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Here comes the thinner, lighter iPad?

After two generations of relatively hefty 9.7-inch iPads, Apple may finally be ready to ship a lighter “iPad 5.”
The 9.7-inch iPad 5 is expected to have narrow side bezels like the iPad Mini.
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A full-size iPad that gets closer to the lean design of the iPad Mini may finally be on the way.
Production of the fifth-generation iPad is slated to begin in July, according to a report from Taipei-based Digitimes.
The new 9.7-inch iPad will be 25 percent to 33 percent lighter than the iPad 4, Digitimes said.
The report echoes information supplied to CNET in April by NPD DisplaySearch.
Specifically, the 2,048×1,536 pixel-density Retina display (same pixel density as the iPad 4) will have thinner glass — achieved by using new touch sensor technology — and, most importantly, a less bulky backlight apparatus, according to Digitimes.
NPD DisplaySearch told CNET in April that “part of the thinner/lighter design will be reducing the size of the LED backlight, partly by making the display more efficient and partly by using more efficient LEDs.” DisplaySearch also cited the likely shift to a “a film-based touch sensor.”
The third- and fourth-generation iPads gained heft and thickness — compared with the iPad 2 – due mostly to technologies supporting the Retina display, including a relatively large backlight assembly.
Monthly shipments of the “iPad 5″ are expected to ramp up to 2 million to 3 million units by September, said Digitimes, citing sources in the supply chain.

We have a 'No Apple' rule.
Amazing how Apple users keep paying ridiculous amounts of money for the same bloody hardware specs over and over and over again for years......
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Change the pad world again!:fingers-crossed:

ShadowLea said:
We have a 'No Apple' rule.
Amazing how Apple users keep paying ridiculous amounts of money for the same bloody hardware specs over and over and over again for years......
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Wurd. Let alone Apple people posting on xda
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ipad 2 is enough for me .
and there's no need to update it , i think. even thinner and lighter
if i already have one ., new ipad will not make me to update it

i won't repalce my ipad 2 unless the new one can change the world again

Apple iPad Retina Display Wi Fi Cellular 32GB White is thin and light weight

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Apple iPad Retina Display Wi Fi Cellular 32GB White is thin and light weight
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And a pile of crap too
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Sorry, But I still like my Google Nexus 7.

webbjames said:
Sorry, But I still like my Google Nexus 7.
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haha,,,nexus is good

iNew i6000 (and other Chinese 6.45" FHD phones) - $250

So lately I've been looking into gigantic Chinese phones, and I came across this one, a 6.45 inch, 1080p behemoth that goes by a variety of names:
Orientphone Mega 6.5
iNew i6000
Actwell i6000
Firefly T65
Carpad V65
And probably some others. The cheapest I've been able to find was Mode edit: link to commercial site removed[/url].
Anyway, they're all gigantic phones with the Xperia Z U screen (?) but slower internal hardware, specifically an MT6589T quad-core 1.5Ghz processor and either 1 or 2 gigs of ram. They get an Antutu score of 14k-ish (for the 1 gig version), according to an earlier post on Gizchina.
Anyway, I'm thinking of getting one, and I wanted to ask if anyone else has one, or if any devs are thinking of getting one. They strike me as a much better buy than the Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, which has an inferior screen and is close to $300 more expensive. My biggest qualm is the fact that the operating system probably won't ever be upgraded, unless the XDA people get to it.
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I'm waiting to hear actual user feedback on these phones before I order one. Promotional videos from resellers don't really tell me if you need the 1 gig or 2 gig ram version. After hearing about the problems with the 1gig Huawei Ascend mate im a bit hesitant.

I would love to know more about this phone a I am considering it.
It looks lovely anyhow, especially the black one.

Definitely the black looks better.

laggy browsing?
I was ready to buy one until I saw this video. Look at it browsing the National Geographic from 1:17 onwards. I don't know if Adobe Flash has something to do with it but the performance looks poor. Also the screen and app drawer swiping looks to not be as instant as on my Nexus 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDffLX4nzMY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Look at the stuttering from 8:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccf1r5jaOLM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

the black looks better :laugh::fingers-crossed:

cmit37 said:
I was ready to buy one until I saw this video. Look at it browsing the National Geographic from 1:17 onwards. I don't know if Adobe Flash has something to do with it but the performance looks poor. Also the screen and app drawer swiping looks to not be as instant as on my Nexus 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDffLX4nzMY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Look at the stuttering from 8:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccf1r5jaOLM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wouldn't be concerned about that stuttering as it looks like a youtube issue. I have seen plenty of videos of its hd playback which all looked fine. I'm pretty sure that getting the 2gb ram version would help with any slowdowns as well.

Well, I'm pretty sure that it's going to have more lag than the Nexus 4, which is a premium smartphone and also has a much smaller screen to power. Antutu scores I've seen have been in the 13.5k-14k range, whereas Google tells me that the Nexus 4 is 15k-ish, I think? That's actually a smaller gap than I thought it would be, especially given that the Antutu scores I've seen for the iNew have been for the 1Gb version. But anyway, yeah, these phones are not going to compete with the Nexus series for power, but they're also somewhat cheaper and, of course, have much bigger screens.
By the way, there is a new Chinese smartphone in this category: the Goophone S4 Mega. They seem to only come in the 2 gig variant, but can be found for just north of $300. The best price I've seen for the iNew was $265 after shipping, so there's about a $40 price premium for the extra RAM.

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Well, I'm pretty sure that it's going to have more lag than the Nexus 4, which is a premium smartphone and also has a much smaller screen to power. Antutu scores I've seen have been in the 13.5k-14k range, whereas Google tells me that the Nexus 4 is 15k-ish, I think? That's actually a smaller gap than I thought it would be, especially given that the Antutu scores I've seen for the iNew have been for the 1Gb version. But anyway, yeah, these phones are not going to compete with the Nexus series for power, but they're also somewhat cheaper and, of course, have much bigger screens.
By the way, there is a new Chinese smartphone in this category: the Goophone S4 Mega. They seem to only come in the 2 gig variant, but can be found for just north of $300. The best price I've seen for the iNew was $265 after shipping, so there's about a $40 price premium for the extra RAM.
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Good find on that Goophone mega. I'm sure its just another rebranding, but with 2gig ram standard for $309.00 from their webstore its a good deal.

I am not sure if these phablets represent value when you can buy the premium Nexus 4 for $350 from Google Play. The 2GB versions of the 6.5"Chinese phablets including delivery work out to a similar price.
At $250 for the 2GB version I might give them a go but not at the current price.
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cmit37 said:
I am not sure if these phablets represent value when you can buy the premium Nexus 4 for $350 from Google Play. The 2GB versions of the 6.5"Chinese phablets including delivery work out to a similar price.
At $250 for the 2GB version I might give them a go but not at the current price.
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A bit overpriced for china devices. I agree with your Nexus 4 point.

Wow I fan of gaint phones, but look like non of it have LTE or Wimax only 3g
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anazhd said:
A bit overpriced for china devices. I agree with your Nexus 4 point.
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I agree, but you can't get a large screen device for a really cheap price. And the nexus 4 is a 4.7 inch screen and simply doesn't compare. If you want a similar chinese phone with a 4.7 inch screen you can get something that costs less than $200, as long as you don't need LTE.

Yeah, these phones are meant to compete with the Galaxy Mega, which is currently $500-ish and has worse specs. The Nexus 4 would definitely have better performance, but costs $100 more than the cheapest price I've seen for the 1GB version ($265 with shipping) and has a much, much smaller screen.
It's basically all about how much you want a giant phone. For me, the closest competitor is the first-gen Galaxy Note, which is about $200 used on Ebay and, of course, has better connectivity in the US (as with most Chinese phones, none of the vendors seem to be certain whether the iNew supports the 1900Mhz baseband) as well as basically guaranteed OS updates via Cyanogenmod.

Nothing else like it
if you're like me and want a real phablet, there's nothing else like this one.
1st - carpad t65 is something else. An older-gen-look (generic-looking) phone. The iNew is much better looking, has stereo speakers (chinese speakers are lousy so the carpad's single should be useless for speakerphone, let alone listening to music).
Goophone is not out yet. The demo pics are fake (you san see the samsung logo photoshopped out) and not too sure about the video. Maybe a Galaxy Mega 6.3 shown next to a 5.7, or maybe it's real - but not on sale yet.
The i6000 has the same screen as Sony's Togari phablet which is yet to be launched. Much better specs than the Galaxy Mega 6.3 or the much smaller Note 2. Also, FHD is a must on a screen this big.
And the Nexus 4 is tiny in comparison.
A good competitor would be the ViVo xplay - only it's "only" 5.7", pricier, and won't connect to the network I'm using.
I really want this phone - only problem is they're sold out on Black phones and 2/32GB phones, and I really don't want a 1/16GB white one. Will wait patiently.

Anyone can confirm what WCDMA band it supports? From the inew website it supports 850 and 2100 only, that means no 3G speed on AT&T and T-Mobile.

The Goophone S4 Mega seems to have a 2400mAh battery and for a 6.4-inch FHD screen that seems a bit on the small side.
I've asked several Chinese retailers when a black iNew i6000 2G/32GB will be available and I am waiting for replies.

Got mine yesterday (inew 1gb version) And I have to say. Quality seems good and performance in chrome beta is very good as well.
Color reproduction seems decent, screen has clear backlight bleeding and readability in the sun is do-able but not good.
No real issue so far.
Also good 3g performance here in Holland with Vodafone

Brilliant - actual user review.
Where did you buy it from? What other phone do you have/are you familiar with and how are you finding the overall performance compared with it?
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cmit37 said:
Brilliant - actual user review.
Where did you buy it from? What other phone do you have/are you familiar with and how are you finding the overall performance compared with it?
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I bought it via aliExpress
My previous phone was a note II. Compared to that the performance is a bit lower but mostly to aggressive memory management. (apps in the background close quite quickly).
I have not rooted it yet. I first have asked iNew how to factory reset it in case of a error first.

Moto X style vs OnePlus two.

So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.

Personal opinion for everything within; don't quote me as gospel. Have a google around yourself and make your own decisions based on that.
SD808 vs SD810; the SD808 is used in the LG G4 whilst the HTC One M9 uses the SD810 so you should be able to get a basic idea from this comparison. As far as I know about the LG G4, the SD808 performs really well and doesn't leave you wanting for nothing. I personally don't own a G4 so a G4 owner and M9 owner could answer this better. Have a look online and see what people are saying. Linus Tech Tips have video reviews for both phones so that may also be some help for you.
3gb vs 4gb ram; I don't think this is really going to affect mobile users. If we take a look at apple, the ipad air has 1gb ram and performs really well. Same with the iphone 6 and I don't know anyone who owns one that complains about it. Granted, iOS and android are two different beasts - but if 1gb is fine over there, 3gb should be more than sufficient for us.
USB Type-C; even though native support for USB Type-C is coming around in Android M, I don't think the adoption for it will be very quick. I know apple has it on their new macbook air (I believe) - but widespread adoption will be some time from now. Micro-USB is still going to be around for a while imo and won't be an issue for the Moto X.
Again, personal opinion. I'd go for the Moto X based on the fact that Motorola have a good name behind them, build good quality phones that last and have a decent customer service track record, whereas if you look on the oneplus forums (I'd say take it with a pinch of salt but you may need a barrel of salt) you'll find quite a lot of complaints regarding Oneplus' customer service. Granted, they are quite a young company and these issues may not be around for much longer as they work out the kinks in their processes but it's something to consider as every so often, there will be a faulty phone and it may just be your bad luck in getting the bad egg.

Skyerin said:
Personal opinion for everything within; don't quote me as gospel. Have a google around yourself and make your own decisions based on that.
SD808 vs SD810; the SD808 is used in the LG G4 whilst the HTC One M9 uses the SD810 so you should be able to get a basic idea from this comparison. As far as I know about the LG G4, the SD808 performs really well and doesn't leave you wanting for nothing. I personally don't own a G4 so a G4 owner and M9 owner could answer this better. Have a look online and see what people are saying. Linus Tech Tips have video reviews for both phones so that may also be some help for you.
3gb vs 4gb ram; I don't think this is really going to affect mobile users. If we take a look at apple, the ipad air has 1gb ram and performs really well. Same with the iphone 6 and I don't know anyone who owns one that complains about it. Granted, iOS and android are two different beasts - but if 1gb is fine over there, 3gb should be more than sufficient for us.
USB Type-C; even though native support for USB Type-C is coming around in Android M, I don't think the adoption for it will be very quick. I know apple has it on their new macbook air (I believe) - but widespread adoption will be some time from now. Micro-USB is still going to be around for a while imo and won't be an issue for the Moto X.
Again, personal opinion. I'd go for the Moto X based on the fact that Motorola have a good name behind them, build good quality phones that last and have a decent customer service track record, whereas if you look on the oneplus forums (I'd say take it with a pinch of salt but you may need a barrel of salt) you'll find quite a lot of complaints regarding Oneplus' customer service. Granted, they are quite a young company and these issues may not be around for much longer as they work out the kinks in their processes but it's something to consider as every so often, there will be a faulty phone and it may just be your bad luck in getting the bad egg.
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Yeah, inclining towards the X style for now. Will wait for both's reviews now. Also, the 1+2 is priced at 25,000 (389$) in my country, and the new moto X 16gb version is priced at 399$, so that'll probably convert to 26,000 + leather/wood back ones are 2,000 extra so I guess the 64gb one will be priced around 35k, which is 40% higher price than 1+2. This one is a real doozy, both these phones at the end of the day are equal.
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bhu1 said:
Yeah, inclining towards the X style for now. Will wait for both's reviews now. Also, the 1+2 is priced at 25,000 (389$) in my country, and the new moto X 16gb version is priced at 399$, so that'll probably convert to 26,000 + leather/wood back ones are 2,000 extra so I guess the 64gb one will be priced around 35k, which is 40% higher price than 1+2. This one is a real doozy, both these phones at the end of the day are equal.
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One thing that may sway you towards the OP2 is that apparently (read this in a news article - take it with a barrel of salt again!) OP is concentrating heavily on selling around a million units in India, so they may be giving better support whereas Motorola may not be as prevalent in terms of support. Can't say for certain - not from and never been to India - but speaking from my experiences and knowledge of being in Pakistan for quite a while.
Also, if specs don't bother you too much, it may be an idea to look heavily at the moto x play, simply because of the huge battery whilst still being a really powerful phone.

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One thing that may sway you towards the OP2 is that apparently (read this in a news article - take it with a barrel of salt again!) OP is concentrating heavily on selling around a million units in India, so they may be giving better support whereas Motorola may not be as prevalent in terms of support. Can't say for certain - not from and never been to India - but speaking from my experiences and knowledge of being in Pakistan for quite a while.
Also, if specs don't bother you too much, it may be an idea to look heavily at the moto x play, simply because of the huge battery whilst still being a really powerful phone.
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Nah, OnePlus can't compete with moto's customer service. Even if they can, then also, not a big deal, customer service, it just needs to be good, I don't need it to be great. And no moto play for me, I decided that I'll buy a flagship, so I'll buy a flagship.
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iOS and Android system have much differences, that's why 1gb RAM feels so different between Android and iOS..
I've found complete explanation of it but forgot the source *sorry*
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Come on be serious...what comparison is this. Compare 1+1 with 1+2 or 1+2 with my 4 years old htc sensation
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bhu1 said:
So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.
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Depending on how you use your phone and how each phone handles battery life, the rate of charging might not be a factor to consider. If you burn through battery (and/or the phone itself helps) and can't get a days worth then fast charging should be important. If you don't use your phone much, turn radios off, etc. and charge your phone when you are asleep then either method of charging will do. Neither phone has wireless charging so you'd have to look elsewhere to get it. Feel is totally subjective and ONLY important for your tastes/wants. The screen is a contentious issue as some don't see a difference between 2k and 1080p, think the increase is worth the battery hit, or other reasons specific to the screens compared. If DxO is to be believed then the rear sensor in the Style is something to be reckoned with.
In real life usage, the 808 or 810 should be close to each other. The 808 is only "missing" two "Big" A57 cores when compared to the 810. The real difference is in benchmarks where having the "missing" cores will show better scores. With an almost stock Android interface the Style should show no feeling that "it needs more." I have no experience with OnePlus (or Moto and their OS optimizations) phones to speak on how Oxygen OS behaves. Since both phones aren't out to buy and be reviewed, any talk beforehand is just speculation. Wait for reviews from people you trust for an opinion or get a hand-on yourself on the UX "feel."
The amount of RAM you "need" or "should have" is debatable. If you play a lot of games and switch between heavy RAM-usage apps (or a lot of them) frequently, more RAM is beneficial. The type of RAM is cut-and-dry. LPDDR4 is simply better than LPDDR3. AS A STANDARD LPDDR4 operates at faster speeds AND uses less power than LPDDR3. Whether OnePlus has taken full advantage of the benefits has not been disclosed and no one has a device to find out the speed their RAM runs at for a definite conclusion.
USB Type-C is the "cable to end cables" when properly implemented. Full stop. Type-C was created with USB 3.1 and ALL of its benefits come with 3.1 AND software that enables those features. For the actual cable, Type-C brings a reversible plug (like Lightning) so there isn't a correct way you can plug the cable in. USB 2.0 (most likely in the Style too) will max at around 20 MB/s when transferring files to your computer or another device, and will be slower for smaller files. USB 3.0 and 3.1 will transfer at MUCH faster speeds with larger files. You can learn more about 3.1 and Type-C here and with a quick search. Other Type-C features aren't worth discussing as neither phone can take advantage of them.
Contact-less payments are supposed to finally take-off with the launch of Android (and Samsung) Pay to give that "extra push" to retailers that this is a feature that most would take advantage of when consumers can. Honestly, Apple Pay sowed the seed for contact-less payments. If contact-less payments is something you can see yourself doing then the OnePlus2 will not allow you to do so. Speaker quality or stereo speakers is a nice feature to have and should be considered if you play any media over the speakers. I have no comment with eithers' Costumer Support reputation.
For me, the decision between the OnePlus2 and Style is a no brainer. The OnePlus2 makes too many concessions against OnePlus' OWN BELIEFS and against the Style to make this a hard decision. Which is why I'll be replacing my G2 with the Style at some point this year, unless the new Nexus phone(s) are compelling enough

Think I may finally jump on a new phone, the Moto X Play or whatever it's being called for Verizon. That's a bit confusing. But Moto's radios are the best, a big factor, plus they finally went back to SD cards. I keep hearing the screen will not be tops due to it not being Amoled. Guess I'll have to check it out first before jumping. Also want it rooted, so I'm not going to be the one to jump first when it's sold so I can find out if it'll be rooted. But I'm definitely leaning towards that. It's either this or probably going to find a Note 4 developers addition and go that route...hard choices....

Moto x pure edition, not play
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Which is why I'll be replacing my G2 with the Style at some point this year, unless the new Nexus phone(s) are compelling enough
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Nexus line of phones will never provide microSD card slot (google wants you to use its cloud!), and the 64GB version will make you pay 100$ more than the basic 16GB model. The best 64GB cards are under 30$ right now. So, I essentially get 80GB of storage with Style for 70$ less. Give me Style any day over Nexus or even OP2 (which gives 64GB for 389).
More than that though, its the camera and front facing stereo speakers that excite me about Style. We will see when it comes out.

bhu1 said:
So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.
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same thing happened to me
I'm dropping the two and will pick the moto x pure because it has the following that the two refused to add:
microsd slot
rapid charge
21 mp camera
front facing stereo speakers
invite-less purchase
but then that might change when the moto x pure is released

Id give the nod to the moto for several reasons the 3 big ones being.
ext sd card support, this is huge
Slightly larger screen
Moto customer support. If you read anything about OPO one thing is for sure in that their support is terrible.
Thats 3 reasons enough for me.:thumbup:
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I was inclined towards the one plus two before launch. Had really big expectations. But Moto X Style has upped the stakes. The only problem is availability and pricing. In India the customer service of Motorola is good. Only if Motorola announces the availability and pricing
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At this point I'd say moto x is my pick, one plus invite system is a turn off and is already starting to make me not want to get the device.

I still don't get their reasoning for leaving out NFC from the OP2. They claim it wasn't widely used and it added cost, yet they decided to add a fingerprint sensor...

Jweimn said:
At this point I'd say moto x is my pick, one plus invite system is a turn off and is already starting to make me not want to get the device.
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And theres an artlicle online where someone says he cheated the invite reservation system haha. But yeah its all a joke tbh as you spam people to go up the list.
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Think I may finally jump on a new phone, the Moto X Play or whatever it's being called for Verizon. That's a bit confusing. But Moto's radios are the best, a big factor, plus they finally went back to SD cards. I keep hearing the screen will not be tops due to it not being Amoled. Guess I'll have to check it out first before jumping. Also want it rooted, so I'm not going to be the one to jump first when it's sold so I can find out if it'll be rooted. But I'm definitely leaning towards that. It's either this or probably going to find a Note 4 developers addition and go that route...hard choices....
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I tried a Samsung Note 3 and I lost 7% of my calls according to Verizon. I switched to a Motorola n6 six months ago and haven't lost a call since. My dBm ranges from 100 to 121 (right now it 114). Motorola is the only one that can hold on to a phone call where I live. So, I will only buy Motorola phones from now on.

I had the OPO for about a year and finally was able to return it.
Too many touch issues and since getting Lollipop I've had nothing but battery issues. I tried many roms however I couldn't stand it.
I tried the Moto X 2nd gen for 2 days and fell in love.
Currently i'm testing out the Nexus 6 to see if I can handle the screen size, so far it's good however I'd like it to be a little smaller so I think the new Moto X might be fine.
I wish they went with a 5.5 and non QHD or at least went with a bigger battery.
I'm hoping the new Moto X's camera will be better than the Nexus 6

If I was rich I would get both. But the biggest advantage of the oneplus2 will likely be battery life. I have a feeling that the oneplus2 will be easier to hold. I like the fact that you can program the capacitive buttons on either side of the home button. But overall the moto x style would get my hard earned money. Software and screen quality/size give it the leg up on the oneplus2 for me.

Note 5, no micro SD, so what's the alternative?

Am hoping this is not a DUP post,
With the details recently been released, the note 5 has no micro SD storage.
Am wondering what you fellow note users are considering as the best upgrade?
I love the note series, I love the size an the power of the device.
With no additional storage, this is a deal breaker for me.
My upgrade is due in a couple of months.
Just interested on your thoughts on possible alternative devices you may be considering.
I don't know of the S series of Samsung is enough of a replacement.
The note 3, may be the last of the Samsung series for me.
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Believe me, there is NO alternative of Note series. When a person gets used with Note series nothing can impress or make them happy any more.
So you either get the Note 5 or stick with your Note 3, or maybe get a Note 4, it's still a great phone.
We don't have any contract stuffs here but I like to update every one year or so, and I am really confused too. Was hellbent that Note 5 would be my upgrade, but now after seeing it I am doubtful that I will upgrade to it. I mean no SD card is no big deal for me, nor is the non-removable battery, but same screen size and smaller battery capacity is weird! But maybe after a couple of months or so I will eventually end up with buying it, simple because there is no device in this planet which could come even remotely close to a Note
What the heck is Sony and HTC doing for all this long for God's sake!

I am due for upgrade...but no SD card ....deal breaker....as I bring media on the road....maybe going for huawei p8 Max....a giant 6.8inch pH.
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I'm glad to see samsung moving to Li-Po from Li-Ion.
But removing the Micro SD slot is stupid, what where they thinking.
Also lack of usb3.
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there is note 5 thread by the way note edge is so much better than s6 edge + note 4 more better than note 4

I would not upgrade to the Note 4, I don't see this as a viable upgrade.
I may have to bite the bullet, find a device with the same size screen an similar hardware specs.
Its just going to be a challenge to drop the S pen.
The edge was a close competitor, need to go onto a store to have a play an feel.
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I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 off of Craigs, if I can find one for "reasonable." Then wait and see if Samsung sees the error of its ways next year for the next Note. Also, a Samsung rep pointed out to me that there's a Mophie case for the S6 that the phone connects to when you put it in. The case has a slot for a microSD card and, from what I understand, an extended battery. They may make one for the Note 5. No telling how big and heavy that would be.
I talked to a tech at the Sprint store, as I was wondering how you get out of a boot loop, should one happen. Apparently for the S6, there's some key combination that's supposed to work like a battery pull. I assume they have something like that for the Note 5.
I think I'll wait to see what people are saying before I decide for sure what to do. Both developers, techs and users. They did tell me at the Sprint store they will have the Note 5 for Samsung's announced date: August 21st. They are already receiving accessories for the phone.

The Note 5 isn't being released in Europe, at any rate.
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
Though frankly, I'm expecting a Note 5+ around March/April. Samsung amended their statement pretty quickly to "Not releasing it in europe this year, will release when individual markets provide a favourable moment".
The EU/International variant of the Note has always been the Snapdragon model, due to its strength and its more powerful GPU. Exynos models have always been lower-market models. The current Snapdragon CPU had too many issues, and the 820 wasn't ready in time for a pre-iPhone release. Given that they released an S6 Edge+ alongside the Note 5 makes me suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7.
Personally I'm sticking with my Note 3. If it dies, Note 4 will be its replacement. But I will A, never buy a device without a MicroSD, B, never buy a device with an Exynos, and C, live in Europe.

ShadowLea said:
The Note 5 isn't being released in Europe, at any rate.
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
Though frankly, I'm expecting a Note 5+ around March/April. Samsung amended their statement pretty quickly to "Not releasing it in europe this year, will release when individual markets provide a favourable moment".
The EU/International variant of the Note has always been the Snapdragon model, due to its strength and its more powerful GPU. Exynos models have always been lower-market models. The current Snapdragon CPU had too many issues, and the 820 wasn't ready in time for a pre-iPhone release. Given that they released an S6 Edge+ alongside the Note 5 makes me suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7.
Personally I'm sticking with my Note 3. If it dies, Note 4 will be its replacement. But I will A, never buy a device without a MicroSD, B, never buy a device with an Exynos, and C, live in Europe.
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Largely i´ll have to agree. On the MSD-slot though: If we get a 128 GB option i´d probably surrender. If i understand the issue correctly, the on-board ram is much faster. The current N5 setup: Not a chance. One thing i don´t completely understand: Every time we get a new phone on the market with sd-slot, the on-board ram is always on the small side. The best i´ve seen so far was 32 Gigs. Is it just to keep retail prices down? It almost feels like a "Holy cow". To me this sounds like a situation where we could actually have our cookie and eat it too (Provided of course we were willing to pay for it
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Largely i´ll have to agree. On the MSD-slot though: If we get a 128 GB option i´d probably surrender. If i understand the issue correctly, the on-board ram is much faster. The current N5 setup: Not a chance. One thing i don´t completely understand: Every time we get a new phone on the market with sd-slot, the on-board ram is always on the small side. The best i´ve seen so far was 32 Gigs. Is it just to keep retail prices down? It almost feels like a "Holy cow". To me this sounds like a situation where we could actually have our cookie and eat it too (Provided of course we were willing to pay for it
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Elo
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You're spot on about keeping the retail prices down. It's mainly because most people aren't paying 100 quid for 32GB extra when you can get a 128GB MicroSD for 66 quid. Consumers aren't that stupid. (Well, most of them aren't.)
I mean, take the Note 4. €599 for the 32GB model, + €66 for a 128GB MicroSD = €665. The 64GB model costs €699. If you buy the first, that leaves you €34 to spend on a really nice case, screenprotector or extra battery. Or two 64GB MicroSD's. (MediaMarkt sold a pack of 2x64GB+adapters for €32 last week.)
You'd have to be pretty bonkers to consider the 64GB edition that way. (I did consider it, and yes, I'm officially mad as a hatter. But unfortunately they never actually produced the 64GB edition of the Note 3.) A 128GB edition would cost over 1000 euros, which would scare people off.
Not to mention, if you keep your apps internal, and your media external (which is safest in the event of a hardware defect, freeze, crash or drop, too), 32GB is more than sufficient. I have 523 apps, of which over 100 games, and still 5GB free internal space.
And then there's MTP. Transferring an average 1080p film of 25GB takes 5 minutes via a MicroSD adapter. It takes 3 hours over MTP, and craps out halfway because the protocol crashes.
The real issue is that a lot of people are idiots. Yes, the onboard storage is faster in its new format. That's entirely true. Aparently, a MicroSD slows things down when apps are put on them.
Which is the problem: people have forgotten that MicroSD's are for MEDIA. It is entirely irrelevant how fast the internal memory is compared to the MicroSD. That film isn't going to play any faster than 25fps. (Rant aimed at the people who use that as an argument. Not at you xD)
And Samsung has forgotten that the average 1080p film is 25GB. How, exactly, do they suggest I put that on a 32GB device that is already housing 8GB worth of bloatware?
I have two 128GB MicroSD's filled to the brim with films, series, comics, magazines and books that I swap around as I need them. Even a 256GB device would not be sufficient for my needs. Overkill? Maybe. I have to travel on public transport for 6 hours a day, 5.5 of which are in a mobile deadzone. (So no cloud, if that was even useful with maximum data subscriptions of 12GB to begin with. That's half a film.)

ShadowLea said:
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
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LOL! An LG compared with any Samsung is nothing but a joke, utter joke. Sorry if some LG fanboy gets butthurt here, but speaking from a purely personal experience with G3, and the Nexus 5 too.
Biggest shame a Note device could have by being compared with some hotchpotch LG!

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LOL! An LG compared with any Samsung is nothing but a joke, utter joke. Sorry if some LG fanboy gets butthurt here, but speaking from a purely personal experience with G3, and the Nexus 5 too.
Biggest shame a Note device could have by being compared with some hotchpotch LG!
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Oh I quite agree. The G4 barely lasts 2 hours with the screen on, 6 with the screen off. Sure, it has a fancy camera, but if I want to take fancy pictures, I'll bring my EOS 70D.
I was just suggesting options. In terms of pure technical specs, the G4 Pro looks to be everything we'd hoped the Note 5 would be. The fact that LG usually screws up their phones (Though nowhere near as bad as HTC seems to be doing these days) has little to do with the core specs.
What's your opinion of Motorola's Nexus 6? Now that Android natively supports MicroSD, and the N6 had an AMOLED screen, the next Nexus may very well be a serious contender.

@ShadowLea
Have you tried the ZE551ML ZenFone 2?
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/
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@ShadowLea
Have you tried the ZE551ML ZenFone 2?
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/
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Haven't had the chance to play with it yet, sadly. They're pretty much impossible to come by in the Netherlands.
Also, I'm a little hesitant when it comes to mobile devices from Asus after the I/O issues that plagued every Transformer(Including my TF700T) for years. (in terms of laptops there's none better, don't get me wrong.)

Note 5 = best screen + best camera in a premium device + spen and good battery life and wireless charging endless list of sensors etc etc
Seriously people still b**ching about it ???
As for the LG G4, its n aweaome phone
the battery is better than my note 3 and it got amazing camera screen and speed. Why trolling ??? 4 hours standby = faulty battery, I can easily get 4 hours screen on with continuous gaming, Web surfing video playback and chatting ..... it's my travelling phone mostly cuz of the battery and camera.

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Oh I quite agree. The G4 barely lasts 2 hours with the screen on, 6 with the screen off. Sure, it has a fancy camera, but if I want to take fancy pictures, I'll bring my EOS 70D.
I was just suggesting options. In terms of pure technical specs, the G4 Pro looks to be everything we'd hoped the Note 5 would be. The fact that LG usually screws up their phones (Though nowhere near as bad as HTC seems to be doing these days) has little to do with the core specs.
What's your opinion of Motorola's Nexus 6? Now that Android natively supports MicroSD, and the N6 had an AMOLED screen, the next Nexus may very well be a serious contender.
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I like Motorola actually, but the Moto X 2013 I used had an awful display, I mean I don't know how poor a display could be! So that gives me some scary thing when its about Motorola, but still Nexus 6 is a good phone.
AMOLED panel doesn't matter really. I need to know which generation AMOLED panel it is, the older AMOLED panels are nowhere near as good as current generations' S-AMOLED panels. Also how is the reception thing going on with Motorola? I remember not getting reception in places with my X 2013 where I receive more than decent reception with other phones, that's very serious for me.
Damn if the Note 5 came out with a display around 5.9" I would be all over it. I don't care about the external SD thing at all, and I hope regardless of its smaller capacity battery it will still be better than Note 3 in endurance.

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As for the LG G4, its n aweaome phone
the battery is better than my note 3 and it got amazing camera screen and speed. Why trolling ??? 4 hours standby = faulty battery, I can easily get 4 hours screen on with continuous gaming, Web surfing video playback and chatting ..... it's my travelling phone mostly cuz of the battery and camera.
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Yeah awesome phone when compared with the likes of OnePlus One or some Xiaomi nonsense, its not even in the same league with any Samsung flagship for God's sake! Brilliant display? Yeah sure, when 8000+ Kelvins is counted as brilliant, it sure the heck is!

The Note 5 was a complete let-down. The three things it removed are the things I used/appreciated most:
- IR blaster
- Removable battery
- Expandable memory
So, after four generations of Note owning (I bought the Note 1 a week after it launched), I will be leaving Sammy.
If you slapped down a Note 4 and a Note 5 on the table right in front of me right now, I'd pay more money for the Note 4.
Here's hoping they revert to their former prestige. Until then, LG Pro 4? I think I have to.

If the Note 5 has OTG support it's oke but clouddrives like Mega can replace SD for most of the time.
The almost no-go to the Note 5 for me is the glass backside. It really anoys me that samsung didn't continue the fake leather backside. I really love it compair to a glass. Now I really need a case.
Unfortunally I have to import the Note 5 because it will not be available in Europe(at least not in the first period).
Please sign the appeal to bring the Note 5 to Europe:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/appeal-to-bring-samsung-galaxy-note-5-to-europe-note5foreurope/

Tombias said:
If the Note 5 has OTG support it's oke but clouddrives like Mega can replace SD for most of the time.
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Oh yes, that works so well...
This is my average Internet speed the 6 hours on public transport when I need the films on my MicroSD the most:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Do please tell me how I am supposed to stream 1080p films from the cloud over that.

Best phones with 7+ inches display

Hi, I am looking for a smartphone with a display that is at least 7 inches and relatively affordable.
I was hoping to get a Honor X30 Max but that is only for Chinese market. I saw that Huawei had a Mate 20X but that is quite old at this point.
Is there any alternative at this point, or any credible rumor about a similar device coming to European/US markets soon? Thanks.

You can still get a new Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Plus SM-N975U 256GB (FACTORY UNLOCKED) for $800. 4G, 12gb ram variant.
Running on Q. Got one about 3 months ago, it's my second one.
Though its AMOLED display is fixed at 60hz, it's color rendering exceeds many of the newer phones. Supports up to a 1tb SD card.
You can buy used ones for less but you need to be careful, lots of scamming going on.

blackhawk said:
You can still get a new Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Plus SM-N975U 256GB (FACTORY UNLOCKED) for $800. 4G, 12gb ram variant.
Running on Q. Got one about 3 months ago, it's my second one.
Though its AMOLED display is fixed at 60hz, it's color rendering exceeds many of the newer phones. Supports up to a 1tb SD card.
You can buy used ones for less but you need to be careful, lots of scamming going on.
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Thank you, not a 7+ inches though. Although not sure how much difference 6.8 vs 7.2 would make in real life.

dieffequ said:
Thank you, not a 7+ inches though. Although not sure how much difference 6.8 vs 7.2 would make in real life.
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An AMOLED vs LCD though make a huge difference. The curved screen takes away some space on the R/L but it has other uses with Samsung's. The spen is also very handy to have mostly for Smart Capture and as a remote shutter release.
It's a 2yo phone but I wasn't pleased with how Samsung or Android 11/12 are evolving so I stuck with what works. It's a fun phone.
Whatever you get, get a good case for it...