Byebye samsung. - Galaxy S 4 General

After having the s1, s2, s3 and now s4 also a note 2 i have come to the conclusion i hate samsung and their money grabbing and lack of support. This has been an issue across all the phones iv had from them. My current s4 heats up all the time so much lag across the various dynamics of the phone. And i havent even rooted this phone for a change.
Ive decided to give the htc one a shot. I wont change from android to ios dont like it.
See you all around the forums guys.
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iamsloany said:
After having the s1, s2, s3 and now s4 also a note 2 i have come to the conclusion i hate samsung and their money grabbing and lack of support. This has been an issue across all the phones iv had from them. My current s4 heats up all the time so much lag across the various dynamics of the phone. And i havent even rooted this phone for a change.
Ive decided to give the htc one a shot. I wont change from android to ios dont like it.
See you all around the forums guys.
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You should remove bloat ware it's making it slow my phone flies
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iamsloany said:
After having the s1, s2, s3 and now s4 also a note 2 i have come to the conclusion i hate samsung and their money grabbing and lack of support. This has been an issue across all the phones iv had from them. My current s4 heats up all the time so much lag across the various dynamics of the phone. And i havent even rooted this phone for a change.
Ive decided to give the htc one a shot. I wont change from android to ios dont like it.
See you all around the forums guys.
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Why don't you just install GE? After installing stock Android I couldn't be happier with my phone (screen is gorgeous and performance is great). :good: HTC One is also a great phone, but if I were you I'd just make do with the GE rom for now and then switch to the Nexus 5 in a month or so.

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Of course heats is a big problem!
but you should try uninstall Chrome and S voice.
Also i suggest u use a third party rom
that will be much better!!

Ive been through the latter of various roms and kernals but decided to stay stock with the s4 and man have i noticed the bloat slowing things down. But yeah dude the heat was enough for me to call my carrier explain the issue and they were more than happy to replace like for like or i could completly change so the htc had my attention.
I know nexus 5 is due but iv never been a big fan of standalone roms from the GE variants i do enjoy some bloat apps to which i genuinely use. But sammybhas just gotten too big for their boots in my opinion so im jumping ship so to speak lol. I had the choice of note 3 but do i really want spend an uneccesary £100 for the latest smartphone which is from Samsung yet again. Too many variants and not enough support.
Il always be milling around various forums the s2 s3 and note 2 are still in action running custom roms wife and kids totally unaware of course :screwy: but my time is done cheers guys for those i have made friends with in the sammy forums.
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I did the same thing you did and jumped ship to the htc one and dont get me wrong I love the One awesome built and its fast but I didnt like it...
Camera sucks, I had light leak on my second replacement device after the first one had a bad battery, bad battery life I can barely make it to 4:30 pm from 8 am, dead and stuck pixels on the new one after about a week of use and thats all I can remember for now but needless to say I am happily back with another s4 and soon to have a note 3

I hope the HTC suits your needs better. It's a beautiful device!
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good luck , i hope you will be satisfied with HTC.
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I am also tired of Samsung.
I will be buying Nexus 5.
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I had a HTC one and had swapped 3 before they offered me a s4 instead, HTC one gets really hot and because if the aluminium you notice it much more. Also every HTC one, I had came with problems. HTC one was faster with stock ROM
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OMG ! 5 guys aren't happy with their S4s. What is Samsung gonna do . Jokes aside, the overheat issue is a genuine issue. But somehow I don't have this overheating issue anymore after updating to latest firmware. My lag is minimal now. Works smoother than gs3 and note 2.
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OMG ! 5 guys aren't happy with their S4s. What is Samsung gonna do . Jokes aside, the overheat issue is a genuine issue. But somehow I don't have this overheating issue anymore after updating to latest firmware. My lag is minimal now. Works smoother than gs3 and note 2.
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Nice of you to do a headcount:thumbup:
Wasnt looking sarcasm:banghead:
Anyway last post from me on the S4 side of XDA......
And yeah i suppose most phones suffer from heat disappation from moderate to heavy usage but in my case light usage wasnt good enough. Il prob notice it with an alu case but at least it wont be a sammy casing for a change. We will see i guesd
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Best of luck with the new phone.
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Is samsung device good to buy

I am in confusion because I want to buy a new phone and I have three choices galaxy S4, htc one and xperia z...
I know their specifications on the paper..but never used...
Gs4 looks best on paper...but it is running on exynos processor and exynos is not open source..and not devloper friendly and I have heard that samsung doesnt has build quality... I have seen that many people broke their s2 and s3 from falling..and what about heating effects..
But although It has great features...
And xperia z and htc one has good build quality and they have Qualcomms chip inside them..
SO WHICH ONE SHOULD I PREFER TO BUY??
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Galaxy S4 is so amazing.. my choice is S4
So tell me what is good in s4
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The S3 has been my first Samsung device and I would definitely have no problems recommending Samsung to other people. As far as the S4 goes, my feelings are a little mixed. I very much like the specs on the phone, but I don't think I want to own another device which is subject to delayed updates (both manufacturer and carrier side). Having a Nexus 7, I think I'm going to stick with Nexus devices going forward.
Did ur device fall or something like that...
A lot of ppl were complaining that their device fall and screen has been broken
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What about custom roms I had heard that since exynos is closed source so its custom roms r buggy
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I wouldn't worry about the custom rom aspect of the S4. If there's a way to tweak it, the devs on this site will find a way, guaranteed. I Ann looking to upgrade as well. Super happy with my E4GT from Sammy, will most likely get the 4. Just my thoughts. Hope it helps you.
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Did ur device fall or something like that...
A lot of ppl were complaining that their device fall and screen has been broken
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I don't think it's just Samsung devices. There're going to have more broken screens, since they have sold so many devices. It's just a number game. I'm sure you can say the same for Apple owners...
Xperia z has a moderate display and camera....... Htc one can't replace the real beast(s4)
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HTC ONE Vs Galaxy S4

Hey guys i have made another video for those who are confused b/w S4 or ONE
Here is the speed and multitasking Comparison:
Here is the gaming comparison:
Hope you guys will love it and also i am helpful in buying the right one!
Which versions of the fw are you running? I've noticed a huge diversity in hangups/stutters and "lag" on the s4.
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Which versions of the fw are you running? I've noticed a huge diversity in hangups/stutters and "lag" on the s4.
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The latest stock version!
No idea what is latest. And as far as I know from reports, it seems the Scandinavian xxuame2 is less laggy than others (that's my current one btw) and that some areas has a different version as it's latest version.
See my confusion =) ?
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I compared i9505 and HTC One side by side, and One was smoother. I guess SGS4 doesnt have well optimized software yet.
Perhaps. Or the sw you have isn't the best version they've made so far. As mentioned, it differs from region to region it seems.
Can't say I feel a huge difference between my 920 snd my s4 in terms of smoothness. And 920 is pretty damn smooth.
The again it could be my fw contra yours that makes the difference.
So basically I think it's hard to compare one to s4 since there's several totally different "latest sw" on the market. Probably for both phones.
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The HTC One is noticeably smoother than the S4, no doubt.
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In the age old battle of HTC vs Samsung I can almost guarantee history will repeat. Samsung always comes out on top with better hardware, firmware, updates ect.. So yeah, maybe a stock ONE is slightly smoother than a stock S4 but give developers some time we'll see who takes prize.
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Just sold my HTC One device and kept my 9500, I thought the HTC One was a pretty boring device...
I have done the comparisons myself for the sake of what to keep, and all of them reviews and comparisons and not real, what is real is what I like not what others show me. Lags and whatever do not bother if I have to give up 50% of the value add features I get with the S4.
Big regrets to spend the money on the HTC One....
Thanks
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Perhaps. Or the sw you have isn't the best version they've made so far. As mentioned, it differs from region to region it seems.
Can't say I feel a huge difference between my 920 snd my s4 in terms of smoothness. And 920 is pretty damn smooth.
The again it could be my fw contra yours that makes the difference.
So basically I think it's hard to compare one to s4 since there's several totally different "latest sw" on the market. Probably for both phones.
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I personally think that samsung went with 4.2.2 which is buggy and slight laggy by itself. They also had less time to optimize the firmware. I have a lot of hopes that the s4 firmware will be optimized as much as the htc one in terms of performance.
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Might be something off with the 9500 and it's sw?
Not sure what the bugs in 4.2.2 are, haven't encountered any so far that I've noticed.
Maybe I got lucky with having my fw or maybe I'm just oblivious. I don't know.
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The multi tasking on the HTC One seemed faster because the SGS4 has the slow stock multi tasking animation which was introduced in 4.2.2.
Turn off all animations in developer options and see which is faster
Many are saying that the S4 IS HAVING SOFTWARE ISSUES BUT ALSO see that htc one is running 4.1.2 and maybe in 4.2.2 it will be more better!!
In my case here.. I asked my self what exactly do I want in a phone.. Build quality over functionality? Boom sound over 5inches screen? In the s4 I really got functionality while d one looks like a fast HTC X.. In terms of pixels, u can't differentiate cos anything over 400ppi is awesome. I hardly listen to music with the outer speakers so boom sound is not my thing. With the Samsung s4 I'm never bored. Games performance and bench marks kills the one. It's all about individual choice.
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In my case here.. I asked my self what exactly do I want in a phone.. Build quality over functionality? Boom sound over 5inches screen? In the s4 I really got functionality while d one looks like a fast HTC X.. In terms of pixels, u can't differentiate cos anything over 400ppi is awesome. I hardly listen to music with the outer speakers so boom sound is not my thing. With the Samsung s4 I'm never bored. Games performance and bench marks kills the one. It's all about individual choice.
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How do you feel the One is better than the s4 in functionality?
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Most people that uses the one primary got it cos the built. I prefer the s4 cos of the functionality. The one came with a blinkfeed same thing as flip board. There is nothing new in the one period.
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Most people that uses the one primary got it cos the built. I prefer the s4 cos of the functionality. The one came with a blinkfeed same thing as flip board. There is nothing new in the one period.
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Wrong, its much better implemented then flipboard could ever be.
S4 for me:
5 vs 4.7 on the same candy bar size, while being lighter.
When I decided there was no One Google version.
Having handled both for a while the One lost its "better quality" moniker. I don't like the feeling of carrying a metallic object in my pocket. It is nice to look at, but felt like a foreign object even holding it. And by the way the One is not that "premium" of a construction. Polished aluminum is not as nice as polished stainless steel (as seen on expensive watches)
Bottom line if the one was last year's flagship, it would have been an excellent choice. Now the s4 is simply better.
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S4 for me:
5 vs 4.7 on the same candy bar size, while being lighter.
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Not even the same size. One is actually a little taller with a smaller screen.
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Most people that uses the one primary got it cos the built. I prefer the s4 cos of the functionality. The one came with a blinkfeed same thing as flip board. There is nothing new in the one period.
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Ah but the build quality of the One is far worse than the quality of the s4. Thats why I thought you meant the s4 was the build quality and the One the functionality.
Harder to fix when damaged.
More prone to disfigurement upon impact.
Apparently quite a few phones are received with gaps in the chassis.
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[Q] which phone should I go to?

I have a note 2 but sadly my dad wants it and offered me a choice of s4 or htc one? Which one should I go to? I know most of their specifications but confused which to go for
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Can't he just get another note 2? I think the price is about the same or even lower than S4 or HTC One. Also the choice is based on personal preference their both great devices.
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Why doesn't he just buy a new note 2?
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mezo91 said:
I have a note 2 but sadly my dad wants it and offered me a choice of s4 or htc one? Which one should I go to? I know most of their specifications but confused which to go for
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well I spent a about two hours playing with both phones, both were very good phones, what made
the HTC stand out to me was first pinch and zoom , when i did this on the S4 it would not realign the
words into a single column , which meant i had to scroll side ways on the website while I read a article. I used CNet , Fox news , phonenet , TechRadar to test..
next was the sound ,
For such small speakers , the HTC One put out decent sound, makes it nice if you just want some back ground music
with out having to use the headphones...granted I use it in semi-quite environments ..
The S4 had a plastic feel to it while the HTC one felt really solid, you can twist the S4 where the HTC One you cannot..
I did give the S4 a solid going over, it did have a kinda cool thing where it would follow your eye movement, it work but
but needed improvement... I would have rather seen Samsung spend money on the phone then marketing
like a metal case.. and HTC gives you the tools to unlock the boot.
Depe ds on your preference. One has the stronger body, and S4 has a removable back, which means interchanging batteries, and getting custom designed backs for it. The S4 also has a micro sd (sorry if this was mentioned, for I'm only skimming through), which the One provides more storage for the same price.
The S4 focuses much more on the software features, while the One focuses more on the design of the hardware and software without being too intrusive or overbearing. Sense 5 UI found on the One is pretty sweet and lighter than previous versions of Sense, and also lighter than TouchWiz. TouchWiz is much more fun to explore with the many things that you can do with it.
They both have similar processor, with an exception of the clock speeds (the S4 is 200MHz faster, but the average user - and even some power users - will not tell the difference.
I'm intentionally omitting my preference, for that is irrelevant to your decision. I'm not trying to influence your decision, but provide my unbiased opinions. (Hopefully, no one has enough insight to my decision...)
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mezo91 said:
I have a note 2 but sadly my dad wants it and offered me a choice of s4 or htc one? Which one should I go to? I know most of their specifications but confused which to go for
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If you want a very good phone for its design quality, go with the HTC One.
If you are a Samsung fan and longtime user, go with the S4
Go for HTC One
mezo91 said:
I have a note 2 but sadly my dad wants it and offered me a choice of s4 or htc one? Which one should I go to? I know most of their specifications but confused which to go for
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If you can live with the 4 MP camera of HTC One then go for it. That's the only weak point of One against S4 I believe.

Touchwiz stock is the best

Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Hack Xda said:
Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Its a matter of opinion. Thats it.
Touchwiz is nice, especially on the S3 and above. I immediately install Nova or Apex over Touchwiz.
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Is apex good
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First off, get your facts straight. Touchwiz isn't a launcher, it's a framework, a UI if you will. It's more than a pesky easily-replaced launcher.
And it's a matter of personal preference. Some like the Touchwiz UI and some don't. I tend to favor the cleanliness, sleekness, smoothness and intuitiveness of a good aosp rom.
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You know what's great? We don't need to have these debates any more. Like TW? Leave your device alone. Like AOSP(ish), buy a GE device or flash the GE ROM. AOSP vs. a skin is like trying to debate which religion is best. There is no right answer and people will go to war defending their individual opinions and biases.
Apex is the best
With the pro version is osum
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Hack Xda said:
Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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So what are your suggesting? Close the S4 forum and stop rooting cause the S4 sold 20 mil without the need of root? Help me understand please thanks.
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Hack Xda said:
Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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I will root if my carrier decides to block tethering on the phone.
I will root to remove apps that came with the phone, but I do not want.
I will root to backup all the settings and data on my phone that I normally cant backup if I did not root.
I will root if I want to use a modified kernel to give me better battery life.
I will root to install call recording features that dont come with the phone.
Rooting is much more than just changing the UI... you are also able to change the nuts and bolts of the system to make it work the way you want because sometimes the carrier or samsung itself wont make things the way you like.
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Hack Xda said:
Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Samsung sold 20mil because it's fan base is similar to apple's, they target the same type of consumers. The majority of those who bought an s4 did it for the wrong reasons (there are always exceptions of course). Having the latest galaxy flagship is nearly equal to having the latest iphone nowadays, according to some people's "social standards".
Despite the fact that samsung phone's quality is questionable, sudden death on s3 and note (actually had it on my s3, and believe me it was a really frustrating experience), burn in amoled displays (had it on my galaxy nexus), smearing on s4, and many other problems these phones usually have. of course not to forget samsung's ability to produce lag in a 1.9ghz quad/2gb ram hardware and cheap build quality.. But still these phones sell, just shows you that with good marketing and publicity you can sell anything.
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I think everyone should just get a Note 2. Now that is one solid tight phone. Haven't been this satisfied with a phone since chocolate dipped macarons. Great battery life, solid build etc.
I cant believe i'd ever say this, but I was really put off by the S4 on paper, and even more so after playing with it for a while. So much lag everywhere etc.
Troll?
You're asking "why root?" on a site dedicated to development and customization, usually via rooting.
"not rooted or on a rom" then how does the phone work without a rom...?
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American Idol had 21 million viewers. By your logic that should be the only thing on TV from now on.
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Sell Nexus 5 and get Galaxy S5 ?

What do you think about Galaxy S5 ?
Is it worth alternative for a future upgrade ?
No
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It's a downgrade in my opinion. Touchwiz is really, really bad.
It depends what you want to do with the phone.. Are you trying to run custom Roms. Root has been achieved, but not sure if Knox will be cracked to get to the bootloader.. I would wait and see how it goes. The new HTC one may be a better route. I know you can use bootstrap to run customs Roms. I just don't think they run as good as when you have an unlocked bootloader.
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I played with an S5 in Best Buy yesterday. Definitely a downgrade. It's still stuttery like other galaxy phones, the new touch wiz leaves a lot to be desired. The only thing in my opinion that the s5 does better than the nexus is the camera. The only thing I personally would upgrade to would be the new HTC one at this point. I played with one of those too, very nice.
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What do you think about Galaxy S5 ?
Is it worth alternative for a future upgrade ?
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do you really want to change your $350 phone for a $600+ phone with nearly the same specs, some more gimmicks and a fugly UI? what will you use the extra 200MHz for? you wont feel the difference between the N5 and S5. well, maybe the N5 will feel smoother, since the new samsung crap UI appears to be choppy at some points. Quite honestly, after all the issues I had with samsung, I'd never consider going back to their devices. nuh uh.
If I got an S5 for free, I'd sell it then buy the Nexus 5.
you'll get better response if you ask in G5 forum
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If I got an S5 for free, I'd sell it then buy the Nexus 5.
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Seriously. The spec upgrade is so minor and touchwiz sucks. Why not get 300+ dollars in the bank and still stay top of the line?
spunkfaucet666 said:
I played with an S5 in Best Buy yesterday. Definitely a downgrade. It's still stuttery like other galaxy phones, the new touch wiz leaves a lot to be desired. The only thing in my opinion that the s5 does better than the nexus is the camera. The only thing I personally would upgrade to would be the new HTC one at this point. I played with one of those too, very nice.
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Is it so much sluttery ? Which model did you try ? SM-G900H ?
I tried M8 the other day (hasn't played with S5 yet), it was as fast as Nexus 5 while navigating through the menus and etc.
Get HTC One M8 GPE
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im done with htc and samsung is out of my league..i dislike sense and a GE rom is not a true nexus experience so nexus for me all the way
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hello00 said:
im done with htc and samsung is out of my league..i dislike sense and a GE rom is not a true nexus experience so nexus for me all the way
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Samsung can cripple any device`s speed with TW, i like Sense 100 times better tbh.
i have both a n5 and a s4. sure, by specs, the s4 holds its own, and appears to be better than the n5. but in reality, even with the s4 optimized and all the crap disabled, the s4 tends to lag and stutter. it feels like a phone from a few years ago, by the amount it tends to stutter. it doesnt feel like a phone with the specs it has. the n5 truly blows it away with real time use.
hello00 said:
im done with htc and samsung is out of my league..i dislike sense and a GE rom is not a true nexus experience so nexus for me all the way
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I had S4 GE in past and now on Nexus 5. They are exactly the same in terms of software.
The only downside, a new version of Android comes earlier to Nexus than to GE device.
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i have both a n5 and a s4. sure, by specs, the s4 holds its own, and appears to be better than the n5. but in reality, even with the s4 optimized and all the crap disabled, the s4 tends to lag and stutter. it feels like a phone from a few years ago, by the amount it tends to stutter. it doesnt feel like a phone with the specs it has. the n5 truly blows it away with real time use.
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How a snapdragon 600 can be better than snapdragon 800 ???
First, do what you want....we can't decide for you. ?
Second , it seems its getting harder and harder to play with new phones....some may never see root, or there will be complicated hack ways to root. Yes, many have dev type editions....but development for them is slow and limited. (Like moto x say)
So, if you like flashing and playing, the only sure bet now days is a nexus. If you can live with a quiet or non existant development community..... Then there's lots of great phones on the way or out. ?
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And personally.... If there's a chance I'd be stuck on touchwiz.......no way would I touch any samsung again. Lol
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Get this crap out of n5 general
Nexus5 forever
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I had S4 GE in past and now on Nexus 5. They are exactly the same in terms of software.
The only downside, a new version of Android comes earlier to Nexus than to GE device.
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they are the same but it does not have the same performance as if u were using a device with true aosp preinstalled..i had the GE htc one before and it is far behind as performance wise and sluggish
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