Why barely no custom ROMs? - Nokia 7 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion

Supposedly our device can be bootloader unlocked right? I mean I tried going through the process on Nokia's website and it allowed me (tho I didn't go all the way cuz my device is registered and I'm afraid they'll void me the warranty as soon as they give me the unlock bootloader code) so why doesn't this device have more custom ROMs?
I sold my Mi A2 and bought this device and although its a much MUCH better device than A2, I do miss the many custom ROMs that device has available, and it baffles me because A2 and this device share most of the same specs. I know the bootloader unlocking issue WAS an issue months, if not years ago, because HMD didn't allowed it. Is there a lack of source code for the development of custom ROMs or this device doesn't interest the community what-so-ever?

There is no official way to unlock bootloader, only unoffical.
Nokia 7+ has treable support, so any a/b GSI should work.

Who would want a custom ROM on an Android One phone?

xsycox said:
Who would want a custom ROM on an Android One phone?
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This is the most retarded comment I have come across on xda. Wow

Micahvdm said:
This is the most retarded comment I have come across on xda. Wow
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First, you may have not read a lot on our beloved XDA forums/community, otherwise you would know some better behavior. So, get some manners.
Second, usually, you wish for/use a cleaned and better responsive custom ROM to get away from bloated **** ROMs installed by phone manufacturers, but with an Android One device you do not have to. At least, I hear that is why loads of people use/buy them (including me). Unlocking the boot loader and installing Magisk is nice, but what else do you need then?

xsycox said:
First, you may have not read a lot on our beloved XDA forums/community, otherwise you would know some better behavior. So, get some manners.
Second, usually, you wish for/use a cleaned and better responsive custom ROM to get away from bloated **** ROMs installed by phone manufacturers, but with an Android One device you do not have to. At least, I hear that is why loads of people use/buy them (including me). Unlocking the boot loader and installing Magisk is nice, but what else do you need then?
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I actually prefer a more AOSP Pixel version of Android than anything else (Pixel Experience), plus Mi A2 already has a custom rom based on Android Q's beta, something this device does not have.

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[Q] No more Custom Roms?? :S

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Tell me that this is not true. I just read an article thats says in summary that in android 4.4 because of a security feature we might be loosing the ability to flash custom Roms...This frustrates me because I am getting the Nexus 5 for this exact reason (ROMS) and why Im getting rid of my I9500 S4. Please Developers tell me what you know about this. :S
Article: http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-4-verified-boot-314636/
nabil alami said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Tell me that this is not true. I just read an article thats says in summary that in android 4.4 because of a security feature we might be loosing the ability to flash custom Roms...This frustrates me because I am getting the Nexus 5 for this exact reason (ROMS) and why Im getting rid of my I9500 S4. Please Developers tell me what you know about this. :S
Article: http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-4-verified-boot-314636/
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"However all is not lost, first there aren’t actually any devices yet shipping in this configuration so it is too early to tell how prominent this will become."
Don't worry...Yet.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
"However all is not lost, first there aren’t actually any devices yet shipping in this configuration so it is too early to tell how prominent this will become."
Don't worry...Yet.
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I seriously hope this will not happen, because it wouldn't be Android anymore :/
Manufacturers who ship devices with locked bootloaders and with dm-verity enabled will be effectively closing the door on custom firmware installations.
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Is this the case with the N5? No. You can unlock your bootloader. And whatever that other thing is, I doubt it applies to the N5...
Nope
I have not read this article. The new security features will stop you from rooting a device (using traditional methods) but any devices which can be unlocked can install custom roms and then also be rooted
Nexus devices can ALWAYS be unlocked and therefore can ALWAYS be rooted!
This is why you get a nexus device. Manufactures and especially carriers are locking down their phones to the point they're not any fun to own anymore. But nexus will always have custom roms and unlockable bootloaders

I have MF1 4.3 non ota unlocked boot loader what's next?

I'm looking to move to the latest software but non ota so I can keep root and unlock boot loader. I can't seem to find any roms.
jagri44451 said:
I'm looking to move to the latest software but non ota so I can keep root and unlock boot loader. I can't seem to find any roms.
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how did you unlock your bootloader may i ask?
I did it before the update then used one on here that didn't lock it
All that is available are AOSP ROMs or CM11. No one has been able to get the new kitkat kernel to boot with our old firmware. :crying:
At this point, I'm happy with DU weekly builds. Don't really miss Touchwiz, I do flash MOAR sometimes. However, I still things run much better on vanilla android.
sjpritch25 said:
All that is available are AOSP ROMs or CM11. No one has been able to get the new kitkat kernel to boot with our old firmware. :crying:
At this point, I'm happy with DU weekly builds. Don't really miss Touchwiz, I do flash MOAR sometimes. However, I still things run much better on vanilla android.
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While that is correct there are several decent versions of aosp and other variations. I would seriously look around for what's available but stay away from anything that says BL LOCKED or any variation of that
From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
ShapesBlue said:
While that is correct there are several decent versions of aosp and other variations. I would seriously look around for what's available but stay away from anything that says BL LOCKED or any variation of that
From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
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I've been having recurring camera reboots on my stock, rooted, BL-unlocked ROM and really want to get away from that. Does either CM or any of the crop of AOSP ROMs of 4.4 for similarly unlocked devices manage to work well w/ phone hardware (e.g., cameras work properly, mic works properly, bluetooth works properly) without being too "1337 g4m3r XT3M3!!!"? I'd like a fairly simple layout, to be honest, without a bunch of crufty, automatic extra features. Just a plain, 4.4.4 ROM that actually lets me take more than one picture before rebooting
Armando Penblade said:
I've been having recurring camera reboots on my stock, rooted, BL-unlocked ROM and really want to get away from that. Does either CM or any of the crop of AOSP ROMs of 4.4 for similarly unlocked devices manage to work well w/ phone hardware (e.g., cameras work properly, mic works properly, bluetooth works properly) without being too "1337 g4m3r XT3M3!!!"? I'd like a fairly simple layout, to be honest, without a bunch of crufty, automatic extra features. Just a plain, 4.4.4 ROM that actually lets me take more than one picture before rebooting
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Nope. I believe you have to pay $50 to jtag your device back to an unlocked bootloader. I maybe wrong, but i believe that is the only hope. For the time being, the only unlockable devices seem to be HTC.
sjpritch25 said:
Nope. I believe you have to pay $50 to jtag your device back to an unlocked bootloader. I maybe wrong, but i believe that is the only hope. For the time being, the only unlockable devices seem to be HTC.
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No, my phone's currently on the unlocked 4.3 build floating around the forums; i was wondering which of the unlocked 4.4 builds (e.g., AOSP, Cyanogenmod) was most stable, since there isn't a TW build compatible with my unlocked bootloader.
Armando Penblade said:
No, my phone's currently on the unlocked 4.3 build floating around the forums; i was wondering which of the unlocked 4.4 builds (e.g., AOSP, Cyanogenmod) was most stable, since there isn't a TW build compatible with my unlocked bootloader.
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I like the Dirty Unicorn
https://plus.google.com/107557684350196595860/posts/Hk5z6BCnX1m
Questions and Help issues belong in Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting...not Original Development
All the development sections are only for developers to post work
As for looking for the "best" or "most stable" ROMs it is strongly advised that you read the development threads yourself
Find out what bugs and fixes are offered in the thread and if that appeals to you, or has a bug YOU can live with
No one can pick your ROM for you nor should they...in the end only YOU know what it is best for YOU.
As a general tip, stay away from Nightlies if you want stability as new fixes and bugs are presented often in those.

Custom ROM's for Z3?

Hi there,
I know this May be a silly question but my iPhone 5s is getting on my last nerves and this is the only thing holding me back from ordering a Z3 today. Does anyone have any idea when the first custom roms will be out for the z3? I can't stand skinned androids (although I've never owned a Sony handset before).. I just wouldn't want to buy one and having to wait a few months for CM/PA.
Thanks for anyone who replies!
gazzaman2k said:
got my SimpleTech 256 sd card and i must say its f00king fast i can tell you that made in Japan, 10mb/s read/write speed and works flawlessly with tomtom and is even faster then my dads ipaq 3870 using 66x CF lol
only £37 from ebay might have to order another soon
no data erase yet and its on FAT16 named again to storage
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Mate what's wrong wid or iPhone by the way. One of the best phones on the market. Anyways about custom ROMs or PA/CM ROMs might come by end of Oct or Nov. No one knows but they are surely in the pipeline although I love the xperia UI which is close to stock android and the best among other OEM skins. I have come on an xperia from an iPhone. Trust me xperia is the only one phone where u would enjoy the touch sensitivity like the iPhone.
dj_richard05 said:
Mate what's wrong wid or iPhone by the way. One of the best phones on the market. Anyways about custom ROMs or PA/CM ROMs might come by end of Oct or Nov. No one knows but they are surely in the pipeline although I love the xperia UI which is close to stock android and the best among other OEM skins. I have come on an xperia from an iPhone. Trust me xperia is the only one phone where u would enjoy the touch sensitivity like the iPhone.
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I love the iphones when they are jailbreakable but for the next forseeable months I can't see an ios 8 JB being released... I love the freedom on Android and constantly find myself going back to iPhone due to the lack of a decent camera found on any Android handsets (I've owned HTC One, S5, Note 3, S4, Nexus 5)..
You can't find a decent camera on any Android phone?
And you go to an iPhone for their cameras? Rly? Hahahaha hahaha you're funny.
Why are there almost no custom roms for this phone. The Android development section has 11 posts?
Other phones have thousands. Why is that.
I was thinking to buy one of these, but this sets me off.
Is there a root , that doen´t void warranty ?
thx
nearlygod said:
Why are there almost no custom roms for this phone. The Android development section has 11 posts?
Other phones have thousands. Why is that.
I was thinking to buy one of these, but this sets me off.
Is there a root , that doen´t void warranty ?
thx
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No there is no Lock Bootloader with root atm. I would guess once that is solved there will be more custom roms.
nearlygod said:
Is there a root , that doen´t void warranty ?
thx
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buda81 said:
No there is no Lock Bootloader with root atm. I would guess once that is solved there will be more custom roms.
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Most custom roms (CM MIUM AOKP AOSP PAC) etc require an unlocked bootloader as well as root. Unlocking the boot voids warrenty, hence the disclaimer in the OP of all their ROMS.
Root with a locked bootloader will only lead to custom roms based on stock firmware. they have more customisation than stock, but not as much as true custom roms based on another kernel.
gregbradley said:
Most custom roms (CM MIUM AOKP AOSP PAC) etc require an unlocked bootloader as well as root. Unlocking the boot voids warrenty, hence the disclaimer in the OP of all their ROMS.
Root with a locked bootloader will only lead to custom roms based on stock firmware. they have more customisation than stock, but not as much as true custom roms based on another kernel.
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Ok, thanks. Still , although the warranty is lost. There is still so little activity. Why is that. I just read the news, that Sony release AOSP Versions for all phones and allows the bootloaders to be unlocked. I thought that this would be a developers dream, for CM for example.
So, whats wrong with the phone. I still dont get it.
Was considering z3 went with g3 as there seems like way more dev support for LG phone and tons of LP roms in alpha beta stage.
Whats up with sony?
No one want to root because of loss of DRM keys..
And what does that mean?
thx
I'm not sure if it's a good idea to resurrect a old thread (zombies!)
but i see there are almost no custom roms for Z3 (either stock based or AOSP or something else)
the stock based are still on Kitkat.. (1 Rom)
AOSP i see only Cyanogen but with very little development (of course a pair of roms based on CM).
The freexperia project is almost non functional.
I'm not demoting the devs / modders... just not finding the root cause of this.
The Very old Samsung S3 is still getting too much love than our new phone, that has qualcomm SOC and thus, unlimited (sort of) open source development
Something is wrong with this phone or i'm missing something?
Im waiting too..
smala said:
I'm not sure if it's a good idea to resurrect a old thread (zombies!)
but i see there are almost no custom roms for Z3 (either stock based or AOSP or something else)
the stock based are still on Kitkat.. (1 Rom)
AOSP i see only Cyanogen but with very little development (of course a pair of roms based on CM).
The freexperia project is almost non functional.
I'm not demoting the devs / modders... just not finding the root cause of this.
The Very old Samsung S3 is still getting too much love than our new phone, that has qualcomm SOC and thus, unlimited (sort of) open source development
Something is wrong with this phone or i'm missing something?
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Stock is good enough.
I know stock is great. Just wonder if a modified custom ROM could squeeze the battery further. I doubt it but u never know.
Sindroid said:
I know stock is great. Just wonder if a modified custom ROM could squeeze the battery further. I doubt it but u never know.
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It could happen, that is true, I'm sure soon Z3 will have some custom ROM's for users to play with, on it.

Custom ROM absence

In my understanding (correct me if I am wrong) sgs7 us version with SD820 have locked bootloader and anything custom is really hard to do. People need to hack phone to do anything. With International Exynos version on other hand it's not as bad. We had custom recovery on first day and I do see ROM out there but it's slimmed down version of stock.
So it is possible to install custom Roms, but why there is none available. For years I've been using cm and I would very much to start using it again.
Thank you.
russiandivxclub said:
In my understanding (correct me if I am wrong) sgs7 us version with SD820 have locked bootloader and anything custom is really hard to do. People need to hack phone to do anything. With International Exynos version on other hand it's not as bad. We had custom recovery on first day and I do see ROM out there but it's slimmed down version of stock.
So it is possible to install custom Roms, but why there is none available. For years I've been using cm and I would very much to start using it again.
Thank you.
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First of all, there are a few roms already available for the exynos variant, but they are all TW based. The reason why there are no other roms, is that the Qualcomm s7's bootloader is locked and it will stay that until samsung decides to unlock it. As for the exynos variant, the source code is not open which makes it very difficult for developers to build a rom. So before buying this phone, you should have done more research, because even if developers are able to build a cool rom like Cyanogenmod, then there is a very little change you will be able to use it as your daily driver. So this means that samsung is not developer friendly and it won't change until samsung decides otherwise.
This is the Development forum, not your own personal Q&A. Put threads in correct sections. Reported.
Lol it is q&a section buddy.
Thank you for your answer. I've gotten new Exynos Variant from work and I was thinking putting some custom ROM on it. Thank you for explaining this to me.
Cheers
russiandivxclub said:
Lol it is q&a section buddy.
Thank you for your answer. I've gotten new Exynos Variant from work and I was thinking putting some custom ROM on it. Thank you for explaining this to me.
Cheers
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enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/vr-560-tekxnesis-hybrid-s7e-urv1-00-00-t3357561

Is this phone developer friendly?

As the title
I'd say with the processor and if Asus release the source code for the Device, then yes.
Sent from my ASUS_Z008 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Probably, since it's powered by SnapDragon Processor so there is a high possibility that we may have CM support.
Looks like this phone is definitely developer friendly. Source code is already available at https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-3-Ultra-ZU680KL/HelpDesk_Download/
The bootloader is locked according to Asus support.
will this attract a lot of developers though.
Considering the phone has been out for over a month now and these forums are still practically empty, I suspect not. I hope I am wrong though.
shdwphnx said:
Looks like this phone is definitely developer friendly. Source code is already available at https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-3-Ultra-ZU680KL/HelpDesk_Download/
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Since this phone is developer friendly, have you seen twrp recovery or any custom roms like Miui, Aosp, CM developed for this phone anywhere?
I am hoping XDA will have something on this device soon. I have always been happy with this sites work for rooting phones and custom roms. I have rooted and installed custom roms on my previous phones, HTC One M8, Samsung Galaxy Tab2, and Samsung Galaxy I9100. All of which came from XDA site.
Looking forward to XDA's root and custom rom development for this phone. In the meantime, if you or anyone knows if their is any custom rom development anywhere for this phone, I would appreciate the information. I really don't want to root until I can install a custom rom with twrp recovery .img.
Thanks for the source code information.
I suspect with this phone not being sold in US or Europe, then all the hacker activity will be on Asian forums
speculatrix said:
I suspect with this phone not being sold in US or Europe, then all the hacker activity will be on Asian forums
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No any good ones that I can start Google translating? I check zentalk daily and nothing.

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