[Q] No more Custom Roms?? :S - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Tell me that this is not true. I just read an article thats says in summary that in android 4.4 because of a security feature we might be loosing the ability to flash custom Roms...This frustrates me because I am getting the Nexus 5 for this exact reason (ROMS) and why Im getting rid of my I9500 S4. Please Developers tell me what you know about this. :S
Article: http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-4-verified-boot-314636/

nabil alami said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Tell me that this is not true. I just read an article thats says in summary that in android 4.4 because of a security feature we might be loosing the ability to flash custom Roms...This frustrates me because I am getting the Nexus 5 for this exact reason (ROMS) and why Im getting rid of my I9500 S4. Please Developers tell me what you know about this. :S
Article: http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-4-verified-boot-314636/
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"However all is not lost, first there aren’t actually any devices yet shipping in this configuration so it is too early to tell how prominent this will become."
Don't worry...Yet.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
"However all is not lost, first there aren’t actually any devices yet shipping in this configuration so it is too early to tell how prominent this will become."
Don't worry...Yet.
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I seriously hope this will not happen, because it wouldn't be Android anymore :/

Manufacturers who ship devices with locked bootloaders and with dm-verity enabled will be effectively closing the door on custom firmware installations.
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Is this the case with the N5? No. You can unlock your bootloader. And whatever that other thing is, I doubt it applies to the N5...

Nope
I have not read this article. The new security features will stop you from rooting a device (using traditional methods) but any devices which can be unlocked can install custom roms and then also be rooted
Nexus devices can ALWAYS be unlocked and therefore can ALWAYS be rooted!

This is why you get a nexus device. Manufactures and especially carriers are locking down their phones to the point they're not any fun to own anymore. But nexus will always have custom roms and unlockable bootloaders

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root on locked bootloader KITKAT in DROID RAZR MAXX HD? ?

have any one with root on latest kitkat with locked bootloader in MOTO DROID RAZR MAXX HD?
sachi9121 said:
have any one with root on latest kitkat with locked bootloader in MOTO DROID RAZR MAXX HD?
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No, Its currently not possible, and it isn't very likely that a way will be found.
TXKSSnapper said:
No, Its currently not possible, and it isn't very likely that a way will be found.
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Why is EVERYONE so quick to shoot down the fact this cannot be rooted. Is anyone trying?
Kin Kira said:
Why is EVERYONE so quick to shoot down the fact this cannot be rooted. Is anyone trying?
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if you were as fast at reading a few post in the General forum on this exact topic, as you are at posting about it here. you would already know, this has been gone over extensively, by people who know what they are doing. you would also know, that every option suggested has been thoroughly explored and tested. you would also know, that as far as anyone is aware, no one is publicly working on a solution, as this phone is past its prime and most if not all of the people capable of finding an exploit are not willing to spend time finding one.
had you read for 5 minutes before posting, you would already know this, #Just-Sayin
TXKSSnapper said:
No, Its currently not possible, and it isn't very likely that a way will be found.
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bweN diorD said:
if you were as fast at reading a few post in the General forum on this exact topic, as you are at posting about it here. you would already know, this has been gone over extensively, by people who know what they are doing. you would also know, that every option suggested has been thoroughly explored and tested. you would also know, that as far as anyone is aware, no one is publicly working on a solution, as this phone is past its prime and most if not all of the people capable of finding an exploit are not willing to spend time finding one.
had you read for 5 minutes before posting, you would already know this, #Just-Sayin
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There's phones well over a year and a half old still being played with. I'm simply shocked this isn't.
Kin Kira said:
There's phones well over a year and a half old still being played with. I'm simply shocked this isn't.
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last i checked the s5 kitkat root bounty was over $17,000, and thats a new phone.
that should tell you something about how hard it is on kk.
bweN diorD said:
last i checked the s5 kitkat root bounty was over $17,000, and thats a new phone.
that should tell you something about how hard it is on kk.
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Oh damn. It's KitKat that's the issue than? I'm out of the loop it seems. I was under the assumption it was the phone itself people couldn't root. It's KitKat that's causing the issue. Okay. Hmm, I wonder if there's any root methods for 4.4.2 yet....
Kin Kira said:
Why is EVERYONE so quick to shoot down the fact this cannot be rooted. Is anyone trying?
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Yes, attempts have been made. Alas, without any success. See here. And this is the thread for it.
Kin Kira said:
Oh damn. It's KitKat that's the issue than? I'm out of the loop it seems. I was under the assumption it was the phone itself people couldn't root. It's KitKat that's causing the issue. Okay. Hmm, I wonder if there's any root methods for 4.4.2 yet....
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Uh, that's what we've been saying. No, there's not except possibly for a few phones and all those methods have been tried with this and they didn't work as Motorola had already fixed those exploits.
The only way to root this phone under KitKat is to have an unlocked bootloader, and there is NO way to do that anymore, period.
The original unlocking exploit took the Dan a long time to find it and a lot of testing. That exploit is long gone and cannot be put back onto the phone as it was patched into a protected zone of the phone that even unlocked bootloaders do not have access to write to. So, there is NO way to flash back to a previous version of JB that had the exploit and have it "patch" the exploit back in. Yes, you'll go back to JB, but not exploit will be there.
And please understand the frustration from some of us - you're is possibly the 200th time this was asked. If you actually searched the forums and read the postings, you would see there are huge threads about this issue. That's the main reason why so many of us are frustrated with this question because it keeps getting asked and it's sitting right here in other threads and so, the forum is getting polluted with the same question being asked, over and over again. If people would just take the time to research for themselves rather than just jumping in and asking the question, it would make this forum lest polluted. What's funny is, the questions all come from people who have just registered on this forum (they all had posts < 10). It's very frustrating.

Is Development Dead?

This is more just a general question of your opinion. I can't believe it's been almost a year and no bootloader unlock. I would have loved to see CM running on this device. It almost makes me want to go back to HTC because they openly allow the bootloader to be unlocked. IMO I think we have reached as best as we can with the echo ROM. I uninstalled it due to it not having much benefits. What are your thoughts on this device? Do you think we will ever see a bootloader unlock or is devolopment dead on this device?
I believe that development might pick up again with nougat's official January (i believe) release because it offers much more than Marshmallow. Maybe we'll get an official bootloader unlock or some dev on his spare time finds a way to do it. CM either way is only being made personally through devs now (closed its doors yesterday) but there will be a forthcoming with LineageOS from the same team.
Yeah I read about cm and lineage. So if I'm understanding. An OS update could provide a new vulnerability and allow an unlocked bootloader?
Keyword there is could. Hopefully some progress down the line would be nice and if we got to start a prize pot for it, I wouldn't mind.
I would definitely kick in some money to a bootloader unlock bounty. Right now my only 2 complaints with the s7 are lack of custom roms and not being able to find a good full coverage glass screen protector. If I can help one of those I will. I am half tempted to sell my tmo s7 and buy an exynos s7 because there seems to be more development there. But I'll wait for nougat.
jah feel
I feel your pain. When I first planned on getting the S7, I was excited about getting a sexy-design phone with better specs and putting all my music on the phone via a 128GB SD card and chilling out with ViPER4Android... but that was all a dream. I've been very hesitant to go through with the current root method because from what I've read, there are tons of bugs to deal with and tons of tweaks to do to not get very far in the end. I'm honestly very sad about this purchase. If I had more time to research the locked bootloader issue, I would have gone with a different phone. But my S5 finally gave up and I had to get a new phone ASAP. I would also pitch in for a bootloader unlock or something. I mainly want a stable phone with ViPER4Android. Can't live without it... it's been hell. Halp pl0x.
I would definetely pay for an unlocked bootloader also. The exynos definitely seems to have more devolpment than the u.s. But I'm rooted and after flashing a fix+debloat and installing Xposed everything is running smooth. It would be awesome to see more devolepment though.
sparky2029 said:
I would definetely pay for an unlocked bootloader also. The exynos definitely seems to have more devolpment than the u.s. But I'm rooted and after flashing a fix+debloat and installing Xposed everything is running smooth. It would be awesome to see more devolepment though.
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Can you link me to the posts about the fix+debloat you flashed please? I have tried rooting and couldn't figure out how to fix the super slowness and the overheating. Also, what Firmware are you running?
r3xx3r said:
Can you link me to the posts about the fix+debloat you flashed please? I have tried rooting and couldn't figure out how to fix the super slowness and the overheating. Also, what Firmware are you running?
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Sure thing buddy here you go https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s7/help/development-dead-t3530239#post70398278
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r3xx3r said:
Can you link me to the posts about the fix+debloat you flashed please? I have tried rooting and couldn't figure out how to fix the super slowness and the overheating. Also, what Firmware are you running?
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Sorry I put the wrong link twice.. Heres the right one https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
It's under recommended next steps for the flash fix

Samsung Galaxy S10e [EXYNOS AND NOT ALL SD]Root made by possible with magisk

Courtesy and special thanks to John Wu developer of magisk!
Here is the info. It is highly recommended to read carefully and follow the instructions to the T. This is not for the faint of heart or newbies just trying to root their phone for the first time. You will lose some things (Knox and pay) and gain some great things by rooting this device.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-s10e-s10-exynos-rooted-magisk-canary/
From what I understand people are even rooting their snap dragon versions of the phones as well. I would let the more experienced flashers help guide you through.
Thanks again to John Wu for bringing this to the table.
Possible with the snapdragon variant? I am new to this so Idk if snapdragon models ever gets the same treatment as the exonys versions
Going_Insomniac said:
Possible with the snapdragon variant? I am new to this so Idk if snapdragon models ever gets the same treatment as the exonys versions
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Like I mentioned before ..I believe I saw some people trying it on Twitter.. that's where I got most of my info from and then just kept watching.
Going_Insomniac said:
Possible with the snapdragon variant? I am new to this so Idk if snapdragon models ever gets the same treatment as the exonys versions
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Only Exynos version
It may one day be possible to do Snapdragon variant but unsure.
ironmaskusa said:
Courtesy and special thanks to John Wu developer of magisk!
Here is the info. It is highly recommended to read carefully and follow the instructions to the T. This is not for the faint of heart or newbies just trying to root their phone for the first time. You will lose some things (Knox and pay) and gain some great things by rooting this device.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-s10e-s10-exynos-rooted-magisk-canary/
From what I understand people are even rooting their snap dragon versions of the phones as well. I would let the more experienced flashers help guide you through.
Thanks again to John Wu for bringing this to the table.
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I'm gonna risk it and try in on snapdragon variant
Do Not try on the snapdragon variant.It will fail at vbmeta.img
Samsung is making it harder and harder to root devices. For Magisk to work, we technically have to boot to recovery every single time.
@ironmaskusa, you really should change the title and include "[EXYNOS and not all SD]" because this thread does not appy to North American Snapdragon devices, as topjohnwu himself stated. There are reports of Chinese/HK SD devices that have successfully gone through the procedure (and yet other Chinese/HK have failed), but for those of us with SM-G97OU/U1 and locked bootloaders, the Magisk procedure will not work.
lost_ said:
@ironmaskusa, you really should change the title and include "[EXYNOS and not all SD]" because this thread does not appy to North American Snapdragon devices, as topjohnwu himself stated. There are reports of Chinese/HK SD devices that have successfully gone through the procedure (and yet other Chinese/HK have failed), but for those of us with SM-G97OU/U1 and locked bootloaders, the Magisk procedure will not work.
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I can confirm it wont work,ganuteed to fail at vbmeta.img every time,plus Samsung implemented hash checks on partitions
I misspelled that word oof
Any news on the snapdragon variant? I'm getting the HK version, G9700 dualsim/snapdragon, and would be interested in getting working magisk.
I come from oneplus devices, friendly with twrp and stuff. Last sammy was tye S2...
Also, is there anyway to avoid knox triggering?
The pros of rooting dicreased a lot for me anyway, want to use substratum and a few silly magisk modules (especially for viper)
Let me know who's up to mod our G9700 and have some fun with it.
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Any news on the snapdragon variant? I'm getting the HK version, G9700 dualsim/snapdragon, and would be interested in getting working magisk.
I come from oneplus devices, friendly with twrp and stuff. Last sammy was tye S2...
Also, is there anyway to avoid knox triggering?
The pros of rooting dicreased a lot for me anyway, want to use substratum and a few silly magisk modules (especially for viper)
Let me know who's up to mod our G9700 and have some fun with it.
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I own a G9700 and have successfully rooted it. Knox WILL get tripped, and as of right now, I am having issues with the device rebooting randomly and issues with WiFi not connecting automatically. Also, disabling mobile data seems to keep the "4G" icon visible afterwards. Only problems i've encountered thus far
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I own a G9700 and have successfully rooted it. Knox WILL get tripped, and as of right now, I am having issues with the device rebooting randomly and issues with WiFi not connecting automatically. Also, disabling mobile data seems to keep the "4G" icon visible afterwards. Only problems i've encountered thus far
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Thanks for your reply.
Can someone give a detailed explanation or a link to information on why this won't work for us snapdragons. This is the first phone I've owned that I've not been able to root. Im not necessarily a noob to rooting phone(as in following a guide) but I'm very intrigued by the inner working of the process.
Does anyone have a link to any information that goes into detail on how one goes about finding an exploit to root a phone. I have a little bit of programming experience but I'm sure I'm no where in the realm of being able to come up with my own exploits. Im kind of seeking knowledge on what it would take in order to start learning how to circumvent the security on devices so one day I may be able to give back to the community by providing my own exploits.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. I love these forums and want to help the community but I don't know how to go about finding the information I need in order to start learning the essentials in going about finding exploits and providing root methods. Thank you everyone for your awesomeness.
If any mods feel this is in the wrong section please feel free to move it or let me know and I will create a new post.
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Can someone give a detailed explanation or a link to information on why this won't work for us snapdragons. This is the first phone I've owned that I've not been able to root. Im not necessarily a noob to rooting phone(as in following a guide) but I'm very intrigued by the inner working of the process.
Does anyone have a link to any information that goes into detail on how one goes about finding an exploit to root a phone. I have a little bit of programming experience but I'm sure I'm no where in the realm of being able to come up with my own exploits. Im kind of seeking knowledge on what it would take in order to start learning how to circumvent the security on devices so one day I may be able to give back to the community by providing my own exploits.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. I love these forums and want to help the community but I don't know how to go about finding the information I need in order to start learning the essentials in going about finding exploits and providing root methods. Thank you everyone for your awesomeness.
If any mods feel this is in the wrong section please feel free to move it or let me know and I will create a new post.
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Rooting won't work on US Qualcomm/Snapdragon S9/S10 devices because Samsung has tightened their security a lot since the S8. In fact even the S8 is difficult to root, it only works if you have an old bootloader. Your best option is to go with the international/global "F" devices which has full custom recovery, Magisk, hide root, etc. While they say that the intentional devices won't work with Verizon (CDMA/LTE), I can confirm they work just fine since Verizon uses VoLTE for voice now.
As far as root being possible on US devices, it's hard to tell, if they find a loophole it could come tomorrow, but it could also come in 10 years from now, so it's probably not worth waiting when you have the international Exynos models available for rooting today.

Why barely no custom ROMs?

Supposedly our device can be bootloader unlocked right? I mean I tried going through the process on Nokia's website and it allowed me (tho I didn't go all the way cuz my device is registered and I'm afraid they'll void me the warranty as soon as they give me the unlock bootloader code) so why doesn't this device have more custom ROMs?
I sold my Mi A2 and bought this device and although its a much MUCH better device than A2, I do miss the many custom ROMs that device has available, and it baffles me because A2 and this device share most of the same specs. I know the bootloader unlocking issue WAS an issue months, if not years ago, because HMD didn't allowed it. Is there a lack of source code for the development of custom ROMs or this device doesn't interest the community what-so-ever?
There is no official way to unlock bootloader, only unoffical.
Nokia 7+ has treable support, so any a/b GSI should work.
Who would want a custom ROM on an Android One phone?
xsycox said:
Who would want a custom ROM on an Android One phone?
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This is the most retarded comment I have come across on xda. Wow
Micahvdm said:
This is the most retarded comment I have come across on xda. Wow
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First, you may have not read a lot on our beloved XDA forums/community, otherwise you would know some better behavior. So, get some manners.
Second, usually, you wish for/use a cleaned and better responsive custom ROM to get away from bloated **** ROMs installed by phone manufacturers, but with an Android One device you do not have to. At least, I hear that is why loads of people use/buy them (including me). Unlocking the boot loader and installing Magisk is nice, but what else do you need then?
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First, you may have not read a lot on our beloved XDA forums/community, otherwise you would know some better behavior. So, get some manners.
Second, usually, you wish for/use a cleaned and better responsive custom ROM to get away from bloated **** ROMs installed by phone manufacturers, but with an Android One device you do not have to. At least, I hear that is why loads of people use/buy them (including me). Unlocking the boot loader and installing Magisk is nice, but what else do you need then?
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I actually prefer a more AOSP Pixel version of Android than anything else (Pixel Experience), plus Mi A2 already has a custom rom based on Android Q's beta, something this device does not have.

Please advise on unlocking bootloader on LG V20 H910

Hi all,
I have found this simple guide to unlock the bootloader on LG V20 H910 have someone tried it then installed lineage OS 17.1 after please ? :
https://www.hardreset.info/devices/lg/lg-v20-at-and-t-h910/faq/faq/lg-bootloader-unlock/
Thanks a lot for your replies.
Sofiene.Saidi said:
Hi all,
I have found this simple guide to unlock the bootloader on LG V20 H910 have someone tried it then installed lineage OS 17.1 after please ? :
https://www.hardreset.info/devices/lg/lg-v20-at-and-t-h910/faq/faq/lg-bootloader-unlock/
Thanks a lot for your replies.
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That guide is bs
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
cnjax said:
That guide is bs
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
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Can you tell me how please ? This video from 2016 confirm it too :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-71Z-C4nAA
Yes it was a BS since no bootloader mode in this device so please dirty santa is the unique way ? Please notice I am on oreo so if you have a link to a complete guide please do not hesitate
Sofiene.Saidi said:
Yes it was a BS since no bootloader mode in this device so please dirty santa is the unique way ? Please notice I am on oreo so if you have a link to a complete guide please do not hesitate
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This is not the right place to ask for help with this... Check out the "guide" section... And ask questions In " Questions & Answers" section.
I think this is best method:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/guide-root-twrp-lg-v20-using-dirtysanta-t3722278
Others use h915 kdz.
Please refrain from posting on this thread again. It will make me regret helping.
Don't forget to thank people who help you in the thread with thanks button. Specially if the guide they made helps a ton. Note this will get rid of at&t software. I think there is way too restore it still but I have not checked for a while.
this is helpful
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Is there any current way to unlock the bootloader on the LG V20 H910 with AT&T's latest firmware release? AT&T has locked diown the bootloader, and with LG no longer in the cell phone game, they aren't able to provide the OEM bootloader unlock code as well. A few people have also mentioned that the Dirty Santa no longer works on these devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
grmoro said:
Is there any current way to unlock the bootloader on the LG V20 H910 with AT&T's latest firmware release?
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At least did you try to follow the instructions available? According to this post from October-2022 it worked on H910 AT&T.
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At least did you try to follow the instructions available? According to this post from October-2022 it worked on H910 AT&T.
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Yes. I tried it and its useless. Struggling to find a bootloader unlock process that actually works for the H910.
grmoro said:
Yes. I tried it and its useless. Struggling to find a bootloader unlock process that actually works for the H910.
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You are looking for help, because you don't know how to solve it. So we as a community need a little bit of cooperation from everyone to be able to understand if it's a limitation/roadblock of the method, or if you are doing something wrong for whatever reason.
So posting: "don't work", "it's useless" and anything like that not only don't help but discouraging others who read this threads. Tell the problem/error that you encounter.
I found another user who said that he flashed dirtysanta directly and once have TWRP he worked around it the downgrade flashing necessary.
As last resort you can swap the motherboard for one that is vulnerable for the exploit.
But if you wanna some one-click "I don't wanna have trouble" solution, I'm sorry that I can't provide that.
dextructor said:
You are looking for help, because you don't know how to solve it. So we as a community need a little bit of cooperation from everyone to be able to understand if it's a limitation/roadblock of the method, or if you are doing something wrong for whatever reason.
So posting: "don't work", "it's useless" and anything like that not only don't help but discouraging others who read this threads. Tell the problem/error that you encounter.
I found another user who said that he flashed dirtysanta directly and once have TWRP he worked around it the downgrade flashing necessary.
As last resort you can swap the motherboard for one that is vulnerable for the exploit.
But if you wanna some one-click "I don't wanna have trouble" solution, I'm sorry that I can't provide that.
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I have a clients device that needs to be updated, hence the search to unlock the bootloader and then update the device. The posts I come across, even new ones seem to be reposts of others work from before LG shut down their bootloader unlocking service, so ehen you follow their steps they don't work at various steps. I've been updating devices as far back as Android 1.5 and for some devices its a struggle to update them at all. Replacing the pcb isn't an option right now as the customer won't pay for it. Hence I scour various websites and forums for solutions as other post their success/failure in doing the same on this device. Too often I find people posting about updating their devices, only to find that they either already had their bootloader unlocked before LG shutdown their service to do so, or they just don;t reply to a PM about their process, hence they're fake posts, or old posts from years prior being reposted for no valid purpose. The amount of tim I spend to update peoples devices and test custom ROMs is actually fruitless in terms of money paid, but more for me to keep devices out of the landfills whenever possible. Every time I mod a device I make and keep notes, as well as the files used, stored on one of my NAS as I know I'll be doing it again in the future, including properly and fully testing custom roms to determine if they're actually working properly, or exactly what their issue(s) is(are), and I keep finding a plethora of bugs and issues with too many custom ROMs being pumped out before proper testing. I routinely turn down some device update requests when update steps are convoluted, fractured or even requirements are no longer valid. I'll keep looking around and trying various methods as I come across them. Thx.
No problems, I feel for you because I like to keep people using devices that otherwise would be discarded without real needs.
grmoro said:
I'll keep looking around and trying various methods as I come across them. Thx.
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Did you try this other method?

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