Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Its a matter of opinion. Thats it.
Touchwiz is nice, especially on the S3 and above. I immediately install Nova or Apex over Touchwiz.
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Is apex good
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First off, get your facts straight. Touchwiz isn't a launcher, it's a framework, a UI if you will. It's more than a pesky easily-replaced launcher.
And it's a matter of personal preference. Some like the Touchwiz UI and some don't. I tend to favor the cleanliness, sleekness, smoothness and intuitiveness of a good aosp rom.
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You know what's great? We don't need to have these debates any more. Like TW? Leave your device alone. Like AOSP(ish), buy a GE device or flash the GE ROM. AOSP vs. a skin is like trying to debate which religion is best. There is no right answer and people will go to war defending their individual opinions and biases.
Apex is the best
With the pro version is osum
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Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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So what are your suggesting? Close the S4 forum and stop rooting cause the S4 sold 20 mil without the need of root? Help me understand please thanks.
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Hack Xda said:
Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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I will root if my carrier decides to block tethering on the phone.
I will root to remove apps that came with the phone, but I do not want.
I will root to backup all the settings and data on my phone that I normally cant backup if I did not root.
I will root if I want to use a modified kernel to give me better battery life.
I will root to install call recording features that dont come with the phone.
Rooting is much more than just changing the UI... you are also able to change the nuts and bolts of the system to make it work the way you want because sometimes the carrier or samsung itself wont make things the way you like.
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Hack Xda said:
Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Samsung sold 20mil because it's fan base is similar to apple's, they target the same type of consumers. The majority of those who bought an s4 did it for the wrong reasons (there are always exceptions of course). Having the latest galaxy flagship is nearly equal to having the latest iphone nowadays, according to some people's "social standards".
Despite the fact that samsung phone's quality is questionable, sudden death on s3 and note (actually had it on my s3, and believe me it was a really frustrating experience), burn in amoled displays (had it on my galaxy nexus), smearing on s4, and many other problems these phones usually have. of course not to forget samsung's ability to produce lag in a 1.9ghz quad/2gb ram hardware and cheap build quality.. But still these phones sell, just shows you that with good marketing and publicity you can sell anything.
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I think everyone should just get a Note 2. Now that is one solid tight phone. Haven't been this satisfied with a phone since chocolate dipped macarons. Great battery life, solid build etc.
I cant believe i'd ever say this, but I was really put off by the S4 on paper, and even more so after playing with it for a while. So much lag everywhere etc.
Troll?
You're asking "why root?" on a site dedicated to development and customization, usually via rooting.
"not rooted or on a rom" then how does the phone work without a rom...?
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American Idol had 21 million viewers. By your logic that should be the only thing on TV from now on.
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My contract is almost up and I've been looking at phones, both upcoming and current. I'm also on att now.
My current phone is the Samsung infuse and I've been using many ROMs on that device. I've been looking into the HTC one x+. It has amazing specs. Also the gnote 2 is incredible but it may be a lil too large for carrying around.
I've never had a HTC phone but I've heard the ui is a little bit different. Samsung has touchwiz, but that can easily be changed though flashing ROMs. Is HTC sense something that is a love hate type of deal? I'm sure the development support will be great to fix that.
Just wondering others input. Been researching.
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In addition, from what I've read, the x+ doesn't have an SD card slot but has a 64 gig model. I use quite a bit of storage, but I'm sure the large model will be quite spendy.
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I enjoy sense on HTC but I know some people hate it. Definitely don't think its the worst custom UI out there
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I enjoy sense on HTC but I know some people hate it. Definitely don't think its the worst custom UI out there
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Hmm. Is flashing a ROM pretty much the only way to get around sense?
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galaxy s3... End of comment.
Sir, there is thread in place for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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Guys i m selling my i9003 i have learnt very much from this device about firmware custom Rom etc
But sorry to say bye ....Can any body tell me which phone should i buy .....Samsung galaxy SIII or Samsung Note 2?
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I would go for Note 2 without doubt. At similar prices (around 50-100$ diference) the Note 2 is much comfortable to use it with two hands, but Galaxy S3 is neither good on one or both hands (I hope this changes with s4)
Sincerely I will go for the HTC One (or One X+ although is a bit old). Only because of the materials, and the grip.
Yes definately go fot Galaxy Note 2.
or spend more and go for Galaxy S 4
cuz one simply doesnt go for an outdated phone
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Guys i m selling my i9003 i have learnt very much from this device about firmware custom Rom etc
But sorry to say bye ....Can any body tell me which phone should i buy .....Samsung galaxy SIII or Samsung Note 2?
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I think it's not a bright idea to choose between the 2 phone 'cus they both have the same problem when you use custom ROM. Check the team Hacksung wiki for the problems. If you like flashing, go to Sony phones (Xperia Z or ZL)
I just want better display..no laggy user interface...and most important it should get further updates.
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Then buy a Nexus
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Hey go for s4 or xperia z it will surely have good dev support
Actually i want to buy tomorrow only and xperia z price will fall like hell and i cant wait for s4
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Guys i m selling my i9003 i have learnt very much from this device about firmware custom Rom etc
But sorry to say bye ....Can any body tell me which phone should i buy .....Samsung galaxy SIII or Samsung Note 2?
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I bought the S3. It's a great phone and I have no regrets. It seems big at first coming from the SL, but 2 days later, it just fits perfectly in the hand and the size is about as big as is comfortable for one-handed use. I use my S3 with one hand all the time.
The Note 2 seems too big. But I have never owned one.
As for the UX, the S3 is unbelievably snappy. It never lags and the screen is BEAUTIFUL.
I am using the stock ROM because it really is better than CyanogenMod. Samsung really made a beautiful TouchWiz experience on the S3. I flashed CM10.1 and I felt like I was missing out on the great features Samsung put in the S3, so I went back to stock. Vanilla android seems too empty for such a powerful phone. TouchWiz makes sense.
You can wait for the S4, but I think the S3 isn't going to lose any attention anytime soon for being such a beast of a phone. Few S3 owners are going to upgrade to the S4. S4 buyers will probably be S1 and S2 owners as well as owners of other android phones. S3 to S4 isn't a significant enough upgrade for the investment. The S3 won't lose dev support, neither Samsung support. It's getting JB 4.2.1 shortly after the release of S4 and there's already a leaked firmware, but the current official ROM is 4.1.2.
PS: The S3 forum is a wild place with a horrible atmosphere. Since I bought my S3, I still visit the SL forum frequently and enjoy the energy here. Cheers!
Thanks
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NOTE 2 !!!!!
NOTE 2 is bigger, but u have to think if this is an advantage for you (maybe small hands :fingers-crossed:, or u find hard to keep it in ur jeans' pockets...). But i find NOTE 2 not very expensive and it has better performance than S3
So, what did you end up buying?
Galaxy s3...made for humans
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Welcome aboard, buddy.
I went from the SL to the S3 too. Don't regret it one bit! Welcome to the club man.
Those forums aren't as bad as I've seen some get, however, the atmosphere over here is great. Check out the S3's Indian owner's thread if you want an atmosphere like this.
Tip: try the Perseus kernel and play around with it a bit.
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Thanks brother
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I am in confusion because I want to buy a new phone and I have three choices galaxy S4, htc one and xperia z...
I know their specifications on the paper..but never used...
Gs4 looks best on paper...but it is running on exynos processor and exynos is not open source..and not devloper friendly and I have heard that samsung doesnt has build quality... I have seen that many people broke their s2 and s3 from falling..and what about heating effects..
But although It has great features...
And xperia z and htc one has good build quality and they have Qualcomms chip inside them..
SO WHICH ONE SHOULD I PREFER TO BUY??
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Galaxy S4 is so amazing.. my choice is S4
So tell me what is good in s4
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The S3 has been my first Samsung device and I would definitely have no problems recommending Samsung to other people. As far as the S4 goes, my feelings are a little mixed. I very much like the specs on the phone, but I don't think I want to own another device which is subject to delayed updates (both manufacturer and carrier side). Having a Nexus 7, I think I'm going to stick with Nexus devices going forward.
Did ur device fall or something like that...
A lot of ppl were complaining that their device fall and screen has been broken
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What about custom roms I had heard that since exynos is closed source so its custom roms r buggy
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I wouldn't worry about the custom rom aspect of the S4. If there's a way to tweak it, the devs on this site will find a way, guaranteed. I Ann looking to upgrade as well. Super happy with my E4GT from Sammy, will most likely get the 4. Just my thoughts. Hope it helps you.
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Did ur device fall or something like that...
A lot of ppl were complaining that their device fall and screen has been broken
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I don't think it's just Samsung devices. There're going to have more broken screens, since they have sold so many devices. It's just a number game. I'm sure you can say the same for Apple owners...
Xperia z has a moderate display and camera....... Htc one can't replace the real beast(s4)
I hate my X and love my Next.......... Conditions apply*
After having the s1, s2, s3 and now s4 also a note 2 i have come to the conclusion i hate samsung and their money grabbing and lack of support. This has been an issue across all the phones iv had from them. My current s4 heats up all the time so much lag across the various dynamics of the phone. And i havent even rooted this phone for a change.
Ive decided to give the htc one a shot. I wont change from android to ios dont like it.
See you all around the forums guys.
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After having the s1, s2, s3 and now s4 also a note 2 i have come to the conclusion i hate samsung and their money grabbing and lack of support. This has been an issue across all the phones iv had from them. My current s4 heats up all the time so much lag across the various dynamics of the phone. And i havent even rooted this phone for a change.
Ive decided to give the htc one a shot. I wont change from android to ios dont like it.
See you all around the forums guys.
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You should remove bloat ware it's making it slow my phone flies
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iamsloany said:
After having the s1, s2, s3 and now s4 also a note 2 i have come to the conclusion i hate samsung and their money grabbing and lack of support. This has been an issue across all the phones iv had from them. My current s4 heats up all the time so much lag across the various dynamics of the phone. And i havent even rooted this phone for a change.
Ive decided to give the htc one a shot. I wont change from android to ios dont like it.
See you all around the forums guys.
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Why don't you just install GE? After installing stock Android I couldn't be happier with my phone (screen is gorgeous and performance is great). :good: HTC One is also a great phone, but if I were you I'd just make do with the GE rom for now and then switch to the Nexus 5 in a month or so.
Adios
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Of course heats is a big problem!
but you should try uninstall Chrome and S voice.
Also i suggest u use a third party rom
that will be much better!!
Ive been through the latter of various roms and kernals but decided to stay stock with the s4 and man have i noticed the bloat slowing things down. But yeah dude the heat was enough for me to call my carrier explain the issue and they were more than happy to replace like for like or i could completly change so the htc had my attention.
I know nexus 5 is due but iv never been a big fan of standalone roms from the GE variants i do enjoy some bloat apps to which i genuinely use. But sammybhas just gotten too big for their boots in my opinion so im jumping ship so to speak lol. I had the choice of note 3 but do i really want spend an uneccesary £100 for the latest smartphone which is from Samsung yet again. Too many variants and not enough support.
Il always be milling around various forums the s2 s3 and note 2 are still in action running custom roms wife and kids totally unaware of course :screwy: but my time is done cheers guys for those i have made friends with in the sammy forums.
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I did the same thing you did and jumped ship to the htc one and dont get me wrong I love the One awesome built and its fast but I didnt like it...
Camera sucks, I had light leak on my second replacement device after the first one had a bad battery, bad battery life I can barely make it to 4:30 pm from 8 am, dead and stuck pixels on the new one after about a week of use and thats all I can remember for now but needless to say I am happily back with another s4 and soon to have a note 3
I hope the HTC suits your needs better. It's a beautiful device!
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good luck , i hope you will be satisfied with HTC.
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I am also tired of Samsung.
I will be buying Nexus 5.
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I had a HTC one and had swapped 3 before they offered me a s4 instead, HTC one gets really hot and because if the aluminium you notice it much more. Also every HTC one, I had came with problems. HTC one was faster with stock ROM
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OMG ! 5 guys aren't happy with their S4s. What is Samsung gonna do . Jokes aside, the overheat issue is a genuine issue. But somehow I don't have this overheating issue anymore after updating to latest firmware. My lag is minimal now. Works smoother than gs3 and note 2.
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OMG ! 5 guys aren't happy with their S4s. What is Samsung gonna do . Jokes aside, the overheat issue is a genuine issue. But somehow I don't have this overheating issue anymore after updating to latest firmware. My lag is minimal now. Works smoother than gs3 and note 2.
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Nice of you to do a headcount:thumbup:
Wasnt looking sarcasm:banghead:
Anyway last post from me on the S4 side of XDA......
And yeah i suppose most phones suffer from heat disappation from moderate to heavy usage but in my case light usage wasnt good enough. Il prob notice it with an alu case but at least it wont be a sammy casing for a change. We will see i guesd
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Best of luck with the new phone.
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What do you think about Galaxy S5 ?
Is it worth alternative for a future upgrade ?
No
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It's a downgrade in my opinion. Touchwiz is really, really bad.
It depends what you want to do with the phone.. Are you trying to run custom Roms. Root has been achieved, but not sure if Knox will be cracked to get to the bootloader.. I would wait and see how it goes. The new HTC one may be a better route. I know you can use bootstrap to run customs Roms. I just don't think they run as good as when you have an unlocked bootloader.
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I played with an S5 in Best Buy yesterday. Definitely a downgrade. It's still stuttery like other galaxy phones, the new touch wiz leaves a lot to be desired. The only thing in my opinion that the s5 does better than the nexus is the camera. The only thing I personally would upgrade to would be the new HTC one at this point. I played with one of those too, very nice.
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What do you think about Galaxy S5 ?
Is it worth alternative for a future upgrade ?
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do you really want to change your $350 phone for a $600+ phone with nearly the same specs, some more gimmicks and a fugly UI? what will you use the extra 200MHz for? you wont feel the difference between the N5 and S5. well, maybe the N5 will feel smoother, since the new samsung crap UI appears to be choppy at some points. Quite honestly, after all the issues I had with samsung, I'd never consider going back to their devices. nuh uh.
If I got an S5 for free, I'd sell it then buy the Nexus 5.
you'll get better response if you ask in G5 forum
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If I got an S5 for free, I'd sell it then buy the Nexus 5.
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Seriously. The spec upgrade is so minor and touchwiz sucks. Why not get 300+ dollars in the bank and still stay top of the line?
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I played with an S5 in Best Buy yesterday. Definitely a downgrade. It's still stuttery like other galaxy phones, the new touch wiz leaves a lot to be desired. The only thing in my opinion that the s5 does better than the nexus is the camera. The only thing I personally would upgrade to would be the new HTC one at this point. I played with one of those too, very nice.
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Is it so much sluttery ? Which model did you try ? SM-G900H ?
I tried M8 the other day (hasn't played with S5 yet), it was as fast as Nexus 5 while navigating through the menus and etc.
Get HTC One M8 GPE
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im done with htc and samsung is out of my league..i dislike sense and a GE rom is not a true nexus experience so nexus for me all the way
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im done with htc and samsung is out of my league..i dislike sense and a GE rom is not a true nexus experience so nexus for me all the way
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Samsung can cripple any device`s speed with TW, i like Sense 100 times better tbh.
i have both a n5 and a s4. sure, by specs, the s4 holds its own, and appears to be better than the n5. but in reality, even with the s4 optimized and all the crap disabled, the s4 tends to lag and stutter. it feels like a phone from a few years ago, by the amount it tends to stutter. it doesnt feel like a phone with the specs it has. the n5 truly blows it away with real time use.
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im done with htc and samsung is out of my league..i dislike sense and a GE rom is not a true nexus experience so nexus for me all the way
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I had S4 GE in past and now on Nexus 5. They are exactly the same in terms of software.
The only downside, a new version of Android comes earlier to Nexus than to GE device.
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i have both a n5 and a s4. sure, by specs, the s4 holds its own, and appears to be better than the n5. but in reality, even with the s4 optimized and all the crap disabled, the s4 tends to lag and stutter. it feels like a phone from a few years ago, by the amount it tends to stutter. it doesnt feel like a phone with the specs it has. the n5 truly blows it away with real time use.
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How a snapdragon 600 can be better than snapdragon 800 ???
First, do what you want....we can't decide for you. ?
Second , it seems its getting harder and harder to play with new phones....some may never see root, or there will be complicated hack ways to root. Yes, many have dev type editions....but development for them is slow and limited. (Like moto x say)
So, if you like flashing and playing, the only sure bet now days is a nexus. If you can live with a quiet or non existant development community..... Then there's lots of great phones on the way or out. ?
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And personally.... If there's a chance I'd be stuck on touchwiz.......no way would I touch any samsung again. Lol
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Get this crap out of n5 general
Nexus5 forever
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I had S4 GE in past and now on Nexus 5. They are exactly the same in terms of software.
The only downside, a new version of Android comes earlier to Nexus than to GE device.
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they are the same but it does not have the same performance as if u were using a device with true aosp preinstalled..i had the GE htc one before and it is far behind as performance wise and sluggish
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