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Torn Between Sensation & Samung Hercules (Dual Core/4.5" SAMOLED+/1GB RAM)

As the title says, I can't decide whether I should keep my 1 week old sensation or return it and hope the Hercules comes out by the end of Septemer. In case anyone missed it, the Hercules is the dual-core version of the AT&T Infuge 4g. Here's the spec:
4.5-inch 480 x 800 Super AMOLED Plus display
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
NFC support
Category 24 HSDPA (42Mbps) and Category 6 HSUPA (5.76Mbps) for extremely fast HSPA+ support — faster than any HSPA+ phone currently sold in the US
AWS plus 850 / 1900MHz compatibility for support on AT&T’s “4G” network if the merger succeeds
16GB internal ROM, 1GB internal RAM, external microSD up to 32GB
Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual-core APQ8060 application processor
8 megapixel primary camera with flash and 1080p video capture, secondary front-facing camera
What do you guys think?
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I think you'll be forever playing the waiting game I do it too, don't worry...

I'll just sell my sensation when that comes out. And get it if it looks nice.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

gotzta said:
I think you'll be forever playing the waiting game I do it too, don't worry...
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LOL
I mean, seriously, this is the only thing holding me back from keeping my Sensation. I love the interface and all, but it has its disappointments: poor battery life, very low speaker sound, washed out display from angle, low ram. I am sure that the Hercules would be better in all aspects than the Sensation in those areas, judging by the Infuse 4g and Galaxy S2 reviews so far. I just love the form factor and display on the Hercules. Did I mention the ram!

gotzta said:
I think you'll be forever playing the waiting game I do it too, don't worry...
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+1 If you wait, by then they will be talking about the other phone just over the horizon. Almost played the waiting game when it came to my tablet. Getting the xoom, then selling it.. deciding to wait for the transformer, then thinking maybe waiting until the galaxy tab, if I had waited.. I'd still be waiting..

So true with any technology now adays.

Yeah I think the best way to go now days is to buy an sell...That way you get everything you want! Especially since it is so easy to sell things online through various means.

mike2518 said:
LOL
I mean, seriously, this is the only thing holding me back from keeping my Sensation. I love the interface and all, but it has its disappointments: poor battery life, very low speaker sound, washed out display from angle, low ram. I am sure that the Hercules would be better in all aspects than the Sensation in those areas, judging by the Infuse 4g and Galaxy S2 reviews so far. I just love the form factor and display on the Hercules. Did I mention the ram!
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Honestly battery life is going to be an issue with all dual core phones. My g2x had bad life as well (even after it got better) My mt4g had decent battery life. The phone tech is moving faster than the battery tech. I think battery life will continue to be an issue with any dual core phone until battery technology advances and is available to the Gen public
As far as ram, The G2x has 512 which concerned me coming from a MT4G that had 768 as well. I noticed NO difference performance wise.. Was my available ram lower? sure.. on my G2x I would only have 70-95 mb free, with my mt4g sometimes I had 250-300mb free, Dont really check on my sensation as often as my other devices though. Android is great at handling it's own memory. Someone once said, if you have 200-300 mb of free ram on a phone at ALL TIMES it's wasted ram and I agree. I mean yes more ram is good for opening many apps and running tasks but it even with all that going on you will still have free memory. Like I said I was REALLY worried going from the Mt4G to the g2x because of the ram but never noticed anything, no extra lag or anything like that.

graffixnyc said:
Honestly battery life is going to be an issue with all dual core phones. My g2x had bad life as well (even after it got better) My mt4g had decent battery life. The phone tech is moving faster than the battery tech. I think battery life will continue to be an issue with any dual core phone until battery technology advances and is available to the Gen public
As far as ram, The G2x has 512 which concerned me coming from a MT4G that had 768 as well. I noticed NO difference performance wise.. Was my available ram lower? sure.. on my G2x I would only have 70-95 mb free, with my mt4g sometimes I had 250-300mb free, Dont really check on my sensation as often as my other devices though. Android is great at handling it's own memory. Someone once said, if you have 200-300 mb of free ram on a phone at ALL TIMES it's wasted ram and I agree. I mean yes more ram is good for opening many apps and running tasks but it even with all that going on you will still have free memory. Like I said I was REALLY worried going from the Mt4G to the g2x because of the ram but never noticed anything, no extra lag or anything like that.
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Good info, I mean battery is not that bad, its just that I was expecting better, coming from a non-android(HD2) un-optimized device to the latest state of the art Sensation. But a battery is battery, and tech. on that front has kinda stalled, so I dont think its Sensation's fault entirely. Once custom roms and kernels come along, it will get definitely better.
As an example of battery life, I'll let you all be the judge: 14 Hours off the charger currently, 2 hours display was on, during which I browsed XDA app, took 6 pictures, 2 minute HD video, 4 minute phone, 8 minute GPS run. Currently its at 40% . What do you think?
edit: did i mention 2 complete reboots done on purpose during this time.

graffixnyc said:
Honestly battery life is going to be an issue with all dual core phones. My g2x had bad life as well (even after it got better) My mt4g had decent battery life. The phone tech is moving faster than the battery tech. I think battery life will continue to be an issue with any dual core phone until battery technology advances and is available to the Gen public
As far as ram, The G2x has 512 which concerned me coming from a MT4G that had 768 as well. I noticed NO difference performance wise.. Was my available ram lower? sure.. on my G2x I would only have 70-95 mb free, with my mt4g sometimes I had 250-300mb free, Dont really check on my sensation as often as my other devices though. Android is great at handling it's own memory. Someone once said, if you have 200-300 mb of free ram on a phone at ALL TIMES it's wasted ram and I agree. I mean yes more ram is good for opening many apps and running tasks but it even with all that going on you will still have free memory. Like I said I was REALLY worried going from the Mt4G to the g2x because of the ram but never noticed anything, no extra lag or anything like that.
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I thought dual cores actually help battery life...
my S4G hs better battery life then the old MT4G.
the Sensation has around 300mb Ram free most of the time(read from settings>app, not task manager)... so I guess it's wasted even at 768mb... lol
anyway, back on topic.
OP, you can play the waiting game or pick something and enjoy now.
the Hercules looks like a nice phone though.
good luck with your choice.

mike2518 said:
Good info, I mean battery is not that bad, its just that I was expecting better, coming from a non-android(HD2) un-optimized device to the latest state of the art Sensation. But a battery is battery, and tech. on that front has kinda stalled, so I dont think its Sensation's fault entirely. Once custom roms and kernels come along, it will get definitely better.
As an example of battery life, I'll let you all be the judge: 14 Hours off the charger currently, 2 hours display was on, during which I browsed XDA app, took 6 pictures, 2 minute HD video, 4 minute phone, 8 minute GPS run. Currently its at 40% . What do you think?
edit: did i mention 2 complete reboots done on purpose during this time.
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Honestly, I dont think that's TOO TOO bad. With my MT4G I would average around 16 hours a day (running cyanogen mod 7 and custom kernel overclocked)
If I get 14 hours out of a battery I'm pretty happy depending on how much I use it. The most I've seen from my Sensation is a little over 10 hours but that is constantly playing with it every few minuts even if it's just to turn the screen on and look at the pretty weather animation. lol
With my G2x I first got 6 hours of use!!! then it was 8, then it went up to about 10.. and after a few weeks it actually did last over 12 hours with moderate use.
Plus I leave everything on at all times, data, 4g, have gmail, 3 push emails accounts, two pop that check every hour, plus FB, twitter and weather updating data every hour
the only thing I toggle on and off is wifi when I'm out of wifi range

mike2518 said:
4.5-inch 480 x 800 Super AMOLED Plus display
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After a week with the Sensation, that right there is what makes me not want the Hercules. qHD or higher, no turning back now.

No qhd on a 4.5in screen. No thank you. Get the sensation, september is a long way. If I was to wait that long I would wait for the new nexus.
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sensation
I would keep the sensation hell its way better than any Samsung honestly. I say this under personal experience. HTC is always great with the build and the software on there phones and the only good thing for Samsung is the super AMOLED Plus displays.

whitefolks33 said:
I would keep the sensation hell its way better than any Samsung honestly. I say this under personal experience. HTC is always great with the build and the software on there phones and the only good thing for Samsung is the super AMOLED Plus displays.
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Indeed very true. I really love the build quality of the sensation. Samsung's design is kind of bland but I guess it's internals are where it really stands out.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

I have had the sensation almost a week and I am almost ready to return & wait till july when the Galaxy S II comes out!! All reviews put the SGS II way ahead of the Sensation. Hell my heavily Modded MT4G will smoke my stock Sensation Hands Down and it is running sense 3.0 allready.

Coming from a Samsung Vibrant, the build quality of the Sensation is leaps and bounds over the Vibrant, and most Samsung phones in general. qHD is awesome as well. I don't think traditional 800x480 will look good on a 4.5 inch display.
Although I do miss that AMOLED screen, I'm loving this phone and the 4G data.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

mike2518 said:
As the title says, I can't decide whether I should keep my 1 week old sensation or return it and hope the Hercules comes out by the end of Septemer. In case anyone missed it, the Hercules is the dual-core version of the AT&T Infuge 4g. Here's the spec:
4.5-inch 480 x 800 Super AMOLED Plus display
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
NFC support
Category 24 HSDPA (42Mbps) and Category 6 HSUPA (5.76Mbps) for extremely fast HSPA+ support — faster than any HSPA+ phone currently sold in the US
AWS plus 850 / 1900MHz compatibility for support on AT&T’s “4G” network if the merger succeeds
16GB internal ROM, 1GB internal RAM, external microSD up to 32GB
Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual-core APQ8060 application processor
8 megapixel primary camera with flash and 1080p video capture, secondary front-facing camera
What do you guys think?
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By the time the Hercules is released the Nexus Quadcore will be announced, and many many more phones for T-Mobile. If you play the waiting game you're gonna always be playing it Go for what you want if it fits in with what you need.

KillaHurtz said:
By the time the Hercules is released the Nexus Quadcore will be announced, and many many more phones for T-Mobile. If you play the waiting game you're gonna always be playing it Go for what you want if it fits in with what you need.
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What's hilarious is we have NEVER announced that this phone is actually coming. It's all internet here-say over a leaked road-map. That's not even the phone in that picture..Its a photo-shopped picture of the Infuse that one of those websites put up for pre-orders...Get the Sensation bro.
Nothing is ever etched in stone with T-Mo..If I work for T-Mo and im telling you that please just believe me bro..lol...Like a previous poster said, dual-core will be obsolete almost by the time this phone drops.
Roadmaps don't insure a release as things change internally..Don't do the waiting game..Just sell your Sensation and get what you want when it comes.

graffixnyc said:
+1 If you wait, by then they will be talking about the other phone just over the horizon. Almost played the waiting game when it came to my tablet. Getting the xoom, then selling it.. deciding to wait for the transformer, then thinking maybe waiting until the galaxy tab, if I had waited.. I'd still be waiting..
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Agreed. We all play the waiting game. Just 3 days after the Hercules comes out nvidia announces a quad core something or other with 2GB of memory. Looks like a great phone if you don't mind waiting a few months.

i have few question for z3 users

hello mates right now i have a htc one x and i really want to make it retired and leave it to my sister.
in my country iphone 6 is very expensive and with that specs for me its an waste of money, 6+ is very big , 6 is perfect for me but have something like 1800 mah or 1900 mah battery my hox already have 1800 mah and its a pain.
im stuck between z3, g3, and m8. z3 have superior specs than rivals and epic battery life which is very important for me. if you ask why? im using my htc one x nearly 2 years. with this months 21. day it will be complete 2 year. i never used my phone without power saving. getting into clash of clans and collecting the resources drains %10 of my battery.
right now i wanna ask you guys how is the z3? still it didnt released in my country (im from turkey,the land of great taxes) so i dont have any idea about phone. i just saw some pictures, watch reviews and read some specs thats it
my hox have a wifi problem which is a design fault edit: also i send my phone to the guarantee like 4th time because of wifi problem
did z3 have any problems? i heard about glass cracking problem but it only showed up 0.6% of the z3's
my head little bit mixed between this amiral ships.
for the m8 im really scaring about battery which is 2600 mah
but i really love its design. also im really get used to sense ui after sense z3's ui looks bit ugly
anyway if you guys can guide me i will be very happy

bullx said:
hello mates right now i have a htc one x and i really want to make it retired and leave it to my sister.
in my country iphone 6 is very expensive and with that specs for me its an waste of money, 6+ is very big , 6 is perfect for me but have something like 1800 mah or 1900 mah battery my hox already have 1800 mah and its a pain.
im stuck between z3, g3, and m8. z3 have superior specs than rivals and epic battery life which is very important for me. if you ask why? im using my htc one x nearly 2 years. with this months 21. day it will be complete 2 year. i never used my phone without power saving. getting into clash of clans and collecting the resources drains %10 of my battery.
right now i wanna ask you guys how is the z3? still it didnt released in my country (im from turkey,the land of great taxes) so i dont have any idea about phone. i just saw some pictures, watch reviews and read some specs thats it
my hox have a wifi problem which is a design fault edit: also i send my phone to the guarantee like 4th time because of wifi problem
did z3 have any problems? i heard about glass cracking problem but it only showed up 0.6% of the z3's
my head little bit mixed between this amiral ships.
for the m8 im really scaring about battery which is 2600 mah
but i really love its design. also im really get used to sense ui after sense z3's ui looks bit ugly
anyway if you guys can guide me i will be very happy
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Depends on what you want really.
One M8 is huge and has a smaller screen than both Z3 and G3.
Z3 and M8 have much better speakers than the G3.
Z3 and M8 are more premium design than G3.
G3 has higher res screen, but there's no point in having 1440p screens on a smartphone.
Z3 has far brighter screen than M8 or G3.
Z3 has far better battery life than M8 or G3.
G3 feels much better in the hand compared to M8 or Z3.
M8 has the better software compared to G3 and Z3. HTC are very good with updates as well.
One thing I will say, all three phones are very easy to drop. Z3 is slippery glass, G3 slippery plastic, M8 slippery metal. G3 and Z3 are much easier to hold though due to them being much smaller than the M8.

I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.

istrikerx said:
Depends on what you want really.
One M8 is huge and has a smaller screen than both Z3 and G3.
Z3 and M8 have much better speakers than the G3.
Z3 and M8 are more premium design than G3.
G3 has higher res screen, but there's no point in having 1440p screens on a smartphone.
Z3 has far brighter screen than M8 or G3.
Z3 has far better battery life than M8 or G3.
G3 feels much better in the hand compared to M8 or Z3.
M8 has the better software compared to G3 and Z3. HTC are very good with updates as well.
One thing I will say, all three phones are very easy to drop. Z3 is slippery glass, G3 slippery plastic, M8 slippery metal. G3 and Z3 are much easier to hold though due to them being much smaller than the M8.
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dragonfet said:
I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.
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thx for answers. i really liked the m8 i will look for it one more time so its still in list. how is the z3's durability? i always use my phones with case and screen protection.
is z3 and z3c's cpu better than m8, g3 and s5?
and did z3 have heat problem like at the z2?

bullx said:
thx for answers. i really liked the m8 i will look for it one more time so its still in list. how is the z3s durability? i always use my phones with case and screen protection.
is z3 and z3cs cpu better than m8, g3 and s5?
and did z3 have heat problem like at the z2?
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Doesnt the M8 only have 2gb if RAM?

jonshipman said:
Doesnt the M8 only have 2gb if RAM?
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i never notices it have 2gb ram. i just check it you're right m8 have 2gb ram
so z3 have superior ram, camera, battery on m8 but what about cpu?
edit: also did z3 have heat problem like z2 have?

I own 2 G3's (F460S, D850) currently and here's my take:
The G3 has the best camera (OIS and laser for fast auto focusing , faster than any phone I've used)
The 2k screen is noticeably better (I had a Note 3 before this and you can tell the difference in resolution)
The speaker on the G3 is louder/better sounding than the Note 3 and S5 (I haven't tested it against the m8)
The G3 UI is very clean and simple without being too heavy.
The G3 is the size of the Z3 maybe a little smaller with a bigger screen.
I love my G3's but I'll probably get a Z3 as a backup phone however I don't think I'd use it as a primary.

I have had the d850 "ATT Brand" G3 for awhile now. Having had an HTC for my last 3 phones I was hesitant, but I've grown very fond of the G3. It is very simple u.I. great screen and battery life as well. Most features stock on G3 are what people were wanting on an AOSP ROM after rooting. I thought this was awesome! I'm coming from the HTC One and while the Boomsound speakers sounded great at first they deteriorated over time. The G3s speaker is excellent and with good quality tones or music the hi-fi shines and sounds great. Everyone will have different opinions or problems, likes/dislikes with any product. Actually they're all great devices I'd pick the one which best suits you. Good luck!
Is that an iPhone 6 ?......."LMFAO!!!!"… said my G3

I would say go for the M8 or the Z3. Both are excellent.
The M8 handles gaming better on the battery, the speakers on the M8 are far better than the Z3, so is headphone volume.
Screens are comparable, but Z3 is brighter, M8 is better quality (White balance etc) in my opinion.
Can't go far wrong with either. Z3 if you aren't gaming too much, M8 if speaker quality and gaming are important.
Camera is probably a little better on Z3 except with moving targets.

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I would say go for the M8 or the Z3. Both are excellent.
The M8 handles gaming better on the battery, the speakers on the M8 are far better than the Z3, so is headphone volume.
Screens are comparable, but Z3 is brighter, M8 is better quality (White balance etc) in my opinion.
Can't go far wrong with either. Z3 if you aren't gaming too much, M8 if speaker quality and gaming are important.
Camera is probably a little better on Z3 except with moving targets.
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i didnt get the "m8 handles gaming better on battery" part. i love gaming but m8 have 2600 mah battery, z3 have 3100 mah battery also got 2 power saver modes (stamina, ultra stamina)
i read on websites they said m8 have the worst camera compared to its rivals. z3 have solid 20.7 mp but m8 have 4mp with a ultrapixel sensor.
also i heard boomsound is worse than beats?
anyway its an old smartphone compared to its rivals. first i was waiting for m9 but it will released at 2015 first quarter.its a long time and i cant continue with hox anymore

wolf0491 said:
Got my Z3 on Friday. Been loving it so far. Battery seems very promising. I used to be at work and looking for a charger before I would leave. Now at that same point I have 50% battery....lol
I do play some game and that is what mainly makes my battery time less than most people on here but I still am very impressed by the amount I have left after like 14 hours.
Performance so far has been lag free for me. screens all seem to open and close right when I click.
looks are my favorite. It is just a sexy phone IMO
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thanks for the information mate. did you have any heat problem? in gaming or video recording? and how is the speaker
dragonfet said:
I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.
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well i mosty use whatapp, 3G Mobile Data is nearly always online, and play some games after the htc one x experience im thinking twice for htc
Pilz said:
I own 2 G3's (F460S, D850) currently and here's my take:
The G3 has the best camera (OIS and laser for fast auto focusing , faster than any phone I've used)
The 2k screen is noticeably better (I had a Note 3 before this and you can tell the difference in resolution)
The speaker on the G3 is louder/better sounding than the Note 3 and S5 (I haven't tested it against the m8)
The G3 UI is very clean and simple without being too heavy.
The G3 is the size of the Z3 maybe a little smaller with a bigger screen.
I love my G3's but I'll probably get a Z3 as a backup phone however I don't think I'd use it as a primary.
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I have had the d850 "ATT Brand" G3 for awhile now. Having had an HTC for my last 3 phones I was hesitant, but I've grown very fond of the G3. It is very simple u.I. great screen and battery life as well. Most features stock on G3 are what people were wanting on an AOSP ROM after rooting. I thought this was awesome! I'm coming from the HTC One and while the Boomsound speakers sounded great at first they deteriorated over time. The G3s speaker is excellent and with good quality tones or music the hi-fi shines and sounds great. Everyone will have different opinions or problems, likes/dislikes with any product. Actually they're all great devices I'd pick the one which best suits you. Good luck!
Is that an iPhone 6 ?......."LMFAO!!!!"… said my G3
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well my friend is using a g2. i was recommend it to him when he was a bit confused between samsung and lg and he was a samsung fan.
he just love it, also he says "you must get g3, i test it and after the g2 experience i totally recommend it to you, you must be insane if you not think to buy g3"
also i loved the laser focusing but some users says in turkish forums they having issues with laser focusing.
well in my country these phones are bit expensive. i mean im pretty sure i will use it min 1 year so im just trying to do the right choice for myself.

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thanks for the information mate. did you have any heat problem? in gaming or video recording? and how is the speaker
well i mosty use whatapp, 3G Mobile Data is nearly always online, and play some games after the htc one x experience im thinking twice for htc
well my friend is using a g2. i was recommend it to him when he was a bit confused between samsung and lg and he was a samsung fan.
he just love it, also he says "you must get g3, i test it and after the g2 experience i totally recommend it to you, you must be insane if you not think to buy g3"
also i loved the laser focusing but some users says in turkish forums they having issues with laser focusing.
well in my country these phones are bit expensive. i mean im pretty sure i will use it min 1 year so im just trying to do the right choice for myself.
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I have never had an issue with the laser focusing and I have had a G3 since it launched in Korea back in late may/early June. The G3 is a good phone I do like the Sony as well but it has too many issues currently for me to buy it.

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@bullx compared to xperia Z this phone doesn't seem to get hot while gaming. I do feel some warmth of course but nothing close to my old phone. This may of course be dependent on what games and what length you play at
Sent from my Xperia Z3
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thanks for the info mate, i think it will be cooler than my hox when gaming
did you try 4k video recording? here is the reason why im asking :
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2014/09/sony_xperia_z3_sony_improves_overheating_problems_advises_short_term_recording_only/
did you test 4k video recording yet?
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I have never had an issue with the laser focusing and I have had a G3 since it launched in Korea back in late may/early June. The G3 is a good phone I do like the Sony as well but it has too many issues currently for me to buy it.
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well im just worried about camera(13mp s5 have 16, z3 have 20.7), battery and if i read correctly there is a little lag at the ui (mainscreen, menu etc) because of the high resolution screen
also issues like what? i only know about glass crack and overheating when recording 4k. i dont wanna buy a phone with issue anymore. my hox still in guarantee because of wifi. this is the 4th time i send them.i requested device change this time
here is the battery test i copy from phonearena.com
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thanks for the info mate, i think it will be cooler than my hox when gaming
did you try 4k video recording? here is the reason why im asking :
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...g_problems_advises_short_term_recording_only/
did you test 4k video recording yet?
well im just worried about camera(13mp s5 have 16, z3 have 20.7), battery and if i read correctly there is a little lag at the ui (mainscreen, menu etc) because of the high resolution screen
also issues like what? i only know about glass crack and overheating when recording 4k. i dont wanna buy a phone with issue anymore. my hox still in guarantee because of wifi. this is the 4th time i send them.i requested device change this time
here is the battery test i copy from phonearena.com
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I have used 4k recording and my phone doesn't get hot. Keep in mind I had the SD805 version of the G3. Also while battery life isn't as good as Sony (I get 5hours SOT on a good day ) I can replace the battery in less than 20 seconds. I have 2 batteries since my phone is the Korean version and it comes with a spare battery and charger. This is why the battery life isn't a big deal. The biggest thing I want is a waterproof phone, I love my G3 and I plan to keep it but the waterproofing is what I like about Sony. My wife has a s5 and I hate the physical home button so I thought Sony would be a good choice.
My phone has 0 lag I uploaded a short video of the onscreen nav of my phone I'll post the link down below. Its very smooth (~48k on antutu is pretty good) and I'm running the stock ROM rooted with no performance mods. If I ran AOSP it would certainly be faster and get better battery life. Each has their own advantage I will eventually get Sony or another as a backup, I just don't want to go through the hassle of getting s lemon.
Here is the video (I use Nova launcher in case you were wondering):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/apmizdhkbx100f8/2014-10-01 23.12.23.mp4?dl=0

[REVIEW] THL 5000 Octacore MTK6592 $269.99

THL 5000 Review
Introduction
I was completely shocked and awed when I heard about the THL 5000. Coming from my Nexus 4, which had subpar battery life, 5000mAh seemed like a dream. 2 day battery life? That's how I want to live my life!
As mentioned above, the defining feature of this handset is its mammoth battery. However, here are the other specs below:
Key Specifications:
5.0 inch screen, 1920 x 1080 pixel display
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz WCDMA 850/2100MHz
MTK6592, Cortex-A7 Octa core,2.0GHz
13MP back camera + 5MP front camera
2GB RAM + 16GB ROM
Bluetooth, NFC
Dual SIM Standby
MicroSD Card Slot
Android 4.4.2
How will the 13MP camera stack up? How will the 5000mAh deal with the notoriously power hungry MTK6592 SoC? Let's see what we have.
Unboxing the THL 5000
The THL 5000 comes in a nice white box with the THL logo on the front. It had the usual contents, earphones, a microUSB cable and a charger.
Note: Instead of giving me a North American charger, they gave me a European charger with an adapter instead.
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Hardware
The THL5000 has a decidedly small footprint for a phone containing such a large battery. Its dimensions are 144.2 x 70.4 x 8.9mm. Impressively, it is only 2mm longer than the Samsung Galaxy S5 and 0.8mm thicker. Its width is 2mm less than the S5, which is even more impressive.
Its 146g weight is also well distributed within the body, making it feel good in the hand.
The design of the THL 5000 in my opinion is uninspired. It is a featureless rectangular slab with a chrome bezel surrounding it. The material surrounding the screen is bevelled downwards, somehow making the THL 5000 look even worse.
The materials used in the construction of this device is nothing special, but is not especially terrible either. It feels solid in hand and does not feel like it would bend if you really tried (unlike a certain Apple product ahem...).
The front of the device contains the proximity sensor, front facing camera and mic. The removeable back is black textured plastic and holds the speaker, 13MP camera and flash.
The volume buttons and power button are well situated heightwise on both sides of the phone, making them relatively easy to reach. However, these buttons feel flimsy and wiggle easily within the housing, and sometimes they have to be pressed correctly to for it to register. I am probably going to use an app like Gravity Screen to avoid using the power button to ensure it doesn't spoil.
Opening up the back cover, you will see the non-removeable 5000mAh battery, a MicroSD slot, and a GSM only SIM Slot and another GSM/WCDMA SIM slot.
Display
I unfortunately was shipped a THL 5000 from a later batch that had washed out colours, probably due to high levels of gamma. THL representatives have said that there is nothing they could do to fix this either. I was able to lessen it using screen filters from the app store, and while not ideal, worked out just fine. So take the display section with a grain of salt.
The screen is a 5" 1920x1080 resolution panel with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 and OGS (One Glass Solution) technology. With the screen filters, the colours on the device are a little on the cool side and absolutely do not contain the oversaturated colours (which I personally like) of the Galaxy series' AMOLED screens.
Sunlight legibility isn't bad at all, with a maximum brightness of 500nits, its not hard to use in direct sunlight.
Battery
With a 5000mAh battery, there is no doubt that this phone will have amazing battery life. Even current phones with the largest battery packs top out at around 4000mAh (Huawei Ascend Mate 2). THL touts a talk time of 47 hours, WiFi browsing of 11 hours, and 11.6 hours of video playback. Let's see how THL's numbers stack up to real life use. In addition, I will be comparing this phone's battery life compare to others such as the Galaxy S5 and Xperia Z3. GSMArena does 3 key battery tests on its phones, namely calling, web browsing and video. As I do not have the resources to do all three tests, I only performed the web browsing test and the video test (who is going to talk on their phone for 47 hours anyway?).
I set the screen to about 200nits and installed Web Reloader from the Google Play Store and used it to reload webpages over WiFi every few seconds. First, I reloaded the mobile version of the CNN home page every 10 seconds for 3 hours. Then I transitioned to www.focalprice.com and reloaded that every 30 seconds for 3 hours. Finally, I used www.gearbest.com and reloaded this page every 30 seconds for the rest of the time. The phone finally died after 10:50 of browsing. While this is indeed an impressive number, to put this into perspective, the Sony Xperia Z3 with a larger screen manages 12:11 of browsing time with just 60% battery capacity. The Galaxy S5 achieves 9:48 browsing time with 56% battery capacity.
Note: Most websites who review phones can dedicate the phone for an entire day of straight testing without using it, but since this is my only phone, I had to start this battery test at 94%, and I also had to use battery intensive apps for about 20 minutes as well. Just an FYI.
In the video playback test, the screen was set to 200nits and a standard definition video played. GSMArena also set this test up similarly, except they turned on airplane mode, I chose not to do this in order to better replicate real life, as videos are not usually watched while in airplane mode (unless in an actual airplane). The phone played back video for 12 hours and 2 minutes before dying.
As you can see, THL's claims for WiFI browsing and video playback are not far off from the mark at all. It is refreshing to see a company post real numbers of their products instead of inflating them to sell more devices.
On a more "normal" battery test, the phone was off the charger for 16 hours. During that time, I racked up 5 hours 26 minutes of screen on time, which were a mix of Clash of Clans (and 3 other clones that I also play) for about 45 minutes, an hour of web browsing, 20 minutes of miscellaneous stuff and the rest of the time on 9gag/Feedly. At the end of the day, I was left with 46% battery.
Charging the phone from 0% to 100% took about 4 and a 1/2 hours.
Very few people are going to be web browsing for 10 hours straight per day, so there is no need to keep an eye on battery life. However, it seems that the MTK6592 chipset used in this device is very power hungry and THL also has not optimized the software as well as the big name manufacturers. Hopefully an OTA update will improve battery life even further.
Software and Performance
The THL 5000 runs a stock version of Andorid 4.4.2 with a custom launcher installed and custom icons. I was most disappointed by the smoothness of the stock firmware that came with the phone. I would compare the smoothness of this device to that of the Galaxy S3 and while many wouldn't see the difference, I just moved from a Nexus device and the difference is night and day. This is due to the firmware not being optimized, and hopefully future updates will fix this. This lagginess also cannot be attributed to the MTK6592 processor, as I have played around quite a bit with an Alcatel OneTouch Idol X+, which has the exact same specifications, except a battery half the size. Daily usage of the Alcatel is very very smooth, almost on par with Nexus devices.
The first thing I did when I set up my THL 5000 was install the Google Now Launcher, which is Google's launcher which integrates Google Now into the mix. As a result, performance when swiping between home screens, opening the app drawer, and launching apps were quite laggy. However, I switched back to the stock launcher, and I have to say that I am very impressed with the fluidity and speed of the device. Swiping between home screens, opening of the app drawer and launching of apps is quick and zippy. One would not be able to tell the difference in smoothness of the THL 5000 and a Nexus device and would even say that the THL is more responsive due to shorter transitions/animations.
It does come with some bloatware, which surprisingly did not require root to get rid of, which was a nice touch.
I ran Antutu as well, and obtained a score of 31,881. This is about average for an MTK6592 device with 2GB of RAM and an FHD screen.
Connectivity
I have to admit I was apprehensive about reception of this phone since it was my first chinese phone. However, I was pleasantly surprised, as this phone actually gets better reception than my Nexus 4 here in Canada. In my basement, the Nexus 4 only gets about 2 bars of signal on 3G, while the THL 5000 gets 3-4 bars consistently. It does not have LTE, but I do get HSPA+, with speeds around 36mbps.
Calls are clear and don't drop, however, there is a strange, almost non issue with incoming calls. The phone will ring when there is an incoming call, and whether the screen is on or off, it will take almost 3/4 of a second before the screen allowing you to accept/reject the call pops up. Certainly not an issue, but it does take longer than expected.
WiFi performance is also good, as I get reception anywhere in the house. My Wireless N router is in the basement, and I get reception anywhere in the house, even on the second floor and outside. However, every few hours, WiFi will suddenly stop working. I will still be connected to the network, but I won't be able to load webpages. Stopping and restarting WiFi fixes the problem.
I was concerned with GPS performance as I had heard many reports of GPS issues such as GPS jumping, very long lock times and other issues that happened pre firmware v1.0.9. However, my phone came with v1.1.0 and I did not experience any issue at all. When data was turned on and location was set on high accuracy, I got a lock within 5 seconds. With location set on battery saving mode, I got a lock within 15-20 seconds. It also was very accurate as well, doing me a huge service when guiding me to my next interview's building.
Bluetooth and NFC are also included in this phone, and both work as expected.
Side Note: This will not work on Wind Mobile in Canada
Camera
The THL 5000 features a 13MP camera with a Sony Sensor and F2.0 aperture. It focuses quite well and takes nice photos. Below are some pictures.
As you can see, the quality of these pictures in daylight is quite good. Colour reproduction is quite accurate, and detail is not bad either. Overall, I would rate daylight pictures taken by this camera to be a little better than a Galaxy S3. The bottom two shots have HDR enabled.
Low light performance is another story. Pictures are very grainy under low light. Even my old Nexus 4 has better low light performance than this. I took a few shots in low light, and below are the shots with and without flash.
The flash on this phone, while not powerful, has the ability to wash out the subject of the picture.
In conclusion, if you're taking pictures in the daytime, expect good smartphone pictures to come out of that. If you're in a dark setting, forget it.
EDIT: Please note that after reading review, the reviewer could get quite high quality shots in low light and this is probably due to my lack of camera finesse and expertise, so please take the low light section of this review with a grain of salt.
Video quality is average as well, with the quality being a little lower than picture quality, which is to be expected.
The stock camera software has terrible performance. When you move the camera, the screen will lag behind by almost 1 second. Installing Google Camera from the app store solves this problem, but video recording at 1080p and 720p isn't supported.
The front 5MPx camera is quite good for use in Skype, Hangouts and selfies.
Verdict
Is this phone at $269.99 USD worth it? On one hand, its relatively cheap, and its 5000mAh battery should sufficiently convince any heavy smartphone user. On the other hand, one too many flaws could annoy users sufficiently to return this product.
Pros
Cheap
Massive battery. It refuses to die on you no matter how much you use it
Good specs
Good camera performance in daylight
Impressive reception on calling, texting, data
Cons
Battery life only about par with other flagships with 1/2 the battery capacity
Terrible low light camera performance
Its hard to find fault with the THL 5000 when it costs $269.99. A massive battery, fast octacore processor, FHD screen and great reception make this phone a great buy. The software experience on this phone is also fluid, responsive, and a pleasure to use. THL has also promised to continue providing OTA updates to the phone, and hopefully THL will continue quashing bugs, improving performance and decrease battery consumption.
I definitely recommend this phone to anybody looking for a cheaper device with great specs, great battery life and a fluid user experience.

If only I had read this a few days ago. I ordered one of these phones based off the massive battery and sony 13mp camera.
One thing you didn't mention in the review was GPS function. I have been hearing there are lots of problems with the MTK6592 in terms of GPS.

I did, GPS issues have been fixed

Haha, sorry, I must have skipped that paragraph. I needed a sub heading for my ultra short attention span. The GPS firmware fix is good news.
I think the battery life issues must reflect the chipset. The new 9695 is supposed to be better at power efficiency whereas the 9592 has all 8 cores running all the time. Not sure if there is any way for them to optimize the ROM. There are lots of cheaper phones with this chipset but they only have 2300-3000 batteries. They must not last long even with lower res screens.

Never had a phone that locks so fast ?

THL 5000 price
Too expensive, THL 5000 phone price is $212.99, here: http://www.pompmall.com/thl-mobile-phone.html

[Q] Is the Nexus 5 worth buying?

Slightly different point of view here: I don't need a phone. I need an Android device.
What I currently have is a Galaxy S2 GT-i9100 and a Nexus 7 (2013). What I use them both for is games (80% of the usage), music, internet, pictures, and pretty much everything that is not calling people.
I've been looking at videos of the Nexus 5 but all worthwhile ones are of the 4.4 release version, which I already know was quite terrible, so I wanted to ask - after so many updates, are the camera autofocus, battery and other major flaws fixed? What current weak points does it have (anything you think sucks)?
My budget is not that high so Nexus 6 and 9 are out of the question.

IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.

JayR_L said:
IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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I've never had the chance to check out a Nexus phone, but on the N7 2013, the camera's autofocus is (my own opinion) pretty terrible even compared to phones from 2010 when it comes to video...how is there any constant focusing (or lack of focusing) issues on the N5? Or frame-lag when recording in 1080p?

A year later the N5 is still one of the best phones on the market. It is still blazing fast, smooth as silk, and gaming on it is awesome. I go through Android phones like they are disposable, usually selling them to offset the cost of the new one. Every so often a phone comes around that I just can't bear to part with even though I've since upgraded. The N5 is one of those phones. I'm currently using a 2014 Moto X and an iPhone 6 as my primary devices, but there's just something about the N5 that is preventing me from selling it and I will likely keep it forever. And like JayR_L said, it's easily the best Android experience for the money.
TL;DR- Yes, it is absolutely worth buying.

You should try the Nexus5 and see what you have been missing!

The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this

KingUsman said:
The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this
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The same can be said about any phone.

_MetalHead_ said:
The same can be said about any phone.
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It drains faster than any other phone

KingUsman said:
It drains faster than any other phone
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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.

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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.
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Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.

I would like to say the same, the nexus 5 is the best experiencie u can get from a android, Excep for the battery and about the heat playing games u guys should see the xperia z2, I'm sure that the battery will last a less twice but that if u aren't afraid of your phone became a fire ball.. I like @_MetalHead_ still having my nexus 5 even when I got the xperia z2, its just hard to sell a phone which have been so amazing and for that long.

KingUsman said:
Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.
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You cant compare the Moto G to the N5. It has a much weaker processor than the N5 and as a result it won't get nearly as hot. More power generally means more heat. I've used all the major FLAGSHIPS this year and all of them heat up. The OnePlus One gets so hot you can almost boil an egg on it. Even my 2014 Moto X gets pretty warm with extended gaming sessions.
And again, everyone knows that battery life is not one of the N5's strong suits. Compromises had to be made to offer such a powerful phone at such an affordable price point. Just like compromises had to be made with the Moto G in order to sell it so cheap. If you want raw power, and just ok battery life, go with the N5. If you want a budget phone with great battery life and don't care about processing power, RAM, or screen resolution then save a little money and get the Moto G. Both are great devices for their targeted markets.

I switch from S4 and my wife switch from Note 2, both didn't look back at all.
If you compare to other phone release at that time frame N5 is just perfect, the battery does a little bit weak if compare to current generation (2300ma vs 3000ma+), but you also got OIS, which is really useful and I will say that is a must have.
Talk about heat, N5 got the snapdragon 800, you can expect it generate the same amount of heat with other phone using it, if you found other phone running cool and not as hot as N5 (such as G2, or even G3 but new cpu) that just because they clock down the CPU speed and limit it, LG G2 was known for this, and the G3 my mother using will lock the max cpu speed even when just charging using wireless charge and do nothing.
Just make sure you get the 32GB version, as the system reserve a pretty larger amount of storage.

OP, make your own decision, don't ask random people over the internet, because what you want is different to what we want.

i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.

apelamod said:
i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.
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That's just because data encryption is enabled by default on the N6... The latest Nexus flagship is overall better than its "predecessor" (a word that doesn't fit perfectly the N5), hardware-wise. The only weaker point is, in my opinion, its screen, with its insane resolution but disappointing brightness and color accuracy (even compared to other AMOLED screens).
BTW, our N5 is a great phone indeed. I have been using one as my daily driver for more than one year now, and still I wouldn't like to replace it with any other phone.
Display is great, all apps and the o.s. run fast and smoothly, camera is very good, partly because of the OIS, partly because the software optimizations improved its performance and speed a lot. The only flaw of this phone is its battery, which isn't terrible but just "average". What I really miss is the possibility to replace it when it gets old.

I'm thinking of replacing my N5. Is One plus one, any good? I like the slow motion camera on it.

Thinking of geting the HTC M8 (if S-Off can be achieved) or the Note 4.

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IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!

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5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!
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4-5 hours is average.

Would you recommend this phone?

Hi, all, I am new to this section.
I am wondering if you would recommend this phone. I just shattered my S3 LTE today and am painfully suffering on an old iPhone 3GS until a replacement.
I am planning to switch to a budget phone, and I want to know your opinions on this model. I have heard good things about the Moto G line.
I would like to know a few things about this phone before I buy it. Because I am very nervous.
First of all, would you recommend this phone?
Battery life. I always had issues with battery life on my S3 even with an extended battery. I am a heavy user.
Performance. Looking at the specs, it seems that performance wise, it is better than my S3, but would it be good for what I do which is mostly 2D games and web browsing?
Speakers. They good? I know they have the dual speakers in the front, meaning no more hand-cupping and stereo sound, but what about volume/quality?
Any quirks I should know about? I seem to remember at least one of the models lacking a gyroscope.
From the looks of it, ROM development is very active, so that isn't an issue.
I don't really use the camera, but what is it like?
Is it worth it to get the 16GB? I have a good 64GB SD card.
For refs, here is the S3 specs:
4.8" AMOLED
Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 - Dual-core 1.51GHz
1.5GB RAM (Seemed to barely squeak by on CM13)
16GB storage (I will be willing to give this up if I have to for price's sake).
400MHz Adreno 225 GPU
With an extended 4400mAh battery (might be worn out, though), I can sometimes run out halfway through the day. Depends on the screen brightness.
8MP Rear facing camera w/flash, 1.5MP front facing camera. I rarely used this.
Thanks for understanding. Because I really want to know what people think before I invest. I'm broke and I don't want to be stuck with something I won't like.
And this is opinion, I won't judge.

First of all I would not recommend at all, because at same budget you can get more featured phone like fingerprint scanner, full HD display with large screen with more battery and power full processor but this is IPS LCD with screen being little dull and old processor.
As for as battery, on stock rom you will get maximum of 4 hours 30 minutes screen on time with LTE active web browsing but in if you use custom rom like RR, CM or Turbo you will get 5.30 to 6 hrs sot.
For games I can't say anything about that.
Speakers are not good for listening music, I still don't know if it is having dual speakers or not ! Audio quality little bit low or maybe it depends on network problems.
Next about gyroscope yes it is not available for this model.
As for rom development it's one of the active device for rom and kernels tweaks.
Camera department is, 13 MP doesn't look like same as Samsung's 13 MP but it's ok and front camera is good for 5 MP it clicks quality images.
As for storage is concerned 16 GB is better because in 8 GB you will get only 3.8 GB space.

aadison said:
First of all I would not recommend at all, because at same budget you can get more featured phone like fingerprint scanner, full HD display with large screen with more battery and power full processor but this is IPS LCD with screen being little dull and old processor.
As for as battery, on stock rom you will get maximum of 4 hours 30 minutes screen on time with LTE active web browsing but in if you use custom rom like RR, CM or Turbo you will get 5.30 to 6 hrs sot.
For games I can't say anything about that.
Speakers are not good for listening music, I still don't know if it is having dual speakers or not ! Audio quality little bit low or maybe it depends on network problems.
Next about gyroscope yes it is not available for this model.
As for rom development it's one of the active device for rom and kernels tweaks.
Camera department is, 13 MP doesn't look like same as Samsung's 13 MP but it's ok and front camera is good for 5 MP it clicks quality images.
As for storage is concerned 16 GB is better because in 8 GB you will get only 3.8 GB space.
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Thank you for your help! While I don't need 1080p or a fingerprint scanner, the battery life kinda helped my decision.

battery is good, camera is ok, price is best, rooting is easy, roms are raining, thumb up

Thanks, @dangerhouse.
@aadison Looking things up, are you talking about the Moto G4+? I am not sure I want to get a G4 or a G4+ because trying to find a used one is improbable.

No, I'm talking about Redmi note 3 SD.

you are in Moto G 2015 Forum, same as Moto G 3

dangerhouse said:
you are in Moto G 2015 Forum, same as Moto G 3
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I know where I am, but thank you anyway.
Just because I mentioned another model doesn't necessarily mean that I am lost.