I'm just wondering, how often do you guys hit HSDPA (or have it display HSDPA in the status or H icon if ROM'd)?
I feel like my phone never hits HSDPA and is always on UMTS. I am on CM7 so I can easily see when my phone is on H and sometimes I see it hit H when it's not even downloading anything and idling. And when I do download something, it's usually always 3G. What is up with that? And I'm in North Dallas if anyone on here has the Nexus S too with the same issue.
always have it on. it never labels itself as "3G" (UMTS) in my area (new york). It depends on your area, if your area has HSDPA support then you should try updating your radio if you haven't already.
aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
Aria807 said:
aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
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Stock Captivate doesn't have H, it appears as "3G" it is possibly he could of applied a hack that replaces 3G whether it is on UMTS or HSDPA as "H"
I have it on all the time I live in Tampa,FL
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I have it on all the time I live in Tampa,FL
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I live in hernando county it's like 3 counties north of tampa. I get it all the time with the latest CM7
I'm in Washington State (not DC) and I get the H pretty regularly however my speeds never seem "HSPA"-like, they're usually max out at maybe 1MBps whereas I can usually hit 5ish on 3G. Never
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aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
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Well, isn't the Captivate on AT&T and you're on TMo with an NS? You can't compare two phones on two different networks like that.
AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
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AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
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I laughed a little bit on the inside.
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Well, isn't the Captivate on AT&T and you're on TMo with an NS? You can't compare two phones on two different networks like that.
AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
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Better in that it has the highest rate of dropped calls?
Aria807 said:
I'm just wondering, how often do you guys hit HSDPA (or have it display HSDPA in the status or H icon if ROM'd)?
I feel like my phone never hits HSDPA and is always on UMTS. I am on CM7 so I can easily see when my phone is on H and sometimes I see it hit H when it's not even downloading anything and idling. And when I do download something, it's usually always 3G. What is up with that? And I'm in North Dallas if anyone on here has the Nexus S too with the same issue.
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Im also in Dallas, was wondering what your download and upload speeds were. I was getting close to 5/mbs down last month but now i get around 3/mbs. Have you noticed a difference?
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I laughed a little bit on the inside.
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Better in that it has the highest rate of dropped calls?
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Whatever dudes...
Point was the OP is trying to figure out why his friends modded Captivate gets an H signal on AT&T and his unmodded NS doesn't in the same location with TMobile - you can't compare two phones on two networks and derive anything meaningful about the proper functioning of one of them in regards to gettting HSPA or not.
As to the snide AT&T bashing, again, whatever... In the areas of Los Angeles, Southern California, Arizona and Nevada that I personally frequent, AT&T provides much better service. YMMV may vary, obviously. It's all about where you're at for all of the networks.
For me, if I'm going someplace and I know I HAVE TO have a signal to make a call, you can bet I'm taking my AT&T phone with me because I am certain to find more dead zones with TMo than I do on AT&T. AT&T may drop calls, but at least it can make them in places TMo can't, like inside a building.
But you didn't really want to turn this into a back and forth on AT&T vs TMo did you?
Get it all the time .. ...when its turned on
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Whatever dudes...
Point was the OP is trying to figure out why his friends modded Captivate gets an H signal on AT&T and his unmodded NS doesn't in the same location with TMobile - you can't compare two phones on two networks and derive anything meaningful about the proper functioning of one of them in regards to gettting HSPA or not.
As to the snide AT&T bashing, again, whatever... In the areas of Los Angeles, Southern California, Arizona and Nevada that I personally frequent, AT&T provides much better service. YMMV may vary, obviously. It's all about where you're at for all of the networks.
For me, if I'm going someplace and I know I HAVE TO have a signal to make a call, you can bet I'm taking my AT&T phone with me because I am certain to find more dead zones with TMo than I do on AT&T. AT&T may drop calls, but at least it can make them in places TMo can't, like inside a building.
But you didn't really want to turn this into a back and forth on AT&T vs TMo did you?
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keyword modded. the OP didn't specify what ROM the person was using because I know for the SGS based phones there is a mod available that replaces the 3G icon (regardless of UMTS or HSDPA) to 4G or H depending on the mod.
its easy to fake something on Android, its just as easy as manipulating your Android version or making 2.2.X looking like Gingerbread.
And hell.. look on Engadget on the Inspire 4G review. This supposedly AT&T 4G phone's speeds compared to T-Mobile's HSDPA (3.5G) are just a joke.
Especially when HSUPA is disabled on the Inspire 4G. AT&T just doesn't respect the Android OS, all they simply do is cripple the phone.
- Disabling "unknown source" apps from being installed. Yeah, yeah.. we can hack it and enable it again. But for the average user, it isn't happening.
- Now.. HSUPA
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/
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This is supposedly AT&T's "4G" Network.
http://www.att.com/network/?wtSlotClick=1-004P16!CIHPM01V1-1-1&rel=nofollow#fbid=_Fse7JSTH-U
Not all 4G is created equal. AT&T is the only carrier that will offer two layers of network technology that deliver 4G speeds: HSPA+ and LTE. Our HSPA+ network, combined with enhanced backhaul, is capable of speeds up to 4x faster than AT&T's already fast mobile broadband speeds. And we'll be evolving to even higher speeds with the rollout of our LTE network.
Why does that matter? You'll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
-From AT&T's 4G page
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vs. Nexus S' 3.5G (HSDPA)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/6
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Why does that matter? You'll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
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keyword modded. the OP didn't specify what ROM the person was using because I know for the SGS based phones there is a mod available that replaces the 3G icon (regardless of UMTS or HSDPA) to 4G or H depending on the mod.
its easy to fake something on Android, its just as easy as manipulating your Android version or making 2.2.X looking like Gingerbread.
And hell.. look on Engadget on the Inspire 4G review. This supposedly AT&T 4G phone's speeds compared to T-Mobile's HSDPA (3.5G) are just a joke.
Especially when HSUPA is disabled on the Inspire 4G. AT&T just doesn't respect the Android OS, all they simply do is cripple the phone.
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This is supposedly AT&T's "4G" Network.
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Huh?
What does the Inspire have to do with this? What does AT&T's "4G" network have to do with it? We're talking about the current HSPA network because that's all either the Captivate or Nexus S which were being compared support. I'm also confused about why you posted a comparison of two different TMobile phones, one a "4G" phone and the other not a "4g" phone and their speedtest results.
The comment I responded to said his Nexus S doesn't get HSPA in Dallas when his friend's Captivate does. It's very plausible to me that his friend's getting HSPA service and he's not. In my experience, with my AT&T Galaxy S phone sitting next to my TMo Nexus S, the AT&T phone will routinely be on 5 bars of voice signal and have a full speed (4Mb/s) data connection available to me while the Nexus S on TMo is 0 bars of voice and EDGE data if anything at all. Even when on HSPA connection, the Nexus S can't pull more than 3Mb/s around here, so AT&T beats them in speed as well as coverage. I have active SIMS in both phones and often have them side by side. Based on my experience it seems perfectly reasonable to believe that other areas are the same.
The Galaxy S phones support HSPA up to 7.2mb/s...same as the Nexus S. Whatever a modded phone displays for that connection is irrelevant to what I said, which was, in my opinion, that AT&T has a better network. Here in Los Angeles, it covers more square miles than TMo, it penetrates buildings with full bars and 3G/HSPA speeds when TMo can't even push GSM voice or EDGE data into the same building and it doesn't drop calls any more frequently than TMo does.
Which brings me back to my original point to the author of that comment: I'm not sure what he thinks comparing the signal indicator on his NS to his friend's Captivate is actually revealing. He's got two different phones on two different networks and both are obviously modded in some manner; the only clear conclusion to me is that unless he's screwed up his NS somehow, his friend's got better reception because it's a better network in their area. I suspect this is commonplace across the major metros around the country.
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I've seen screenshots of Captivates homescreens from you peoples showing an H instead of just 3G. May I ask how you enabled this? Thanks in advance!
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HSDPA and 3G are the same thing (i'm pretty sure)
or more technically speaking, HSDPA is one half of 3G, with HSUPA being the other half (HSDPA=download, HSUPA=upload)...
can anybody correct me if i'm wrong?
You're correct. AT&T requires all its 3G phone to display 3G instead of any other icon. Often times, ppl find ways to replace it with the native 3G icon, H, which is widely used by rest of the world. But that makes no difference in actual connection speed.
Lucke said:
HSDPA and 3G are the same thing (i'm pretty sure)
or more technically speaking, HSDPA is one half of 3G, with HSUPA being the other half (HSDPA=download, HSUPA=upload)...
can anybody correct me if i'm wrong?
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this is correct. when referring to both of them together they are commonly called just HSPA.
Lucke said:
HSDPA and 3G are the same thing (i'm pretty sure)
or more technically speaking, HSDPA is one half of 3G, with HSUPA being the other half (HSDPA=download, HSUPA=upload)...
can anybody correct me if i'm wrong?
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"3G" is the common short abbreviation for UMTS. HSDPA is an update to UMTS that gives faster download speeds (a version is widely deployed on AT&T). HSUPA is a protocol upgrade that enables faster upload speeds (installing HSUPA equipment borked upload speed on AT&T recently). Combining the two is called HSPA. HSPA+ is an update to HSPA that's even faster. T-Mobile is planning on rolling this out. LTE (AT&T's 4G pathway) is totally unrelated to HSPA.
Thanks for your replies! I appreciate the schooling
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"3G" is the common short abbreviation for UMTS. HSDPA is an update to UMTS that gives faster download speeds (a version is widely deployed on AT&T). HSUPA is a protocol upgrade that enables faster upload speeds (installing HSUPA equipment borked upload speed on AT&T recently). Combining the two is called HSPA. HSPA+ is an update to HSPA that's even faster. T-Mobile is planning on rolling this out. LTE (AT&T's 4G pathway) is totally unrelated to HSPA.
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This is the correct post.
Also, I'm certain AT&T doesn't disallow the H icon because I've seen screenshots of the Captivate with that icon.
However, at the same time, I have a -51 dBm signal and no HSUPA which I know I should be able to get here because my iPhone 4 got it. Something is going on, but I'm not sure what yet.
Edit: Nevermind, it sounds like I'm wrong. In the manual there's no mention of an H icon. There's also no mention of HSUPA. I think we just got screwed by AT&T. What a surprise.
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This is the correct post.
Also, I'm certain AT&T doesn't disallow the H icon because I've seen screenshots of the Captivate with that icon.
However, at the same time, I have a -51 dBm signal and no HSUPA which I know I should be able to get here because my iPhone 4 got it. Something is going on, but I'm not sure what yet.
Edit: Nevermind, it sounds like I'm wrong. In the manual there's no mention of an H icon. There's also no mention of HSUPA. I think we just got screwed by AT&T. What a surprise.
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I'm pretty sure AT&T does disallow use of the H icon. They did on my Fuze. The reason is that there's ALWAYS confusion when people don't have a good operational knowledge of the protocol names. There's always someone on the EnergyROM or Cyanogenmod threads asking why "only" H comes up when they expect 3G.
Anyway, I have an AT&T band Nexus One as well as a Captivate. The N1 is definitely HSUPA compatible. I just tried speedtest.net a few times and got an average of 2.5M down and 175k up (5 runs no run over 256k) in midtown Manhattan. On my Captivate I'm getting ~4M down and 200k up. Upload speeds are about the same, probably limited by AT&T's current (under) capability.
I don't have access to an iPhone 4, but if you do, could you do a few runs on the speedtest.net app on both devices from the same location and let us know the results? At this point, I'm pretty convinced it's the HSUPA equipment screw-up at AT&T not lack of HSUPA on the phone.
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I'm pretty sure AT&T does disallow use of the H icon. They did on my Fuze. The reason is that there's ALWAYS confusion when people don't have a good operational knowledge of the protocol names. There's always someone on the EnergyROM or Cyanogenmod threads asking why "only" H comes up when they expect 3G.
Anyway, I have an AT&T band Nexus One as well as a Captivate. The N1 is definitely HSUPA compatible. I just tried speedtest.net a few times and got an average of 2.5M down and 175k up (5 runs no run over 256k) in midtown Manhattan. On my Captivate I'm getting ~4M down and 200k up. Upload speeds are about the same, probably limited by AT&T's current (under) capability.
I don't have access to an iPhone 4, but if you do, could you do a few runs on the speedtest.net app on both devices from the same location and let us know the results? At this point, I'm pretty convinced it's the HSUPA equipment screw-up at AT&T not lack of HSUPA on the phone.
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That's what I was saying. My iPhone 4 got HSUPA here with no issue at all. When everyone else's HSUPA had issues, I still had no problem at all. So unless HSUPA decided to die in my area the day I returned my iPhone 4, I don't think the Captivate has it.
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That's what I was saying. My iPhone 4 got HSUPA here with no issue at all. When everyone else's HSUPA had issues, I still had no problem at all. So unless HSUPA decided to die in my area the day I returned my iPhone 4, I don't think the Captivate has it.
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When did you return it? The iPhone 4 was released on June 24 and the AT&T HSUPA issue cropped up around July 6th or so. That's when my Nexus went from over ~1M up to ~200k up. If you gave it up after July 6, what sort of upload speeds were you getting? What sort of speeds are you getting now on the Captivate? Not trying to grill you or anything, I'm genuinely curious.
I have noticed in the 3 days since I have had my g2x that I never get 3g, I either get 2g or 4g on my status bar, but never 3g. Anybody else having this issue?? Considering sending it back to TMO for a new one. And yes I have a new similar card, got it about 3 months ago when I had my G2.
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I've noticed the same thing though idk if that's really a bad thing....
They probably lumped 3g and 4g together.
That's what I was thinking but wasn't sure.....has anyone seen 3G on their status bar ever????
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Come to think of it... I haven't.
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I've read other threads here where people report seeing a 3G icon... I haven't seen it myself.
But it's possible that we're in areas where HSPA+ is turned on, which is "4G", and once you leave that range, you are in 2G (EDGE) territory. In other words, there's no area near us that is just HSPA (3G), it's either HSPA+ or EDGE.
Too many people not doing a search. No one has seen the 3g logo/symbol yet. Also a side note for those complaining about 4g speeds:
T-Mobile USA uses the 1700/2100 MHz AWS Band for its 3G network. The carrier states it allows faster download and upload data speeds utilizing HSPA+ technology, which allows for simultaneous voice and data. Upgrades to HSPA+ are planned for 2009 through 2010 which may boost average download speeds from 7.2Mbps to 21Mbps. (Reported from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile)
But my old G2 that I had just a few days ago hag Edge(2G), 3G, and H(HSPA/4G). Now with my new g2x it's either 2G, or 4G. No 3G.
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yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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This, its not that we don't have 3g. Its that the display in the upper right hand corner says either 2g or 4g.
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yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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I agree. My "4G" speeds range from 1.5 Mbps to 7.0 Mbps down depending on my physical location
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Too many people not doing a search. No one has seen the 3g logo/symbol yet. Also a side note for those complaining about 4g speeds:
T-Mobile USA uses the 1700/2100 MHz AWS Band for its 3G network. The carrier states it allows faster download and upload data speeds utilizing HSPA+ technology, which allows for simultaneous voice and data. Upgrades to HSPA+ are planned for 2009 through 2010 which may boost average download speeds from 7.2Mbps to 21Mbps. (Reported from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile)
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Actually there is a thread here where someone stated they did see 3G (I'm skeptical) on a long distance driving trip they did.
There is also a comment from someone that the "missing" 3G icon is a bug TMO is aware of and will fix in the first software update. Take it for what it's worth (although I would believe this one).
You will not see a 3G icon appear on any TMO 4G device.
Here is the reason:T-Mobile is using the same frequencies for 3G as they do for "4G". Meaning they are using the same cell tower/antenna. The upgrade in speed comes from a base station software upgrade and a strengthened backhaul. HSPA+ devices branded as 4G literally cannot tell the difference between 3G and 4G.
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You will not see a 3G icon appear on any TMO 4G device.
Here is the reason:T-Mobile is using the same frequencies for 3G as they do for "4G". Meaning they are using the same cell tower/antenna. The upgrade in speed comes from a base station software upgrade and a strengthened backhaul. HSPA+ devices branded as 4G literally cannot tell the difference between 3G and 4G.
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You forgot a technology: UMTS (on which HSPA is based). It can tell the difference between UMTS and HSPA (but not HSPA and HSPA+). That's why other phones have had separate "3G" and "H" icons. Both were originally 3G technologies (in the same way that GPRS and EDGE are both 2G), but HSPA has been expanded to now qualify as a 4G technology (I'm not going to argue semantics here, HSPA+ is 4G and provides faster speeds than WiMAX).
Has anyone pulled apart the framework-res.apk to see if there's a 3G png in there?
I haven't seen 3g sign either, only 2g or 4g, mostly 2g though, and I'm in vegas... I'm returning the phone for that reason, and I have very bad light bleeding from the top corners too. When calling t mobile, they don't even try to troubleshoot, I guess they r aware of that problem already. Now I'm waiting for another one in the mail
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Too many people not doing a search. No one has seen the 3g logo/symbol yet. Also a side note for those complaining about 4g speeds:
T-Mobile USA uses the 1700/2100 MHz AWS Band for its 3G network. The carrier states it allows faster download and upload data speeds utilizing HSPA+ technology, which allows for simultaneous voice and data. Upgrades to HSPA+ are planned for 2009 through 2010 which may boost average download speeds from 7.2Mbps to 21Mbps. (Reported from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile)
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Just to add: The G2x is limited to 14.4Mbps theoretical maximum download speed So you won't enjoy anywhere near 21Mbps, or 42Mbps which is now rolling out slowly and is already in 3 cities (Las Vegas, NYC, Orlando). The most I've gotten on my G2x is 7.9Mbps down.
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yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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This.
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bobthq said:
I haven't seen 3g sign either, only 2g or 4g, mostly 2g though, and I'm in vegas... I'm returning the phone for that reason, and I have very bad light bleeding from the top corners too. When calling t mobile, they don't even try to troubleshoot, I guess they r aware of that problem already. Now I'm waiting for another one in the mail
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I can understand returning the phone because of the bleeding but to say your going to return the device because you haven't seen a 3G icon is laughable.
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I haven't seen a 3G icon either but I don't think ir bothers me one bit. In fact, I am trying to grasp why it would bother anyone.
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4G Says UMTS ?????
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I haven't seen a 3G icon either but I don't think ir bothers me one bit. In fact, I am trying to grasp why it would bother anyone.
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My beef is not the lack of a 3G icon, although I have yet to see one on my phone.
My beef is the lack of reception at my work, a problem the Galaxy S 4G and MyTouch 4G dont seem to have.
And why does the phone say UMTS when its on 4G ?
That right there tends to make me think the phone has an issue
(along with poor/no reception at work).
Does TMobile not have a 3G speed?
Im always on EDGE unless I go Downtown. Then its HSPA+
Its never HSPA.
Verizon has 3G AND LTE coverage? wtf
BUMP.
I really want to know the reason for the issue
T-Mobile's '4G' network is just an enhanced version of their 3G network. So when you see 4G in some areas, you might actually be running on 3G speeds.
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T-Mobile's '4G' network is just an enhanced version of their 3G network. So when you see 4G in some areas, you might actually be running on 3G speeds.
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I know that much,
but I never get HSPA (3G) unless Im directly under HSPA+(4G)
Basically I am always on EDGE unless I'm downtown.
Other TMO phones and VErizon have 3G coverage nearly everywhere..they never drop to EDGE or 2G
Correct me if I'm wrong, but t mobile does not have true 4g. When you get the 4g icon on your phone, that's just their enhanced 3g. So you are getting 3g. From what I've read i think they just upgraded their 3g towers with hshpa+ which only hsdpa+ enabled phones like the sensation 4g can take advantage of. What you're really missing is true 4g
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but t mobile does not have true 4g. When you get the 4g icon on your phone, that's just their enhanced 3g. So you are getting 3g. From what I've read i think they just upgraded their 3g towers with hshpa+ which only hsdpa+ enabled phones like the sensation 4g can take advantage of. What you're really missing is true 4g
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I feel as no one is fully understanding what I'm trying to say.
I know 4G is really an overmarketed 3G+
Now, Tmobile phones and other services receive 3G where I only receive "2G" .
But I do receive HSPA+ when I go downtown.
Why dont I receive normal 3G speeds like other devices?
Its either EDGE or HSPA+
Never an inbetween
Check T-Mobile's website, where you live probably doesn't have or hasn't been upgraded to the 3G/4G service yet. Layman's term; the towers around your house don't support 3G/4G. Call T-Mobile and have them check.
This is common in a lot of suburbs that have a low population. Like you mentioned when you go downtown, you'll have 3G but not at home.
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Check T-Mobile's website, where you live probably doesn't have or hasn't been upgraded to the 3G/4G service yet. Layman's term; the towers around your house don't support 3G/4G. Call T-Mobile and have them check.
This is common in a lot of suburbs that have a low population. Like you mentioned when you go downtown, you'll have 3G but not at home.
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Hopefully your right. Hate it to be a problem with my SIM or phone.
I dont live but 5minutes from downtown.
Very residential but still out of the way, so like i said hopefully your right
I can directly relate to your problem. First off, I didn't know that T-Mobile's 4G is just 3G+, but that's good to know. I've had the HTC Sensation 4G for over 3 months, and I've travelled all over LA and the only services I've seen are 4G, 2G, & G. I've yet to see 3G.
I'll see my Sensation jump between "H" and "3G" all the time - essentially the same thing, as noted.
(in case this was part of your question) "Standard 3G" (such as what AT&T offers) isn't available on TMOUS because they missed out on buying part of the "standard 3G" spectrum.
Before my Sensation I had a Legend (still do actually) - it's a "standard GSM/3G" phone. Without the TMOUS-specific radio, best data I could get was EDGE. (though if I went to UK and used a local SIM, I'd get 3G just fine due to compatibility with their 3G nets)
Well the name of the phone is the samsung infuse 4g. My phone is rooted running CM10. And for some reason, since I got it, it has always run on 3g (or some other network). Is it an additional service to pay for to get 4g? I have AT&T
It is not true 4g even though it is in the name.... AT&T calls it something like 3g+ with enhanced backhaul.
By editing a few image files, I can make your phone show that it's running on a 6g+ network.
The rom that you are using is probably showing closer to the real connection that you'really getting.
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Exactly as both have said...infuse doesn't have real 4G...it has H+ which like pony said said is more like 3G+
And with a simple edit to the framework-res you can make it display whatever you want...doesn't mean you will actually
Have it but it will be displayed...back in the gb days I ditched out the h+ icon for a 4glte icon so the phone displayed 4g LTE even though it was on H+
Cyanogenmod only displays up to H. They also have a more accurate service "detector"
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like they said. the infuse has faux-g not 4g. atleast not lte 4g. bassically att has had umts with hspa for a while which is technically 3g+ or 3.5 g in othe rcountries. att just decided to advertise it all as 3g so that they can say they have the fastest 3g network with a huge 3g coverage map even if the area didn't have the hspa aspect of it working instead of a huge 3g map and a small 3.5 g map. then they came out with hspa+ with "enhanced backhaul" which now things get confusing do they call it 3g++? or 3.75g? nope some government agency decide that since we have different technologies running on different networks 4g is not a definition of service type but as long as the theoretical speed is above 10mbps or something they can advertise 4g. so att does, they just put a little disclaimer in the fine print "4g speeds made availible through hspa+ with enhanced backhaul"
well the infuse takes this a step further in the factory firmware and doesn't report 3g, hspa and hspa+ as seperate connection statuses. it just assumes h+ anytime you have a umts connection.
so basically you've been lied to by your phone and deceived by marketing practices. all the cell companies deceive. they select the information that makes the look best and only show you that.
Its LTE not 4g. That's why it usually says H+ instead of 4g
Either way 850KB/s is enough for me. (Sorry for the weird picture my screen is 160dpi)
P.s. my GPS didn't lock in time. I'm in Sacramento and the server is 3000 miles away in Florida. (350 ping)
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Hello folks,
I have an unlocked At&t LG G3 but I have a problem with internet data, most of the time I can get only 2G (Edge) speed, which is extremly slow. And rarley I get 4G network, I don't know how this is happening but the thing I'm sure about is when I restart the phone.. it goes back to 2G network.
My APN data is correct, and Network Mode in phone's settings has GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. I tried to dial the USSD code 3845*#850# however it says "connection problem or invalid mmi code".
I want 3G and 4G networks, what do you suggest me to do?
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Hello folks,
I have an unlocked At&t LG G3 but I have a problem with internet data, most of the time I can get only 2G (Edge) speed, which is extremly slow. And rarley I get 4G network, I don't know how this is happening but the thing I'm sure about is when I restart the phone.. it goes back to 2G network.
My APN data is correct, and Network Mode in phone's settings has GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. I tried to dial the USSD code 3845*#850# however it says "connection problem or invalid mmi code".
I want 3G and 4G networks, what do you suggest me to do?
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You never said what your carrier is, that would be the big factor in this. Maybe the phone doesn't support the bands that your carrier is using?
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hyelton said:
You never said what your carrier is, that would be the big factor in this.
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hyelton said:
Maybe the phone doesn't support the bands that your carrier is using?
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If it doesn't support the bands, Why I was someimes able to get 4G network?
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If it doesn't support the bands, Why I was someimes able to get 4G network?
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Maybe you where in a different area when it worked? Remember 1 area may have that band while another has 4G in a different band.
Also when you had 4G what did it say at the top of your phone? Did it say 4G or 4G LTE? If it just said 4G and your running stock rom that's actually HSPA/3G
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Maybe you where in a different area when it worked? Remember 1 area may have that band while another has 4G in a different band.
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I'm living at the center of a city where I'm surronded by network antennas.. I don't think that my issue has something to do with the carrier bands because I'm sitting at the moment at a place where 4G worked for me once.
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Also when you had 4G what did it say at the top of your phone? Did it say 4G or 4G LTE? If it just said 4G and your running stock rom that's actually HSPA/3G
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I'm running Fulmics ROM, it said 4G at the top.
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I'm living at the center of a city where I'm surronded by network antennas.. I don't think that my issue has something to do with the carrier bands because I'm sitting at the moment at a place where 4G worked for me once.
I'm running Fulmics ROM, it said 4G at the top.
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Did you confirm it was either 3G or 4G/LTE under status? Cause since that was an AT&T phone in America they call 3G 4G that's why I was asking. Not sure what fulmics is based on. Also several other sites indicate that phone doesn't support your current carriers LTE band. And it supports half of a different carriers LTE band there.
Your current carrier is says no for LTE. And another carrier like Maroc Telecom it supports "some" of 4G bands.
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Did you confirm it was either 3G or 4G/LTE under status? Cause since that was an AT&T phone in America they call 3G 4G that's why I was asking. Not sure what fulmics is based on. Also several other sites indicate that phone doesn't support your current carriers LTE band. And it supports half of a different carriers LTE band there.
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Under status? Where?
At the status bar it said 4G. And I remember that one day I was running a different ROM or maybe the stock ROM and it said LTE on the status bar
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Your current carrier is says no for LTE. And another carrier like Maroc Telecom it supports "some" of 4G bands.
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Actually my current carrier is Maroc Telecom. But just today I bought an Orange sim card (Formerly Meditel) to test if 4G will work with this carrier but unfortunately it doesn't.. Maybe it will one day as I experienced with Maroc Telecom.
AminhoVic said:
Under status? Where?
At the status bar it said 4G. And I remember that one day I was running a different ROM or maybe the stock ROM and it said LTE on the status bar
Actually my current carrier is Maroc Telecom. But just today I bought an Orange sim card (Formerly Meditel) to test if 4G will work with this carrier but unfortunately it doesn't.. Maybe it will one day as I experienced with Maroc Telecom.
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Stock rom would say 4G and have LTE in small letters below it.
The D850 only supports 1 4G band with Maroc Telecom and they have at least 2.
And the D850 seems to support no 4G bands with Meditel
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Stock rom would say 4G and have LTE in small letters below it.
The D850 only supports 1 4G band with Maroc Telecom and they have at least 2.
And the D850 seems to support no 4G bands with Meditel
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I just have went outside and it looks like I'm getting 4G with Orange(Meditel). When I went back home, it switched back to 2G network, I think that was due to the signal being weak.
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Stock rom would say 4G and have LTE in small letters below it.
The D850 only supports 1 4G band with Maroc Telecom and they have at least 2.
And the D850 seems to support no 4G bands with Meditel
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So yesterday, as I said in the previous post that I got 4G with Orange(Meditel). I took screenshots:
Here as you can see, I made a test internet and it's indeed 4G
Then, I changed Network Mode in phone's settings from "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto" to "WCDMA only" and it looks like 3G(H) is also working fine. I made a test speed as you can see.
And then I thought I should restart the phone and see if I can still get 4G network. When the phone restarted I got at the begining Edge network but after a couple minutes it switched to 4G.
However, the next day which is Today, I was in another area with 5-bar signal.. I turned on internet data and I unfortunately I got only Edge network.. then I went back to the exact area where I got 4G yesterday.. but it never switched to 4G as you can see here:
And when I changed Network Mode in phone's settings to "WCDMA only" I got no signal, service disabled.
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So yesterday, as I said in the previous post that I got 4G with Orange(Meditel). I took screenshots:
Here as you can see, I made a test internet and it's indeed 4G
Then, I changed Network Mode in phone's settings from "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto" to "WCDMA only" and it looks like 3G(H) is also working fine. I made a test speed as you can see.
And then I thought I should restart the phone and see if I can still get 4G network. When the phone restarted I got at the begining Edge network but after a couple minutes it switched to 4G.
However, the next day which is Today, I was in another area with 5-bar signal.. I turned on internet data and I unfortunately I got only Edge network.. then I went back to the exact area where I got 4G yesterday.. but it never switched to 4G as you can see here:
And when I changed Network Mode in phone's settings to "WCDMA only" I got no signal, service disabled.
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From what your describing. Id say its a mix of alot of things. One problem could be that the closest tower does not run your carrier. Thats why they always talk about network coverage. Not all towers serve every carrier. Especially carrier owned towers. The next thing is if your city is more like an actual city. Tall building can be a big problem for cell signals. Also if there are alot of cell towers close, you could be catchinf interference. Then theres also a secondary problem. If one or more of the cases i listed are taking place, your phone prioritizes you connection. If the for example 4G network is to congested or you have a weak signal to what ever is hosting that network, your phone will switch, and in your in a place with a bunch of networks being served and they are all interfering with each other causing bad reception, then that could definitely cause your problem.
Whats your area like as far as buildings and cell tower locations and about how many are there. Depending on your answer, i may have a solution.
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AminhoVic said:
So yesterday, as I said in the previous post that I got 4G with Orange(Meditel). I took screenshots:
Here as you can see, I made a test internet and it's indeed 4G
Then, I changed Network Mode in phone's settings from "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto" to "WCDMA only" and it looks like 3G(H) is also working fine. I made a test speed as you can see.
And then I thought I should restart the phone and see if I can still get 4G network. When the phone restarted I got at the begining Edge network but after a couple minutes it switched to 4G.
However, the next day which is Today, I was in another area with 5-bar signal.. I turned on internet data and I unfortunately I got only Edge network.. then I went back to the exact area where I got 4G yesterday.. but it never switched to 4G as you can see here:
And when I changed Network Mode in phone's settings to "WCDMA only" I got no signal, service disabled.
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Btw, idk about your 4g since the pic showed 16 down. Im on at&t and when im not throttled i get a max of 50mbps download and 10 to 15 up. And my verizon jetpack is around 25 to 35 down, 5 to 10 up. And both have 4G LTE.
Also, one thing i forgot to mention is that both the carriers you mention could have choppy networks running in your area or just in general.
Also, how many bars you have mean nothing. 5 bars on one carrier can be 2 on another be cause the reception level displayed is not standardized. If you want to accurately read your cell strength, you need to have it read out in its numbered form, idk what the standard measurement is called for cell signal strength but there is one. But there is no standard for how its displayed.
Remember this person is not in the USA speeds vary depending on county.. he's not using the phone on AT&T he's using an att phone in another country that doesn't fully support the bands 100%
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Remember this person is not in the USA speeds vary depending on county.. he's not using the phone on AT&T he's using an att phone in another country that doesn't fully support the bands 100%
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I was aware of where and want carriers hes on now the speeds I wasnt thinkng about.