Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:
Hello any one there!
Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not only depend upon the processor, there is much more than that.
read the post
varuntis1993 said:
D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not depend upon the processor.
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Check out the link and post no. which i have give in my post and then only reply PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I meant to say it does not only depend upon the SOC, there is much more than that.
My bad I forgot to check out post no. 39...will have to see now
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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I think iphone 5s and 5c also have the same receiver and they recently got a carrier update in India and now they do support 4g in India....I think the hardware supports it but you could tell us more about it?
The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
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rootSU said:
The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
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Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.
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rootSU said:
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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Need MORE EXPLATION ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
akjha96 said:
Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:
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Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
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Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.
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Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
So either the band is already there or it is not. There is no "software update" that can "unlock" additional bands. The radio hardware must be "reconfigured" completely. All capable bands are already available on tehe Nexus. To "add" a band would mean a band needs replacing which as yet, is not possible.
As I said earlier, I am not sure if the radio is physically configured or firmware managed but it is done at the factory. Whether they can do something in future (if it is the latter) remains to be seen but certainly at the moment, there is nothing that can be done.
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Mr hOaX said:
Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
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can you send me some pics depicting the said situation please..:cyclops:
Late reply but>>>>>>>>
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Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
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BUT N5 D821 has one free band
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Ok great!
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Delhi NCR got FDD-LTE(Band 3) + TDD-LTE(Band 40) from Airtel, it works fine on my Nexus 5. I was in a low signal region and tested the speeds on the Nexus 5(supports only band 3) and Redmi Note 4g (supports both band 3 and band 40)
The results were:
N5: 5.6mbps/1.84mbps 37ms ping
Redmi Note 4g: 5.75mbps/1.05mbps 55ms ping
The speeds are really low for LTE but the signal strength was at best -107dBm. I will probably test once again when I get a good signal.
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Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra?
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?
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Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?
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Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds, if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.
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Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.
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Thanks for your quick response. I have already taken the 4g sim however the airtel gallery folks said that 4g LTE is not compatible with Nexus 5. Even the device 4g combability test on airtel's website shows an exclamation mark.
I am by no means getting LTE, even though in settings LTE mode is enabled. Have downloaded LTE Discovery app too, but no luck.
Any other thing I am missing out on? Are other users in Maharashtra also facing a similar issue?
Nexus 5 doesnt support band 40 (tdd-lte), band used by airtel for LTE in many circles. So that is why it isn't listed online on airtel's checklist. Delhi-NCR got both TDD-LTE and FDD-LTE, so nexus 5 works here.
Anyway, right now its not worth it. Very expensive and totally not worth it. Other telcos will use FDD-LTE, which is supported by Nexus 5. So, by that time the rates and QoS will be better and the nexus 5 will be supported.
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I bought the american version of the Nexus 5 even though I am on the middle east (for price reasons). Since the snapdragon 800 chip support all LTE bands techniclly speaking, could I activate certain ones to work for me through firmware or modem modification?
Not at the moment,
There are people who believe that it will never be possible due to RF hardware differences between EU and US models.
There are people who believe that a modem firmware hack might unlock some LTE bands in the future.
Well I was hoping for a onesided, positive reply, but I guess you are right, we will wait and see.
What was the case on other Snapdragon 800 phones, were they able to activate it?
I'm only aware of few cases where some RF Bands could be activated/deactivated via an engineering menu.
I have never heard of a case when someone successfully hacked modem firmware and added new RF Bands.
Does anybody succeed trying this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269 ?
Should work for any Qualcomm based device like Nexus 5.
Thanks for any feedback.
michelD said:
Does anybody succeed trying this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269 ?
Should work for any Qualcomm based device like Nexus 5.
Thanks for any feedback.
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No the program is banned. Besides we already have most the LTE bands on 2 versions. If they could fit them all on they would have done. Maximum 7 LTE bands
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What do you mean by "the program is banned"??
Yes indeed there are 2 versions, but I purched my nexus 5 when I was in US and I am now in Europe!
So you can easily understand my interest for this topic...
michelD said:
What do you mean by "the program is banned"??
Yes indeed there are 2 versions, but I purched my nexus 5 when I was in US and I am now in Europe!
So you can easily understand my interest for this topic...
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1) never said there wasn't reason for your interest
2) it isn't possible to add European bands to US version. If it was, there would be no need for US version. Limitation on nexus 5 is physical. Maximum 7 bands.
3) the link you provided is for a program that is banned on XDA. You van tell that by reading the thread
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Add 3G and LTE bands to your phone
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fffft said:
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why there might be a "physical" limitation of 7 bands on the Nexus 5? That would be an unusual finding in a recent handset. It's certainly not the case with most current phones e.g. I've enabled dozens of additional bands on my Samsung S5 and others have done the same on various HTC, Sony, LG, etc phones.
If you have any details or a source, that would be appreciated.
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Its a limitation of the WTR1605L ref receiver. 7 bands. Actually this was the first (making the msm8974 the first) to be able to do 7. 5 was the previous Max, hence why there used to be a million versions of Samsung galaxy devices
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25/2
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Thank you for the informative reply. You are right of course and I see now where the confusion is arising as well. As you said, the previous max was five bands as in a pentaband phone. And the WTR1605L now supports 7 bands as in a heptband phone. Three bands below 1 Ghz, three bands above and one band at 2.5 Ghz. Bands meaning spectrum frequency segments e.g. 700/800/900/1700/1800/2100/2600 Mhz.
The confusion and this is ironic as well is that 3GPP, the organization who defines the GSM standard also uses the term band to refer to something confusingly different i.e. intra-band segments. And that usage while seemingly ill advised has become ubiquitous. So a band without a context can refer to the contigous 800 Mhz segement. Or half a dozen subsets of it, each of those subsets also being an officially designated 3GPP "band" as well.
When you look at the specs for a given phone, the term bands is often used in the latter sense. For example, the S5 uses the same WTR1605L chip and is obstensibly a 7 band phone as well. And it is indeed limited to 7 "major" bands for lack of a better description. But the specs appear to show the S5 as supporting 16 "bands" i.e. eight LTE "bands", four 3G "bands" and four 2G "bands". And our NV edits can enable dozens more "bands" in the way that carriers refer to them.
Anyway, suffice it to say that rootSU is absolutely correct that the hardware is limited to seven "bands". And at the same time, we can still add dozens of discrete "bands" in the sense that the carriers use the term. Yeah it is confusing.
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Yes you can see on the box of the D820, what would appear to be 9 bands, but they all fall within the 7
However, since we have no solid documentation, we cannot still add dozens or even 1 carrier used-term. Its closed source.
Edit > but there is no real benefit to having a d820 and a d821 if they could get everything on the same die.
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[Q] How to unlock LTE bands，so my Nexus 5 can be used in China Mobile's 4G TD-LTE
Help, I'm using Nexus 5 Field Test Mode to unlock BAND 41 can not enable China Mobile 4G TD-LTE, 3G TD-SCDMA! How to unlock LTE bands, so my Nexus 5 can be used in China Mobile's 4G TD-LTE, 3G TD-SCDMA! That gives tutorials and address!
求助，我使用Nexus 5 Field Test Mode 解开BAND 41无法启用中国移动4G TD-LTE，3G TD-SCDMA！如何才能解开LTE频段，让我的Nexus 5可以在使用中国移动的4G TD-LTE，3G TD-SCDMA！知道的给出教程和地址！
doraemon616 said:
Help, I'm using Nexus 5 Field Test Mode to unlock BAND 41 can not enable China Mobile 4G TD-LTE, 3G TD-SCDMA! How to unlock LTE bands, so my Nexus 5 can be used in China Mobile's 4G TD-LTE, 3G TD-SCDMA! That gives tutorials and address!
求助，我使用Nexus 5 Field Test Mode 解开BAND 41无法启用中国移动4G TD-LTE，3G TD-SCDMA！如何才能解开LTE频段，让我的Nexus 5可以在使用中国移动的4G TD-LTE，3G TD-SCDMA！知道的给出教程和地址！
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There is no unlocking that is need to be done
as the Device is already Unlocked at the LTE band 41
However there are two versions of the Nexus 5 the North American and one for the rest of the world
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Rest of World:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Please make sure you do indeed have the North American version d280 and not the d281
if you do have the North American version try adding/checking your mobile operators APN settings if that does not work i suggest try to get a new Sim card
My phone is the U.S. version of LG-D820, I have replaced the China Mobile 4G SIM card, also opened a 4G package, but still only use 2G networks
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LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
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Something wrong there because the 8974 radio wtr1605L can only manage 7 LTE frequencies
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Something wrong there because the 8974 radio wtr1605L can only manage 7 LTE frequencies
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Taken that straight from google http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
click tech specs
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Taken that straight from google http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
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In which case, either
1) Google are wrong - The WRT1605L packaged within the 8974 for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 is capable of only 7 LTE bands. This is teh first chip that can do this.
2) Google are not being clear with their specs and perhaps omitting that a few carrier released versions are programmed differently.
Edit > Here is a D820 box, with 7 LTE bands listed on it:
https://05526033536925262031.google...H7cDB2vVjUU4ggfe-2h7GKBV2WwqqStrrrKzoMttwm-eA
China Unicom
Go to China Unicom... China Mobile sucks...
N5 North America use with China Mobile 4g
Just picked up a China Mobile 4g card and like the user above am only able to use the edge service. They told me that I had to buy a phone form them to use the 4G service. Will be going back with somebody who speaks better Chinese eventually though.
doraemon616 said:
Help, I'm using Nexus 5 Field Test Mode to unlock BAND 41 can not enable China Mobile 4G TD-LTE, 3G TD-SCDMA! How to unlock LTE bands, so my Nexus 5 can be used in China Mobile's 4G TD-LTE, 3G TD-SCDMA! That gives tutorials and address!
求助，我使用Nexus 5 Field Test Mode 解开BAND 41无法启用中国移动4G TD-LTE，3G TD-SCDMA！如何才能解开LTE频段，让我的Nexus 5可以在使用中国移动的4G TD-LTE，3G TD-SCDMA！知道的给出教程和地址！
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Just go to Chinese forums of Nexus 5, there are plenty of discussion of it.
Due to
1. China Mobile have 3 bands (39/40/41, 41 is super set of 38) been allocated, and Nexus 5 supports only band 41, for LTE-TDD.
So, first of all, you MUST MAKE SURE China Mobile is USING band 41 to provide LTE-TDD where you have your tests.
2. Nexus 5 does not support TD-SCDMA, and it seems do not support FR-CSFB. (or China Mobile did not support it yet.)
So, N5 can not go to LTE automatically through the route: 2G (GSM) -> 3G (TDSCDMA) -> 4G(LTE-TDD).
You MUST using *#*#4636#*#*, select "LTE Only" to force it connect to LTE, and then using "LTE/GSM auto (PRL)" to enable it using CSFB for incoming/outgoing voice service.
Ensure you have 4G USIM card and enabled 4G service using SMS.
4G in mainland China
I live in China and am in the market for a new phone. My HTC Desire HD is getting rather cranky in its old age.
Investigating 4G here, I've found that the mainland uses its own band, which no other country uses. Everything I've read about it says that even if you buy a phone in Hong Kong, its 4G won't work here. Now, I have seen some phones advertised on HK websites that say they can use both HK and mainland 4G, but I haven't been able to confirm that on any manufacturer sites. Not to mention, they were substantially more expensive.
Luckily there are some Chinese brands that are really improving their wares. The Huawei Ascend Mate 7 is one, and the XiaoMi Mi4 is another. I'm still wary of buying one though, mostly because, while it will have English, everything on it will be set up for Chinese consumers.
I'll keep looking into it because ideally, I'd really like to have a Nexus 6, or Droid Turbo with 4G that works here.
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I live in China and am in the market for a new phone. My HTC Desire HD is getting rather cranky in its old age.
Investigating 4G here, I've found that the mainland uses its own band, which no other country uses. Everything I've read about it says that even if you buy a phone in Hong Kong, its 4G won't work here. Now, I have seen some phones advertised on HK websites that say they can use both HK and mainland 4G, but I haven't been able to confirm that on any manufacturer sites. Not to mention, they were substantially more expensive.
Luckily there are some Chinese brands that are really improving their wares. The Huawei Ascend Mate 7 is one, and the XiaoMi Mi4 is another. I'm still wary of buying one though, mostly because, while it will have English, everything on it will be set up for Chinese consumers.
I'll keep looking into it because ideally, I'd really like to have a Nexus 6, or Droid Turbo with 4G that works here.
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I'm not sure if the Nexus 5's chipset has bands that are compatible with the Chinese 4G standard TD-LTE (LTE TDD), this thread that talks about adding different bands not originally setup on the N5. Another LINK that may help that discusses the N5 on Chinese 4G networks you may need Google Translate.
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I'm not sure if the Nexus 5's chipset has bands that are compatible with the Chinese 4G standard TD-LTE (LTE TDD), this thread that talks about adding different bands not originally setup on the N5. Another LINK that may help that discusses the N5 on Chinese 4G networks you may need Google Translate.
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I'm looking to get the Nexus 6, not the Nexus 5.
The Nexus 6 has a US version and an international version. From what I've found online, the international version will actually be able to use the Chinese mainland LTE bands! I'm quite happy about that!
wideawakenow said:
I'm looking to get the Nexus 6, not the Nexus 5.
The Nexus 6 has a US version and an international version. From what I've found online, the international version will actually be able to use the Chinese mainland LTE bands! I'm quite happy about that!
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We this is the nexus 5 forum. The nexus 6 has a different SoC so nothing here can be assumed as valid for you.
Fellow XDA'ers:
I've tried asking this in the "Unlocking additional LTE bands" thread, but haven't had any success. From that thread, it seems possible to unlock LTE band 5 on the One, although it does say that not all bands can be used due to "hardware limitations". From what I've read, that seems to be limited to Band 20 though.
My question is: has anyone successfully got the One working on LTE Band 5 (850mhz)? It's the only LTE band available in Vermont at this time. I followed the instructions and changed all the NVRAM values, but I can't get LTE to work. I know 850mhz here is shared between GSM and LTE. Is there something else I need to do besides editing the values? Do I have to select any bands in software? When I dial *#*#4636#*#* I have LTE/GSM (PRL) selected, "Automatic" under band selection, and then I have LTE set in Cyanogenmod.
Any input is greatly appreciated!
I assume you double-checked after reboot that the values remained in place? Did you do the rmt_storage patch? Without the patch, the values wont stick in the latest modems.
Yes, I've double checked to make sure the values survive a reboot. I also used the patch. After some research it looks like there may be an issue when band 6 and band 19 are enabled that causes Band 5 to not work on LTE. The problem is that I don't know what NV value I should use to only enable LTE bands 2/4/5/17. Is there a way to calculate this value?
Yes, you can use NV Item calculator from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.nvcalc&hl=en
The NV Items are standard across all Qualcomm based devices.
Thank you! I calculated the value for bands 2/4/5/7/17 (matching what is available on the HTC One (M8). I'll give it a test this afternoon.
Still no LTE love here in Vermont. I used the NV Calculator to determine the NV 6828 value for bands 2/4/5/7/17. That value came out to be 65,626, which I input as 65626. I wrote the file, rebooted the phone, and verified that the settings kept.
My iPhone is connected to LTE on Band 5. My OnePlus just won't connect.
Are there any other settings that may need to be changed?
Did you update 6829 as well? I believe one is the supported bands, while the other tells the it which of those supported bands to use.
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Did you update 6829 as well? I believe one is the supported bands, while the other tells the it which of those supported bands to use.
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Yes, I did change both the 6828 and 6829 values. LTE is selected under mobile networks in Cyanogenmod, and LTE/GSM (PRL) is selected under *#*#4636#*#*. The band selection is set to automatic.
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Hmm, I don't see anything wrong.
I guess one last thing to do is able band 5 only and see if it works.
I tried that as well. For some reason the phone can connect to 850mhz on GSM, but not 850mhz on LTE. I can say for sure that the OPO does not support LTE on Band 5 even if the band is theoretically unlocked.
Have there been many people who can confirm that this unlocking method works at all for the Chinese OPO? I've been trying to get Bands 4 and 7 to work and I can't get anything above H+. Does this only work on a certain ROM/version by chance?
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Have there been many people who can confirm that this unlocking method works at all for the Chinese OPO? I've been trying to get Bands 4 and 7 to work and I can't get anything above H+. Does this only work on a certain ROM/version by chance?
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The method used on the global version of the OPO isn't specific to that version. All qualcomm-based devices are subject to the same method. You can find more information here for the OnePlus (both global and Chinese variants), and here for other qualcomm models such as the Galaxy S5. Both forums show that many people have had success unlocking additional bands.
Now comes the bad news. Just because you theoretically enable a band on the phone doesn't mean that it will work - as is the case with Band 5 on the global version of the OPO that i'm using. The phone also needs to have the correct antennas to connect to those bands. In my case, I can connect to GSM using the 850mhz band, but for some reason the same band cannot be used for Band 5 LTE (850mhz). I don't understand why this is the case, but I have yet to be able to get it to work.
Your luck may be better. It looks like the Chinese version runs bands 1/3/7. The global version is 1/3/4/7/17/38/40. If they do indeed have the exact same hardware inside, then a simple software unlock SHOULD allow you to turn the Chinese version into the global version. If they have a different antenna, then your results may vary.
As far as I know, there is no specific version or ROM that you have to have. If you have one of the newer versions of the software, you need to be rooted and install the RMT patch. See the first link I posted above for information on how to do that.
rbrugman said:
The method used on the global version of the OPO isn't specific to that version. All qualcomm-based devices are subject to the same method. You can find more information here for the OnePlus (both global and Chinese variants), and here for other qualcomm models such as the Galaxy S5. Both forums show that many people have had success unlocking additional bands.
Now comes the bad news. Just because you theoretically enable a band on the phone doesn't mean that it will work - as is the case with Band 5 on the global version of the OPO that i'm using. The phone also needs to have the correct antennas to connect to those bands. In my case, I can connect to GSM using the 850mhz band, but for some reason the same band cannot be used for Band 5 LTE (850mhz). I don't understand why this is the case, but I have yet to be able to get it to work.
Your luck may be better. It looks like the Chinese version runs bands 1/3/7. The global version is 1/3/4/7/17/38/40. If they do indeed have the exact same hardware inside, then a simple software unlock SHOULD allow you to turn the Chinese version into the global version. If they have a different antenna, then your results may vary.
As far as I know, there is no specific version or ROM that you have to have. If you have one of the newer versions of the software, you need to be rooted and install the RMT patch. See the first link I posted above for information on how to do that.
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Been to that thread, it's kinda dead now. Followed the instructions and don't get LTE bands 4 or 7 with Virgin/Bell, does that mean the Chinese OPO doesn't have the required hardware after all for those bands? Maybe Band 7 is not available in my area but then 4 must be since I had LTE on my other phones. Or maybe my phone is just faulty. Would love to know if there is anyone successfully using a Chinese OPO on the Bell LTE network.
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I've been trying to find the LTE bands for the International/European version of the S6/edge for a couple weeks now but have had no luck with any sites I trust. I was able to come across this site: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&...g925f_galaxy_s6_edge_lte-a_128gb_samsung_zero
Does anyone know how accurate this site is or know of where I might be able to find trustworthy specs?
Also interested in this. I might get an international version, but want to know if it will work here on the US on the AT&T network
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Interested as well, if the international version supports ATT Lte that would be awesome
This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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And what is the conclusion of this?
Sent from my SM-G900T
senneca01 said:
This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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That looks pretty damn official to me! Thanks!
Yes, it will work on AT&T and T-mobile.
http://www.gsmnation.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-unlocked.html
jorgenask said:
And what is the conclusion of this?
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It means the phone(s) should work on both AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses bands 2, 4, and 17. T-Mobile uses 2, 4, and 12. The International version supposedly supports 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26.
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It means the phone(s) should work on both AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses bands 2, 4, and 17. T-Mobile uses 2, 4, and 12. The International version supposedly supports 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26.
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Sorry for stating the obvious, but no support for band 17 and 12 on the international version then? What does this mean in teems of coverage and speed?
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jorgenask said:
Sorry for stating the obvious, but no support for band 17 and 12 on the international version then? What does this mean in teems of coverage and speed?
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Where there are cell towers that are broadcasting using bands 12 or 17, you will not be able to get LTE coverage, but you will be able to get coverages for towers broadcasting on bands 2 and 4. Your real world coverage will depend on where you live and how each carrier has decided to configure their networks, but you will be able to have LTE for both.
[edit] Both 12 and 17 are 700mhz frequencies, which means that indoor coverage will not be as good if you don't have those frequencies. So that's a trade-off you might want to think about before going with the International version. Though for the most part, many people will have access to a wi-fi network while at work and at home, which I assume would be where most people would be for most of their day.
From what I've been reading, WiFi calling/texting features only work if you buy a T-Mobile specific device. Any other phones used on T-Mobile won't work with WiFi calling/texting features. That alone is the reason I would not buy an international phone and use it on T-Mobile.
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From what I've been reading, WiFi calling/texting features only work if you buy a T-Mobile specific device. Any other phones used on T-Mobile won't work with WiFi calling/texting features. That alone is the reason I would not buy an international phone and use it on T-Mobile.
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What texting features are you talking about? Are you saying SMS won't work period?
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the verison I can purchase in France is the SM-G920FZ-02. Is it the same thing as the SM-G920F ?
I am unable to find the LTE bands for this version...
If it is not the case, I guess i could just get the SM-G920F from another country ? I've seen it on the UK version of the Samsung website.
I'm travelling a lot between Europe and the US so it's one of my main concerns but apparently Samsung doesn't give too much information on this yet!
FCC filing show the international model will support LTE band 2, 4, 12 among others: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=794688&fcc_id=A3LSMG920F
Based on the info so far in this thread , it would seem like a safe conclusion that the 920F international version would indeed work fine on the AT&T LTE network
So does it support 12 and 17?? I'd be interested in getting the international for ATT. Just not sure what will and won't work
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So does it support 12 and 17?? I'd be interested in getting the international for ATT. Just not sure what will and won't work
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Band 17 is a subband of 12 (12 is the larger scope that includes 17 in it). The S6 920F support band 12 so it should work on AT&T just fine.
Bands 4 and 2 which are also used by AT&T are also supported according to the FCC documents so i assume the international model 920F should work just fine.
I can't be sure the same about other 920X models out there.
Does anyone know the difference between the 920F and the 9200?
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Does anyone know the difference between the 920F and the 9200?
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Samsung I9200 is the Galaxy Mega. Is that what you're referring to?
I realised that there are commonly 2 available international versions, SM-920F (European?) and SM-920I (Rest of the world?). Wondering if anyone has the LTE specifications for the SM-920I version?
Edit (4 April): Found the answer to my own question at the Singapore Samsung website (under Specifications). So LTE Bands 1,2,3,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,26,28. No Band 4 though. I'm guessing that would greatly degrade the LTE experience with AT&T and T-Mobile?
4G+ LTE Cat 6 up to 300Mbps, VoLTE, 4G+ LTE FDD [Band 1 (2100MHz)/ Band 2 (1900MHz)/ Band 3 (1800MHz)/ Band 5 (850MHz)/ Band 7 (2600MHz)/ Band 8 (900MHz)/ Band 12 (700MHz)/ Band 17 (700MHz)/ Band 18 (800MHz)/ Band 19 (800MHz)/ Band 26 (800MHz) Band 28 (700MHz)], 4G+ LTE TDD [Band 40 (2300MHz)]
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Edit (8 April): Interestingly, the Australian Samsung website for the same model (SM-G920I) shows that Band 4 is supported. I'm totally confused now as to whether this particular model supports LTE Band 4.
4G FDD LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B26(800), B28(700)
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I find it rather odd that the US-bound Pure Edition doesn't support 1700 MHz for TMOUS, yet the international Style version does.
That being said, it's looking like both versions support all the other bands that TMOUS uses. So unless I'm missing something, that would mean all TMOUS users should be picking up the international version, not the US version.
@Gamesoul Master
T-Mobile in the US use:
GSM - Band 2 (1900 MHz)
3G (HSPA) - Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G (HSPA+) - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G LTE - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700MHz)
And the US Pure Edition has the following Bands :
GSM - (Band 2 (1900 MHz)
HSPA+ - 2100Mhz
4G LTE - Band 2, 4 and 12
So it should work fine for you on T-Mobile US network.
Geordie Affy said:
T-Mobile in the US use:
GSM - Band 2 (1900 MHz)
3G (HSPA) - Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G (HSPA+) - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G LTE - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700MHz)
And the US Pure Edition has the following Bands :
GSM - (Band 2 (1900 MHz)
HSPA+ - 2100Mhz
4G LTE - Band 2, 4 and 12
So it should work fine for you on T-Mobile US network.
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Except I (like some other people) live in an area where 1700 MHz is in use (no refarmed 1900 MHz here) and the LTE isn't solid yet. So if I get the Pure Edition, I'm going to be stuck jumping between 2G and LTE depending on where I'm standing... lol.
Gamesoul Master said:
Except I (like some other people) live in an area where 1700 MHz is in use (no refarmed 1900 MHz here) and the LTE isn't solid yet. So if I get the Pure Edition, I'm going to be stuck jumping between 2G and LTE depending on where I'm standing... lol.
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Ah right lol.
In T-Mobiles website they only list 1900 MHz which is odd.
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Geordie Affy said:
Ah right lol.
In T-Mobiles website they only list 1900 MHz which is odd.
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Yeah, I imagine for a lot of people it won't be a problem. But until they refarm around here, I'd be stuck on 2G half the time.
But if I can get my hands on the international version instead of the US version when it comes out, I won't have to worry, since it seems to have *all* the T-Mobile bands.
Gamesoul Master said:
Yeah, I imagine for a lot of people it won't be a problem. But until they refarm around here, I'd be stuck on 2G half the time.
But if I can get my hands on the international version instead of the US version when it comes out, I won't have to worry, since it seems to have *all* the T-Mobile bands.
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I wouldn't mind posting you it from here in the UK but the conversion rate will make it expensive for you.
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Geordie Affy said:
I wouldn't mind posting you it from here in the UK but the conversion rate will make it expensive for you.
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I appreciate the thought, but you are of course correct. Thinking I may just wait and see if maybe the refarming effort makes it to my area before the phone comes out. Since it's supposed to be mostly done by end of year, and I'm in an area that gets at least a little love from T-Mobile, perhaps it'll time out right for me.
Gamesoul Master said:
I appreciate the thought, but you are of course correct. Thinking I may just wait and see if maybe the refarming effort makes it to my area before the phone comes out. Since it's supposed to be mostly done by end of year, and I'm in an area that gets at least a little love from T-Mobile, perhaps it'll time out right for me.
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Yeah I won't be getting good LTE signal in my area but hopefully the network I'm with are going to be doing some work on it. Its just a waiting game really lol. It always seems like every area I move to has crap signal haha.
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Hmm...I used the site willmyphonework.net to test out both versions and I found a little difference. The global version supports both 1700 & 1900 MHz on 3G speed. Other than that, both are the same for LTE & 2G and work perfectly. Can anyone help me translate this into English and tell us which is more beneficial?
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Hmm...I used the site willmyphonework.net to test out both versions and I found a little difference. The global version supports both 1700 & 1900 MHz on 3G speed. Other than that, both are the same for LTE & 2G and work perfectly. Can anyone help me translate this into English and tell us which is more beneficial?
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Yeah, that was what I was getting at. Both versions seem identical as far as what T-Mobile needs, except for that 1700 MHz on the international version. Seems odd to me that they'd leave something like that out for the US version.
Does the additional 1700 MHz band mean better coverage for Tmobile in the US, or does Tmobile not use that one?
gonzalez11 said:
Does the additional 1700 MHz band mean better coverage for Tmobile in the US, or does Tmobile not use that one?
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They use 1900 MHz for their refarmed HSPA+ areas, but there's still many areas (like mine) that use 1700 MHz for that.
Gamesoul Master said:
They use 1900 MHz for their refarmed HSPA+ areas, but there's still many areas (like mine) that use 1700 MHz for that.
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AFAIK much more of their coverage uses 1700 than 1900.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
AFAIK much more of their coverage uses 1700 than 1900.
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True. 1900 is only as recent as their refarming, whereas 1700 they've been using for quite a while.
If you buy the international rather than the US are you going to be less likely to get tmobile wifi calling and volte with an update?
NCguy said:
If you buy the international rather than the US are you going to be less likely to get tmobile wifi calling and volte with an update?
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we wont be getting tmo wifi calling regardless
hello00 said:
we wont be getting tmo wifi calling regardless
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Wifi calling maybe with marshmallow? But possibly volte?
And wonder if US vs international would matter? I guess that's a lot of unknowns.
What's the point in Motorola making two versions in the first place? If all versions are sold carrier free, the LTE bands should be turned on for each carrier worldwide. Qualcomm modems support any band and frequency so long as the device has the correct firmware to leave them open.
In my opinion, it would probably be best to purchase the Pure (US) Edition to make sure it will work on all carriers in the US. After that I would root and turn on the 1700MHz frequency. Seeing how huge this issue will probably become, I'm sure someone will figure this out and post a guide on the forums. You may be best off waiting to see if this is the case.
Btw, my personal choice in this situation would be to switch carriers to AT&T or even Verizon, for the better coverage. Since Wifi Calling is supported natively when Marshmallow inevitably is released for these devices, there shouldn't be too much of a downside for anyone switching from TMO anymore (so long as carriers don't block out the wifi calling capabilities).
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What's the point in Motorola making two versions in the first place? If all versions are sold carrier free, the LTE bands should be turned on for each carrier worldwide. Qualcomm modems support any band and frequency so long as the device has the correct firmware to leave them open.
In my opinion, it would probably be best to purchase the Pure (US) Edition to make sure it will work on all carriers in the US. After that I would root and turn on the 1700MHz frequency. Seeing how huge this issue will probably become, I'm sure someone will figure this out and post a guide on the forums. You may be best off waiting to see if this is the case.
Btw, my personal choice in this situation would be to switch carriers to AT&T or even Verizon, for the better coverage. Since Wifi Calling is supported natively when Marshmallow inevitably is released for these devices, there shouldn't be too much of a downside for anyone switching from TMO anymore (so long as carriers don't block out the wifi calling capabilities).
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True that we will have WiFi calling via Marshmallow. It already works in stock betas that have been tested with other devices. No need for a separate all from T-Mobile.
But, how can 1700 be turned on in the US version, if the device does not have a 1700 radio? Since 1700 is not in the spec of the US version. It may not have a 1700 radio to activate.
All of the frequencies use the same radio. So if a phone is LTE capable, then it has all of the bands available. Lot's of times carriers will only activate the specific bands that are needed for their networks to make it harder to switch companies.
Here is a generalized guide for all qualcomm SoCs. This should work in theory, but again, nobody has been able to test it on the Moto x yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269