tablet released to date.
So how's the playback & GPS on the Xoom? I'm been having difficulty with a lot of my 1080p videos on the A500, and the gps can't get a lock to save it's own life. I've updated the A500 to 3.1 and while the 1080p video playback has improved (it's not as choppy), the GPS is a worse as ever!
The GPS works like a charm. I've used it as a giant Garmin a few times. As for the video. I haven't tried anything in HD, but flash video can be a little jumpy. Most videos below 1080p are butter, but like I said, you can get the occasional jumpiness in flash videos.
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Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum. You dumbasses who are just here to talk **** are getting annoying. I'm assuming you own all four tablets and have thouroughly tested their pros and cons right?
The xoom is a very solid, well spec'd well supported piece of hardware.
Oh by the way how are you liking 3.2 on your gtab? Its beautiful on my xoom. Wait Samsung hasn't pushed that update yet? Sorry
Timely updates are important too. Xoom wins again
Kiss mine dude.
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Yea. GPS status n tools works well enough to accurately read car speed on my xoom, accurately lol.
The xoom is also pure google, which means its like the nexus line of phones.... you get the latest updates faster, the now 2 year old nexus is still more up to date then most phones you can buy today. So, ice cream sandwich and beyond is all but promised for the xoom. People have different opinions, but I'm enjoying 3.2 right now, before any other tablet. Like the galaxy tab 10.1 for example.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum.
Kiss mine dude.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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i believe he reacted like that because there are a lot of guys coming into this forum to talk crap..... when all is said and done, all these tabs have pretty much the same specs. The 10.1 has no ports or SD but a nicer screen. The iconia is bigger and heavier, but cheaper and has a full sized USB. And the transformer has a nice screen but no USB without the dock. Its all about what's important to the person buying the device. I returned my iconia for the xoom and haven't looked back, and yes I tried the transformer for a few days too. It was nice but having to attach the dock to hook up USB devices was a pain in my opinion. I bought a tab so I didn't need a keyboard and mouse.
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
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Honestly if I lived outside the US and had wifi only I'd just flash the US images and be done with it.
I was actually suggesting the transformer over the gt any day..I was not trying to say don't get it but I just found it odd the compare was zoom vs Acer when two knew tabs are on the market. I own the ts and am seriously considering the zoom..the snapdragon is the killer for me for.
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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GPS is one of the biggest reasons I chose the Xoom. The wifi version has a TRUE GPS chip onboard.
It's not assisted (rofl) gps, nor cellular triangulation, but a real gps chip and you don't have to buy the 3G version (cough icrap cough) to get it either.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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Its not that. Its like this, I'm a loyal HTC customer, and not a big fan of samsungs phones. But do I go post in the captivate forum talking crap about a product I don't own, when someone needs help with a valid question? No. That's rude and counterproductive
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I chose the xoom because I like the nice solid feel, I hate UI overlays and know how google beautifully supports devices they use to launch a new version of android. Also, I purchased mine before there was any competition, Ive played with a few other tabs, the galaxy felt flimsy, the transformer was about equal to my xoom IMO, and the Acer felt.... awkward I guess
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boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Asus Transformer? Are you kidding?
I am on my second TF. There are some major manufacturing issues with this device. The screen bleeds light from around the edges, the battery drain on their dock, speaker issues, Flash 10.3 at 6 frames/sec, etc. IMHO, the TF is not a good device at all. The 32GB TF was $499, the dock was $149. I had to return the device once and the new one, well, it is OK but no better. I think the Asus TF is sexy but overpriced. I got my Xoom for $499 and it just has a better feel and operates better. Once I get my 3.2 OTA update to have a MicroSD, the Xoom will probably be my favorite.
I did and I'm happy I did it.
I just got 3.2 last night. There's not really much use for the SD card. Or, I haven't figured it out, and ive spent alot of time trying, and the only way I can even see files on it was a file manager, but its already partitioned for my evo. So I think I may need to find a new one and try it.
3.2 is even faster and less battery draining, less force closes across all aps, and the portrait home/app screen is now lag free for me. The keyboard feels improved and auto correct and predict seem more intelligent. Zooming apps is nice. Browser is snappier along with most all data using apps. Maybe some updating on that end?
I'm very happy with my xoom after 3.2
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Hello guys,
I am just wondering, how do you guys like this device. I am interested in buying the device (at full price as my T-Mobile contract is not ready for renewal) and was wondering if there are any common complaints / issues to look out for. Thanks so much for helping.
PS: If you have time:
1) How is battery life? (IE, can it last one day heavy usage)?
2) Will this work with full HSDPA on T-Mo USA?
3) Is there a way to toggle the torch to use as a flashlight?
4) Where exaclty would be the best place to buy this phone without contract in USA? OR Will this work with a standard T-Mo SIM card?
5) Would anyone recommend me wait for any other device that is soon to come out or is already out instead of this device?
If anyone could answer just one of the above, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
Closed Source Project said:
Hello guys,
I am just wondering, how do you guys like this device. I am interested in buying the device (at full price as my T-Mobile contract is not ready for renewal) and was wondering if there are any common complaints / issues to look out for. Thanks so much for helping.
PS: If you have time:
1) How is battery life? (IE, can it last one day heavy usage)?
2) Will this work with full HSDPA on T-Mo USA?
3) Is there a way to toggle the torch to use as a flashlight?
4) Where exaclty would be the best place to buy this phone without contract in USA? OR Will this work with a standard T-Mo SIM card?
5) Would anyone recommend me wait for any other device that is soon to come out or is already out instead of this device?
If anyone could answer just one of the above, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
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1. No. Most I get out of heavy use is about 6 or 7 hours.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. I would look on craigslist or Amazon.
5. I would HIGHLY recommend this device. Unless you're ok with waiting for the SGiii, this is the best you can get for T-Mobile right now.
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I use this phone all day streaming, email, xda, general surfing, games and still end up with around 30% battery, pretty good in my book. Physical design, sense and the overall experience is excellent. There are some lemons out there but overall quality is high.
The SGiii offers a few more features in the department of removable storage but overall for the US release these phones are almost on par. (Same dual core CPU)
The most impressive feature is the One S camera. There isn't a phone out there in the world that can touch it, say the One X. I travel so a nice camera is a must.
I would have paid full for price for this phone but I had a ToS change to my contract that helped me convince T-Mobile that they owed me, on top of the issues I had with my G2x.
My wife jumped the apple bandwagon to get one of these phones and she loves it.
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Thanks so much, guys. The only issue I heard a reviewer say was that the screen can, at times, almost look pixelated or distorted. Anyone even notice this or is this issue just an extreme nit-pick? Also, is there any noticeable lines that run across the screen in low lighting setting like the GSii?
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One small thing, if anyone bought their phone from website and would like to share the site, please post a link below or PM me. I want to make sure I get the real model and not a banned or stolen model number. Thanks!
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How does this device work without an SD-Card? Do games that require downloading separate files to run (IE The Sims && Xplane) still work?
i just bought the phone from tmobile customer service and i should get it tomorrow. cant wait to play with it. ive pretty much owned every higher end android phone for tmobile and i just sold my sensation 4g for this phone. i really want to play with the s4 lol.
Just thought I would say, I just got mine and it won't charge passed 99%. Just saying.
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Ditto, but I think this is fixed in the 1.7 update
Closed Source Project said:
Thanks so much, guys. The only issue I heard a reviewer say was that the screen can, at times, almost look pixelated or distorted. Anyone even notice this or is this issue just an extreme nit-pick? Also, is there any noticeable lines that run across the screen in low lighting setting like the GSii?
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One small thing, if anyone bought their phone from website and would like to share the site, please post a link below or PM me. I want to make sure I get the real model and not a banned or stolen model number. Thanks!
AND:
How does this device work without an SD-Card? Do games that require downloading separate files to run (IE The Sims && Xplane) still work?
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Pros:
Camera
Excellent battery life
Speed
Design
About negative sides some people mention:
Screen issues - nit-pick
SDCARD - no problems, phone DOES have a card but it is not removable. Admittably, would have been better to have 32gig version, but this one is enough for almost everything except maybe your video collection.
All in all never regretted it, best phone atm.
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my screen has never looked distorted--gorgeous-
go to a store and play with it several times--i got mine at a tmo store
it takes a micro sim, regular ones won't work w/o cutting--not up on that. but you are going to get one anyway
My screen is amazing too, i had a gripe with amoled screens, like on my dads galaxy s, that it just looks weird compared to led screens, but the One S screen looks almost undistinguishable to leds, and luckily im not a pentile hater, so I cant really see the pentile pixelation
remember
HTC ONE S:
Very aggressive CPU here- Krait "Cortex A15" (220 linpack) but so ****ed GPU (Adreno 225)
(why ?
Go to youtube desktop and play 1080P HD video.....oh sorry you CAN'T play)
Galaxy Nexus
I don't feel any power., I feel optimization.
(Omap is sucks, GPU is PowerVR SGX540- this is too old crap, even if overclocked.
youtube test with 1080p HD video is FAILED also)
so only one phone is rocking, or Im sorry only one chipset is good-
it is "EXYNOS"
Regards.
I have gotten 12Hr and 30 Mins of usage (Heavy listening to music updating facebook ect. Pics, vids,) With 40% remaining. And yes to everything else you asked.
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my screen has never looked distorted--gorgeous-
go to a store and play with it several times--i got mine at a tmo store
it takes a micro sim, regular ones won't work w/o cutting--not up on that. but you are going to get one anyway
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Hey thanks man! I remember you from the N1 forums! You like this much better than our Nexus One? Glad to hear from you again haha.
Thanks everyone for the help, I am most definitely set on buying this phone within the next weeks.
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Just thought I would say, I just got mine and it won't charge passed 99%. Just saying.
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That happened to me. fixed it by wiping stats and charging off
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One s is the way to go on T-Mobile bro. unless you wanna wait for the galaxy s 3.
For me, I will never get a T-Mobile branded galaxy device because it will not be identical to all other galaxy s3.
So what does that mean? it means the T-Mobile s3 development will not be as good. On the other hand, every one s is the same and development will flourish like the sensation.
And to me Samsung is really getting wack, the s3 whole nature idea and Svoice, s this and s that. sound similar to ithis and ithat
And finnaly. you can't compare sense ui to touch wiz. sense is King of android ui overlays.
Closed Source Project said:
Hey thanks man! I remember you from the N1 forums! You like this much better than our Nexus One? Glad to hear from you again haha.
Thanks everyone for the help, I am most definitely set on buying this phone within the next weeks.
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Remembered you too--
Yes, it is much better and development is growing now with LeeDroid on board. I thought I wanted a larger screen. But, now I know that would have been a mistake for me anyways. The 10gb free memory after OS and apps may be an issue for some. Not me. Otherwise, excellent phone. NO touchscreen issues, and you will know what I mean--
Ken
So there is ONLY 10 GB free (for **** like music/vids/pics) after the OS and cache partitions?!? That is REALLY cutting it for me, I thought there would be 16GB free. Uhh ohh...
And one more thing, my bad:
Will there be a difference of the global version of this device or the T-Mo specific version and what is that difference? Thanks!
Yea, the memory is only negative, but works for most people. I have a 1.3gb video, pics and a nandroid etc with 4gb left
don't know about any global version atm
Never mind, I was just getting confused between T-Mobile branded version and the stock version. They seem to be exactly the same.
This thing flies and I mean FLIES on cm9 alpha 6. Whoooo mate
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I am extremely disappointed that scrolling on the Note 3 isn't "buttery smooth" as claimed by many reviewers. I have found scrolling to be janky and jittery most of the time. It completely destroys the touch metaphor. I have posted some examples on YouTube. Unfortunately my camera isn't very good and doesn't shoot at a high enough frame-rate to show just how bad the problem really is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSG9SGP-hyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3hEDJWe5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucDko2cQQhw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lri0VVQe078
This problem exists with all android device not just note 3.
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Unfortunately i notice too, it's the thing i look first when using a new phone.
I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.
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I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.
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I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
You're comparing it with devices from other platforms. In that case, wouldn't it be more accurate to refer to android and Google in your comments instead of note3 and samsung ?
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Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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I agree. ios is all about a pretty experience (not they they have succeeded with ios 7). Pretty is not necessarily a bad thing but that is the prime focus for Sir Ive et al. That said, it is still a little surprising that a processor of the power of SD800 isn't always smooth!
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I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.
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Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.
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The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites. Of course the overlay that samsung and other OEMs put on top of android doesn't help in that regard either.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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Ignore. Double post.
scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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Gotta disagree here, the App Store on my iPhone 5 is horrid the first time it loads? Sometimes taking
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Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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You can read this article, has some interesting insight as to why Android is not as smooth as say iOS is. I don't own this device yet, but I've been using the HTC One which is the smoothest android experience I've had to date. It's still not as smooth as my wife's iPhone but it's approaching it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-can-never-be-as-smooth-as-iOS-myth-busted_id26252
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The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites.
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I'm not confused at all, and i agree with you about the advantages of Android. I'm perfectly aware of that, that's why i bought one, and i have had many others, instead of an iOS device.
I will say it again, i have bought a Note 3 that costs about the same as an iPhone in my country. And that's because i think the Note is way better for my needs!
But this isn't a fight to see what OS is better, or what phone, i don't want to go there at all. I don't care about that. I'm just talking about a specific issue that bothers me with my phone, and that i have experience in my 4+ years experience with Android.
Every one wants more and better, i'm no different. Apparently some ppl don't care about this issue, others don't even see it, but i do and i would like it to be a little better. Don't see what the problem is here.
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.
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Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
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Of course, I feel the same way exactly. I want the best of both worlds. This is the nature of all human beings. Without it, civilization itself wouldn't have existed
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I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .
scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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hagba said:
I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .
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I'm not the most informed, but I believe that Java has drastically improved in speed (JIT and I think you can use JNI). Also, 2 seems to be from Munn's piece (which is inaccurate).
Just want to say... This thing is even more awesome than I even thought it would be!
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riso123 said:
Just want to say... This thing is even more awesome than I even thought it would be!
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Agreed its out of this world, have you tried catatonic in the vrse app? it will scare the living s**t out of you
Hmm, this is the first VR I have the chance to try, but I could be more satisfied with the sharpness, do you guys have the same?
oli_28 said:
Hmm, this is the first VR I have the chance to try, but I could be more satisfied with the sharpness, do you guys have the same?
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You can make out the pixels in certain content, I noticed that streaming sometimes improves as the video progresses. You can certainly notice the difference between good quality content and not so good quality content.
I will tell you that its pretty damn good compared to most other VR that I've tried though.
Silly question but did you play with the focusing wheel at the top? also make sure its a tight fit and try moving the headset around on your head as it might not be sitting perfectly in front of your eyes.
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You can make out the pixels in certain content, I noticed that streaming sometimes improves as the video progresses. You can certainly notice the difference between good quality content and not so good quality content.
I will tell you that its pretty damn good compared to most other VR that I've tried though.
Silly question but did you play with the focusing wheel at the top? also make sure its a tight fit and try moving the headset around on your head as it might not be sitting perfectly in front of your eyes.
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I did try several contents, but its also the Userinterface which is not clear to my eyes.
And yes, I did try the wheel, but I dont mind silly questions, I'll try to move with my head!
was playing with this, the effect is amazing its just the resolution aint the best some of the content is just very bad , i tried the cinema and that was really amazing experience the seats next to you seem so real, i can only imagine when quality is like what we get with 1080p on tv screen then it would be something id probably watch movies on , this just seems the beginning , cant wait till it gets better
I have had a gear VR since the early developer edition for the Note 4. The new Gear VR supplied with the S7 is a great improvement. But I am afraid the resolution will always be a bit fuzzy, as essentially you are viewing the screen very close to your eyes and then magnified. You will see the pixels like you would if you used a magnifying glass against the screen. It's the limitations of the technology mostly and this is why I was hoping for a 4K screen on the S7 this time around as that would improve things a lot, as would some of the movies being shot in a higher resolution.
As a side note remember to wipe your phone screen as clean as possible before inserting into the VR and make sure that you do not touch the lenses as you do so. Any greasy smudge (or fibre from a cloth) will impair the viewing.
In my opinion, considering how relatively cheap the Gear VR is and how much content is available which continues to grow, it still is a fantastic experience overall. Samsung have got the ball rolling and we can only expect this technology to improve.
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blah, I gotta wait for my Gear VR to come in
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I have had a gear VR since the early developer edition for the Note 4. The new Gear VR supplied with the S7 is a great improvement. But I am afraid the resolution will always be a bit fuzzy, as essentially you are viewing the screen very close to your eyes and then magnified. You will see the pixels like you would if you used a magnifying glass against the screen. It's the limitations of the technology mostly and this is why I was hoping for a 4K screen on the S7 this time around as that would improve things a lot, as would some of the movies being shot in a higher resolution.
As a side note remember to wipe your phone screen as clean as possible before inserting into the VR and make sure that you do not touch the lenses as you do so. Any greasy smudge (or fibre from a cloth) will impair the viewing.
In my opinion, considering how relatively cheap the Gear VR is and how much content is available which continues to grow, it still is a fantastic experience overall. Samsung have got the ball rolling and we can only expect this technology to improve.
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What is this great improvement that you speak of? I also have the developer edition for the S6. My Gear VR for the S7 is coming in tomorrow...
contentryder said:
What is this great improvement that you speak of? I also have the developer edition for the S6. My Gear VR for the S7 is coming in tomorrow...
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I don't know what the S6 developer edition is like. I am comparing the original Gear VR "developer edition" that was released with the Note 4, to the ones that are now shipping with the S7, so you personally may not see too much difference. But it's lighter, less bulky, has better ventilation, more comfortable padding, a micro usb port for charging on the go and is compatible with various galaxy phones now.
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regnighc said:
Agreed its out of this world, have you tried catatonic in the vrse app? it will scare the living s**t out of you
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I'll give it a go when I can!
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I wish I could post the video of my wife using it for first time absolutely brilliant stuff. But she won't let me. Even used the word divorce. She was trying the Jurassic world demo and it was worth it just for that.
marcgear said:
I wish I could post the video of my wife using it for first time absolutely brilliant stuff. But she won't let me. Even used the word divorce. She was trying the Jurassic world demo and it was worth it just for that.
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Yeah, similar one here mate. My Mrs said, "oh boys with toys", but then she started using it and her face was a picture, huge cheesy smile
Just let my old man have a go and even he figured out how to play it and said it was literally like looking at the future.
The best way I can explain it is that is essentially like being literally in one of the lawnmower man simulations!
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Yeah, similar one here mate. My Mrs said, "oh boys with toys", but then she started using it and her face was a picture, huge cheesy smile
Just let my old man have a go and even he figured out how to play it and said it was literally like looking at the future.
The best way I can explain it is that is essentially like being literally in one of the lawnmower man simulations!
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Got to be honest I wasn't expecting much but very very surprised
Hmm...
its a pretty neat first impression but its too blurry for me to use at this point. unless there is some better content coming soon. cannot seem to find my 6 game bundle tho.. perhaps its not available until the "official" release... *shrug*
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Agreed its out of this world, have you tried catatonic in the vrse app? it will scare the living s**t out of you
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Where can I find that app?
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regnighc said:
Agreed its out of this world, have you tried catatonic in the vrse app? it will scare the living s**t out of you
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Nevermind I found it
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regnighc said:
Agreed its out of this world, have you tried catatonic in the vrse app? it will scare the living s**t out of you
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Okay I found the vrse app but when I open it nothing is shown. Just an open "world" and the vrse logo...
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regnighc said:
You can make out the pixels in certain content, I noticed that streaming sometimes improves as the video progresses. You can certainly notice the difference between good quality content and not so good quality content.
I will tell you that its pretty damn good compared to most other VR that I've tried though.
Silly question but did you play with the focusing wheel at the top? also make sure its a tight fit and try moving the headset around on your head as it might not be sitting perfectly in front of your eyes.
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That's exactly what I thought. I was watching a 360 videoand the quality was crap. After a minute it looked great!
How do you view your own video and photos ?
It says to view your own photos and video they should be in the gallery which they are but oculus library is empty ?
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marcgear said:
I wish I could post the video of my wife using it for first time absolutely brilliant stuff. But she won't let me. Even used the word divorce. She was trying the Jurassic world demo and it was worth it just for that.
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I have a video of my mum watching catatonic and its hilarious! My wife refuses to watch it though.