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This started yesterday using dutty's newest hybrid rom on the radio it comes with, i believe its 1.64.14.06, yeah thats it. This radio and rom has worked fine for me with great 3g coverage and everything, rom just seemed a little slower than his apr 09 32mpp rom. I then changed the radio to the niki 1.58.11.07 since that one works the best for me. After flashing, the first phone call i made or recieved worked fine on my jawbone bluetooth. Any call after the first one, completely nothing. Phone shows im connected, seconds tick away on phone showing im connected, person on other end cant hear anything as well as me. Ive tried calling and receiving calls from numerous numbers and people with same problem. I also tried turning off bluetooth and trying the speakerphone or regular ear piece on phone and still same problem. If i soft reset the phone then its back to the start, the first call either made or recieved works fine even on blutooth headset, speaker phone, or ear speaker on front of phone, then every call either made or recieved after the first nothing! I then flashed back to the stock 1.64.14.06 radio with no more problems. I then got tired of the newest hybrid rom since its slower then the previous apr 09 32mpp rom and flashed back to the apr 09 32mpp rom with stock radio 1.64.14.06. After making many calls and recieving many calls since this last flash, the problem just started again now on the apr 09 32mpp rom with the stock 1.64.14.06 radio! The same exact symptoms as before! Everything else works fine like gps, texting, e-mail, I just cant use the main feature of the cell phone which is to TALK to someone! Anyone have any ideas? I was thinking about flashing back to the stock att rom then flashing back to the apr 09 32mpp rom to see if that helps. Like i said before, the apr 09 32mpp rom has worked for me perfect for over 2 weeks until the newest hybrid came out and even the hybrid worked fine for the first few days. No programs are running in the background, no damage done to the phone, never dropped it, phone battery over 75 percent, cant figure out whats wrong? Please, if anyone can help???
Im gonna try to flash back to the niki radio 1.58.11.07 since i used that radio the most on this apr 09 32mpp rom. Still can't figure out what would cause this to happen to my phone for no reason? I havent downloaded any new apps or anything. Just stopped working!
just a thought but shouldnt you have posted this in the relative rom thread instead of starting a new thread but if i were you and liked the radio i had id reflash the same one try it out for a while if it happens again then try a new radio
sd73ta said:
just a thought but shouldnt you have posted this in the relative rom thread instead of starting a new thread but if i were you and liked the radio i had id reflash the same one try it out for a while if it happens again then try a new radio
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Of course i would post this in dutty's rom thread but have you seen his thread? Grows over 1,000 posts a day. The same time im typing up my problem, 10 other problems already got posted and so on. Thats why i posted this as a new thread, not to take up space but to get my problem answered and some help. Yes i did flash back to the niki rom just now and made over 7 calls and recieved a few just phone on my phone but that doesn't mean this problem won't happen in a day or in an hour. Like i stated in the first post, the roms (newest hybrid and apr 09 rom) worked perfect the first few days or even weeks and then BOOM, this problem hits for ? reason. Just looking to see if anyone on here can figure out why this happened so if it does happen again in the future for me or anyone else on this forum they will know how to fix it. Like i said before, i havent damaged my phone, no new cabs or programs added, soft reset my phone and doesn't fix the problem, even flashing to a new rom altogether didnt fix the problem and flashing to a new radio only fixes the problem temporarly.
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deeznuts said:
Of course i would post this in dutty's rom thread but have you seen his thread? Grows over 1,000 posts a day. The same time im typing up my problem, 10 other problems already got posted and so on. Thats why i posted this as a new thread, not to take up space but to get my problem answered and some help. Yes i did flash back to the niki rom just now and made over 7 calls and recieved a few just phone on my phone but that doesn't mean this problem won't happen in a day or in an hour. Like i stated in the first post, the roms (newest hybrid and apr 09 rom) worked perfect the first few days or even weeks and then BOOM, this problem hits for ? reason. Just looking to see if anyone on here can figure out why this happened so if it does happen again in the future for me or anyone else on this forum they will know how to fix it. Like i said before, i havent damaged my phone, no new cabs or programs added, soft reset my phone and doesn't fix the problem, even flashing to a new rom altogether didnt fix the problem and flashing to a new radio only fixes the problem temporarly.
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Wow for your convenience and avoiding 1000 posts thread, you create a new one. What a good idea. I should do the same thing since I'm not English speaker and it's really difficult for me to read in English.
No wonder why you are senior member.
Thanks for the idea.
Hi,
I understand that this is a little bit confusing but, actually, with the same build there are "2" versions the one that is labeled with the 1.65.14.06 radio and the one labeled with 1.64.08.21.
So, Radio 1.65.14.06 & 1.65.17.10 are just compatable with roms labelled 1.65.14.06. this means if you flash another different radio, you'll get the bugs you described...
On the other side, all the other 6.1 radios should work with the second version, labeled with 1.64.08.21. once again, if you flash an att radio (1.65.14.06 or 1.65.17.10) you'll get the bugs you described...
NOTE: RADIO 1.65.17.10 IS NOT RECOMENDED - IT WILL UNABLE THE RE-FLASH PROCESS WITH ANY OTHER RADIO, UNLESS YOU'RE SECURITY UNLOCKED
cheers
Honestly, im more new to the thread and Id have to say.. The most annoying thing and the thing I dont quite understand is how many whiners there on on "posting new threads" as if posting is something sacred that only the best people should be able to do. Now I understand the defense "oh well people post more and more of the same questions.. blah blah" but who the heck is actually making you read these threads? Honestly, id call posting new threads troll bait, because its only the trolls that rush to whine about it. Ive personally never posted a thread, and I never would in this forum. To be realistic, I come on this site almost everyday and see the same crap. Its just loaded with peoples roms on the first page of the forums. Im just saying, give some of these guys a break. Im sure there will be trolls that come in and complain against my post... but oh well. Im sure others have noticed it too
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Honestly, im more new to the thread and Id have to say.. The most annoying thing and the thing I dont quite understand is how many whiners there on on "posting new threads" as if posting is something sacred that only the best people should be able to do. Now I understand the defense "oh well people post more and more of the same questions.. blah blah" but who the heck is actually making you read these threads? Honestly, id call posting new threads troll bait, because its only the trolls that rush to whine about it. Ive personally never posted a thread, and I never would in this forum. To be realistic, I come on this site almost everyday and see the same crap. Its just loaded with peoples roms on the first page of the forums. Im just saying, give some of these guys a break. Im sure there will be trolls that come in and complain against my post... but oh well. Im sure others have noticed it too
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okay let me help u understand why senior members and moderators get ticked when people post new threads:
a) as the name of the site states it is targeted towards developers or people with ability to understand 2+2. developers put there personal time trying to create something better for us without any monetary gain.
b) posting new threads about the same issue pushes real issues down or completely buries them. xda gets close to 100000 hits a day .. imagine if all those people created new threads .. what would happen to threads w/ real issues??
c) it is easier to post and quiker to get a response under a rom thread that u r having problem with. i post under rom that i have issues with and always get an answer unless the problem is my own stupidity which i manage to fix.
d) its part of xda's tos to post under threads that r relevant to ur query.. don't like that? good bye.
e) people post new threads cuz they don't wana read. believe me i know .. but reading is the best thing so read the wiki it can answer all questions like this one.
f) people respond better when they see u r following rules ... if a cop pulled u over and u gav him **** u would probably get in more trouble compared to if u apologized for what u did wrong. same goes here post a new problem and everyone will try to help; post a question that has been answered 10 thousand times u r bound to piss people off.
and i don't think i need say more.
Always someone that has to post back on things subject to common sense which either A) makes that person feel smarter then they actually are or B) feel like without there knowledge, all would be lost. Without your details, I said that main outline of what someone is going to end up whining about, but then again... what made you put so much time and effort into reading my message? for that matter, you even came on this subject and replied to nothing the OP needed and instead, just trolled my message. Obviously you came in this thread to complain, whine, or whatever you call it, noticed my message, and felt my message was a better target.. so here goes. (oh, and I never asked why "senior members" or "moderators" get ticked. It was more people like you "members" lol)
A) Who are you to define peoples questions into interpretations like (2+2)? Maybe because they dont know what YOU know, that doesnt make them stupid. Its people like you who dont realize that people always have to be taught by someone, and im sure you learned all your stuff by reading through 1000s of pages of threads and not posting any yourself... just realize, no ones born with the knowledge.
B) As I said in my previous message, I see mostly ROMS on the first page everytime I come on the site. Not just that, if no one wants to respond to the thread, doesnt it just get lost from there? but usually its the trolls that keep new threads going isnt it? and once again, who are you to define whats a real issue? obvious when people post, they are having issues. For you to say they are worthless is for you to say that your issues are just more important.
C) Ok thats your preference, and your OPINION states that you will get an answer quicker when posting under a rom thread, but honestly... its a matter of personal experience. Theres no evidence that would show posting under an existing thread gets your questions answered quicker, as im sure some people might have done both but have had better experience with posting a new thread.
D) Obviously thats understandable. But to what degree? moderators would "decide" which threads are relevant to what query? Im sure even moderators understand that people are going to post because not everyone has hours to spend looking certain things up. While you can look at two different threads and in your opinion they could be the same, the variations of the two threads could show quite a difference in the solution thats needed for a problem... and just because someone doesnt like someone, is that really how it should be? goodbye?
E) Hah how do YOU know why people are posting? have you done a survey? and dont tell me its common sense. While sometimes it can be because of laziness of reading, it can also be the fact... someone couldnt find what they are looking for. wow imagine someone posting because of that. Maybe the wiki does answer the question, then again, maybe some people looked and didnt know how to interpret the answer to the question so needed to get more advice or opinions.
F) Using an example of a situation thats totally irrelevant to that actual discussion is quite useless IMO. Thats not true all the time.. maybe it means a cop would look around or search you to try to find more evidence to put you up... but id hardly interpret that into "more trouble" then just kissing the cops butt. You used an analogy of a subject thats basically "stand up for yourself and say what you mean, or dont" and that analogy goes both ways. Some situations help you by shutting up, while others dont.
I dont think I need to say more either. While im sure a detailed reply will probably attract more trolls... this was merely just a single reply based on "thesires" direct interpretations, opinions, and outlooks. While I myself believe in many cases new threads shouldnt be started and just post in existing threads, I still remember there are billions of people out there... and a little confusion or misinterpretation is understandable. Theres many situations and solutions ive seen or found..
1) The person who spends his time trolling the forum and finding these type of threads, then disrespectfully and aggressively insults the OP and complains.
2) The kind person who directs the OP to the right place.
3) The person who doesnt care and doesnt want to hear it so doesnt read the thread and watches how it quickly sinks to the bottom because it doesnt get many replies.
My solution is always if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it at all. If you dont want this thread to stay at the top... dont respond to it.
One last thing, these are my opinions and are that only. They are not regarded by myself, or is it assumed that whats posted above reflects any views of others. It doesnt show anything factual, its just merely an opinion stated. So plz dont spend time arguing that
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It doesnt show anything factual, its just merely an opinion stated. So plz dont spend time arguing that
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I figured that since you spent so much time editing, checking grammar and punctuation that you might want to know that you forgot the period on the very last sentence.
lol the fact that I didnt edit any grammer at all would just be giving me a compliment. So thanks. I actually edited it to add in the line at the bottom, to tell people that it was opinion based, and not expressing any views of others. That way I wouldnt offend too many people. But geez was that post you made even neccessary? Ill leave the period off on this one too
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lol the fact that I didnt edit any grammer at all would just be giving me a compliment. So thanks. I actually edited it to add in the line at the bottom, to tell people that it was opinion based, and not expressing any views of others. That way I wouldnt offend too many people. But geez was that post you made even neccessary? Ill leave the period off on this one too
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About as necessary as this one. BTW, you misspelled grammar. Anyway, your welcome. Your previous post was quite intelligently written.
Calm down u too, this isnt why i created this thread. Ive been on this site for some time now and have flashed countless roms both on my 8525 and tilt and never had a weird problem like this. That is why i created this thread which i also dont do very often. I guess if it makes everyone happy i could copy and post my problem in the 2 rom threads and see if someone can answer it. Thought this would be easier yes for everyone but i guess not. Admin go ahead and delete this thread i started since it must be taking up too much valuable space on this forum and people are tired of seeing it instead of helping me, thank you.
shadowlabs9 said:
Hi,
I understand that this is a little bit confusing but, actually, with the same build there are "2" versions the one that is labeled with the 1.65.14.06 radio and the one labeled with 1.64.08.21.
So, Radio 1.65.14.06 & 1.65.17.10 are just compatable with roms labelled 1.65.14.06. this means if you flash another different radio, you'll get the bugs you described...
On the other side, all the other 6.1 radios should work with the second version, labeled with 1.64.08.21. once again, if you flash an att radio (1.65.14.06 or 1.65.17.10) you'll get the bugs you described...
NOTE: RADIO 1.65.17.10 IS NOT RECOMENDED - IT WILL UNABLE THE RE-FLASH PROCESS WITH ANY OTHER RADIO, UNLESS YOU'RE SECURITY UNLOCKED
cheers
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I totally understand what ur saying but my problem is even with the stock radio that comes with the rom, 1.65.14.06. I rom worked perfect for about a week with the original radio then this problem started so i changed radios and still didnt help.
I've had this issue too. Less so after disabling Voice command, but it happened again yesterday. The bad this is that you don't realize its gone mute until you try to dial out. Ringtones and all notifications are gone too.
I've had it happen with and without bluetooth and with multiple radios.
there are always recommended actions to take after flashing a rom. You must hard reset after flashing. Weird stuff does happen when you don't hard reset. This could be due to the rom, too acting really funny. You guys probably put it through scenarios where it gets unstable. Theres a good chance these problems are fixed in the newer roms.
I seriously wasnt even concentrated on spelling or "grammar", but I did find it pretty funny out of all the words ive typed, you nailed me on the "grammar" one. Admitantly ive been spelling it that way for a long time, so it made me laugh when I seen your post. Thanks (seriously)
Sorry for starting a new thread. ttran has put lot of work in 7.x roms and they are the best rom till date. Excellent response time and out of the world UI and features. However it has a serious issue which is present is almost every 7.x rom.
If there a call coming from blocked number and your backlight is off (as most of time it will be) the phone doesn't ring/vibrate. Just the backlight turns on it shows the number on screen. But it doesn't ring/vibrate.
This is the issue with virgin 7.x rom installed. No additional software installed or no additional settings done. I have flashed 7.3, 7.4.1, 7.6 (with phonecanvas and without phonecanvas) roms and have issue in all of these roms. Now I flashed back to 6.5 and it is working as expected.
It is very easy to reproduce. With any 7.x rom
1) switch off the backlight if it is not already off by pressing the button on top of phone
2) call your phone from another phone with caller id blocked. (If in US, you can put *67 in front of number you are dialing. e.g. instead of dialing 12345671234 dial *6712345671234)
You will see that screen turns on and shows a private call, but it doesn't ring.
Without this working I miss several important calls.
If anyone has a solution or need more info please reply to this thread.
EDIT: Good news.. This isssue is no longer present in OTP 7.7.. I just flashed to 7.7 biggy and it doesn't have that issue. Thanks TTRAN !!
I'm using OTP 7.3 STD and this happens. But honestly I think of it more as a
special feature - since I'm the kind of guy who doesn't want to be bothered by
anyone who is blocking or has a blocked ID. Callers can still leave voice mail and
that comes with an audible and visual alert - and if I like 'em, I can call 'em back.
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I'm using OTP 7.3 STD and this happens. But honestly I think of it more as a
special feature - since I'm the kind of guy who doesn't want to be bothered by
anyone who is blocking or has a blocked ID. Callers can still leave voice mail and
that comes with an audible and visual alert - and if I like 'em, I can call 'em back.
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I third this problem,
DrStinkbomb, i have exactly the same thoughts about not answering those who want to be private, but it has its down aswell.
Just day before yesterday i was waiting for a call from NYC Police because they have fix my car for damaging it while trying to catch a suspect. They did call me back, but from a private number, lucky for me i had my phone on my desk beside my computer and saw the light coming up. Thats when i relialzed that i almost missed a very important call.
So yes it is important to get it fixed.
yea i dont answer if they block their number anyway... they can just leave a message if i dont know who it is... so this is actually a good feature
Unfortunately, with the doctors and lawyers (not to mention the couple generally paranoid quacks) in the family I foresee this being a potential issue for me. I haven't noticed it yet, but the holiday's aren't yet in everyone's mind...
Though some users like not answering calls from blocked number, however as tatail mentioned, sometimes it is very important to take calls.
Several times banks, hospital, doctor etc. call from a blocked number and you really don't want to miss those calls.
I have to revert back to 6.5 rom just because of this issue.
I hope someone knowledgeable can come up with solution.
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Sorry for starting a new thread.
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No you're not. In fact, you're rather unapologetic about it, considering you had thought about it before doing it, and decided to do it anyway.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
k.thx.bai
dumpydooby said:
No you're not. In fact, you're rather unapologetic about it, considering you had thought about it before doing it, and decided to do it anyway.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
k.thx.bai
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chill dude.. I am not complaining. I am pointing out a issue. finding out bugs is part of development process so cook can put it in next rom or people can find solution together. If you read my posts, you will see that I have been a big fan of ttran's rom. I have posted solution myself for a bluetooth issue I found in one of the earlier roms. As you would have noticed I have tried to do my part by doing debugging (flashing different roms, about 12 to 13 times with different options and finally isolating the issue)
We are in this together to make it better.
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chill dude.. I am not complaining. I am pointing out a issue. finding out bugs is part of development process so cook can put it in next rom or people can find solution together. If you read my posts, you will see that I have been a big fan of ttran's rom. I have posted solution myself for a bluetooth issue I found in one of the earlier roms. As you would have noticed I have tried to do my part by doing debugging (flashing different roms, about 12 to 13 times with different options and finally isolating the issue)
We are in this together to make it better.
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Really. With all the irrelevant posts that get stuck inside the OTP thread, you create a new one for this? Please explain to me why this would not have been better posted on the 7.x thread itself.
And no, 'I'm Special,' is not an acceptable answer.
coburn_c said:
Really. With all the irrelevant posts that get stuck inside the OTP thread, you create a new one for this? Please explain to me why this would not have been better posted on the 7.x thread itself.
And no, 'I'm Special,' is not an acceptable answer.
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Easy guys, no need for all the hostility. Maybe the post would have been better suited in the OTP 7x posts, but is it really that big of a deal? Either way, he is just trying to help.
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Easy guys, no need for all the hostility. Maybe the post would have been better suited in the OTP 7x posts, but is it really that big of a deal? Either way, he is just trying to help.
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No, he is not trying to help, he is trying to be helped, and if you're looking for some assistance with an issue you can at least follow forum etiquette rules as dumpydooby pointed out. The development forum is not for help, its for developing new roms, he can either post in the rom thread if he wants to help the cook debug the rom, or he can post in a forum for assistance. I think a mod should remove this thread.
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No, he is not trying to help, he is trying to be helped, and if you're looking for some assistance with an issue you can at least follow forum etiquette rules as dumpydooby pointed out. The development forum is not for help, its for developing new roms, he can either post in the rom thread if he wants to help the cook debug the rom, or he can post in a forum for assistance. I think a mod should remove this thread.
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No, I don't need any assistance, I don't have this issue. I think he saw there were a bunch of people that were having the same issue, so I guess that's why he posted it here. I agree, the post would be better served in the OT7 post, but I do think he was just trying to help.
rofl - what I find funnier than the new thread are the 'holier than thou' posts that keep bumping the thread to the top....
hahaha....
you guys are funny. And now I've bumped this thread.... awesome...
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rofl - what I find funnier than the new thread are the 'holier than thou' posts that keep bumping the thread to the top....
hahaha....
you guys are funny. And now I've bumped this thread.... awesome...
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LOL! bumped again.
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Really. With all the irrelevant posts that get stuck inside the OTP thread, you create a new one for this? Please explain to me why this would not have been better posted on the 7.x thread itself.
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i think you answered your question yourself. the OTP thread is so massive with 'irrelevant' posts that the big issues get buried. And if you had taken time to read the actual OTP thread, I had posted it in that thread (don't tell me you never read the OTP thread).
In fact ttran himself had offered to fix this issue ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2756237&highlight=vibrate#post2756237 ) . But I think because of ton's of posts after that it got buried. I did not want to bug ttran with PM's. He already has tons of things to do.
I am just hoping to find a solution collectively.
If you had not started whining about this thread, maybe we would be closer to fix which can be given to ttran so he can add it to his next rom.
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No, he is not trying to help, he is trying to be helped, and if you're looking for some assistance with an issue you can at least follow forum etiquette rules as dumpydooby pointed out. The development forum is not for help, its for developing new roms, he can either post in the rom thread if he wants to help the cook debug the rom, or he can post in a forum for assistance. I think a mod should remove this thread.
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What's wrong with pointing out a potentially serious issue and offering to help ?
Here are the rules from forum (in case you forgot to read them)
- ROM discussion
- ROM release
- ROM issus due to the release thread
I never said I need it fixed now. I have already flashed back to 6.5.
I am offering to help anyone and provide any required info who knows more about roms than me.
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i think you answered your question yourself. the OTP thread is so massive with 'irrelevant' posts that the big issues get buried. And if you had taken time to read the actual OTP thread, I had posted it in that thread (don't tell me you never read the OTP thread).
In fact ttran himself had offered to fix this issue ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2756237&highlight=vibrate#post2756237 ) . But I think because of ton's of posts after that it got buried. I did not want to bug ttran with PM's. He already has tons of things to do.
I am just hoping to find a solution collectively.
If you had not started whining about this thread, maybe we would be closer to fix which can be given to ttran so he can add it to his next rom.
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the current post is what, 12 pages? and if you cant be bothered to read the thread, and find out if the answer is already there... or even re-post there and wait for ttran to see it...
i came to this site and read everything i could find, i never once asked a question so that i could be spoon fed answers, i searched and found all the info i needed, and i certainly never created repetitive, self-serving posts in development forums
but you're right, i'm whining, when i should have just ignored the question and questioner, duly noted.
edit: also just for kicks, my phone rings just fine when the caller ID is blocked otp 7.6
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the current post is what, 12 pages? and if you cant be bothered to read the thread, and find out if the answer is already there... or even re-post there and wait for ttran to see it...
i came to this site and read everything i could find, i never once asked a question so that i could be spoon fed answers, i searched and found all the info i needed, and i certainly never created repetitive, self-serving posts in development forums
but you're right, i'm whining, when i should have just ignored the question and questioner, duly noted.
edit: also just for kicks, my phone rings just fine when the caller ID is blocked otp 7.6
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Way ahead of you. My eyesight must be weaker than you since even after reading all the posts, I could not find the solution. I had reposted it couple of times in original thread. Also if you had read the thread carefully, you will find that several other people have exactly same issue. Though none of them could reproduce it. I was able to isolate and reproduce it after spending lot of time. What have you done to contribute to development of the ROM's (except trolling in forums)
If you can find solution to all your problems by searching, good for you.
This is a public forum (meant for discussing issues), and there are owners/moderators defining the rules. As per rules they permit posting the issues. You seem to be hell bent on policing the forum, and enforcing your own views (I see you just joined this forum a month back).
I had repeatedly said that this is not a "please-fix-it-for-me-i-must-have-it" thread (though it would be good to have this fixed ) since I have already switched to previous version which doesn't have this issue. In addition I am offering to help others isolate/debug the problem.
Just for kicks, why don't you try to switch off the backlight of your phone and try calling from blocked number ?
You know.... Tran did make a thread for rom issues... dont forget that, and i quote
"Please post your issues here since the original thread is getting way too big.
Also, please post your fixes for possible minor issues, this will help new users until I update the rom.
Do not post any thing else in this thread besides issue related stuff."
WOW, he even says please in his thread... what a little reading will do...
And so, the moral to this story is...
I'm not sure. All I'm getting from all
this is 'I am holier than thou'....
'nuff said. It's not funny anymore.
does anyone know how to get market to work on "bottle of smoke"? I installed it and work really well by market wont install apps. Just download it and reboot
Which alpha are you running? My market acts funny, but never inspires a reboot. Sometimes when I go to download something, the last app that I was using fires up. But when I go back to the market everything is OK and I can download stuff again.
Try this; go into clockworkmod recovery and "Fix Permissions". This seems to fix several market issues in BOS/Honeycomb.
I don't mean to sound rude, nor do I want ot appear to be directing people to the "other" forum, but since BOS is still in Alpha stages, there's a lot of stuff being tested, daily, sometimes hourly. There is a very detailed thread on the other forum dealing specifically with bug reports, test results, fixes, thoughts, last ditch attempts, etc.
I would suggest that following the thread there would answer many, many more questions than anything you'll find on XDA. Put it this way, I started reading the thread last evening, and every time I finished a page of posts, I noticed that there were 2 new pages posted. It updates rather quickly with people reporting their findings, and providing fixes for them, or theories.
In any case, BOS is not a finished product, and expecting things to work perfectly after flashing it is completely unrealistic.
The reason for my opinion on this is becuase just about every other post in that thread mentions the same exact problem you're having...then there's a new release, and market will work, but e-mail gets borked, or wi-fi doesnt' work, or it does, but only if you wipe data first, second, repeatedly, watch 20 bootloops, eat a bowl of cereal, wash the dog, then start the tablet while holding it upside down and pressing the vol- button with headphones plugged in...seriously, there is a bunch of stuff people are trying there, and posting results...not as fantastic as my suggestions, but I COULD go for some cereal...and that dog does stink.
TJE,
I tried posting it there but can't because I only have few posts as of today. In dev area, you have to have 10 or more posts in order to be able to post there.
apxn, the rules there are the same as here - there's a general area for questions, and only developers are to post new threads in the dev area, specifically related to roms or other objects they're developing.
I'm aware of that rule and got no problem with it. It was a simple question I couldn't asked in the dev area so I asked for it in this forum. Don't mean to offend anyone.
TJE,
I tried posting it there but can't because I only have few posts as of today. In dev area, you have to have 10 or more posts in order to be able to post there.
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Don't mean to sound rude (again) but I know that this will anyway. You don't need any posts there to read the forum...the question you asked was answered numorous times in just one thread at the other site. It's not really a question anyway, as more of a "I'm helping to test this ALPHA mod and wanted to point out that I too have a market issue." There are no fixes because it's in testing. BOS is not a stable rom, and is not yet intended to be used for daily use, unless your daily use is specifically testing and reporting bugs to developers.
I suggest that you participate in the HC BOS thread at the other site until you have enough posts to be able to start your own thread...but realize that asking how to fix a known issue on an ALPHA build is not a valid question.
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Don't mean to sound rude (again) but I know that this will anyway. You don't need any posts there to read the forum...the question you asked was answered numorous times in just one thread at the other site. It's not really a question anyway, as more of a "I'm helping to test this ALPHA mod and wanted to point out that I too have a market issue." There are no fixes because it's in testing. BOS is not a stable rom, and is not yet intended to be used for daily use, unless your daily use is specifically testing and reporting bugs to developers.
I suggest that you participate in the HC BOS thread at the other site until you have enough posts to be able to start your own thread...but realize that asking how to fix a known issue on an ALPHA build is not a valid question.
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Seconded - go to the source for the real (and most current) info.
FYI, the general consensus is, for now, Alpha version 2.4 is the most stable. I am running it and have zero problems with market (in fact, you will be able to get tablet apps that are unavailable before you switch to BoS.)
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FYI, the general consensus is, for now, Alpha version 2.4 is the most stable. I am running it and have zero problems with market (in fact, you will be able to get tablet apps that are unavailable before you switch to BoS.)
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Thanks. This 2.4 market info was helpful, I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why the 3.3 build had missing apps in market (i.e.-Google books) when 2.4 did not. I guess I'll roll back.
I just installed RandomKing's "ThunderHawk III Final" rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343669
I noticed I have a bug with my wireless not working, and wanted to report that, but apparently the forum prevents new users from posting to development threads. Must I really make 10 random posts just so I can do that? (I realize I may be able to PM RandomKing directly, but I figure it'd be good for other users to also be aware of what bugs are out there for these roms ...)
I guess I'm a little annoyed at being prevented from doing something that I considered "good" for the community ...
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I just installed RandomKing's "ThunderHawk III Final" rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343669
I noticed I have a bug with my wireless not working, and wanted to report that, but apparently the forum prevents new users from posting to development threads. Must I really make 10 random posts just so I can do that? (I realize I may be able to PM RandomKing directly, but I figure it'd be good for other users to also be aware of what bugs are out there for these roms ...)
I guess I'm a little annoyed at being prevented from doing something that I considered "good" for the community ...
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Did you read threw the thread to see if others had this issue? What did you do to try and fix it? Did you look in the Q&A forums in your device forums?
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Did you read threw the thread to see if others had this issue? What did you do to try and fix it? Did you look in the Q&A forums in your device forums?
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Yeah, I read through the tread, and as far as I can tell, the bug's been persistent through several versions of the rom. It was claimed that it was fixed with his latest version, but I guess not ...
The only fix I had found was to reboot the phone Today, the "app" to make calls (I think it's called "phone?") crashed several times, meaning I can't call people reliably, so I think I'm going to try a different rom. Thanks again for your help though!
same here. I'm having an issue with another rom myself, and just want to post to the developer a major bug that I am having. I read throug the entire forum post for that rom, and no one else mentioned the issue that I'm having.
its pretty bazaar that I when I answer a call waiting call no one can hear me. If I switch back to the original call, the same problem happens no one can hear me. This is only when i get another incoming phone call.
The rom i installed is for Energy Rom sense 3.5
Haha, well, if we keep posting to places like this, I guess we'll soon hit our 10 post limit
FYI for anyone that cares, I just installed CleanGB v1.1.2 (for the Epic 4G):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22241642
So far it seems pretty good. If I run into any issues, I guess I'll be posting here again xP
As already stated. There are Q&A forums for most devices. Use them.
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I was just posting results of a new kernel I tried today and it dawned on me that the structure of these forums are not very good for giving feedback to devs or having devs receive feedback without digging through pages and pages of people having the same problems, but not searching. Then, people who want to try the rom/kernel/whatever ask "is this working for anyone?" since all they can see is problems people are having. Then, you'll generally get 1 or 2 posts confirming that everything works for 1 or 2 people, then back to problems that have already been addressed or are from improper set up (not wiping/wrong hboot/etc).
Now, that's how xda has been running pretty much since day 1. And that's all well and good, but if you want to try out the new version of cyanogenmod, for example, the first thing you do is check to be sure there aren't any major bugs that might turn your device into a paper weight. So you start reading every post on the development thread. After getting to page 15 and reading about all of the problems people are having for whatever reason, you day forget it and stick with whatever you were using before.
See, the issue here is that when a rom/kernel/whatever works, only a couple of people will confirm it. When someone had a specific problem, it may be just them, or others may be having it as well.
You can thank people, but what if you could +1 their posts to signify that you are having the same issue, or to simply agree that everything is working without adding clutter to the thread? Seems silly to just keep posting "this worked /didn't work for me too".
Thoughts? Comments?
Viper Rom baby!
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Viper Rom baby!
Sounds like a good ideea .
As you said , if is a lot easier just to see if , for example , a given solution is working by seeing how many ppl confirmed that it is working ( and not reading the next 20 pages of comments ).
You have my +1 on this
Haha thanks for the feedback. I think devs could have a dummy post just saying "everything works!" right on the first page that people could +1.
Also, this does seem to work kind of like a poll on a thread does, but the issue with polls is that they take up a lot of space, they aren't viewable on apps like tapatalk (AFAIK anyways), and you can't change your vote. Any other thoughts? Who would I bring this to to make it happen?
Viper Rom baby!
Bump. Any other thoughts?
ViperXL baby!