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HSDPA - How often do you hit it?

I'm just wondering, how often do you guys hit HSDPA (or have it display HSDPA in the status or H icon if ROM'd)?
I feel like my phone never hits HSDPA and is always on UMTS. I am on CM7 so I can easily see when my phone is on H and sometimes I see it hit H when it's not even downloading anything and idling. And when I do download something, it's usually always 3G. What is up with that? And I'm in North Dallas if anyone on here has the Nexus S too with the same issue.

always have it on. it never labels itself as "3G" (UMTS) in my area (new york). It depends on your area, if your area has HSDPA support then you should try updating your radio if you haven't already.

aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.

Aria807 said:
aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
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Stock Captivate doesn't have H, it appears as "3G" it is possibly he could of applied a hack that replaces 3G whether it is on UMTS or HSDPA as "H"

I have it on all the time I live in Tampa,FL
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lorijuan1024 said:
I have it on all the time I live in Tampa,FL
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I live in hernando county it's like 3 counties north of tampa. I get it all the time with the latest CM7

I'm in Washington State (not DC) and I get the H pretty regularly however my speeds never seem "HSPA"-like, they're usually max out at maybe 1MBps whereas I can usually hit 5ish on 3G. Never

Aria807 said:
aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
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Well, isn't the Captivate on AT&T and you're on TMo with an NS? You can't compare two phones on two different networks like that.
AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.

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AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
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I laughed a little bit on the inside.

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Well, isn't the Captivate on AT&T and you're on TMo with an NS? You can't compare two phones on two different networks like that.
AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
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Better in that it has the highest rate of dropped calls?

Aria807 said:
I'm just wondering, how often do you guys hit HSDPA (or have it display HSDPA in the status or H icon if ROM'd)?
I feel like my phone never hits HSDPA and is always on UMTS. I am on CM7 so I can easily see when my phone is on H and sometimes I see it hit H when it's not even downloading anything and idling. And when I do download something, it's usually always 3G. What is up with that? And I'm in North Dallas if anyone on here has the Nexus S too with the same issue.
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Im also in Dallas, was wondering what your download and upload speeds were. I was getting close to 5/mbs down last month but now i get around 3/mbs. Have you noticed a difference?

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I laughed a little bit on the inside.
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kenvan19 said:
Better in that it has the highest rate of dropped calls?
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Whatever dudes...
Point was the OP is trying to figure out why his friends modded Captivate gets an H signal on AT&T and his unmodded NS doesn't in the same location with TMobile - you can't compare two phones on two networks and derive anything meaningful about the proper functioning of one of them in regards to gettting HSPA or not.
As to the snide AT&T bashing, again, whatever... In the areas of Los Angeles, Southern California, Arizona and Nevada that I personally frequent, AT&T provides much better service. YMMV may vary, obviously. It's all about where you're at for all of the networks.
For me, if I'm going someplace and I know I HAVE TO have a signal to make a call, you can bet I'm taking my AT&T phone with me because I am certain to find more dead zones with TMo than I do on AT&T. AT&T may drop calls, but at least it can make them in places TMo can't, like inside a building.
But you didn't really want to turn this into a back and forth on AT&T vs TMo did you?

Get it all the time .. ...when its turned on
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Whatever dudes...
Point was the OP is trying to figure out why his friends modded Captivate gets an H signal on AT&T and his unmodded NS doesn't in the same location with TMobile - you can't compare two phones on two networks and derive anything meaningful about the proper functioning of one of them in regards to gettting HSPA or not.
As to the snide AT&T bashing, again, whatever... In the areas of Los Angeles, Southern California, Arizona and Nevada that I personally frequent, AT&T provides much better service. YMMV may vary, obviously. It's all about where you're at for all of the networks.
For me, if I'm going someplace and I know I HAVE TO have a signal to make a call, you can bet I'm taking my AT&T phone with me because I am certain to find more dead zones with TMo than I do on AT&T. AT&T may drop calls, but at least it can make them in places TMo can't, like inside a building.
But you didn't really want to turn this into a back and forth on AT&T vs TMo did you?
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keyword modded. the OP didn't specify what ROM the person was using because I know for the SGS based phones there is a mod available that replaces the 3G icon (regardless of UMTS or HSDPA) to 4G or H depending on the mod.
its easy to fake something on Android, its just as easy as manipulating your Android version or making 2.2.X looking like Gingerbread.
And hell.. look on Engadget on the Inspire 4G review. This supposedly AT&T 4G phone's speeds compared to T-Mobile's HSDPA (3.5G) are just a joke.
Especially when HSUPA is disabled on the Inspire 4G. AT&T just doesn't respect the Android OS, all they simply do is cripple the phone.
- Disabling "unknown source" apps from being installed. Yeah, yeah.. we can hack it and enable it again. But for the average user, it isn't happening.
- Now.. HSUPA
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/
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This is supposedly AT&T's "4G" Network.
http://www.att.com/network/?wtSlotClick=1-004P16!CIHPM01V1-1-1&rel=nofollow#fbid=_Fse7JSTH-U
Not all 4G is created equal. AT&T is the only carrier that will offer two layers of network technology that deliver 4G speeds: HSPA+ and LTE. Our HSPA+ network, combined with enhanced backhaul, is capable of speeds up to 4x faster than AT&T's already fast mobile broadband speeds. And we'll be evolving to even higher speeds with the rollout of our LTE network.
Why does that matter? You'll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
-From AT&T's 4G page
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vs. Nexus S' 3.5G (HSDPA)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/6
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Why does that matter? You'll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
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zephiK said:
keyword modded. the OP didn't specify what ROM the person was using because I know for the SGS based phones there is a mod available that replaces the 3G icon (regardless of UMTS or HSDPA) to 4G or H depending on the mod.
its easy to fake something on Android, its just as easy as manipulating your Android version or making 2.2.X looking like Gingerbread.
And hell.. look on Engadget on the Inspire 4G review. This supposedly AT&T 4G phone's speeds compared to T-Mobile's HSDPA (3.5G) are just a joke.
Especially when HSUPA is disabled on the Inspire 4G. AT&T just doesn't respect the Android OS, all they simply do is cripple the phone.
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This is supposedly AT&T's "4G" Network.
vs. Nexus S' 3.5G (HSDPA)
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Huh?
What does the Inspire have to do with this? What does AT&T's "4G" network have to do with it? We're talking about the current HSPA network because that's all either the Captivate or Nexus S which were being compared support. I'm also confused about why you posted a comparison of two different TMobile phones, one a "4G" phone and the other not a "4g" phone and their speedtest results.
The comment I responded to said his Nexus S doesn't get HSPA in Dallas when his friend's Captivate does. It's very plausible to me that his friend's getting HSPA service and he's not. In my experience, with my AT&T Galaxy S phone sitting next to my TMo Nexus S, the AT&T phone will routinely be on 5 bars of voice signal and have a full speed (4Mb/s) data connection available to me while the Nexus S on TMo is 0 bars of voice and EDGE data if anything at all. Even when on HSPA connection, the Nexus S can't pull more than 3Mb/s around here, so AT&T beats them in speed as well as coverage. I have active SIMS in both phones and often have them side by side. Based on my experience it seems perfectly reasonable to believe that other areas are the same.
The Galaxy S phones support HSPA up to 7.2mb/s...same as the Nexus S. Whatever a modded phone displays for that connection is irrelevant to what I said, which was, in my opinion, that AT&T has a better network. Here in Los Angeles, it covers more square miles than TMo, it penetrates buildings with full bars and 3G/HSPA speeds when TMo can't even push GSM voice or EDGE data into the same building and it doesn't drop calls any more frequently than TMo does.
Which brings me back to my original point to the author of that comment: I'm not sure what he thinks comparing the signal indicator on his NS to his friend's Captivate is actually revealing. He's got two different phones on two different networks and both are obviously modded in some manner; the only clear conclusion to me is that unless he's screwed up his NS somehow, his friend's got better reception because it's a better network in their area. I suspect this is commonplace across the major metros around the country.

Galaxy S 4g with AT&T 1900 3G Band?

Hey all,
I know the Vibrant has AT&T's 1900 3g band.
Can anyone confirm if the Galaxy S 4G also have the same AT&T 1900 3g band?
What sucks is that these bands are typically not listed in the specs but it's always a pleasant surprise when a t-mo phone has the AT&T 1900 band.
Thanks.
I'm thinking of upgrading to the Galaxy S 4g from the Vibrant but I don't want to give up the 1900 band when I swap to an AT&T sim.
Thanks in advance for the info

Yes it will but u can check it out here
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-4G_id5138

Thanks for the reply but according to phonearena, the Galaxy S 4g only covers GSM 1900. Not UMTS 1900.
The Vibrant actually has UMTS 1900 hence Unlocked Vibrants can be used on AT&T's 3G network
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Vibrant_id4747
However, I know phonearena isn't always accurate when it comes to specs/bands so that's why I'm asking all you Galaxy S 4g owners
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Yes it will but u can check it out here
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-4G_id5138
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joel32137 said:
Thanks for the reply but according to phonearena, the Galaxy S 4g only covers GSM 1900. Not UMTS 1900.
The Vibrant actually has UMTS 1900 hence Unlocked Vibrants can be used on AT&T's 3G network
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Vibrant_id4747
However, I know phonearena isn't always accurate when it comes to specs/bands so that's why I'm asking all you Galaxy S 4g owners
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the s4g doesnt have the full 3g band hence why it goes from hsdpa to edge and not switch to 3g as it actually lacks the band for it .....

RaverX3X said:
the s4g doesnt have the full 3g band hence why it goes from hsdpa to edge and not switch to 3g as it actually lacks the band for it .....
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Does that mean Tmobile phones will work on a att
4g?

Compxpert said:
Does that mean Tmobile phones will work on a att
4g?
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should worse case is u get edge at best

Joel, what did you end up doing?
Can the SGS 4G use 4G on AT&Ts network?

I was at one point able to get Straight Talk 3G working on the 1900 band when I used to live in TX. This was using ATT's network so it is definitely possible.
However a word of caution: from my experience in some areas ATT uses 850 for 3G, which the SGS4g does not support (edge only).

Got my sgs 4g unlocked and tested on at&t sim card ,3g worked with no problem (chicago area)
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The unlocked version of this phone does include umts 1900 band so it can pickup 3g signal on that frequency.
On the back of the phone it says it clearly.
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the tmobile version also
Bought from tmobile with no mention of ATT BANDS in the specs. Rooted, unlocked and was able to pick up 3g in Dallas,Tx on Att.

Thanks all, I'm glad to hear that T-mo's Galaxy S 4g works with AT&T's 1900 3g band.
I know this may be asking much but for all who's running the phone on AT&T's 3G 1900 band (and if you have time), do you mind doing a speed test on AT&T and posting your results?
Thanks,

joel32137 said:
Thanks all, I'm glad to hear that T-mo's Galaxy S 4g works with AT&T's 1900 3g band.
I know this may be asking much but for all who's running the phone on AT&T's 3G 1900 band (and if you have time), do you mind doing a speed test on AT&T and posting your results?
Thanks,
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I have unlocked mine and had 3g on at&t for a while (brothers at&t sim) got regular 3G speeds as well. Its crazy huh?
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why on earth would u do this less theres no t/simple mobile I had att on my 3g vibrant for a while yeah it said it got 3g but it SUCKS espacially indoors thats why att used the other frequency to get indoor "penetration"

Dreamlogix said:
why on earth would u do this less theres no t/simple mobile I had att on my 3g vibrant for a while yeah it said it got 3g but it SUCKS espacially indoors thats why att used the other frequency to get indoor "penetration"
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Heh, you said penetration.
Okay kidding aside
Yes the SGS4g will run on ATT's 3g band. You won't have 4g though.
I actually used mine on ATT for almost 2 weeks lol

If a carrier support 4G on 1900mhz band would I get 4G without problems??

tehgyb said:
Heh, you said penetration.
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That's what she said!

I'm picking HSPA now
Since this morning, I've been picking up HSPA from AT&T on my SGS4G. Until today it always displayed the 3G icon and the network info said UMTS.
Today I started picking up HSPA. Although crappy speeds, it's HSPA
I have no idea what happened overnight but the network has changed.
By the way, I'm in Wilmington, DE

andersensam said:
Since this morning, I've been picking up HSPA from AT&T on my SGS4G. Until today it always displayed the 3G icon and the network info said UMTS.
Today I started picking up HSPA. Although crappy speeds, it's HSPA
I have no idea what happened overnight but the network has changed.
By the way, I'm in Wilmington, DE
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what rom is that? (mods etc) looks good

mikeflash said:
what rom is that? (mods etc) looks good
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Es el MIUI, lo consegui en este foro. Me gusta, pero tiene sus problemas

[Q] 4g signal?

Is there a way for us infusers to get 4g signal?

LTE? No the hardware just isnt there
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What do you mean?
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wawaweewa said:
Is there a way for us infusers to get 4g signal?
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Go into a 4g area
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Bec at&t offers 4g network on infuse but is there any other way to get it?

You have to be in a fauxG area. Or see if the H+, if so you do have the 4g signal
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colbynmeghan said:
You have to be in a fauxG area. Or see if the H+, if so you do have the 4g signal
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I am having the h+ and 3g here in our place when data mode

wawaweewa said:
I am having the h+ and 3g here in our place when data mode
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There you go, you have the 4g. Sometimes it might not seem like it but you do.
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wawaweewa said:
I am having the h+ and 3g here in our place when data mode
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Our 4G is actually 3G + HSPA
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I call it 3.5g. Or a BS way the sales people were telling people At&t had 4g back in July 2011. They wouldn't call it 4g 'lte' so I guess it wasn't false advertising.
sorry /rant.
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the h+ signal is a lie
download the app sensorly from the market and you'll see what your real signal is

albee320 said:
the h+ signal is a lie
download the app sensorly from the market and you'll see what your real signal is
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I dl'd it now the h is 3.5 and 3g is 3g and no 4g so no way getting it?
here is my SS just now
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i also have an infuse 4g and i get 4g on a normal phone like my doaghters phones is a galaxy and she gets 4g but in this infuse i dont and i am on a 4g area all cels here get 4g with tmobile i wonder if thers a way to get the 4g i have seen some post on some custom rom with 4g but i wonder if is becase my infuse is an unlock phone ...

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i also have an infuse 4g and i get 4g on a normal phone like my doaghters phones is a galaxy and she gets 4g but in this infuse i dont and i am on a 4g area all cels here get 4g with tmobile i wonder if thers a way to get the 4g i have seen some post on some custom rom with 4g but i wonder if is becase my infuse is an unlock phone ...
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On what service?
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OK guys
grps is basically 1g edge is 2g umts is 3g umts with hspa or hsdpa (high speed package assist/high speed downlink package assist) has been advertised as 3g+ and 3.5g on carriers in some countries, att never made a distinction between if a phone was hspa, hsdpa, or 3g only, so they could advertise the fastest 3g network instead of confusing things with 3.5g and thus letting you know that not all 3g phones could get 3.5g speeds because they didn't fully support all the hspa modes (the iPhone 3g only supported 3.6mbps hsdpa not 7.2mbps hspa like they want you to believe the 3g network was capable of). its easy to have the fastest 3g if only a few high end devices could run at those speeds so the network never gets bogged down.
then T-Mobile messed everything up by getting hspa+ and calling it 4g. so att copied them and called their umts with hspa+ phones 4g even though it works off a umts signal. the older 4g commercials for the infuse and atrix say "4g speeds from hspa+ and 21mbps enhanced backhaul" or something to that effect at the bottom of the screen.
the infuse is not technically a 4g device and the h+ icon is possibly inaccurate in the first place. if you want to complain then blame T-Mobile. or this standard we know as Americans. why they can't just tell you its umts w/hspa+ is beyond me. I guess they need a system for comparison to cdma and iden devices so the us carriers can have there big pissing contest.
also T-Mobile has different 3g bands and the infuse doesn't support it, att phones will run on edge only when unlocked for T-Mobile and their subsidiaries. it will work on most other north American and south american GSM networks though as they mostly use the same bands as att. Europe is different using 900 MHz for talk instead of 850 but you should be able to roam on 2100mhz and Asia seems to be split between 850 and 900. ya gotta do research before you use a GSM phone in another region and if you want to use T-Mobile get a T-Mobile phone!

Weak LTE signal

I have the Google Nexus 5 and in the Dallas, TX area I'm seeing VERY weak LTE signals. Inside buildings, connectivity is completely cut off (no bars). Outside is better, but I can literally wrap both my hands and cover my phone and it kills the signal completely.
I tried various APN changes I found on Google and XDA but nothing helps. Anyone having this problem? I swapped to AT&T prepaid in the meantime and signals are absolutely fantastic. However I have problems with T-mobile connectivity on this phone no matter where I go in the metroplex.

I'll just guess and say T-Mobile suck in your area

Android.Addiction said:
I have the Google Nexus 5 and in the Dallas, TX area I'm seeing VERY weak LTE signals. Inside buildings, connectivity is completely cut off (no bars). Outside is better, but I can literally wrap both my hands and cover my phone and it kills the signal completely.
I tried various APN changes I found on Google and XDA but nothing helps. Anyone having this problem? I swapped to AT&T prepaid in the meantime and signals are absolutely fantastic. However I have problems with T-mobile connectivity on this phone no matter where I go in the metroplex.
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Download an app on the google play store called Signal Check and report to me your DBM in LTE
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How old is your T-Mobile LTE market for Maui LTE just lit up 3 weeks ago and there still tweaking it so far they replaced only 2 panels on their sites I assume testing. Because I get five bars of hspa+ but LTE is one bar and hspa is serving from the same cell site as LTE
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Download an app on the google play store called Signal Check and report to me your DBM in LTE
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How old is your T-Mobile LTE market for Maui LTE just lit up 3 weeks ago and there still tweaking it so far they replaced only 2 panels on their sites I assume testing. Because I get five bars of hspa+ but LTE is one bar and hspa is serving from the same cell site as LTE
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You do have a weaker LTE signal, try going settings, more, mobile networks, preferred network type
select 3G, report the dbm

Here's mine
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Here's mine
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excellent results!

I did as you asked and it would rapidly swap between three different connection modes. I have attached corresponding screenshots.
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Android.Addiction said:
I have the Google Nexus 5 and in the Dallas, TX area I'm seeing VERY weak LTE signals. Inside buildings, connectivity is completely cut off (no bars). Outside is better, but I can literally wrap both my hands and cover my phone and it kills the signal completely.
I tried various APN changes I found on Google and XDA but nothing helps. Anyone having this problem? I swapped to AT&T prepaid in the meantime and signals are absolutely fantastic. However I have problems with T-mobile connectivity on this phone no matter where I go in the metroplex.
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Very weak in Frisco area, just use 3G instead of LTE, if you don't really need the speed.

I have the same issue, LTE is bad, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?
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I have the same issue, LTE has low signal, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?

mr.r9 said:
I have the same issue, LTE is bad, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?
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I have the same issue, LTE has low signal, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?
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its the Modem the modem wants you to have network that has the best signal, it doesn't care about your data speed. i have a 1 bar LTE connection in my home often times it switches to edge/2g to save battery since its got a higher signal strength
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I did as you asked and it would rapidly swap between three different connection modes. I have attached corresponding screenshots.
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They're still tweaking the LTE
it seems as the LTE signal is coming from a sector where you picked up LTE
the other cells sites where you picked up W-CDMA and HSDPA has not been upgraded to LTE just yet
Compare your speeds with 3G and LTE often times they're similar so i just leave it on 3G for now for the better signal

markdapimp said:
its the Modem the modem wants you to have network that has the best signal, it doesn't care about your data speed. i have a 1 bar LTE connection in my home often times it switches to edge/2g to save battery since its got a higher signal strength
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They're still tweaking the LTE
it seems as the LTE signal is coming from a sector where you picked up LTE
the other cells sites where you picked up W-CDMA and HSDPA has not been upgraded to LTE just yet
Compare your speeds with 3G and LTE often times they're similar so i just leave it on 3G for now for the better signal
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I've been using AT&T for a while now because of this issue and their LTE signals are really really strong. Not sure why I should swap back to T-Mobile. Pricing about the same too.

Android.Addiction said:
I've been using AT&T for a while now because of this issue and their LTE signals are really really strong. Not sure why I should swap back to T-Mobile. Pricing about the same too.
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AT&T has a lower end spectrum witch allows for building penetration and more propagation across land
Where as T-Mobile has 2100Mhz for LTE which is similar to WiFI frequency wise
Sprint is starting sprint 'Spark' which is 2500Mhz *Clearwire spectrum* which is horrible for indoor penetration thats why they have 800Mhz LTE
and T-Mobile has that 700Mhz lte they bought from Verizon (Perhaps we will see compatibility in nexus 6?)
Anyways if you don't go overseas alot where Data is free with T-Mobile might aswell go get AT&T but if you like Unlimited Data and T-Mobile's offering for it look into AIO-Wireless which uses AT&T's Network and provides High speed access for 2.5GB or so and throttled after that but its still unlimited data

Nice info but I don't see what good t-mobile is if I can't even enable LTE
Honestly I prefer T-Mobile but it's just not as good coverage.
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Android.Addiction said:
Nice info but I don't see what good t-mobile is if I can't even enable LTE
Honestly I prefer T-Mobile but it's just not as good coverage.
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i would wait for a couple months let them settle it down, else if you can call into T-Mobile and they can adjust the downtilt of the LTE panels on the cell tower which sends more of the signal downwards where as before it was horizontal, giving you a better signal or else if they're still in the testing phase and are waiting for more backhaul to improve the speeds
If you call in though dont tell them about the downtilt stuff they have no idea what is that just say you have like 1 Bar LTE and like 3 bars HSPA+, personally i like T-Mobile and i support them in everyway to keep them in business (like right now) because i love the concept of Uncarrier and that we the people should pay for the network and not the device and network After the Contract.
Think of AT&T and Verizon like this the Signal is consistent but the speed is no more faster than a clogged toilet flushing
T-Mobile may have less bars but the speed is like 20 times faster

I found these results surprising!
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Android.Addiction said:
I found these results surprising!
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Yeah LTE has the lower signal quality so its expected but NICE
we never pass that 11Mbps mark in hawaii, we have like no bandwidth here in all carriers

markdapimp said:
Yeah LTE has the lower signal quality so its expected but NICE
we never pass that 11Mbps mark in hawaii, we have like no bandwidth here in all carriers
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Thanks a bunch for all of your help & encouragement. I'm gonna stay with T-Mobile because I like the idea of supporting them for other reasons (I do the same for Netflix, even though I don't find their movie selections that compelling).
With 3G enabled things are pretty solid, although I didn't compare to AT&T LTE speeds. What would be nice is if the device could be configured to swap to LTE only for strong signals, versus having to constantly flip the preferred network manually between 3G/LTE.

Android.Addiction said:
Thanks a bunch for all of your help & encouragement. I'm gonna stay with T-Mobile because I like the idea of supporting them for other reasons (I do the same for Netflix, even though I don't find their movie selections that compelling).
With 3G enabled things are pretty solid, although I didn't compare to AT&T LTE speeds. What would be nice is if the device could be configured to swap to LTE only for strong signals, versus having to constantly flip the preferred network manually between 3G/LTE.
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wait a couple weeks the devs may be able to force LTE like how Verizon on the Galaxy s3 forces LTE no matter what even theres a strong 3G signal and a 1 bar LTE signal.
also one thing to note is H is HSPA/HSPA+
the 3G you see is Refarmed 1900Mhz PCS
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update (T-Mobiles Attempt to remove edge/2G in certain places and convert edge to 3G/HSPA) that (850 MHz and 1900 MHz) would be really good indoors

markdapimp said:
its the Modem the modem wants you to have network that has the best signal, it doesn't care about your data speed. i have a 1 bar LTE connection in my home often times it switches to edge/2g to save battery since its got a higher signal strength
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I know why it switches, but my question is why does it the network turn off for 5-10 seconds when switching from LTE to 3G/2G?
My speeds with LTE are excellent, I didn't expect it to be this good (Qatar-Ooredoo [formally Qtel])
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[Q] Nexus 5 LTE in India

Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:

Hello any one there!
Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

akjha96 said:
Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not only depend upon the processor, there is much more than that.

read the post
varuntis1993 said:
D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not depend upon the processor.
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Check out the link and post no. which i have give in my post and then only reply PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I meant to say it does not only depend upon the SOC, there is much more than that.
My bad I forgot to check out post no. 39...will have to see now

The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.

rootSU said:
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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I think iphone 5s and 5c also have the same receiver and they recently got a carrier update in India and now they do support 4g in India....I think the hardware supports it but you could tell us more about it?

The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
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Little doublt still
rootSU said:
The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
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Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.

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rootSU said:
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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Need MORE EXPLATION ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

akjha96 said:
Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:
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Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
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akjha96 said:
Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.
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Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
So either the band is already there or it is not. There is no "software update" that can "unlock" additional bands. The radio hardware must be "reconfigured" completely. All capable bands are already available on tehe Nexus. To "add" a band would mean a band needs replacing which as yet, is not possible.
As I said earlier, I am not sure if the radio is physically configured or firmware managed but it is done at the factory. Whether they can do something in future (if it is the latter) remains to be seen but certainly at the moment, there is nothing that can be done.
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Mr hOaX said:
Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
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can you send me some pics depicting the said situation please..:cyclops:

Late reply but>>>>>>>>
rootSU said:
Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
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BUT N5 D821 has one free band
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20

Ok great!
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Delhi NCR got FDD-LTE(Band 3) + TDD-LTE(Band 40) from Airtel, it works fine on my Nexus 5. I was in a low signal region and tested the speeds on the Nexus 5(supports only band 3) and Redmi Note 4g (supports both band 3 and band 40)
The results were:
N5: 5.6mbps/1.84mbps 37ms ping
Redmi Note 4g: 5.75mbps/1.05mbps 55ms ping
The speeds are really low for LTE but the signal strength was at best -107dBm. I will probably test once again when I get a good signal.
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New test with signal strength around -100dBm

Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra?
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?

tejasjuthani said:
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?
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Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds, if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.

Tagtag123 said:
Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.
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Thanks for your quick response. I have already taken the 4g sim however the airtel gallery folks said that 4g LTE is not compatible with Nexus 5. Even the device 4g combability test on airtel's website shows an exclamation mark.
I am by no means getting LTE, even though in settings LTE mode is enabled. Have downloaded LTE Discovery app too, but no luck.
Any other thing I am missing out on? Are other users in Maharashtra also facing a similar issue?

Nexus 5 doesnt support band 40 (tdd-lte), band used by airtel for LTE in many circles. So that is why it isn't listed online on airtel's checklist. Delhi-NCR got both TDD-LTE and FDD-LTE, so nexus 5 works here.
Anyway, right now its not worth it. Very expensive and totally not worth it. Other telcos will use FDD-LTE, which is supported by Nexus 5. So, by that time the rates and QoS will be better and the nexus 5 will be supported.