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Galaxy S4 market variants - LTE bands (incl UK vs US)

Hi all, I'm a long time user on XDA but I think this is my first new thread, so be nice
I'm keen to build up a list of LTE bands supported by the various variants of the S4. Current specs online seem to be fairly sketchy on what LTE bands are going to be supported by our pre-order phones. The general consensus from most sites is that the overall network frequencies supported will be:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100MHz
LTE Cat3 Up to 6 different band sets (dependent on market)
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I'm pretty much set on getting myself an S4 however unsure on what I'm actually buying into at the moment. I'm UK based (on o2 currently) but travel to the US several times a year. I've had the HTC Sensation XE which supports 1700MHz and therefore allows me HSPA connection on T-Mobile USA, and their $3/day prepaid tariff is brilliant. Going forward AT&T is also a possibility but their tariffs are a bit steeper (seem to need to pay for a month at a time).
So... what I'd like to do is pull together a list of supported bands for phones sold in various markets/regions/countries, as we get more detail on LTE bands supported. If folks are happy to post links to detail/evidence then I will compile this into a list. Would prefer to stick to the E-UTRA Operating Band numbers as opposed to frequencies.
For my own situation specifically, I'd also be keen to understand:
- Bandings of those phones sold by Carphone Warehouse UK, o2 UK, EE, AT&T, T-Mobile US
- There's a list of LTE bands on the S4 page on Wikipedia (so a big pinch of salt required): 700, 800, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2600 MHz. Is this likely to be the base European offering? If so, what band numbers would these correspond to, since a lot of the frequencies are used by several bands?
- AT&T apparently uses 700MHz for LTE - is that nationwide or just certain states picked up through acquisition of smaller carriers?
- Is T-Mobile US likely to get a special variant to support HSPA at 1700MHz?
- How widely has T-Mobile US reapportioned HSPA at 1900MHz (from the old MPC)
- If a new handset is bought outright at AT&T or T-Mobile USA, will they provide an unlock code free of charge?

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(reserved to set out a master list as information comes in)

kkrsrkrocks said:
From what i know, there are three market variants of the Galaxy S4.
GT-I9505 – Snapdragon 600 1.9 GHz with LTE - US and Most Western Markets
GT-I9500 – Exynos 5 Octa 1.6 GHz without LTE - Asia and Reast of the World Markets
SHV-E300S – Exynos 5 Octa 1.8 GHz with LTE - Korean Markets
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Thanks for the list - I think there's a semantic issue here though which reflects much more widely than this particular forum. For me this is about markets (e.g. countries, retailers and carriers) and in each these markets, what LTE bands will be accessible if I buy a i9505 handset. Will all of Europe and North America get the same LTE access? My impression was no. We could go quite granular with this...
UK:
Carphone Warehouse - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
EE - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
o2 - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Three - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Vodafone - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
USA:
AT&T - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
T-Mobile - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Verizon - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Sprint - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
etc etc...
In a country like the UK it could be the case that all of the retailers and networks all support the same bands... but I just don't know for now. For the US that probably won't be the case.
Potentially we could build up a picture for all countries?

kkrsrkrocks said:
From what i know, there are three market variants of the Galaxy S4.
GT-I9505 – Snapdragon 600 1.9 GHz with LTE - US and Most Western Markets
GT-I9500 – Exynos 5 Octa 1.6 GHz without LTE - Asia and Reast of the World Markets
SHV-E300S – Exynos 5 Octa 1.8 GHz with LTE - Korean Markets
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Dude how many accounts do you have? And how much would you spam your blog here?
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NZStevenC said:
Thanks for the list - I think there's a semantic issue here though which reflects much more widely than this particular forum. For me this is about markets (e.g. countries, retailers and carriers) and in each these markets, what LTE bands will be accessible if I buy a i9505 handset. Will all of Europe and North America get the same LTE access? My impression was no. We could go quite granular with this...
UK:
Carphone Warehouse - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
EE - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
o2 - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Three - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Vodafone - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
USA:
AT&T - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
T-Mobile - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Verizon - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
Sprint - i9505 with LTE band a, b, c, d, e, f
etc etc...
In a country like the UK it could be the case that all of the retailers and networks all support the same bands... but I just don't know for now. For the US that probably won't be the case.
Potentially we could build up a picture for all countries?
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I've been waiting to find out more information about this as well.
I'm in Canada on the Roger's network, and when I visit the US, I too use the T-Mobile $3 a day plan.
Unlike the S3, does this mean that all North American S4 variants will be the same phone (Telus, Rogers, Wind, T-Mobile, Verizon, etc)? If so, does that mean that if I purchase any S4 in North America that it will work on all North American cell networks?
Thanks!

kkrsrkrocks said:
Dude.. Its not a blog.. Its a full website. Also this was no spam. It was just giving information. If I have some information on my site then why should I give source of some other site?? Also if you give source of some site say xyz, can i accuse you of promoting the site..!! Finally I give complete information that I want to, in the post itself. Its up to the reader to visit the source
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I have seen 3 accounts getting banned,for promoting the same website. Even when there are true sources like sammobile, etc, you source them to your website.
Already reported your post.

knowthenazz said:
I've been waiting to find out more information about this as well.
I'm in Canada on the Roger's network, and when I visit the US, I too use the T-Mobile $3 a day plan.
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Pleased to hear I'm not the only one looking for this detail. It seems to odd to me that something's going on sale in just over a week but we aren't informed of exactly what it is. If Carphone Warehouse would confirm their model includes LTE on bands 3, 4, 7 and 20, I'd pre-order a sim-free phone right now

I'm hoping to find out what are the frequencies 9500 support, not 9505.
Because 9505 has already been revealed.
If, within US, the bandwidths are carrier-dependent, what about international 9500?

I live in the US and I'm also very interested in LTE band info amongst the different variants. I have the Verizon GS4 [SCH-I545] on preorder and currently using the AT&T Galaxy Note [SGH-I717]. I know absolutely nothing about UK carriers or their LTE bands etc, but know a pretty good bit about the US so I'll layout some of the info I have so far. Also I travel to Japan a lot so I would be interested in their LTE info as well.
Firstly, the GT-I9505 is not a variant that is intended for the North American market. (We are special and Samsung always makes us special ones ) It can probably be bought online in the US, but no carrier is selling that model and I wouldn't expect it to be compatible with any LTE in the US (though it could work).
LTE Bands US carriers use that I know of:
AT&T (Evidence)
Currently Used Bands: 4, 17
(Band 17 is the only one I've actually seen when I look at my phone and I believe is used in all their LTE markets nationwide so far)
Future Use: WCS Band [EUTRA unnumbered ~2300Mhz]
(Evidence)
Potential Future Use: 2, 5
(See SGH-I337 supported bands for evidence)
Verizon (Evidence)
Currently Used Bands: 13
Future Use: 4
(Verizon to begin rolling out band 4 Summer 2013)
T-Mobile (Evidence)
Currently Used Bands: 4
LTE Bands of North American GS4 Varients:
AT&T SGH-I337
Bands: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17
(Samsung Website Shows Bands 1,4,7,17 and FCC License Testing shows Bands 2,4,5,17 [Bands 1, 7 are not used in the US, therefore FCC doesn't care to test them.])
I think Samsung made a typo on their site listing all the bands because FCC documents proves that this phone can operate LTE on band 2 and 5.
Verizon SCH-I545
Bands: 4, 13
(Evidence and Evidence)
T-Mobile SGH-M919
Bands: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17
(Evidence and Evidence)
Sprint SPH-L720
Bands: 25
(Evidence and Evidence)
LTE Bands on International Variant:
GT-I9505
Bands: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20
(This is my best guess based on the this info. However, 800 and 850 could be any combination of bands 5,6,18,19,20,26,27. Also 1800 could be either band 3 or 9. Some of these are subsets of others.)
(Also, this proves that it at least has LTE band 5.)
I can post more info as I come across it, but hopefully this will get you started.

do you know if the s4 is the same everywhere for frequencies and then limited via software or it actually has different hardware? I'm referring to the s4's in the USA vs the international version.

camaroz28 said:
I live in the US and I'm also very interested in LTE band info amongst the different variants. I have the Verizon GS4 [SCH-I545] on preorder and currently using the AT&T Galaxy Note [SGH-I717]. I know absolutely nothing about UK carriers or their LTE bands etc, but know a pretty good bit about the US so I'll layout some of the info I have so far. Also I travel to Japan a lot so I would be interested in their LTE info as well.
Firstly, the GT-I9505 is not a variant that is intended for the North American market. (We are special and Samsung always makes us special ones ) It can probably be bought online in the US, but no carrier is selling that model and I wouldn't expect it to be compatible with any LTE in the US (though it could work).
LTE Bands US carriers use that I know of:
AT&T (Evidence)
Currently Used Bands: 4, 17
(Band 17 is the only one I've actually seen when I look at my phone and I believe is used in all their LTE markets nationwide so far)
Future Use: WCS Band [EUTRA unnumbered ~2300Mhz]
(Evidence)
Potential Future Use: 2, 5
(See SGH-I337 supported bands for evidence)
Verizon (Evidence)
Currently Used Bands: 13
Future Use: 4
(Verizon to begin rolling out band 4 Summer 2013)
T-Mobile (Evidence)
Currently Used Bands: 4
LTE Bands of North American GS4 Varients:
AT&T SGH-I337
Bands: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17
(Samsung Website Shows Bands 1,4,7,17 and FCC License Testing shows Bands 2,4,5,17 [Bands 1, 7 are not used in the US, therefore FCC doesn't care to test them.])
I think Samsung made a typo on their site listing all the bands because FCC documents proves that this phone can operate LTE on band 2 and 5.
Verizon SCH-I545
Bands: 4, 13
(Evidence and Evidence)
T-Mobile SGH-M919
Bands: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 17
(Evidence and Evidence)
Sprint SPH-L720
Bands: 25
(Evidence and Evidence)
LTE Bands on International Variant:
GT-I9505
Bands: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20
(This is my best guess based on the this info. However, 800 and 850 could be any combination of bands 5,6,18,19,20,26,27. Also 1800 could be either band 3 or 9. Some of these are subsets of others.)
(Also, this proves that it at least has LTE band 5.)
I can post more info as I come across it, but hopefully this will get you started.
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Would this international version with Bands: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20. work on Rogers highest speed LTE Band 7?? EVEN though this phone is unable to connect to rogers LTE band 4???
Answers to this question will be thanked!

All of the major japanese LTE carriers (not counting emobile who is a minor player) operate their primary network on band 1.
Softbank bands 1/18 (and band 41 TD-LTE)
Docomo bands 1/19/21 (band 3 to come)
au bands 1/11/18
Emobile band 3
Docomo is the only carrier with the S4 (phones are bought locked, subsided via a carrier shop 99.9% of the time in Japan). The japanese variant (SC-04E) only interoperates on band 1. The radio claims band 4 support but I was never able to make it operate with T-mobile LTE.

-sandro- said:
do you know if the s4 is the same everywhere for frequencies and then limited via software or it actually has different hardware? I'm referring to the s4's in the USA vs the international version.
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Many of the versions of the S4 have different hardware, but for the ones that do have the same hardware (all the US versions), it's hard to tell whether the frequencies are set through software or hardware. I imagine the only way to verify would be to, for example, try an AT&T modem on a Verizon phone and see if it can connect to AT&T LTE band 17. If not, then either there are deeper incompatibilities between the two phones, or the hardware is not able to receive that band.
THE_KINGDOM said:
Would this international version with Bands: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20. work on Rogers highest speed LTE Band 7?? EVEN though this phone is unable to connect to rogers LTE band 4???
Answers to this question will be thanked!
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I am inclined to say yes, except that via Samsung's website it has a disclaimer stating that the bands it supports depends on the market. Which I interpret as meaning that the supported bands depend on where you buy the phone. So perhaps if you bought the phone in a market where band 7 is utilized, it would likely work. (Assuming it's unlocked.)
evildave_666 said:
All of the major japanese LTE carriers (not counting emobile who is a minor player) operate their primary network on band 1.
Softbank bands 1/18 (and band 41 TD-LTE)
Docomo bands 1/19/21 (band 3 to come)
au bands 1/11/18
Emobile band 3
Docomo is the only carrier with the S4 (phones are bought locked, subsided via a carrier shop 99.9% of the time in Japan). The japanese variant (SC-04E) only interoperates on band 1. The radio claims band 4 support but I was never able to make it operate with T-mobile LTE.
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According to Samsung's spec page on the SC-04E The phone only supports "800,1500,2100MHz" which I assume are bands 1, 19, 21 as the phone was intended for operation on Docomo which uses all 3 of those bands on their network.
If you are referring to the service mode menu when you say "the radio claims band 4 support" I have found that to be an incorrect for all of samsung's phones lately. For example, my Verizon Galaxy S4 service mode menu claims it supports bands 2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20 which is completely false as Verizon operates only on band 13 at this moment and this phone absolutely doesn't support AT&T's band 17.

camaroz28 said:
According to Samsung's spec page on the SC-04E The phone only supports "800,1500,2100MHz" which I assume are bands 1, 19, 21 as the phone was intended for operation on Docomo which uses all 3 of those bands on their network.
If you are referring to the service mode menu when you say "the radio claims band 4 support" I have found that to be an incorrect for all of samsung's phones lately. For example, my Verizon Galaxy S4 service mode menu claims it supports bands 2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20 which is completely false as Verizon operates only on band 13 at this moment and this phone absolutely doesn't support AT&T's band 17.
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I have not gotten anything but a band 1 connection on my SC-04E, in areas with only platinum-band service (i.e. anything in the mountains) only UMTS..

evildave_666 said:
I have not gotten anything but a band 1 connection on my SC-04E, in areas with only platinum-band service (i.e. anything in the mountains) only UMTS..
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Not entirely sure I understand this post, but I'll try to respond anyways. From what I can tell, the platinum-band in Japan refers to any bands in the 700-900Mhz range? So for Docomo, that would be their 800MHz band 19 allocation, which according to this map, they have almost no coverage with that band (the orange parts of the map) unless you live in the Chūgoku region. Their map does not distinguish between band 1 and band 21 but, based on an article I read here, it is safe to say that there won't be significant deployments of band 21 until after March 2014, and that even then they will only be in "key metropolitan areas" according to the article.
All that is to say, that I think it's clear that the vast majority of Docomo's LTE network is deployed with band 1, so therefore it makes sense that you have only seen that band being utilized on your phone. As for the mountains, again refer to the map, they don't have much of any LTE coverage in the mountains so it makes sense that you are limited to UMTS there.

Thanks guys for this detailed info, it does bring some hope for me to use my S4 bought in the UK in the USA while I travel for a week.
So just to confirm, a Vodafone UK phone would work in T-Mobile USA network on 4G speeds?
Also, I want to know more on the Three-UK's "Feel at Home" offer - did anyone use their S4 in the USA and how was your experience with this?

you UK version will only work with T-Mobile 1900Mhz 21Mbit 3g where they use it (very few places) It won't work on 4g lte.

Bear pricing in mind. I was in the US for 5 days a few weeks back but on three. I used their new free USA roaming. Between 1 and 2 GB hspa+ and all included. Worked great on s4 i9505
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

in which cities did you get hspa network?

planetf1 said:
Bear pricing in mind. I was in the US for 5 days a few weeks back but on three. I used their new free USA roaming. Between 1 and 2 GB hspa+ and all included. Worked great on s4 i9505
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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thanks very much for confirming! happy days :angel:

Buy nexus 5 from us and use it in Europe?

Hi
I'm thinking of buying the nexus 5, tho it has not arrived to my country yet and my resellers will put on a 100-200$ extra as they did with the nexus 4, so if I order one from Google play store (the unlocked one)(will order it through a post forwarding company) will it work in EU?
I have my doubts because I read a review that said " Network compatibility
Google has made two versions of the handset, one specifically for North America/Asia, and another for other regions like Europe."
Thanks in advance
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I am also interested in this. Hope there is just one version that is compatible worldwide.
Thank you in anticipation to whoever can clarify this.

You can actually use the US model in Europe without problem, but you can't use LTE because the LTE bands supported in this US(& Canada) model are mostly not compatible in Europe & Asia.
The specs in the N5 page has clearly stated the different lte bands support.
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Rest of World:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
You can check the supported bands in your country here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

Oh hmm that stinks :/ so it's not possible today to get the N5 with LTE for the Gplay price outside us?
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julllleee said:
Oh hmm that stinks :/ so it's not possible today to get the N5 with LTE for the Gplay price outside us?
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It's available in these play stores starting today, UK, Australia, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Japan, and Korea. Only in different prices. UK is selling as high as £339 for 32GB.

Buy from Play Store in Malta
Malta is not yet a supported country for the Play Store. Can anyone suggest a way to get the new Nexus 5?
Through the US play store it is way cheaper.

I've used the N4 US model in EU without an issue, so the N5 should be no different.

cipsaz said:
I've used the N4 US model in EU without an issue, so the N5 should be no different.
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It is different... You are not able to use the LTE (4G) networks with a US device in Europe.

jwirth779 said:
Malta is not yet a supported country for the Play Store. Can anyone suggest a way to get the new Nexus 5?
Through the US play store it is way cheaper.
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Download tunnelbear and use it to buy the nexus on the play store.
Register with borderlinx and have the nexus ship there.
From borderlinx, send to you personal address.
Really like borderlinx since i paid only usd 9 for shipping my nexus 4 and that too with dhl and tracking.

lp4u said:
Download tunnelbear and use it to buy the nexus on the play store.
Register with borderlinx and have the nexus ship there.
From borderlinx, send to you personal address.
Really like borderlinx since i paid only usd 9 for shipping my nexus 4 and that too with dhl and tracking.
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What about import taxes? I live in europe

Ginkeltjes said:
It is different... You are not able to use the LTE (4G) networks with a US device in Europe.
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How about 3G?

andreas_h92 said:
What about import taxes? I live in europe
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Borderlinx will calculate the import taxes in your country. when paying Borderlinx for the shipping, you will also be paying the taxes to them. tey will pay the taxes to your customs. Therefore DHL will directly deliver to you without delay at the customs.

Out here in UAE the LTE baseband is 1800Mhz sadly from what I am seeing both the phones have no support for that spectrum. Screwed :/

http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-models-whats-different-between-two
GIYF

Garell said:
You can actually use the US model in Europe without problem, but you can't use LTE because the LTE bands supported in this US(& Canada) model are mostly not compatible in Europe & Asia.
The specs in the N5 page has clearly stated the different lte bands support.
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Rest of World:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
You can check the supported bands in your country here:
Thanks for this post. I was considering getting an N5 at a Best Buy in 2 week in L.A. and checked my operator (H3g) LTE bands:
1800 - Band 3
2600 - Band 7
not present in US radio version...
Need to decide if LTE support is worth the + € 100 difference!
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huzz said:
Out here in UAE the LTE baseband is 1800Mhz sadly from what I am seeing both the phones have no support for that spectrum. Screwed :/
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No, Carriers in UAE are utilizing band 3 & 7, the model sold outside of US & Canada supports both of these bands. Double check the specs in the N5 page.
You can check your country's supported LTE bands here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
schmappel said:
How about 3G?
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3G is not affected.
anawim said:
Thanks for this post. I was considering getting an N5 at a Best Buy in 2 week in L.A. and checked my operator (H3g) LTE bands:
1800 - Band 3
2600 - Band 7
not present in US radio version...
Need to decide if LTE support is worth the + € 100 difference!
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Exactly the dilemma I'm having right now.

3G and 3,5G is quite fast in Europe. I'm getting 4-6 megs on 3,5G which is enough for me.
Heavy data usage costs more so I use WiFi for it anyway. In my case I'd buy one from US.
Considering LTE as a still early dev. technology in my part of the world I'm even more convinced.

I just bought a US version for use in Europe
dvdfan said:
3G and 3,5G is quite fast in Europe. I'm getting 4-6 megs on 3,5G which is enough for me.
Heavy data usage costs more so I use WiFi for it anyway. In my case I'd buy one from US.
Considering LTE as a still early dev. technology in my part of the world I'm even more convinced.
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I just bought a US version of Nexus 5 for use in Europe. I don't have a problem with the network speeds on my Nexus 4, and I have 100Mbit fiber at the house. I can report here in three weeks how things panned out for me.
/L

lp4u said:
Download tunnelbear and use it to buy the nexus on the play store.
Register with borderlinx and have the nexus ship there.
From borderlinx, send to you personal address.
Really like borderlinx since i paid only usd 9 for shipping my nexus 4 and that too with dhl and tracking.
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does anyone know whether buying the n5 from a country you don't reside in will affect warranty? I'm assuming warranty is only covered by the country that the device is issued for...

If LG policy is still the same then you will have to send it to the country where you bought it. The question is: will they ship it back directly to your country...
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upgrade

I am currently using the oneplus one, but like to try the galaxy note 5. I saw this one on ebay and wonder if this will work with tmobile 4G LTE Band.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Samsung...locked-GOLD-/361372540381?hash=item54237b5ddd
It saids LTE B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/25/26/28/38/39/40/41 from his listing.
But does tmobile use 1700/2100MHz is it band 4?
Just little afraid getting it from overseas in case no LTE with tmobile

Based on the supported bands it will work with most Tmobile bands except HSPA (3G) on the 1700 band. You will also not have WiFi calling or VoLTE on band 12 since it's not a certified device. You would be better off buying the tmobile note 5 N920T unless those things I mentioned don't matter to you.
Supported Bands:
2G/Voice Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands: 850/900/1900/2100
LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/25/26/28/38/39/40/41
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Oh ya, I totally forgot about the wifi calling features. from tmobile. I will get the tmobile note 5 instead then. Thanks for the details information.
jmerlos said:
Based on the supported bands it will work with most Tmobile bands except HSPA (3G) on the 1700 band. You will also not have WiFi calling or VoLTE on band 12 since it's not a certified device. You would be better off buying the tmobile note 5 N920T unless those things I mentioned don't matter to you.
Supported Bands:
2G/Voice Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands: 850/900/1900/2100
LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/25/26/28/38/39/40/41
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Found a local seller here for a brand new tmobile phone. $500 I texted him earlier regarding the phone.
Good thing I ask is the phone already paid off. I am sure some buyer don't remember to ask then end up having problem.
http://postimg.org/image/7n0fap6jl/

benzso63 said:
Found a local seller here for a brand new tmobile phone. $500 I texted him earlier regarding the phone.
Good thing I ask is the phone already paid off. I am sure some buyer don't remember to ask then end up having problem.
http://postimg.org/image/7n0fap6jl/
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If the phone is not paid off I would not buy it. I would use an upgrade, Jump or Jump on Demand. Jump on Demand would probably be best if you like to switch phones often.

[Completed] Choosing a 4G SIM Modem with correct LTE bands

Hello fellow xda users,
I am currently trying to buy myself a 4G LTE modem, and I'm looking into buying one from China, since the devices I need here cost 200 euros and up, whereas from Chinese retailers they go as low as 67 euros.
The only problem I'm having is choosing a device which supports the correct LTE Bands of my country.
Here in Lithuania I am using services of the carrier name BITE. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe (Country: Lithuania) BITE provides users with LTE bands 3, 7 and 20. (1800, 2600, and 800 Mhz respectively). And they sell their expensive SIM Modem devices (such as Huawei E5186s-22a) which support bands LTE FDD DD800/900/1800/2100/2600MHz, TDD 2600MHz (bands 3, 7 and 20 are included).
Whereas the products offered in China have support of only 2 of the 3 bands listed.
Not sure if I'm allowed to share product links here, but here we go:
1. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5200...-Hotspot-Portable-Power-Bank/32315152662.html
2. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3G-M...ower-bank-3g-wifi-router-with/1881314121.html
As you can see, both these devices support Band 3 (1800Mhz) and Band 7 (2600Mhz), however the support for Band 20 (800Mhz) is not listed.
So I'm not sure where to go from this point.
I am using my Xperia Z1 (C6903) phone from the place where I want to use the 4G SIM Modem, and my phone is showing me that it is using 4G network (3/5 bars) on BITE network.
However I'm not sure, which bands are being used in that area? It's AROUND the capital city of Lithuania. The network map of the carrier BITE shows that the city is fully covered in 4G+ network, whereas the outskirts of the city are 4G only -- and my phone proves this (4G works both in and outside the city, can't test the LTE).
In the end what I fully want to know:
Will I have 4G internet access ordering one of these devices that support bands 3 and 7, but not 20?
Will I be able to connect to the Internet at all?
Is band 20 (800 Mhz) that critical for 4G to work with this device? Or should I just spare the extra hundred more euros and buy the carrier certified device?

afenix said:
Hello fellow xda users,
I am currently trying to buy myself a 4G LTE modem, and I'm looking into buying one from China, since the devices I need here cost 200 euros and up, whereas from Chinese retailers they go as low as 67 euros.
The only problem I'm having is choosing a device which supports the correct LTE Bands of my country.
Here in Lithuania I am using services of the carrier name BITE. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe (Country: Lithuania) BITE provides users with LTE bands 3, 7 and 20. (1800, 2600, and 800 Mhz respectively). And they sell their expensive SIM Modem devices (such as Huawei E5186s-22a) which support bands LTE FDD DD800/900/1800/2100/2600MHz, TDD 2600MHz (bands 3, 7 and 20 are included).
Whereas the products offered in China have support of only 2 of the 3 bands listed.
Not sure if I'm allowed to share product links here, but here we go:
1. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5200...-Hotspot-Portable-Power-Bank/32315152662.html
2. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3G-M...ower-bank-3g-wifi-router-with/1881314121.html
As you can see, both these devices support Band 3 (1800Mhz) and Band 7 (2600Mhz), however the support for Band 20 (800Mhz) is not listed.
So I'm not sure where to go from this point.
I am using my Xperia Z1 (C6903) phone from the place where I want to use the 4G SIM Modem, and my phone is showing me that it is using 4G network (3/5 bars) on BITE network.
However I'm not sure, which bands are being used in that area? It's AROUND the capital city of Lithuania. The network map of the carrier BITE shows that the city is fully covered in 4G+ network, whereas the outskirts of the city are 4G only -- and my phone proves this (4G works both in and outside the city, can't test the LTE).
In the end what I fully want to know:
Will I have 4G internet access ordering one of these devices that support bands 3 and 7, but not 20?
Will I be able to connect to the Internet at all?
Is band 20 (800 Mhz) that critical for 4G to work with this device? Or should I just spare the extra hundred more euros and buy the carrier certified device?
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Hi and thank you for using XDA Assist
Sorry man but we handle only mobile devices here on this forum, so i cannot give an answer for your thought.
Thread closed.

Help with finding the right AM7 model for the United States

Just want to start off by saying I've read a lot of posts on this forum and love the people and the phoneis awesome and so I really want one, but I don't know which model to get? I live out in the Midwest using T-Mobiles network. Which model will work best with T-Mobiles network and is their a model that supports 4G LTE that works in the US? If anyone can provide a link to the right model to buy for my situation or any information will be greatly appreciated!

Baseballace122112 said:
Just want to start off by saying I've read a lot of posts on this forum and love the people and the phone is awesome and so I really want one, but I don't know which model to get? I live out in the Midwest using T-Mobiles network. Which model will work best with T-Mobiles network and is their a model that supports 4G LTE that works in the US? If anyone can provide a link to the right model to buy for my situation or any information will be greatly appreciated!
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You need to get model MT7-L09 with 16GB ROM and 2GB RAM. It is available for purchase on Amazon and ebay. The MT7-L09 is compatible with both the AT&T and T-Mobile GSM networks. LTE speeds should be available everywhere on T-Mobile with the MT7-L09, but it seems to only be available on AT&T in certain locations. I installed the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store on my Mate 7, and I verified that I am able to get an LTE connection on AT&T in certain places.

So I've found an MT7-L09 model on newegg but according to the info on it, it doesn't support 4G on T-Mobile. So does it truly support 4G or not?

Baseballace122112 said:
So I've found an MT7-L09 model on newegg but according to the info on it, it doesn't support 4G on T-Mobile. So does it truly support 4G or not?
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I've had my MT7-L09 for 6 months now with service through MetroPCS, which runs on T-Mobile's network and I have 4G coverage. I get absolutely great speeds with my phone. I purchased mine through BHPhoto.

Baseballace122112 said:
So I've found an MT7-L09 model on newegg but according to the info on it, it doesn't support 4G on T-Mobile. So does it truly support 4G or not?
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T-Mobile uses the following frequency bands for 4G/LTE:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development) / in service in selected areas
The MT7-L09 supports bands 2 and 4, so it will get LTE data rates on the T-Mobile network pretty much anywhere. The phone will show "4G" when you are on LTE.
On the other hand, AT&T primarily uses 700 MHz band 17 for LTE. Since the MT7-L09 doesn't support band 17, you can't get LTE data rates on the AT&T network in most places. However, AT&T does use bands 2 and 4 in certain areas. Therefore, some people are able to get LTE data rates on AT&T with the MT7-L09, depending on where they are located.
I have AT&T, and my data rate alternates between LTE and HSPA+, depending on what part of the city I am in. Honestly, I don't even notice the difference between the two during normal use. I also own an iPhone with LTE, and the MT7-L09 seems faster even when it is on HSPA+.