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Initial Thoughts, Reviews & Comparisons

In this thread I'll collect hands-on reviews/videos aswell as a place for us all to post pur initial thoughts on the Note 3.​
Once it's actually released, this will be the perfect place to collect user submitted reviews aswell as full reviews found from around the internet.
Any initial reviews or reviews once the device is released from XDA members will be linked in Post #2 for easy reference.
If you find any reviews or initial thoughts which aren't already posted in this thread, please let me know so I can add it to the OP.​
[SIZE=+2]Initial Hands-On Reviews[/SIZE]​
Android Police Hands-on at IFA 2013
PC Advisor Hands-on Review - a thinner, lighter and brighter phablet
Mashable Hands-on - A Refined Note
TechRadar Hands-on Review - this is an evolution and a half
CNet Hands-on Review
Android Central - Hands-on Review
Engadget - Hands-on Review
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3 things that I was a bit disappointed with:
1. Screen is not a flexible one like the concept shown a while ago (with side screen for notifications)
2. Screen not flexible can be compensated by a larger screen (6"?), but it's not much bigger.
3. Why does it have to look like a gs2? Are we going backwards in fashion?
Just some of my thoughts...
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^^ Well, screen might can bendable. But how do you bend those battery, and other circuits inside?
Even if that is possible as a prototype in labs, I am sure such tech is not ready for mass production. Not to forget, the cost associated will be just too high.

how big is the screen?

Front facing speakers and a bigger screen would of been the icing on the cake for me. Still can't wait to buy one though (just sold my note 2)
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The big question is how locked down the bootloader will be and on which models/ carriers. For example since im in canada my s4 does not have and never did have a locked bootloader. The last update on at&t has negated the ability to do anything other than root at this point.
If the note 3 is going that route I will spend my money elsewhere, I hope this is not the case however
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DMax99 said:
3. Why does it have to look like a gs2? Are we going backwards in fashion?
Just some of my thoughts...
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Personally, that's one of the selling points for me. I had an S2 and loved it because it was a powerful little thing and it's design is, in my opinion, better than Samsung devices since then.
If I'd liked the look of any Samsung device since then, chances are I would've stayed with them instead of venturing towards a Sony and HTC.
Yeah the specs are great but I wouldn't even think about buying the Note 3 if it looked similar to previous iterations.
Zpik said:
how big is the screen?
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5.7 inches
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androidflea said:
Front facing speakers and a bigger screen would of been the icing on the cake for me. Still can't wait to buy one though (just sold my note 2)
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As you can see by my signature, I have the One and have been amazed by the improvements by simply having front facing speakers so I definitely agree that it would've been a great addition.
As it currently stands though, it's not really much of a set back.
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CLARiiON said:
^^ Well, screen might can bendable. But how do you bend those battery, and other circuits inside?
Even if that is possible as a prototype in labs, I am sure such tech is not ready for mass production. Not to forget, the cost associated will be just too high.
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Have you seen this:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/9/3855960/samsung-flexible-oled-phone-prototype-hands-on
If the Note 3 had this I would have been super excited about it and call it the BEST phone out in the market atm! :victory:
I take back my comment about the overall design looking like a GS2 because I think it reminds me of the original GN1 more now

DMax99 said:
Have you seen this:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/9/3855960/samsung-flexible-oled-phone-prototype-hands-on
If the Note 3 had this I would have been super excited about it and call it the BEST phone out in the market atm! :victory:
I take back my comment about the overall design looking like a GS2 because I think it reminds me of the original GN1 more now
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Keyword: prototype
We still don't know how much it costs for mass production. Reliability is another concern. Definitely it will get such a device in future for sure.

CLARiiON said:
Keyword: prototype
We still don't know how much it costs for mass production. Reliability is another concern. Definitely it will get such a device in future for sure.
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Yeah its only a prototype which many thought were going to be implemented into the gs4..
Maybe you're right about the cost or maybe they just don't want to bring out the big guns yet ;p
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Wow.. There's the pink colour GN3 already!
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I feel the Note 3 is a great upgrade from what I've read. I like that it has a envelope tracker. Saving you up to 30% battery life while connected to LTE.
Then you have a very fast processor the S800 running at 2.3ghz max. The 330 GPU that will play anything on the market and many high end games to come. I'm not a very big gamer on phones but I think I will be if I got the Note 3.
I also like the new S-pen features, though there is more optimizations then features. It's still great what Samsung has done. Like the scrapbook, it now will save the metadata of whatever you put in you're scrapbook making it much more useful. And the new floating windows that you can open by just drawing a box of whatever size you want the app to run in.
Battery life is said to have up to 4 more hours of on screen time. Of course it all depends on what is on you're screen but still, I find that a big improvement. But it's mainly due to the S800, it's optimized much better then I thought it would have been. Of course this is all based off of what I've read. But it sounds about right.
Furthermore, you get a much more powerful device. In a all around smaller and lighter package. Sadly the screen is pentile from what I've seen so far. But at 1920x1080 and a 5.68" display pentile should be passable. I've read it looks just as good or better then the Note 2's display. And reading full non mobile web pages without zooming in shouldn't be a problem. Yes you can do that with the Note 2 but only in landscape mode.
I would love to be able to upgrade. It's been keeping me up at night... Gratz to everyone that's able to get this wonderful device.
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Since I still have the Note 1, the Note 3 is a welcomed upgrade for me.
I wish the desktop feeling has improved when connecting the Note to a FullHD TV. I guess I will buy the Snapdrogon 800 version, since the octa core version will not be as good supported by Mod development, even if the Octa Core might be faster.

Engadget's Hands-on Review
Two years ago, at a consumer electronics show in Berlin, Samsung took to the stage and unveiled the introduction to what is now a booming smartphone genre. The 5.3-inch monstrosity, called the Galaxy Note, has blossomed into one of the Korean manufacturer's biggest brands. Today the same company is unveiling the Galaxy Note 3, the second sequel in a series of supersized stylus-smitten smartphones, which is even taller, narrower and thinner than the first two of its kind. As expected, the new 5.7-inch Note not only utilizes a S-Pen but enhances its functionality and adds better hardware and components to ensure it's able to handle anything you can throw at it.​
Click the link to see the rest of their review
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VtIltT...=/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VtIltT8naUY
From gsmarena.
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Just a quick comparison, between the 2 newest things out there so far, Gnote3 vs LG G2:
http://www.androidcentral.com/quick-comparison-lg-g2-versus-samsung-galaxy-note-3
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Murray Winiata, a NZ blogger, got hold of a Note 3 and posted his opinions on his twitter page yesterday. Overall he is very positive about it and he is a demanding and informed reviewer.
Some of you may remember he wrote a really detailed review of the Note 1 on his blog and hopefully he will get around to doing the same for the Note 3. I think he sometimes posts here too.

Note 3 Scroll Tests

I am extremely disappointed that scrolling on the Note 3 isn't "buttery smooth" as claimed by many reviewers. I have found scrolling to be janky and jittery most of the time. It completely destroys the touch metaphor. I have posted some examples on YouTube. Unfortunately my camera isn't very good and doesn't shoot at a high enough frame-rate to show just how bad the problem really is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSG9SGP-hyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3hEDJWe5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucDko2cQQhw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lri0VVQe078

This problem exists with all android device not just note 3.
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Unfortunately i notice too, it's the thing i look first when using a new phone.

I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.
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I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.

You're comparing it with devices from other platforms. In that case, wouldn't it be more accurate to refer to android and Google in your comments instead of note3 and samsung ?
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Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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I agree. ios is all about a pretty experience (not they they have succeeded with ios 7). Pretty is not necessarily a bad thing but that is the prime focus for Sir Ive et al. That said, it is still a little surprising that a processor of the power of SD800 isn't always smooth!
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I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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lynkchiz said:
I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.

tWoBrO said:
Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.
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The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites. Of course the overlay that samsung and other OEMs put on top of android doesn't help in that regard either.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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Ignore. Double post.

scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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Gotta disagree here, the App Store on my iPhone 5 is horrid the first time it loads? Sometimes taking

scott.deagan said:
Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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You can read this article, has some interesting insight as to why Android is not as smooth as say iOS is. I don't own this device yet, but I've been using the HTC One which is the smoothest android experience I've had to date. It's still not as smooth as my wife's iPhone but it's approaching it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-can-never-be-as-smooth-as-iOS-myth-busted_id26252

MohJee said:
The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites.
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I'm not confused at all, and i agree with you about the advantages of Android. I'm perfectly aware of that, that's why i bought one, and i have had many others, instead of an iOS device.
I will say it again, i have bought a Note 3 that costs about the same as an iPhone in my country. And that's because i think the Note is way better for my needs!
But this isn't a fight to see what OS is better, or what phone, i don't want to go there at all. I don't care about that. I'm just talking about a specific issue that bothers me with my phone, and that i have experience in my 4+ years experience with Android.
Every one wants more and better, i'm no different. Apparently some ppl don't care about this issue, others don't even see it, but i do and i would like it to be a little better. Don't see what the problem is here.
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.

tWoBrO said:
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.
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Of course, I feel the same way exactly. I want the best of both worlds. This is the nature of all human beings. Without it, civilization itself wouldn't have existed
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I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .

scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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hagba said:
I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .
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I'm not the most informed, but I believe that Java has drastically improved in speed (JIT and I think you can use JNI). Also, 2 seems to be from Munn's piece (which is inaccurate).

Videos unsharped, washed out and dropping frame rates via Youtube app

Hi, anyone here noticed watching HD videos via the Youtube app to be unsharp, washed out and dropping frame rates? I compared it to my Galaxy Nexus side by side and I noticed that the videos dropping frame rates. Feels like my Galaxy Nexus runs 60fps and the Nexus 5 30fps.
Would like to know if I am the only one experiencing it? Please share your thoughts.
Cheers!

Yes I would agree
Kilsyth said:
Hi, anyone here noticed watching HD videos via the Youtube app to be unsharp, washed out and dropping frame rates? I compared it to my Galaxy Nexus side by side and I noticed that the videos dropping frame rates. Feels like my Galaxy Nexus runs 60fps and the Nexus 5 30fps.
Would like to know if I am the only one experiencing it? Please share your thoughts.
Cheers!
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I will definitely agree with you. Video playback (HD even) is not sharp and washed out. Looks almost interpolated for some reason. Tested side by side playing exact same video over fast wifi with a HTC One and a Nokia Windows phone. I thought it was just me, thanks for bringing this to attention... a lot of things annoy me about the N5 but I won't go into that.
If someone is used to premium hardware such as an HTC One, then this is most definitely NOT a phone to "upgrade" to just for the sake of the new OS. N5 is definitely not a premium build, but it's not priced as one either... It is also just not as responsive in many aspects next to my One and I used both for a day. For someone coming from a more inferior handset though, it no doubt would be an upgrade. To each his own

I am seeing this on youtube but not on other apps. Hulu, Netflix, etc... all look great and stream smoothly even on HSPA.

Buffalo66 said:
I will definitely agree with you. Video playback (HD even) is not sharp and washed out. Looks almost interpolated for some reason. Tested side by side playing exact same video over fast wifi with a HTC One and a Nokia Windows phone. I thought it was just me, thanks for bringing this to attention... a lot of things annoy me about the N5 but I won't go into that.
If someone is used to premium hardware such as an HTC One, then this is most definitely NOT a phone to "upgrade" to just for the sake of the new OS. N5 is definitely not a premium build, but it's not priced as one either... It is also just not as responsive in many aspects next to my One and I used both for a day. For someone coming from a more inferior handset though, it no doubt would be an upgrade. To each his own
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Yeah, I think so too. Let's hope this is only related to optimization and not hardware related. I think we need this thread to be active and maybe get the attention of Nexus 5 users and hopefully by Google. I really don't want to think "we got what we paid for"
But for the specs inside this beast, I am expecting a bit more.

raptir said:
I am seeing this on youtube but not on other apps. Hulu, Netflix, etc... all look great and stream smoothly even on HSPA.
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That's great news! I hope this is only related to the native YouTube app. Thanks for your input!
Cheers!

Kilsyth said:
That's great news! I hope this is only related to the native YouTube app. Thanks for your input!
Cheers!
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That's a bit better but still ludicrous for a phone with Snapdragon 800. I am guessing it has something to do with 4.4 compatibility. Either way, I hope they fix it before I get my next phone.

Yes, I'm also seeing this issue on my Nexus 5 which is very annoying as YouTube is my most frequently used app :laugh:
For most videos, it's fine, but for video where there are fast action scenes (i.e. sports videos), the problem is very noticeable and the videos are barely watchable.
I was considering selling the phone just because of this and going back to my Nexus 4.

Yeah, the Youtube app is broken. There's a lot of stuttering going on.

Live wallpapers seem to have this problem as well. Please let Google know that this is occurring in their product forums.

Get a device with an amoled screen
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I only use YouTube via Chromecast (sent from my Nexus 5 to my TV) and everything looks great.
The few times I watched anything directly on my phone, everything looked fine.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676544

There is an alternative app called Viral on the playstore. I've ended up removing the YouTube apk as Viral is simply better but I don't know if it will address all your concerns. I don't notice stuttering on either my N5 or 10 but do see buffering on occasion which is seen on both the stock YouTube app and Viral. Personally I think this is a Google server/services issue or Android bug because Web access is fast when the buffering occurs.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrzheng.supertubeplayer
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Ahh Samsung, why can't you be a little more like Apple sometimes??

Ok, don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan, at all of any Apple device. I had Apple when they were actually Cool, the original 2G, 3G 3GS and 4. Then, its a mix of rehashes and more and more catching up. Bit damn Samsung, WHY??????
2 quick example. Gear S2. Fantastic watch, after all after like what 6 or 7 tries, they finally got an amazing device. And yet, S-Voice will recognize the command "remind me to call Fred at 2pm" but will deny you any freaking reminder. Why is it so hard for Samsung to put some finishing touches where little things count.
Also, why don't we have a darn stock sleep monitor? Why would I pay a 3rd party dev to do this, and worst part, it doesn't even integrate with S-Health.
Samsung, you need to start working of the finer things in life. The S7 edge is an other frustrating example. Such a gorgeous phone, I have one, i hated the s6 edge, but this one, its a piece of art. And im sure it will be one of the best selling phone in the past few years. But everything that makes the S7 edge special, is basically the edge right? well then look in the edge apps, and find the same dev selling like 60% of the edge panels, in the entire store, for 2$, that basically emulates functions Samsung should have already had. Edge feeds, there are 2. 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If apple did this, there would probably already have at least 1000. Don't believe me? The Apple watch is a piece of garbage, and yet it has 50x more apps then the 7th edition of the Samsung watch.
Within 2 years, if they wanted, they could rule the entire planet and upsell any other oem 5 to 1. But, i feel like they don't want that, they just want to get by, just enough to stay above the rest of Android, and let apple keep selling boring phones that keep taking market share from them.
Sorry about my rant. I love you Samsung, i'm loyal, but **** has to change.
P.S. Its time for you to take carriers by the neck and IMPOSE UPDATES. There is no reason the same exact device half way around the world in Poland or something gets the new android half a year before the most important market in the world.

polish_pat said:
Ok, don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan, at all of any Apple device. I had Apple when they were actually Cool, the original 2G, 3G 3GS and 4. Then, its a mix of rehashes and more and more catching up. Bit damn Samsung, WHY??????
2 quick example. Gear S2. Fantastic watch, after all after like what 6 or 7 tries, they finally got an amazing device. And yet, S-Voice will recognize the command "remind me to call Fred at 2pm" but will deny you any freaking reminder. Why is it so hard for Samsung to put some finishing touches where little things count.
Also, why don't we have a darn stock sleep monitor? Why would I pay a 3rd party dev to do this, and worst part, it doesn't even integrate with S-Health.
Samsung, you need to start working of the finer things in life. The S7 edge is an other frustrating example. Such a gorgeous phone, I have one, i hated the s6 edge, but this one, its a piece of art. And im sure it will be one of the best selling phone in the past few years. But everything that makes the S7 edge special, is basically the edge right? well then look in the edge apps, and find the same dev selling like 60% of the edge panels, in the entire store, for 2$, that basically emulates functions Samsung should have already had. Edge feeds, there are 2. 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If apple did this, there would probably already have at least 1000. Don't believe me? The Apple watch is a piece of garbage, and yet it has 50x more apps then the 7th edition of the Samsung watch.
Within 2 years, if they wanted, they could rule the entire planet and upsell any other oem 5 to 1. But, i feel like they don't want that, they just want to get by, just enough to stay above the rest of Android, and let apple keep selling boring phones that keep taking market share from them.
Sorry about my rant. I love you Samsung, i'm loyal, but **** has to change.
P.S. Its time for you to take carriers by the neck and IMPOSE UPDATES. There is no reason the same exact device half way around the world in Poland or something gets the new android half a year before the most important market in the world.
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One thing I will say in Samsung's defense is that at least the apps we do have available for the Gear S2 load within 2-3 seconds. When I had the Apple Watch I gave up on 3rd party apps because they'd take so long to load that I'd end up just taking out my phone.

Yes. But it's also tge 7th gen. Or close. Although between the first gear and the apple watch, i do think the first gear was miles ahead with tge IR and camera
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The apple watch is the worst attempt if apple at anything. Its really is bad with itz 3/4 day battery life and lag
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polish_pat said:
The apple watch is the worst attempt if apple at anything. Its really is bad with itz 3/4 day battery life and lag
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Tried all of the smartwatches and the Apple Watch seemed to be the only one that was actually something one could even use on a daily basis - the Samsung Gear S2 was just awful. Wasn't prepared for it either as I thought the Gear S2 would be the best with the Apple Watch coming dead last, but that wasn't the case. Would even take an Android Wear watch any day of the week over the Gear S2. Imho Samsung should create a more advanced fitness-band to compete with the Fitbit, with S-Voice/Google-Voice integration.

Ok. That's one opinion. My friend that works at apple, hardcore fan sold his after 2 months. Hes just waiting for the ios compatibility to get the s2. Honestly i had the apple watch i borrowed it from him and its fat, clunky, not comfortable to sleep with, and unlike the gear s2 which does 4 days, it barely got me from 7am to 7pm
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I really like to rotating bezel on the s2
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if Samsung like Apple and Apple like Samsung ... who's going to buy Samsung and who's going to buy Apple? I think it's called business ... where both Apple and Samsung get a lot of money from ...... us.
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thyk888358 said:
if Samsung like Apple and Apple like Samsung ... who's going to buy Samsung and who's going to buy Apple? I think it's called business ... where both Apple and Samsung get a lot of money from ...... us.
Lol
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Actually there is no Apple. It's all Samsung and don't you forget that son. [emoji12]
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I have a Gear S2 and a Moto 360 2nd gen, and absolutely LOVE the S2.
It is fast as heck, I get 2-3 days battery life easily, love the rotary dial, and find the apps easy to use...
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well then look in the edge apps, and find the same dev selling like 60% of the edge panels, in the entire store, for 2$, that basically emulates functions Samsung should have already had.
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I just got the S7E, I'm curious what good apps there are for the edge displays? The stock Samsung ones are nothing special.

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I just got the S7E, I'm curious what good apps there are for the edge displays? The stock Samsung ones are nothing special.
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Go to the Galaxy Apps store, select "Exclusives", then scroll down a bit until you get to Edge Specials.

Yep, I looked i there, but there's only a couple. I thought the OP was saying there are good ones in the Play store.

the_scotsman said:
Yep, I looked i there, but there's only a couple. I thought the OP was saying there are good ones in the Play store.
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Lol what exactly in what I said led you to understand that?
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Lol what exactly in what I said led you to understand that?
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In my last post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66232088&postcount=12

the_scotsman said:
In my last post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66232088&postcount=12
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dude i read it. And I will ask again, what leads you to believe i am pointing you to anything positive?

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dude i read it. And I will ask again, what leads you to believe i am pointing you to anything positive?
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Maybe I misread it. Your post is somewhat muddled and a little difficult to understand.
You said:
find the same dev selling like 60% of the edge panels, in the entire store, for 2$, that basically emulates functions Samsung should have already had.
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To me, if you think it should have been in the device as stock, you think it's a positive thing.
But anyway, I'm not here to argue over a small point.

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Maybe I misread it. Your post is somewhat muddled and a little difficult to understand.
You said:
To me, if you think it should have been in the device as stock, you think it's a positive thing.
But anyway, I'm not here to argue over a small point.
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You ignore a critical parts of this rant. "Great devices, with great flaws." Thats the subject here. And i'm talking about flaws made by choice, not because of a hardware or battery life problem.
The part you ignore is "The S7 edge is an other frustrating example.......go to apps store (and so on)" I'm saying this is the s7 EDGE. And whats more about the edge? whats the potential, 8 panels, 6 of them made by the same unimaginative dev that takes stock apps and puts them on the side and charges 2$ for them
Get it now?

I don't see the point at posting a rant at Samsung on an unaffiliated hacking forum that has nothing to do with Samsung

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You ignore a critical parts of this rant. "Great devices, with great flaws." Thats the subject here. And i'm talking about flaws made by choice, not because of a hardware or battery life problem.
The part you ignore is "The S7 edge is an other frustrating example.......go to apps store (and so on)" I'm saying this is the s7 EDGE. And whats more about the edge? whats the potential, 8 panels, 6 of them made by the same unimaginative dev that takes stock apps and puts them on the side and charges 2$ for them
Get it now?
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So you want Samsung to have stock edge panels that a developer has that you don't think are any good?
I joke, looking at some of the edge panels available for download, I absolutely agree it's ridiculous to charge for them after people have just paid so much for the phone.

Front camera Flash with android such as iphone?

Hello,
Is there any good app or method to make my s8 takes HQ selfies with front flash/bright screen same as iphones?
I tried to find a good app at play store but no luck
Any idea?

MamomaN said:
Hello,
Is there any good app or method to make my s8 takes HQ selfies with front flash/bright screen same as iphones?
I tried to find a good app at play store but no luck
Any idea?
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It's a hardware limitation, not a software limitation, your front camera doesn't have the same quality as the rear camera. I doubt you'll improve the quality much at all.
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Droidriven said:
It's a hardware limitation, not a software limitation, your front camera doesn't have the same quality as the rear camera. I doubt you'll improve the quality much at all.
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light is magic.
i know that because i'm a photographer
a little help from the front screen could make the photo WAY too better

MamomaN said:
yup i tried it
but it's very weak and not even same as iPhone's one
it gives a little blink with dark yellow color not even bright enough to give some light
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Lots of things iPhone has doesn't exist in the android world, get used to it or get an iPhone.
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Droidriven said:
Lots of things iPhone has doesn't exist in the android world, get used to it or get an iPhone.
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I edited my reply^
btw. s8 had this option like iPhone already but it needs some improvements
as i said. light is magic when it comes to photography
and thanks for your advice , i'm not getting iPhone

MamomaN said:
I edited my reply^
btw. s8 had this option like iPhone already but it needs some improvements
as i said. light is magic when it comes to photography
and thanks for your advice , i'm not getting iPhone
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I don't own and haven't used S8, have you looked in the S8 forums here to see if anyone has tried improving it?
I wasn't really suggesting that you get iPhone. I wouldn't own one either. I was more or less saying that android and iPhone are not equal. iPhone focuses on the highest quality hardware which is why their devices are so popular and have the price point that they have. Android manufacturers don't focus so much on hardware as Apple does, android does this to keep the cost of the device down in order to attract more customers. If they focused on hardware like Apple, they probably wouldn't sell as many devices because consumers would say "if I'm going to spend that much then I may as well just get an iPhone and have better hardware"
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I don't own and haven't used S8, have you looked in the S8 forums here to see if anyone has tried improving it?
I wasn't really suggesting that you get iPhone. I wouldn't own one either. I was more or less saying that android and iPhone are not equal. iPhone focuses on the highest quality hardware which is why their devices are so popular and have the price point that they have. Android manufacturers don't focus so much on hardware as Apple does, android does this to keep the cost of the device down in order to attract more customers. If they focused on hardware like Apple, they probably wouldn't sell as many devices because consumers would say "if I'm going to spend that much then I may as well just get an iPhone and have better hardware"
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yup i'm trying to fine some ideas there at s8 forums.
it's ok , i understand it. thanks for your try anyway

Greetings,
I am new to app development and was asked to make something which I believe would be easy for any of you to explain : D A small part of my project is to do an App that allows a screen flash, but I want to be able to manipulate the gradient of the light (not only white, but others as well...maybe RGB?). I know nothing of app dev, was thinking of using android studio although it seems to treat my pc pretty roughly. Any suggestions or tips would be very well recieved
Thanks!