No 3G/4G Just 2G Edge network !? - AT&T LG G3

Hello folks,
I have an unlocked At&t LG G3 but I have a problem with internet data, most of the time I can get only 2G (Edge) speed, which is extremly slow. And rarley I get 4G network, I don't know how this is happening but the thing I'm sure about is when I restart the phone.. it goes back to 2G network.
My APN data is correct, and Network Mode in phone's settings has GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. I tried to dial the USSD code 3845*#850# however it says "connection problem or invalid mmi code".
I want 3G and 4G networks, what do you suggest me to do?

AminhoVic said:
Hello folks,
I have an unlocked At&t LG G3 but I have a problem with internet data, most of the time I can get only 2G (Edge) speed, which is extremly slow. And rarley I get 4G network, I don't know how this is happening but the thing I'm sure about is when I restart the phone.. it goes back to 2G network.
My APN data is correct, and Network Mode in phone's settings has GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. I tried to dial the USSD code 3845*#850# however it says "connection problem or invalid mmi code".
I want 3G and 4G networks, what do you suggest me to do?
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You never said what your carrier is, that would be the big factor in this. Maybe the phone doesn't support the bands that your carrier is using?
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hyelton said:
You never said what your carrier is, that would be the big factor in this.
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Maybe the phone doesn't support the bands that your carrier is using?
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If it doesn't support the bands, Why I was someimes able to get 4G network?

AminhoVic said:
If it doesn't support the bands, Why I was someimes able to get 4G network?
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Maybe you where in a different area when it worked? Remember 1 area may have that band while another has 4G in a different band.
Also when you had 4G what did it say at the top of your phone? Did it say 4G or 4G LTE? If it just said 4G and your running stock rom that's actually HSPA/3G
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hyelton said:
Maybe you where in a different area when it worked? Remember 1 area may have that band while another has 4G in a different band.
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I'm living at the center of a city where I'm surronded by network antennas.. I don't think that my issue has something to do with the carrier bands because I'm sitting at the moment at a place where 4G worked for me once.
hyelton said:
Also when you had 4G what did it say at the top of your phone? Did it say 4G or 4G LTE? If it just said 4G and your running stock rom that's actually HSPA/3G
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I'm running Fulmics ROM, it said 4G at the top.

AminhoVic said:
I'm living at the center of a city where I'm surronded by network antennas.. I don't think that my issue has something to do with the carrier bands because I'm sitting at the moment at a place where 4G worked for me once.
I'm running Fulmics ROM, it said 4G at the top.
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Did you confirm it was either 3G or 4G/LTE under status? Cause since that was an AT&T phone in America they call 3G 4G that's why I was asking. Not sure what fulmics is based on. Also several other sites indicate that phone doesn't support your current carriers LTE band. And it supports half of a different carriers LTE band there.
Your current carrier is says no for LTE. And another carrier like Maroc Telecom it supports "some" of 4G bands.
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hyelton said:
Did you confirm it was either 3G or 4G/LTE under status? Cause since that was an AT&T phone in America they call 3G 4G that's why I was asking. Not sure what fulmics is based on. Also several other sites indicate that phone doesn't support your current carriers LTE band. And it supports half of a different carriers LTE band there.
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Under status? Where?
At the status bar it said 4G. And I remember that one day I was running a different ROM or maybe the stock ROM and it said LTE on the status bar
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Your current carrier is says no for LTE. And another carrier like Maroc Telecom it supports "some" of 4G bands.
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Actually my current carrier is Maroc Telecom. But just today I bought an Orange sim card (Formerly Meditel) to test if 4G will work with this carrier but unfortunately it doesn't.. Maybe it will one day as I experienced with Maroc Telecom.

AminhoVic said:
Under status? Where?
At the status bar it said 4G. And I remember that one day I was running a different ROM or maybe the stock ROM and it said LTE on the status bar
Actually my current carrier is Maroc Telecom. But just today I bought an Orange sim card (Formerly Meditel) to test if 4G will work with this carrier but unfortunately it doesn't.. Maybe it will one day as I experienced with Maroc Telecom.
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Stock rom would say 4G and have LTE in small letters below it.
The D850 only supports 1 4G band with Maroc Telecom and they have at least 2.
And the D850 seems to support no 4G bands with Meditel
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hyelton said:
Stock rom would say 4G and have LTE in small letters below it.
The D850 only supports 1 4G band with Maroc Telecom and they have at least 2.
And the D850 seems to support no 4G bands with Meditel
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I just have went outside and it looks like I'm getting 4G with Orange(Meditel). When I went back home, it switched back to 2G network, I think that was due to the signal being weak.

hyelton said:
Stock rom would say 4G and have LTE in small letters below it.
The D850 only supports 1 4G band with Maroc Telecom and they have at least 2.
And the D850 seems to support no 4G bands with Meditel
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So yesterday, as I said in the previous post that I got 4G with Orange(Meditel). I took screenshots:
Here as you can see, I made a test internet and it's indeed 4G
Then, I changed Network Mode in phone's settings from "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto" to "WCDMA only" and it looks like 3G(H) is also working fine. I made a test speed as you can see.
And then I thought I should restart the phone and see if I can still get 4G network. When the phone restarted I got at the begining Edge network but after a couple minutes it switched to 4G.
However, the next day which is Today, I was in another area with 5-bar signal.. I turned on internet data and I unfortunately I got only Edge network.. then I went back to the exact area where I got 4G yesterday.. but it never switched to 4G as you can see here:
And when I changed Network Mode in phone's settings to "WCDMA only" I got no signal, service disabled.

AminhoVic said:
So yesterday, as I said in the previous post that I got 4G with Orange(Meditel). I took screenshots:
Here as you can see, I made a test internet and it's indeed 4G
Then, I changed Network Mode in phone's settings from "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto" to "WCDMA only" and it looks like 3G(H) is also working fine. I made a test speed as you can see.
And then I thought I should restart the phone and see if I can still get 4G network. When the phone restarted I got at the begining Edge network but after a couple minutes it switched to 4G.
However, the next day which is Today, I was in another area with 5-bar signal.. I turned on internet data and I unfortunately I got only Edge network.. then I went back to the exact area where I got 4G yesterday.. but it never switched to 4G as you can see here:
And when I changed Network Mode in phone's settings to "WCDMA only" I got no signal, service disabled.
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From what your describing. Id say its a mix of alot of things. One problem could be that the closest tower does not run your carrier. Thats why they always talk about network coverage. Not all towers serve every carrier. Especially carrier owned towers. The next thing is if your city is more like an actual city. Tall building can be a big problem for cell signals. Also if there are alot of cell towers close, you could be catchinf interference. Then theres also a secondary problem. If one or more of the cases i listed are taking place, your phone prioritizes you connection. If the for example 4G network is to congested or you have a weak signal to what ever is hosting that network, your phone will switch, and in your in a place with a bunch of networks being served and they are all interfering with each other causing bad reception, then that could definitely cause your problem.
Whats your area like as far as buildings and cell tower locations and about how many are there. Depending on your answer, i may have a solution.
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AminhoVic said:
So yesterday, as I said in the previous post that I got 4G with Orange(Meditel). I took screenshots:
Here as you can see, I made a test internet and it's indeed 4G
Then, I changed Network Mode in phone's settings from "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto" to "WCDMA only" and it looks like 3G(H) is also working fine. I made a test speed as you can see.
And then I thought I should restart the phone and see if I can still get 4G network. When the phone restarted I got at the begining Edge network but after a couple minutes it switched to 4G.
However, the next day which is Today, I was in another area with 5-bar signal.. I turned on internet data and I unfortunately I got only Edge network.. then I went back to the exact area where I got 4G yesterday.. but it never switched to 4G as you can see here:
And when I changed Network Mode in phone's settings to "WCDMA only" I got no signal, service disabled.
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Btw, idk about your 4g since the pic showed 16 down. Im on at&t and when im not throttled i get a max of 50mbps download and 10 to 15 up. And my verizon jetpack is around 25 to 35 down, 5 to 10 up. And both have 4G LTE.
Also, one thing i forgot to mention is that both the carriers you mention could have choppy networks running in your area or just in general.
Also, how many bars you have mean nothing. 5 bars on one carrier can be 2 on another be cause the reception level displayed is not standardized. If you want to accurately read your cell strength, you need to have it read out in its numbered form, idk what the standard measurement is called for cell signal strength but there is one. But there is no standard for how its displayed.

Remember this person is not in the USA speeds vary depending on county.. he's not using the phone on AT&T he's using an att phone in another country that doesn't fully support the bands 100%
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hyelton said:
Remember this person is not in the USA speeds vary depending on county.. he's not using the phone on AT&T he's using an att phone in another country that doesn't fully support the bands 100%
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I was aware of where and want carriers hes on now the speeds I wasnt thinkng about.

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HSDPA - How often do you hit it?

I'm just wondering, how often do you guys hit HSDPA (or have it display HSDPA in the status or H icon if ROM'd)?
I feel like my phone never hits HSDPA and is always on UMTS. I am on CM7 so I can easily see when my phone is on H and sometimes I see it hit H when it's not even downloading anything and idling. And when I do download something, it's usually always 3G. What is up with that? And I'm in North Dallas if anyone on here has the Nexus S too with the same issue.
always have it on. it never labels itself as "3G" (UMTS) in my area (new york). It depends on your area, if your area has HSDPA support then you should try updating your radio if you haven't already.
aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
Aria807 said:
aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
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Stock Captivate doesn't have H, it appears as "3G" it is possibly he could of applied a hack that replaces 3G whether it is on UMTS or HSDPA as "H"
I have it on all the time I live in Tampa,FL
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lorijuan1024 said:
I have it on all the time I live in Tampa,FL
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I live in hernando county it's like 3 counties north of tampa. I get it all the time with the latest CM7
I'm in Washington State (not DC) and I get the H pretty regularly however my speeds never seem "HSPA"-like, they're usually max out at maybe 1MBps whereas I can usually hit 5ish on 3G. Never
Aria807 said:
aw mine has the new I9020XXKB3 radio with Netarchy 1.2.5-cfs. It rarely ever goes HSDPA. I see my friends Galaxy S Captivate and his always says H.
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Well, isn't the Captivate on AT&T and you're on TMo with an NS? You can't compare two phones on two different networks like that.
AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
distortedloop said:
AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
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I laughed a little bit on the inside.
distortedloop said:
Well, isn't the Captivate on AT&T and you're on TMo with an NS? You can't compare two phones on two different networks like that.
AT&T has a much better network, in my opinion. I very frequently see H speeds on my AT&T Galaxy S phone in places where I can't even get plain 3G on the Nexus S TMo.
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Better in that it has the highest rate of dropped calls?
Aria807 said:
I'm just wondering, how often do you guys hit HSDPA (or have it display HSDPA in the status or H icon if ROM'd)?
I feel like my phone never hits HSDPA and is always on UMTS. I am on CM7 so I can easily see when my phone is on H and sometimes I see it hit H when it's not even downloading anything and idling. And when I do download something, it's usually always 3G. What is up with that? And I'm in North Dallas if anyone on here has the Nexus S too with the same issue.
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Im also in Dallas, was wondering what your download and upload speeds were. I was getting close to 5/mbs down last month but now i get around 3/mbs. Have you noticed a difference?
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I laughed a little bit on the inside.
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kenvan19 said:
Better in that it has the highest rate of dropped calls?
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Whatever dudes...
Point was the OP is trying to figure out why his friends modded Captivate gets an H signal on AT&T and his unmodded NS doesn't in the same location with TMobile - you can't compare two phones on two networks and derive anything meaningful about the proper functioning of one of them in regards to gettting HSPA or not.
As to the snide AT&T bashing, again, whatever... In the areas of Los Angeles, Southern California, Arizona and Nevada that I personally frequent, AT&T provides much better service. YMMV may vary, obviously. It's all about where you're at for all of the networks.
For me, if I'm going someplace and I know I HAVE TO have a signal to make a call, you can bet I'm taking my AT&T phone with me because I am certain to find more dead zones with TMo than I do on AT&T. AT&T may drop calls, but at least it can make them in places TMo can't, like inside a building.
But you didn't really want to turn this into a back and forth on AT&T vs TMo did you?
Get it all the time .. ...when its turned on
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distortedloop said:
Whatever dudes...
Point was the OP is trying to figure out why his friends modded Captivate gets an H signal on AT&T and his unmodded NS doesn't in the same location with TMobile - you can't compare two phones on two networks and derive anything meaningful about the proper functioning of one of them in regards to gettting HSPA or not.
As to the snide AT&T bashing, again, whatever... In the areas of Los Angeles, Southern California, Arizona and Nevada that I personally frequent, AT&T provides much better service. YMMV may vary, obviously. It's all about where you're at for all of the networks.
For me, if I'm going someplace and I know I HAVE TO have a signal to make a call, you can bet I'm taking my AT&T phone with me because I am certain to find more dead zones with TMo than I do on AT&T. AT&T may drop calls, but at least it can make them in places TMo can't, like inside a building.
But you didn't really want to turn this into a back and forth on AT&T vs TMo did you?
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keyword modded. the OP didn't specify what ROM the person was using because I know for the SGS based phones there is a mod available that replaces the 3G icon (regardless of UMTS or HSDPA) to 4G or H depending on the mod.
its easy to fake something on Android, its just as easy as manipulating your Android version or making 2.2.X looking like Gingerbread.
And hell.. look on Engadget on the Inspire 4G review. This supposedly AT&T 4G phone's speeds compared to T-Mobile's HSDPA (3.5G) are just a joke.
Especially when HSUPA is disabled on the Inspire 4G. AT&T just doesn't respect the Android OS, all they simply do is cripple the phone.
- Disabling "unknown source" apps from being installed. Yeah, yeah.. we can hack it and enable it again. But for the average user, it isn't happening.
- Now.. HSUPA
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/
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This is supposedly AT&T's "4G" Network.
http://www.att.com/network/?wtSlotClick=1-004P16!CIHPM01V1-1-1&rel=nofollow#fbid=_Fse7JSTH-U
Not all 4G is created equal. AT&T is the only carrier that will offer two layers of network technology that deliver 4G speeds: HSPA+ and LTE. Our HSPA+ network, combined with enhanced backhaul, is capable of speeds up to 4x faster than AT&T's already fast mobile broadband speeds. And we'll be evolving to even higher speeds with the rollout of our LTE network.
Why does that matter? You'll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
-From AT&T's 4G page
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vs. Nexus S' 3.5G (HSDPA)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/6
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Why does that matter? You'll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
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zephiK said:
keyword modded. the OP didn't specify what ROM the person was using because I know for the SGS based phones there is a mod available that replaces the 3G icon (regardless of UMTS or HSDPA) to 4G or H depending on the mod.
its easy to fake something on Android, its just as easy as manipulating your Android version or making 2.2.X looking like Gingerbread.
And hell.. look on Engadget on the Inspire 4G review. This supposedly AT&T 4G phone's speeds compared to T-Mobile's HSDPA (3.5G) are just a joke.
Especially when HSUPA is disabled on the Inspire 4G. AT&T just doesn't respect the Android OS, all they simply do is cripple the phone.
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This is supposedly AT&T's "4G" Network.
vs. Nexus S' 3.5G (HSDPA)
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Huh?
What does the Inspire have to do with this? What does AT&T's "4G" network have to do with it? We're talking about the current HSPA network because that's all either the Captivate or Nexus S which were being compared support. I'm also confused about why you posted a comparison of two different TMobile phones, one a "4G" phone and the other not a "4g" phone and their speedtest results.
The comment I responded to said his Nexus S doesn't get HSPA in Dallas when his friend's Captivate does. It's very plausible to me that his friend's getting HSPA service and he's not. In my experience, with my AT&T Galaxy S phone sitting next to my TMo Nexus S, the AT&T phone will routinely be on 5 bars of voice signal and have a full speed (4Mb/s) data connection available to me while the Nexus S on TMo is 0 bars of voice and EDGE data if anything at all. Even when on HSPA connection, the Nexus S can't pull more than 3Mb/s around here, so AT&T beats them in speed as well as coverage. I have active SIMS in both phones and often have them side by side. Based on my experience it seems perfectly reasonable to believe that other areas are the same.
The Galaxy S phones support HSPA up to 7.2mb/s...same as the Nexus S. Whatever a modded phone displays for that connection is irrelevant to what I said, which was, in my opinion, that AT&T has a better network. Here in Los Angeles, it covers more square miles than TMo, it penetrates buildings with full bars and 3G/HSPA speeds when TMo can't even push GSM voice or EDGE data into the same building and it doesn't drop calls any more frequently than TMo does.
Which brings me back to my original point to the author of that comment: I'm not sure what he thinks comparing the signal indicator on his NS to his friend's Captivate is actually revealing. He's got two different phones on two different networks and both are obviously modded in some manner; the only clear conclusion to me is that unless he's screwed up his NS somehow, his friend's got better reception because it's a better network in their area. I suspect this is commonplace across the major metros around the country.

Switching between UMTS and HSPA bug

An almost identical topic already exists in HTC One S section (Radio UMTS/HSPA switching bug (3g/4g)), but I was thinking that maybe there is a different possible fix for Blaze 4G.
I am currently on the AT&T network using Straight Talk SIM. On the status bar it displays 3G with enough bars, but from time to time it stops receiving data in the middle of the transaction. When it happens, the mobile network type is shown as UMTS under "About phone" -> "Status". When it switches back to HSPA, the data resumes. It really messes up my browsing a lot
When I was still on T-Mobile, it did not seem to happen, as the connection was either "4G" or E (mobile network types HSPA+ or EDGE, respectively). I never noticed UMTS in the phone status while using T-Mobile.
One of the reasons I chose Blaze 4G is because it supports both AWS and 1900 bands, so it can work on AT&T and T-Mobile networks. As we know, T-Mobile coverage is not great, so the connection often switched from "4G" to edge. Being on AT&T, the connection firmly stays on 3G, but now I have this annoying bug.
Your input and suggestions would be highly appreciated! By the way, I am using a stock ROM with root.
I have had the same issue with my GS3 as well as my S2 and Sensation, all on T-Mobile. It is something I've noticed. Another thing I noticed, that is shady on T-Mobile's end, is that they show "4G" even if it is on UMTS.
RevenG said:
I have had the same issue with my GS3 as well as my S2 and Sensation, all on T-Mobile. It is something I've noticed. Another thing I noticed, that is shady on T-Mobile's end, is that they show "4G" even if it is on UMTS.
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Blaze only has 4g, E, and G, while on T-Mobile that's why it displays 4g while in umts, Umts is 3g and since there is no 3g icon it shows as 4g, hspa+ is "4g"
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RevenG said:
I have had the same issue with my GS3 as well as my S2 and Sensation, all on T-Mobile. It is something I've noticed. Another thing I noticed, that is shady on T-Mobile's end, is that they show "4G" even if it is on UMTS.
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Is that shady? UMTS Band IV (AWS) provides HSPA+ service. Looks like 1700MHz will be split 50/50 for GSM and H+ coverage, and teh 1900MHz will be split LTE/H+ by next year.
TMO said:
As part of its transition to deploy LTE on its 1700 MHz spectrum, T-Mobile will refarm its PCS spectrum to support both 2G GSM services and HSPA+ services. In a recent FCC filing, T-Mobile said by mid-2013, its expects half of its 1900 MHz spectrum to be devoted to GSM while the other half will run HSPA+ services, and that by then half of its AWS spectrum will support HSPA+ and the other half LTE.
Read more: T-Mobile to test HSPA+ in 1900 MHz for iPhone - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/t-mobile-test-hspa-1900-mhz-iphone/2012-06-08#ixzz24wzhoLRc
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/t-mobile-test-hspa-1900-mhz-iphone/2012-06-08
This chart also indicates that the AWS and PCS spectrums are both used for H+ communications. However, it is a tid bit simplified...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
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Have you tried flashing the other radio? I'm not sure which radio you're using, or if the other one will perform better. However, it does seem like your problem is being caused by the radio.
E107946 said:
An almost identical topic already exists in HTC One S section (Radio UMTS/HSPA switching bug (3g/4g)), but I was thinking that maybe there is a different possible fix for Blaze 4G.
I am currently on the AT&T network using Straight Talk SIM. On the status bar it displays 3G with enough bars, but from time to time it stops receiving data in the middle of the transaction. When it happens, the mobile network type is shown as UMTS under "About phone" -> "Status". When it switches back to HSPA, the data resumes. It really messes up my browsing a lot
When I was still on T-Mobile, it did not seem to happen, as the connection was either "4G" or E (mobile network types HSPA+ or EDGE, respectively). I never noticed UMTS in the phone status while using T-Mobile.
One of the reasons I chose Blaze 4G is because it supports both AWS and 1900 bands, so it can work on AT&T and T-Mobile networks. As we know, T-Mobile coverage is not great, so the connection often switched from "4G" to edge. Being on AT&T, the connection firmly stays on 3G, but now I have this annoying bug.
Your input and suggestions would be highly appreciated! By the way, I am using a stock ROM with root.
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Blaze only has 4g, E, and G, while on T-Mobile that's why it displays 4g while in umts, Umts is 3g and since there is no 3g icon it shows as 4g, hspa+ is "4g"
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Actually it does have a 3G icon smart guy
I never seen a 3g icon and I live in a 3g area. Smartguy
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I have only seen 4g and e, but never 3g
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I have been in a couple areas where it kept switching between 4g and 3g so don't assume there is no icon just because it has never been on your phone.
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If it happens again I will
For what it is worth, my unlocked Blaze 4G running on WIND Network in Canada (HSPA/HSPA+) only shows 3G icon and always says UMTS in Phone->Status, running UVLF4 radio.
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If it happens again I will
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theshowman said:
For what it is worth, my unlocked Blaze 4G running on WIND Network in Canada (HSPA/HSPA+) only shows 3G icon and always says UMTS in Phone->Status, running UVLF4 radio.
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Exactly so the phone is CAPABLE of showing 3G in the signal indication, mine is stock
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For what it is worth, my unlocked Blaze 4G running on WIND Network in Canada (HSPA/HSPA+) only shows 3G icon and always says UMTS in Phone->Status, running UVLF4 radio.
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I did say "on T-Mobile" I have no doubts it'll show 3g on unlocked or another sim but as I say I live in a 3g area my phone shows umts with 4g icon
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And here is the screenshot to prove, happened to me today at the gym. Stock everything as well.
Have you tried flashing the other radio? I'm not sure which radio you're using, or if the other one will perform better. However, it does seem like your problem is being caused by the radio.
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I am using a stock radio because it supports both 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz bands (Tmo and AT&T) - that is why I bought this phone in the first place. I am not sure there are other radios around for my phone, and even if there are, I am not sure what benefit I would get from flashing a non-stock radio. Very few phones support bands for both GSM providers in the USA; usually, it is either Tmo or AT&T.
On a another note: I got a Tmo SIM card from Straight Talk, and now I do not have this UMTS switching bug. The coverage is a bit worse, but where I have HSPA+, it is still 2-3 times faster than what I got from AT&T HSPA network.
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And here is the screenshot to prove, happened to me today at the gym. Stock everything as well.
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It is not surprising, as T-mobile is rolling out HSPA+ on 1900 MHz band. It will be happening more in the future as more areas will be re-farmed. Since there are only few T-mobile phones that can support 1900 MHz, other users will not see it happen. On the other hand, those few with iPhones on T-mobile network can finally see 3G.
What puzzles me is why it shows 3G instead of "4G" on 1900 MHz band right now? Do they need to upgrade this band to HSPA+ during re-farming?
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Actually it does have a 3G icon smart guy
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Yep, it absolutely does on dark knight build 8.
Oh you guys are talking about ...stock..?
Yeah no 3g icon on stock as T-Mo views all 3g as 4g now. There's no 3g icon on ANY 4g T-Mo phone's stock rom (with a T-Mo sim card). It is how they claimed to have the 'largest 4g network' during that ad campaign. Funny how T-Mo no longer claims that (or is no longer allowed to claim that)....
Here where I live I only have 3g. I have verified this using speedtest where I have never had more than 1.7 down/ 400 up. In Minneapolis I know there's 4g service as I have had speeds as high as 11 down / 2 up and average 8 down 1.5 up. All 3 of those statements are confirmed using Dark Knight build 8 as I have a 3g icon here at home and a 4g icon when I am in Minneapolis. The whole drive to Minneapolis showed '4g' on my wife's Sensation 4G. No, I am completely positive there's no 3g icon in the stock rom for any newer T-Mo 4g phone. If there is a 3g icon on any 4g t-mo phone (using T-Mo service), by all means educate me.
There obviously is a 3G icon as in the screenshot i posted. This rarely happens in the specific area I am in a lot (Gym) but my phone is totally stock and always shows 4G everywhere else. Let the screenshot educate you...
myorks1127 said:
There obviously is a 3G icon as in the screenshot i posted. This rarely happens in the specific area I am in a lot (Gym) but my phone is totally stock and always shows 4G everywhere else. Let the screenshot educate you...
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Are you using a T-Mo sim with T-Mo service?
Yes T-Mobile everything, everything stock never rooted yet. BTW I went to st.cloud state for my first year of college, small world

N5 chooses hspa+ over LTE ??

This is my first time with LTE phone and it seems like at times I have to go into mobile networks and select 3g then select LTE again for the LTE symbol to pop up? I'm on straight talk and just didn't know if this was normal or if the phone will select hspa signal if its better than the LTE signal ?
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i think by default it will when idle fall back to the strongest network cause it saves battery.
but when you need data it will attempt to switch to the fastest available.
cant say for sure but this is what appears to happen on all my phones falls back to 3g and when data is needed it shifts to HSPA+
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This is my first time with LTE phone and it seems like at times I have to go into mobile networks and select 3g then select LTE again for the LTE symbol to pop up? I'm on straight talk and just didn't know if this was normal or if the phone will select hspa signal if its better than the LTE signal ?
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I'm getting the same behavior on T-Mobile. My Nexus 4, which was never intended to have its LTE radio used, would stay on LTE, come hell or high water, while I'm in the city and fight to keep it as I left. The Nexus 5 seems picky about it's LTE and only uses it if it deems it good enough. If LTE gets 2 bars or lower, it goes back to HSPA. If you force "LTE only" under the secret dialer menu, it will use its LTE, but when you switch it back to LTE/GSM (PRL), it drops LTE and uses HSPA+. I'm like, "The hell is your problem, your highness?"
I had high hopes driving into work today. I was expecting it to get on LTE much sooner, but it didn't switch until I was deep within the city until I entered the parking structure (which my N4 would still have LTE). While I sit here at work, it refuses to switch to LTE while in the building where my N4, in the same spot, would be happily on LTE.
I just don't get it. I thought LTE would be much better on this device, instead it is worse. I feel like this is a bug of some sort. We are in an age where carriers will begin shutting down their legacy networks (of course, T-Mo is nowhere near as ready), and this phone treats LTE like Sprint WiMax!
Not sure about straight talk but I'm in lte with att if I'm in a lte area.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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Just took mine right out the box and as it booted it went right into LTE.
On tmboile.
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I suppose I should re-flash my phone then. It's just silly how my phone keeps preferring HSPA+ over LTE. When I had LTE enabled on my Nexus 4, my battery life really didn't change. I suppose it had, but it wasn't perceptible to me.
I've had really good luck with it connecting to an LTE network when inside of a LTE area.
However this morning I was streaming from soundcloud while driving and I was 10 minutes into the city with LTE coverage and it would switch. As soon as I ran speedtest it switched. So I believe what was said up above to be true. It needs a good reason probably too switch if your current network mode is doing fine for your current data needs/battery.
I did read this phone is using Qualcomm s news LTE chip which saves power. That could probably play a role.
Either way I'm totally fine with it because it responded to my need of a lot of data instantly by switching to LTE when I ran speed test.
So hey if it saves me battery and h+ is enough for streaming from soundcloud I'm not going to argue with it.
Hold this helps.
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Couple of things to keep in mind.
One, your phone will say 3g when not using LTE or HSPA+. This is to save battery, it only shows LTE or H when you are downloading something, or loading a webpage.
Secondly, I have noticed my phone will choose a strong HSPA+ signal over a weak LTE signal. At home, I have a solid LTE connection, so it always says LTE, but at work it switches back and forth from 1 bar of LTE to full bars of HSPA+. Speed wise, they are still comparable, at around 5-6mb/s. At home though, my LTE is around 40mb/s.
Hope this helps.
ArkAngel06 said:
Couple of things to keep in mind.
One, your phone will say 3g when not using LTE or HSPA+. This is to save battery, it only shows LTE or H when you are downloading something, or loading a webpage.
Secondly, I have noticed my phone will choose a strong HSPA+ signal over a weak LTE signal. At home, I have a solid LTE connection, so it always says LTE, but at work it switches back and forth from 1 bar of LTE to full bars of HSPA+. Speed wise, they are still comparable, at around 5-6mb/s. At home though, my LTE is around 40mb/s.
Hope this helps.
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So, my Nexus 4 keeping its LTE active all the time except for when making/receiving calls was a "bug" of the hacked radio then? I'm not being sarcastic, I just never owned a true LTE phone before, but my friend who has a Nexus 5 says his LTE has been staying on. It really doesn't make sense for LTE to behave this way as it will replace the legacy networks at some point in the future in which you won't have anything else to fall back to.
Oddly, I haven't noticed this at all. I'm on t-mobile, and my nexus 5 defaults to LTE when I have LTE selected as preferred connection. It doesn't switch to 3g during dormancy as far as I can tell (when I turn the screen back on, its already on LTE).
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I'm getting the same behavior on T-Mobile. My Nexus 4, which was never intended to have its LTE radio used, would stay on LTE, come hell or high water, while I'm in the city and fight to keep it as I left. The Nexus 5 seems picky about it's LTE and only uses it if it deems it good enough. If LTE gets 2 bars or lower, it goes back to HSPA. If you force "LTE only" under the secret dialer menu, it will use its LTE, but when you switch it back to LTE/GSM (PRL), it drops LTE and uses HSPA+. I'm like, "The hell is your problem, your highness?"
I had high hopes driving into work today. I was expecting it to get on LTE much sooner, but it didn't switch until I was deep within the city until I entered the parking structure (which my N4 would still have LTE). While I sit here at work, it refuses to switch to LTE while in the building where my N4, in the same spot, would be happily on LTE.
I just don't get it. I thought LTE would be much better on this device, instead it is worse. I feel like this is a bug of some sort. We are in an age where carriers will begin shutting down their legacy networks (of course, T-Mo is nowhere near as ready), and this phone treats LTE like Sprint WiMax!
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If you don't mind, would you share how to force LTE only under the secret dialer menu?
Thanks.
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I think I found it with the code *#*#4636*#*# -> phone information -> set preferred network type: LTE only
When I do this and reboot, my bars just disappear, and my APN in my mobile network settings disappears too. I'm using net10.
Anybody know a fix to this?
Megiddo2000 said:
If you don't mind, would you share how to force LTE only under the secret dialer menu?
Thanks.
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I think I found it with the code *#*#4636*#*# -> phone information -> set preferred network type: LTE only
When I do this and reboot, my bars just disappear, and my APN in my mobile network settings disappears too. I'm using net10.
Anybody know a fix to this?
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I don't have to reboot, myself. When I force LTE only, the phone drops HSPA and goes to LTE.
I'd say put it back to GSM/LTE Only (PRL) and then reset your APN settings.
dijit4l said:
I don't have to reboot, myself. When I force LTE only, the phone drops HSPA and goes to LTE.
I'd say put it back to GSM/LTE Only (PRL) and then reset your APN settings.
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when i try dialing that number it says "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
What's wrong?
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when i try dialing that number it says "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
What's wrong?
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woops, my bad. the code is:
*#*#4636#*#*
(forgot to flip the hashtag asterik in the back)

[Q] Nexus 5 LTE & HSPA

Hello everyone,
Just got my Nexus 5 with carrier AT&T and got my LTE activated using the IMEI that came with the N5 and everything works great. Just a quick question regarding the icons that are shown depending on which network you are on. When on LTE it will show LTE above the signal bar. When not on an LTE band it will switch over to H. My understanding is that the H stands for HSPA+. Would this be the equivalent of 4G? I was under the assumption that the H was basically 3G. I also thought then when using LTE it is considered LTE/4G, so wouldn't the LTE switch to a 4G symbol, or does the Nexus 5 not have this and that would be what the H is referencing.
Thank you.
H is hspa+ which is faster than 3g but not as fast as lte. I am usually on H+ or lte. I rarely get the 3g symbol on AT&T. I also found that H+ is almost as fast as Verizon LTE. I think it is due to do many devices on their network.
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jm700wx said:
H is hspa+ which is faster than 3g but not as fast as lte. I am usually on H+ or lte. I rarely get the 3g symbol on AT&T. I also found that H+ is almost as fast as Verizon LTE. I think it is due to do many devices on their network.
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Thanks, so basically you won't get the 4G symbol on the Nexus 5 using AT&T? Mainly what happens is i'm on LTE, then when I make a phone call it switches to H (HSPA+). I thought AT&T is able to do voice calls over a 4G network. I may be wrong.
celphtitle said:
Thanks, so basically you won't get the 4G symbol on the Nexus 5 using AT&T? Mainly what happens is i'm on LTE, then when I make a phone call it switches to H (HSPA+). I thought AT&T is able to do voice calls over a 4G network. I may be wrong.
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You may have to manually add in AT&T's LTE apn (which you can find with a quick google search) if your phone doesn't automatically pick it up. Also make sure your SIM card has been provisioned to work with the LTE bands (use with another 4G phone ex. S3, HTC One)
k3anan said:
You may have to manually add in AT&T's LTE apn (which you can find with a quick google search) if your phone doesn't automatically pick it up. Also make sure your SIM card has been provisioned to work with the LTE bands (use with another 4G phone ex. S3, HTC One)
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Well I get LTE, I just don't get 4G. I figured the phone doesn't show a 4G icon, but if it does, then I'll check my sim in another device.
Google just changed the "4G" icon to "LTE". On jelly bean, LTE would show "4G" if you had the hybrid N4 radio flashed. hspa+ has always shown "H" on the stock ROM. Some custom ROMs have you the "H+" symbol though.
As for voice calls on at&t, they go over their hspa+ network, at&t uses their LTE for data only at this time. BTW, at&t considers their hspa+ to be "4G".
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gotzaDroid said:
Google just changed the "4G" icon to "LTE". On jelly bean, LTE would show "4G" if you had the hybrid N4 radio flashed. hspa+ has always shown "H" on the stock ROM. Some custom ROMs have you the "H+" symbol though.
As for voice calls on at&t, they go over their hspa+ network, at&t uses their LTE for data only at this time. BTW, at&t considers their hspa+ to be "4G".
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Awesome, exactly the answer I was looking for. So I am good to go then, I see the LTE icon, and H when making voice calls.
Thank you very much.
celphtitle said:
Well I get LTE, I just don't get 4G. I figured the phone doesn't show a 4G icon, but if it does, then I'll check my sim in another device.
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4G and LTE are the same thing. LTE is a denotation of the network standard just like 3G is EDGE. If you're getting LTE above the signal indicator you are on the 4G network.
EDIT: gotzaDroid explained it much better than I did.
k3anan said:
4G and LTE are the same thing. LTE is a denotation of the network standard just like 3G is EDGE. If you're getting LTE above the signal indicator you are on the 4G network.
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yea my concern was that when I would make a phone call, the LTE would switch to H. I didn't know that H was basically AT&T's "4G".
celphtitle said:
yea my concern was that when I would make a phone call, the LTE would switch to H. I didn't know that H was basically AT&T's "4G".
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Yeah, it is the same on T-Mobile. When they refer to 4G, they are referring to HSPA+ (or H). I like to call AT&T and T-Mobile's 4G, fauxG since it is really just an improvement upon 3G. I don't know who shot first, but I wish the marketing teams would have called it 3G+ or something instead of lying to everyone or at least referred to LTE as 5G. So now everyone has 4G and 4G LTE and really LTE deserves more as it isn't a hack job to get more speed. It will replace all the legacy networks and even eventually be used for voice transmission.
Yes it switches because they're currently you cannot surf the web while being on a phone call with LTE, so it auto switches to hspa+ so you can surf the web while talking
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Yeah, it is the same on T-Mobile. When they refer to 4G, they are referring to HSPA+ (or H). I like to call AT&T and T-Mobile's 4G, fauxG since it is really just an improvement upon 3G. I don't know who shot first, but I wish the marketing teams would have called it 3G+ or something instead of lying to everyone or at least referred to LTE as 5G. So now everyone has 4G and 4G LTE and really LTE deserves more as it isn't a hack job to get more speed. It will replace all the legacy networks and even eventually be used for voice transmission.
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It's no big deal. I considered HSPA+ more or less 3G+ anyway. All is well, you guys are great help. Got my phone unlocked the bootloader and set everything up, got my LTE (which I did not get with the nexus 4). Time to play around with the phone some more now.
I have had my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I have noticed quite a difference in reception between lte and hspa on T-Mobile. I will have lte marked and have one maybe two bars. Then I switched to hspa and then my bars went all the way up. Why is this?
dijit4l said:
Yeah, it is the same on T-Mobile. When they refer to 4G, they are referring to HSPA+ (or H). I like to call AT&T and T-Mobile's 4G, fauxG since it is really just an improvement upon 3G. I don't know who shot first, but I wish the marketing teams would have called it 3G+ or something instead of lying to everyone or at least referred to LTE as 5G. So now everyone has 4G and 4G LTE and really LTE deserves more as it isn't a hack job to get more speed. It will replace all the legacy networks and even eventually be used for voice transmission.
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You realize LTE is also not REALLY 4G...
4G is a communications standard, that currently no one meets. In fact, many people report that T-Mobile HSPA+ is faster than Verizon LTE in their areas. Of course, now AT&T and T-Mobile both offer LTE and HSPA+. Which puts them above Verizon in my eyes, because when LTE goes out, you have HSPA to fall back on.
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Google just changed the "4G" icon to "LTE". On jelly bean, LTE would show "4G" if you had the hybrid N4 radio flashed. hspa+ has always shown "H" on the stock ROM. Some custom ROMs have you the "H+" symbol though.
As for voice calls on at&t, they go over their hspa+ network, at&t uses their LTE for data only at this time. BTW, at&t considers their hspa+ to be "4G".
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I'm with Australian network provider Telstra, and my phone shows 4G all the time(regardless whether it is transmitting data or not) when I'm in 4G coverage, 3G when I'm not in coverage and not having data acativity and H when it is transmitting data. Do you think it is the different device model and/or the network provider contributed to the difference between mine and what you guys have in the State?
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I'm with Australian network provider Telstra, and my phone shows 4G all the time(regardless whether it is transmitting data or not) when I'm in 4G coverage, 3G when I'm not in coverage and not having data acativity and H when it is transmitting data. Do you think it is the different device model and/or the network provider contributed to the difference between mine and what you guys have in the State?
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It wouldn't surprise me that the North American 820 model had the "LTE"symbol cooked in at the request of service providers here.
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Simer03 said:
Yes it switches because they're currently you cannot surf the web while being on a phone call with LTE, so it auto switches to hspa+ so you can surf the web while talking
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This confuses me. Can't the nexus 5 use both at the same time? You're getting text messages over HSPA(+) with LTE on.
I'm still puzzled why when I make a call why LTE goes away and HSPA+ shows up. This is on T-Mobile.
phoneman09 said:
I have had my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I have noticed quite a difference in reception between lte and hspa on T-Mobile. I will have lte marked and have one maybe two bars. Then I switched to hspa and then my bars went all the way up. Why is this?
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Well, I have some good news to report. I was having the same issue as you and really getting down about it. I went to my nearest T-Mobile store and told them of my situation. The rep called tech support and he did some sort of reset to my account, I am not sure what exactly. I also asked if I could get a new SIM. I was given that new ISIS SIM and as soon as my phone fired up, it started using LTE. After I left the store, from being in my pocket, it was on HSPA for a few moments and then it finally chose LTE and stuck with LTE the entire time I was within its coverage. I am really happy with my phone now, it now behaves like my hacked Nexus 4 on LTE did.
jm700wx said:
H is hspa+ which is faster than 3g but not as fast as lte. I am usually on H+ or lte. I rarely get the 3g symbol on AT&T. I also found that H+ is almost as fast as Verizon LTE. I think it is due to do many devices on their network.
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This isn't *entirely* true.
You'll see the LTE symbol when you're on LTE, that's easy.
You'll see the H when you're on HSPA or HSPA+, which means you'll see it when you're on the network that old phones used to just call 3G.
The other symbols are specifically for Edge. I know it doesn't seem like it, since one is a 3G symbol, but do a speedtest and you'll see it. Modern phones display things poorly for connections because of the differentiation of HSPA and HSPA+. It's obnoxious.
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Zandeer said:
You realize LTE is also not REALLY 4G...
4G is a communications standard, that currently no one meets. In fact, many people report that T-Mobile HSPA+ is faster than Verizon LTE in their areas. Of course, now AT&T and T-Mobile both offer LTE and HSPA+. Which puts them above Verizon in my eyes, because when LTE goes out, you have HSPA to fall back on.
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Actually, that's not correct.
ITU-R said:
On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies, as well as other beyond-3G technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions and "a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed".
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LTE, and even HSPA+, are considered 4G.
As for the 'Why does it switch from LTE to HSPA+ when I make a call?' question, LTE does not support standard switch-based telephony, meaning you cannot make voice calls using the network. Some carriers (I think Verizon is ahead, but I don't remember) are going to be supporting VoIP soon (voice over IP), which allows calls to be made using the LTE network, but they're all data-based (think Skype). As such, current phones will switch to HSPA+ or CDMA to make the phone call and then switch back once it's done.
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As for the 'Why does it switch from LTE to HSPA+ when I make a call?' question, LTE does not support standard switch-based telephony, meaning you cannot make voice calls using the network. Some carriers (I think Verizon is ahead, but I don't remember) are going to be supporting VoIP soon (voice over IP), which allows calls to be made using the LTE network, but they're all data-based (think Skype). As such, current phones will switch to HSPA+ or CDMA to make the phone call and then switch back once it's done.
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That's not really accurate. Verizon's newer phones (Galaxy S3 for example) will let you call while on LTE. That's why I'm having such a hard time understanding why the N5 won't let LTE stay on while making a call. Doesn't it have a radio for data (LTE) and and radio for voice? Seems like both should be working in parallel like on VZ.

Weak LTE signal

I have the Google Nexus 5 and in the Dallas, TX area I'm seeing VERY weak LTE signals. Inside buildings, connectivity is completely cut off (no bars). Outside is better, but I can literally wrap both my hands and cover my phone and it kills the signal completely.
I tried various APN changes I found on Google and XDA but nothing helps. Anyone having this problem? I swapped to AT&T prepaid in the meantime and signals are absolutely fantastic. However I have problems with T-mobile connectivity on this phone no matter where I go in the metroplex.
I'll just guess and say T-Mobile suck in your area
Android.Addiction said:
I have the Google Nexus 5 and in the Dallas, TX area I'm seeing VERY weak LTE signals. Inside buildings, connectivity is completely cut off (no bars). Outside is better, but I can literally wrap both my hands and cover my phone and it kills the signal completely.
I tried various APN changes I found on Google and XDA but nothing helps. Anyone having this problem? I swapped to AT&T prepaid in the meantime and signals are absolutely fantastic. However I have problems with T-mobile connectivity on this phone no matter where I go in the metroplex.
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Download an app on the google play store called Signal Check and report to me your DBM in LTE
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How old is your T-Mobile LTE market for Maui LTE just lit up 3 weeks ago and there still tweaking it so far they replaced only 2 panels on their sites I assume testing. Because I get five bars of hspa+ but LTE is one bar and hspa is serving from the same cell site as LTE
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Download an app on the google play store called Signal Check and report to me your DBM in LTE
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How old is your T-Mobile LTE market for Maui LTE just lit up 3 weeks ago and there still tweaking it so far they replaced only 2 panels on their sites I assume testing. Because I get five bars of hspa+ but LTE is one bar and hspa is serving from the same cell site as LTE
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Attached.
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You do have a weaker LTE signal, try going settings, more, mobile networks, preferred network type
select 3G, report the dbm
Here's mine
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Here's mine
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excellent results!
I did as you asked and it would rapidly swap between three different connection modes. I have attached corresponding screenshots.
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Android.Addiction said:
I have the Google Nexus 5 and in the Dallas, TX area I'm seeing VERY weak LTE signals. Inside buildings, connectivity is completely cut off (no bars). Outside is better, but I can literally wrap both my hands and cover my phone and it kills the signal completely.
I tried various APN changes I found on Google and XDA but nothing helps. Anyone having this problem? I swapped to AT&T prepaid in the meantime and signals are absolutely fantastic. However I have problems with T-mobile connectivity on this phone no matter where I go in the metroplex.
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Very weak in Frisco area, just use 3G instead of LTE, if you don't really need the speed.
I have the same issue, LTE is bad, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?
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I have the same issue, LTE has low signal, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?
mr.r9 said:
I have the same issue, LTE is bad, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?
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I have the same issue, LTE has low signal, but then the phone all by itself jumps to 3G and I loose the signal for 5/10 seconds while it's changing.
Why is that? Is it because of the modem or because of the infrastructure?
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its the Modem the modem wants you to have network that has the best signal, it doesn't care about your data speed. i have a 1 bar LTE connection in my home often times it switches to edge/2g to save battery since its got a higher signal strength
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Android.Addiction said:
I did as you asked and it would rapidly swap between three different connection modes. I have attached corresponding screenshots.
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They're still tweaking the LTE
it seems as the LTE signal is coming from a sector where you picked up LTE
the other cells sites where you picked up W-CDMA and HSDPA has not been upgraded to LTE just yet
Compare your speeds with 3G and LTE often times they're similar so i just leave it on 3G for now for the better signal
markdapimp said:
its the Modem the modem wants you to have network that has the best signal, it doesn't care about your data speed. i have a 1 bar LTE connection in my home often times it switches to edge/2g to save battery since its got a higher signal strength
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They're still tweaking the LTE
it seems as the LTE signal is coming from a sector where you picked up LTE
the other cells sites where you picked up W-CDMA and HSDPA has not been upgraded to LTE just yet
Compare your speeds with 3G and LTE often times they're similar so i just leave it on 3G for now for the better signal
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I've been using AT&T for a while now because of this issue and their LTE signals are really really strong. Not sure why I should swap back to T-Mobile. Pricing about the same too.
Android.Addiction said:
I've been using AT&T for a while now because of this issue and their LTE signals are really really strong. Not sure why I should swap back to T-Mobile. Pricing about the same too.
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AT&T has a lower end spectrum witch allows for building penetration and more propagation across land
Where as T-Mobile has 2100Mhz for LTE which is similar to WiFI frequency wise
Sprint is starting sprint 'Spark' which is 2500Mhz *Clearwire spectrum* which is horrible for indoor penetration thats why they have 800Mhz LTE
and T-Mobile has that 700Mhz lte they bought from Verizon (Perhaps we will see compatibility in nexus 6?)
Anyways if you don't go overseas alot where Data is free with T-Mobile might aswell go get AT&T but if you like Unlimited Data and T-Mobile's offering for it look into AIO-Wireless which uses AT&T's Network and provides High speed access for 2.5GB or so and throttled after that but its still unlimited data
Nice info but I don't see what good t-mobile is if I can't even enable LTE
Honestly I prefer T-Mobile but it's just not as good coverage.
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Nice info but I don't see what good t-mobile is if I can't even enable LTE
Honestly I prefer T-Mobile but it's just not as good coverage.
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i would wait for a couple months let them settle it down, else if you can call into T-Mobile and they can adjust the downtilt of the LTE panels on the cell tower which sends more of the signal downwards where as before it was horizontal, giving you a better signal or else if they're still in the testing phase and are waiting for more backhaul to improve the speeds
If you call in though dont tell them about the downtilt stuff they have no idea what is that just say you have like 1 Bar LTE and like 3 bars HSPA+, personally i like T-Mobile and i support them in everyway to keep them in business (like right now) because i love the concept of Uncarrier and that we the people should pay for the network and not the device and network After the Contract.
Think of AT&T and Verizon like this the Signal is consistent but the speed is no more faster than a clogged toilet flushing
T-Mobile may have less bars but the speed is like 20 times faster
I found these results surprising!
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I found these results surprising!
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Yeah LTE has the lower signal quality so its expected but NICE
we never pass that 11Mbps mark in hawaii, we have like no bandwidth here in all carriers
markdapimp said:
Yeah LTE has the lower signal quality so its expected but NICE
we never pass that 11Mbps mark in hawaii, we have like no bandwidth here in all carriers
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Thanks a bunch for all of your help & encouragement. I'm gonna stay with T-Mobile because I like the idea of supporting them for other reasons (I do the same for Netflix, even though I don't find their movie selections that compelling).
With 3G enabled things are pretty solid, although I didn't compare to AT&T LTE speeds. What would be nice is if the device could be configured to swap to LTE only for strong signals, versus having to constantly flip the preferred network manually between 3G/LTE.
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Thanks a bunch for all of your help & encouragement. I'm gonna stay with T-Mobile because I like the idea of supporting them for other reasons (I do the same for Netflix, even though I don't find their movie selections that compelling).
With 3G enabled things are pretty solid, although I didn't compare to AT&T LTE speeds. What would be nice is if the device could be configured to swap to LTE only for strong signals, versus having to constantly flip the preferred network manually between 3G/LTE.
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wait a couple weeks the devs may be able to force LTE like how Verizon on the Galaxy s3 forces LTE no matter what even theres a strong 3G signal and a 1 bar LTE signal.
also one thing to note is H is HSPA/HSPA+
the 3G you see is Refarmed 1900Mhz PCS
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update (T-Mobiles Attempt to remove edge/2G in certain places and convert edge to 3G/HSPA) that (850 MHz and 1900 MHz) would be really good indoors
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its the Modem the modem wants you to have network that has the best signal, it doesn't care about your data speed. i have a 1 bar LTE connection in my home often times it switches to edge/2g to save battery since its got a higher signal strength
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I know why it switches, but my question is why does it the network turn off for 5-10 seconds when switching from LTE to 3G/2G?
My speeds with LTE are excellent, I didn't expect it to be this good (Qatar-Ooredoo [formally Qtel])
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