So lately I've been looking into gigantic Chinese phones, and I came across this one, a 6.45 inch, 1080p behemoth that goes by a variety of names:
Orientphone Mega 6.5
iNew i6000
Actwell i6000
Firefly T65
Carpad V65
And probably some others. The cheapest I've been able to find was Mode edit: link to commercial site removed[/url].
Anyway, they're all gigantic phones with the Xperia Z U screen (?) but slower internal hardware, specifically an MT6589T quad-core 1.5Ghz processor and either 1 or 2 gigs of ram. They get an Antutu score of 14k-ish (for the 1 gig version), according to an earlier post on Gizchina.
Anyway, I'm thinking of getting one, and I wanted to ask if anyone else has one, or if any devs are thinking of getting one. They strike me as a much better buy than the Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, which has an inferior screen and is close to $300 more expensive. My biggest qualm is the fact that the operating system probably won't ever be upgraded, unless the XDA people get to it.
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I'm waiting to hear actual user feedback on these phones before I order one. Promotional videos from resellers don't really tell me if you need the 1 gig or 2 gig ram version. After hearing about the problems with the 1gig Huawei Ascend mate im a bit hesitant.
I would love to know more about this phone a I am considering it.
It looks lovely anyhow, especially the black one.
Definitely the black looks better.
laggy browsing?
I was ready to buy one until I saw this video. Look at it browsing the National Geographic from 1:17 onwards. I don't know if Adobe Flash has something to do with it but the performance looks poor. Also the screen and app drawer swiping looks to not be as instant as on my Nexus 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDffLX4nzMY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Look at the stuttering from 8:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccf1r5jaOLM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
the black looks better :laugh::fingers-crossed:
cmit37 said:
I was ready to buy one until I saw this video. Look at it browsing the National Geographic from 1:17 onwards. I don't know if Adobe Flash has something to do with it but the performance looks poor. Also the screen and app drawer swiping looks to not be as instant as on my Nexus 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDffLX4nzMY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Look at the stuttering from 8:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccf1r5jaOLM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wouldn't be concerned about that stuttering as it looks like a youtube issue. I have seen plenty of videos of its hd playback which all looked fine. I'm pretty sure that getting the 2gb ram version would help with any slowdowns as well.
Well, I'm pretty sure that it's going to have more lag than the Nexus 4, which is a premium smartphone and also has a much smaller screen to power. Antutu scores I've seen have been in the 13.5k-14k range, whereas Google tells me that the Nexus 4 is 15k-ish, I think? That's actually a smaller gap than I thought it would be, especially given that the Antutu scores I've seen for the iNew have been for the 1Gb version. But anyway, yeah, these phones are not going to compete with the Nexus series for power, but they're also somewhat cheaper and, of course, have much bigger screens.
By the way, there is a new Chinese smartphone in this category: the Goophone S4 Mega. They seem to only come in the 2 gig variant, but can be found for just north of $300. The best price I've seen for the iNew was $265 after shipping, so there's about a $40 price premium for the extra RAM.
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Well, I'm pretty sure that it's going to have more lag than the Nexus 4, which is a premium smartphone and also has a much smaller screen to power. Antutu scores I've seen have been in the 13.5k-14k range, whereas Google tells me that the Nexus 4 is 15k-ish, I think? That's actually a smaller gap than I thought it would be, especially given that the Antutu scores I've seen for the iNew have been for the 1Gb version. But anyway, yeah, these phones are not going to compete with the Nexus series for power, but they're also somewhat cheaper and, of course, have much bigger screens.
By the way, there is a new Chinese smartphone in this category: the Goophone S4 Mega. They seem to only come in the 2 gig variant, but can be found for just north of $300. The best price I've seen for the iNew was $265 after shipping, so there's about a $40 price premium for the extra RAM.
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Good find on that Goophone mega. I'm sure its just another rebranding, but with 2gig ram standard for $309.00 from their webstore its a good deal.
I am not sure if these phablets represent value when you can buy the premium Nexus 4 for $350 from Google Play. The 2GB versions of the 6.5"Chinese phablets including delivery work out to a similar price.
At $250 for the 2GB version I might give them a go but not at the current price.
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cmit37 said:
I am not sure if these phablets represent value when you can buy the premium Nexus 4 for $350 from Google Play. The 2GB versions of the 6.5"Chinese phablets including delivery work out to a similar price.
At $250 for the 2GB version I might give them a go but not at the current price.
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A bit overpriced for china devices. I agree with your Nexus 4 point.
Wow I fan of gaint phones, but look like non of it have LTE or Wimax only 3g
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A bit overpriced for china devices. I agree with your Nexus 4 point.
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I agree, but you can't get a large screen device for a really cheap price. And the nexus 4 is a 4.7 inch screen and simply doesn't compare. If you want a similar chinese phone with a 4.7 inch screen you can get something that costs less than $200, as long as you don't need LTE.
Yeah, these phones are meant to compete with the Galaxy Mega, which is currently $500-ish and has worse specs. The Nexus 4 would definitely have better performance, but costs $100 more than the cheapest price I've seen for the 1GB version ($265 with shipping) and has a much, much smaller screen.
It's basically all about how much you want a giant phone. For me, the closest competitor is the first-gen Galaxy Note, which is about $200 used on Ebay and, of course, has better connectivity in the US (as with most Chinese phones, none of the vendors seem to be certain whether the iNew supports the 1900Mhz baseband) as well as basically guaranteed OS updates via Cyanogenmod.
Nothing else like it
if you're like me and want a real phablet, there's nothing else like this one.
1st - carpad t65 is something else. An older-gen-look (generic-looking) phone. The iNew is much better looking, has stereo speakers (chinese speakers are lousy so the carpad's single should be useless for speakerphone, let alone listening to music).
Goophone is not out yet. The demo pics are fake (you san see the samsung logo photoshopped out) and not too sure about the video. Maybe a Galaxy Mega 6.3 shown next to a 5.7, or maybe it's real - but not on sale yet.
The i6000 has the same screen as Sony's Togari phablet which is yet to be launched. Much better specs than the Galaxy Mega 6.3 or the much smaller Note 2. Also, FHD is a must on a screen this big.
And the Nexus 4 is tiny in comparison.
A good competitor would be the ViVo xplay - only it's "only" 5.7", pricier, and won't connect to the network I'm using.
I really want this phone - only problem is they're sold out on Black phones and 2/32GB phones, and I really don't want a 1/16GB white one. Will wait patiently.
Anyone can confirm what WCDMA band it supports? From the inew website it supports 850 and 2100 only, that means no 3G speed on AT&T and T-Mobile.
The Goophone S4 Mega seems to have a 2400mAh battery and for a 6.4-inch FHD screen that seems a bit on the small side.
I've asked several Chinese retailers when a black iNew i6000 2G/32GB will be available and I am waiting for replies.
Got mine yesterday (inew 1gb version) And I have to say. Quality seems good and performance in chrome beta is very good as well.
Color reproduction seems decent, screen has clear backlight bleeding and readability in the sun is do-able but not good.
No real issue so far.
Also good 3g performance here in Holland with Vodafone
Brilliant - actual user review.
Where did you buy it from? What other phone do you have/are you familiar with and how are you finding the overall performance compared with it?
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Brilliant - actual user review.
Where did you buy it from? What other phone do you have/are you familiar with and how are you finding the overall performance compared with it?
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I bought it via aliExpress
My previous phone was a note II. Compared to that the performance is a bit lower but mostly to aggressive memory management. (apps in the background close quite quickly).
I have not rooted it yet. I first have asked iNew how to factory reset it in case of a error first.
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WTF is this??
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/02/13/this-is-the-galaxy-tab-2/#.Tzk_2VnRwqc
Wow.
quoted from a cnet article..
The Galaxy Tab 2 will also become the first mobile device from Samsung to ship with its AllShare Play service. ????
So this was holding up our 4.0 update == the same hardware! doh!
to hit stores this march. I dont see anyreason why we wouldnt have our "update" by then.
clever marketing strategy Sammy, does this mean the new update will automagically transform our devices to become the new "Galaxy Tab 2"?
probably still no phone function in US.
I saw that too on Engadget, and I do not know if it's a good news or a bad one .
That "thing" seems to be quite the same as out G7+, so I wonder if we'd be able to flash the ICS FW straight from that one, before our device will be officially updated
By the way, I believe it's just the same device , slightly modified due to the recent apple/samsumg legal battle.
P_
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/hands-on-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-review-1062954
hands on..
lets just hope for a leaked FW anyday now..
I think they may have been testing the sale of the 7+ in diff regions, and may release this as a universal release. except for US of course getting a Wifi only most likely.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495134
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nice.
so we do have better hardware.
they probably also trying to cut costs as well as the processor issue.
well good to know we have the better hardware, so any ICS leaks wont work 100% then.
Wonder if its the end of the line for the 7+ ?
another forum on xda hopefully which means good fur us dev wise.. even if their ROMs wont run on our equpment.
Looks like they are going back to the Tegra2. Why break something when it's not fixed.
Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor, e.g. Tegra 2), and the fact that it has no LED flash, lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
This is becoming a bit ridiculous. The Tab Plus is not even properly introduced to market and we already have another version out?
This new one will be less expensive, maybe much less.
I would not be surprised if people start getting confused with
tab 7
tab 7 2
tab 7 plus
tab 7.7
and then all wifi and wifi/3g versions..
Why did they present it at a small show in Prague instead of MWC in few days? Does it make sense to you?
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Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor, e.g. Tegra 2), and the fact that it has no LED flash, lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
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The asus 250$ tablet is a tegra 3.
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The asus 250$ tablet is a tegra 3.
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I stand corrected. I was getting a bit confused. The $250 tablet, (which is still little more than a CES teaser,) is slated to be the ME370T. (I won't comment on build quality yet, since ASUS has serious issues building even their top of the line devices, i.e. Transformer Prime) The tablet I was referring to was the official $250 EeePad MeMo (ME171) which will have a 7-inch WXGA (1,280 x 800) IPS capacitive touchpanel, a 1.2GHz dual-core Qualcomm 8260 processor, a gigabyte of memory, 16GB / 32GB of storage, 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, a 1.2 megapixel front / 5 megapixel rear camera (with 1080p recording), an A-GPS sensor, gyroscope, proximity sensor and a micro-USB port. There's a 4,400mAh Li-polymer battery reportedly good for some 8.5 hours of video playback, and Android 4.0.1. The unit checks in with dimensions of 7.8- x 4.6- x 0.50-inches (and a weight of 14.2 ounces). Seeing as they haven't even announced a release date for the Tegra 3 ME370T, I have a feeling that the Galaxy Tab 2 is going to be competing with the similarly specced ME171. I hope that clears up any confusion I may have caused with my lack of clarity.
Its not quite a teaser. Reps from my company had it in hand at CES. It's pretty much official and will likely be a game changer, if Asus doesn't botch the roll out.
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Its not quite a teaser. Reps from my company had it in hand at CES. It's pretty much official and will likely be a game changer, if Asus doesn't botch the roll out.
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Unfortunately, it was a prototype unit, (and it felt like it,) While I don't doubt that Asus intends to bring it to market, I do doubt that they'll be able to make it very well at that price point with the types of parts they are claiming. Also, it's ASUS, they'll botch the roll out. They always do. Their devices always launch with build quality issues.
I wasn't there personally but a prototype makes sense. Looks like we're going to have to wait and see. I agree that a budget tab makes the most sense. With the 7+ being the big brother.
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I wasn't there personally but a prototype makes sense. Looks like we're going to have to wait and see. I agree that a budget tab makes the most sense. With the 7+ being the big brother.
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Will the average consumer understand the difference between tab plus and tab 2?
Many will think a Tab *2* is newer and better then a Tab *Plus*. like a S 2 is better then a S plus.
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Will the average consumer understand the difference between tab plus and tab 2?
Many will think a Tab *2* is newer and better then a Tab *Plus*. like a S 2 is better then a S plus.
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I don't know. Depends how they market it. The cynic in me says that the 7+ will become an after thought to both consumers and Samsung. It wouldn't be the first time they've done it.
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All I want to know is will the 7+ get ICS?
Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?
This article raised a very good question I've been wondering for a while now too:
http://www.zdnet.com/dear-android-manufacturers-please-sell-me-the-phone-that-i-want-7000006437/
There are plenty of android phones to choose from. But every North American manufacturer's flagship phones are 4.6+ inches and they just seem to be getting bigger! I don't want a bigger phone...but I want flagship hardware. How many >4.5 inch android phones have top tier hardware (quadcore, HD screen, top end GPU). ZERO.:crying:
The one thing I think Apple has right is the size of the iPhone 5. It fits very comfortably in your hand. I can fit the Galaxy Nexus in one hand, but I cannot reach all areas of the screen with my thumb if I have 4 fingers gripping the side of the phone. I can stretch if I put my pinky on the bottom and only 3 on the side, but if I add a case to the mix then it becomes uncomfortable again.
Now I admit I have smaller hands, but I'm sure others have this issue as well. I just was shocked to read through the comments on the story to see how many people avidly almost "attacked" the author for his opinion. Thinking it was ridiculous to expect options like this. And that people with smaller hands should just be content with outdated hardware on smaller phones.
Anyone else who wish the sizes would go back down? Or at least have options of smaller models with the same high end hardware? Was really hoping for a 4-4.3" Nexus 4...but I know that's not going to happen Oh well...here's to hoping it might happen with the Nexus 5...
I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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lowbudge said:
I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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to be honest i am absolutely agree with u.
now adays smartphone is used for browsing and multimedia rather than make a call and sms or email.
u can get samsung galaxy s3 mini at least.
IMHO. nexus series will look like this in the future. i believe google has make some kind of standardization of their phone model.
4.65 with a shape like galnex.
its not the screen size that i really concern. but the battery life...
There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
The new Galaxy S3 Mini just came out! It has the SPECS of a flagship devices, but has a 4" screen!
I prefer big displays mainly because tiny onscreen keyboards are hard to use.
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There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
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Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
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Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
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4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
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I didn't think about the buttons. I guess I couldn't really say unless I held it in my hands, but it seems noticeably smaller on paper:
Xiaomi MI-2 Dimensions:
126 x 62 x 10.2 mm (4.96 x 2.44 x 0.40 in)
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 Dimensions:
135.5 x 67.9 x 8.9 mm (5.33 x 2.67 x 0.35 in)
Not a HUGE difference...again, I'd prefer a 4" phone where the difference would be more noticeable. But if these specs can be squeezed into 4.3" on the cheap from a no name brand, my point is it's definitely possible to do 4" from a big name brand manufacturer.
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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It is a common idea in North America that "bigger is better," as well as "more is better." Just check out the average BMI in the US... kinda high up there.... and it ain't muscle mass.... check out Texas as an example.
I too was very concerned with my future phone before I upgraded to the Gnex. I had a 4.3" Droid Charge. I thought that anything over 4.5" was pushing my limits, but I slowly became very comfortable with the current Gnex size. However, I still do not want anything larger than 4.65"... so I'm hoping the future Nexus phones after the Nexus 4 don't get any bigger.
Side note: w00t SF Giants FTW!!!!!
I think the current nexus screen size is perfect imo
maybe the nexus 3 will grant your wish?
I guess your the odd one out that manufacturers don't care about
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High end Android phone will never be released in 4inch. That's how they make them different from iphone in the first place. There are more ppl want bigger phone. And tbh, ppl use both hand to type even on iphone... 4inch high end flagship phone is... meh... it will never happen..
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colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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Smokeey said:
The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
A 4" top tier device now would probably be way more costly to manufacture than the usual 4.5"+ screen size device. And there will probably be very very few quad cores, if any in a device that small. Battery and all the other top tier accoutrements just won't be feasible. You will have to settle for a sacrifice somewhere. Last years top end specs in 4" form factor is probably best you can expect for a year or two.
Off topic but I wish Samsung took a chance on the galaxy premier and made it just like the nexus instead of Samsung's typical hardware button accompanied by two capacitive buttons. Better GPU and CPU. And add stock android. Samsung is probably too scared to lose any marketshare by alienating a device. What is wrong with taking small chances on a mid end device? All the people skipping the lg nexus 4 would probably take a serious at the i9260 if it had Google's now standard software navigation, with upgraded specs aaaaaaand a SD card slot. Smdh Samsung.
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iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
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My point exactly though. You can't get true 720p in a 4 inch screen and if you did you'd have to use a microscope to read anything.
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From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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it doesnt cost €1000
djbenny1 said:
it doesnt cost €1000
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I think you can purchase the phone separate without the tablet attachment for less
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Crisisx1 said:
From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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Asus' devices are lightly skinned but not "pure Android (AOSP)." There's a ton of proprietary s/w on it to handle being a phone and a tablet when docked.
It's not available in the U.S. and the international versions have incompatible HSPA and LTE bands so you'd only get 2G data speeds if you imported one. You'd probably need to wait and see if a U.S. carrier picked it up if you really wanted one.
Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
If you thought the HTC one has a stunning design, the Infinity takes it to the next level. It's definitely going to be a competitor on the performance front, the whole package with the tablet looks gorgeous. But that price tag is totally crazy.
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Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
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I've always liked this idea of the Padfone, especially when you could also add the keyboard dock (I got the Asus Transformer Prime, and the dock is very useful).
This one looks great also, but there are a few things I don't like, and that show how much Samsung is good with its hardware design.
The S4 has a larger battery (2600 vs 2400), same screen size, more sensors (temperature, humidity), a removable battery, a microSD card slot and still manages to be a lot smaller (143.5 x 72.8 x 8.9 mm (LxWxH) for the PadFone and 136.6 x 69.8 x 7.9 mm for the Galaxy S4) and lighter than the Padfone (145 g vs 130 g).
Also, I love all the software features the S4 has, as well as the much improved camera compared to the S3
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Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
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Not really. "think outside the box" is creativeness, but it lacks true innovation. For the true definition of innovation, you can search on internet (not wikipedia). Simply, innovation is bringing ideas to the reality with a big effect to the company's performance or the society.
Why did I say that? Asus has tried to show many many positive advantages of its products to people. They are true advantages, I agree, but just on the surface.
There first quad-core device (TF201) sounded great. First quadcore, IPS+ super bright display, gorgeous aluminum body with keyboard and quickest ICS update. But the quad-core had IO issue, performance was sooo laggy, bad build quality (cracking even aluminum), loosen screen and light bleeding, no GPS and weak wifi (metal body and very bad cheap wifi radio from Azura), mono sound and super buggy update. Oh one of the biggest Flop.
The first Padfone: it's brilliant idea becoming true after more than a year and many people were bored. When the device came out, it's so heavy and buggy (resolution conflict between phone and tablet pad). Expensive price.
The first Full-HD Android Tablet: long delayed device also. Like TF201, it was PR as a powerful device with a simirlar story: Full HD screen IPS+ super bright display, 1.6Ghz quad-core, changing in design with better GPS and wifi, quickest update. But performance wasstill bad (garbage Tegra 3 IO issue), updates were still buggy, screen was still loosen or light bleed, wifi chipset was still Azura's. Oh luckily this time it's still much better than tf201.
Padfone 2: good device but too expensive. Keyboard dock was no longer available on Padfone series. This phone was "died" after announcing few months because of Padfone Infinity
Padfone Infinity: I had some Asus devices and I don't wanna try anymore, but this one seems to be good. Unfortunately, it's only available in some areas with small number. Price is sooo expensive. I think people will continue considering it is as something inside the art museum, not for use.
Overall, Asus always has great ideas, but it lacks of making comprehensive devices, good marketing with reasonable price, making the "creative ideas" cannot become "innovations"
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Overall, Asus always has great ideas, but it lacks of making comprehensive devices, good marketing with reasonable price, making the "creative ideas" cannot become "innovations"
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And you left out execution which is an area Asus has always struggled. If you look at the PadFone forums, oh wait, you can't because there aren't any. One of the biggest potential downsides of any device anyone buys is it becoming an orphan. Unlike a TV that will function fine for years as-is mobile devices need updates to be able to continue taking advantage of new features and apps. And even if they functioned fine without updates I think, especially at the high-end, we all expect them.
Niche products like PadFone don't get the same attention higher volume products do. Even from Asus who has a pretty good update track record. Last year Panasonic made a huge declaration that they were going to re-enter the EU in a big way in mobile. They changed their mind six months later and are now considering exiting the mobile business completely. And Panasonic is a far larger company then Asus. Samsung and LG are here to stay. Sony seems to be but so did Panasonic and Sony's not doing so hot financially. HTC's hemorrhaging financially too which could affect their future. Motorola’s here to stay but they turned their backs on pre-Google devices once (no JB for 2011 phones even though promised) so their view on past device support will probably get even more sketchy post-Phone X as they turn their attention to the future. All the rest? Who knows? How long will it take someone who bought an Oppo Find online here in the U.S. to get a cracked screen replaced out of warranty? There's more to buying a device than its display and SoC and "cool features."
Actually the S4 vs Padfone is no contest. The thread should be HTC One vs Padfone as they have almost the same specs.
BTW: I have a little love for Asus cause last time I bricked my TF101 they exchanged it no question asked.:good:
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Asus' devices are lightly skinned but not "pure Android (AOSP)." There's a ton of proprietary s/w on it to handle being a phone and a tablet when docked.
It's not available in the U.S. and the international versions have incompatible HSPA and LTE bands so you'd only get 2G data speeds if you imported one. You'd probably need to wait and see if a U.S. carrier picked it up if you really wanted one.
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According to GSMArena, the PadFone Inifinity supports LTE 2100 which is what ATT uses. http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_padfone_infinity-5328.php
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According to GSMArena, the PadFone Inifinity supports LTE 2100 which is what ATT uses. http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_padfone_infinity-5328.php
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Sorry for resurrecting a dead thread, but AT&T doesn't use LTE 2100.
However, ASUS did hint at a US specific version being announced at Computex. Knowing AT&T's openness to new types of devices (OG Galaxy Notes, that Pantech phone that was a square, the Samsung smart PC, etc) I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes an AT&T phone.
I've read a few threads already about how the nexus 7 is the absolute best choice among all tables for the price to performance ratio... I'm sure it is, I will not disagree with you... My problem is I do not want a 7 inch tablet. I want a 10 inch one. Or at least a much larger one than 7 inches. I also do not want to spend 500$ for a good tablet, I'm not rich nor do I have enough money to save for a 400 or 500$ tablet. My max price is about 250, somewhere in that range... Thusbisbwhy I've referred to Chinese non brand tablets... I've read through many boards and have pretty much came across the 3 tablets to be the best. Please let me know if they are good decisions or if I should be looking up another tablet.
The ones I've found are: pipo max m9, cube g30gt2, and the primal p9x.
Is there anything I should know before thinking of these tablets as my choice? Or should I be looking at a different one. They all seem to have decent quad cores with 2gb of ram, but the primal has a better quad core, the cube has a really high res screen, and the pipo seems to be a decent one for the price with the same specs as the cube but with a lower screen res.
Please help me out!
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I've read a few threads already about how the nexus 7 is the absolute best choice among all tables for the price to performance ratio... I'm sure it is, I will not disagree with you... My problem is I do not want a 7 inch tablet. I want a 10 inch one. Or at least a much larger one than 7 inches. I also do not want to spend 500$ for a good tablet, I'm not rich nor do I have enough money to save for a 400 or 500$ tablet. My max price is about 250, somewhere in that range... Thusbisbwhy I've referred to Chinese non brand tablets... I've read through many boards and have pretty much came across the 3 tablets to be the best. Please let me know if they are good decisions or if I should be looking up another tablet.
The ones I've found are: pipo max m9, cube g30gt2, and the primal p9x.
Is there anything I should know before thinking of these tablets as my choice? Or should I be looking at a different one. They all seem to have decent quad cores with 2gb of ram, but the primal has a better quad core, the cube has a really high res screen, and the pipo seems to be a decent one for the price with the same specs as the cube but with a lower screen res.
Please help me out!
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Might also be of interest for you: a russian tablet
http://www.iconbit.com/catalog/tablets/iconbit_nettab_space_iii/
Affordable price.
Looking at that, it is nice, but I don't see a price anywhere. I even googled it and couldn't find it. Nor could I find any reviews on youtube about it. Thanks for the suggestion, I just need to be able to look further into it before I heavily consider it.
Anyone else?
The Nettab Space III costs ~ € 300. The accurately identically constructed Xoro PAD 9718 DR costs € 200.
Yeah, 300 euro is much more than I intend to spend...
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Yeah, 300 euro is much more than I intend to spend...
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In case you are still reading this thread, I just received a Primal P9x and am very satisfied with it. In fact I am typing this very post on it
I am hoping someone here at xda may begin developing for it, its a very worthwhile device. I am tempted to see if other exynos 4412 based roms might work on it. The apk a member here made for rooting exynos 4412 devices worked on this too.
I recommend it highly.
I got my primal p9x the other day and am very happy with it. It took almost a month to ship it from china to the us. It looks like there is only one supplier selling it. So if you want a good cheap tablet and are patient, I would say go ahead and order one.
I have seen very little information on this table on the next and its quad core Samsung Exynos processor in this tablet.
I was able to successfully root it using the Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v15.zip
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I got my primal p9x the other day and am very happy with it. It took almost a month to ship it from china to the us. It looks like there is only one supplier selling it. So if you want a good cheap tablet and are patient, I would say go ahead and order one.
I have seen very little information on this table on the next and its quad core Samsung Exynos processor in this tablet.
I was able to successfully root it using the Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v15.zip
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In case you are still reading this thread, I just received a Primal P9x and am very satisfied with it. In fact I am typing this very post on it
I am hoping someone here at xda may begin developing for it, its a very worthwhile device. I am tempted to see if other exynos 4412 based roms might work on it. The apk a member here made for rooting exynos 4412 devices worked on this too.
I recommend it highly.
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I got my P9x today as well and was quite pleased with it to start with (cf Cube U30GT-H it was replacing). Mine only has 1GB of Internal Storage when the specs say it should have 2GB. Towards the end of the day I noticed some issues with screen resolution (battery was low so I wonder???). It is cheap but is it too cheap?
Update - I used Chainfire's Exynos Abuse to root and patch the tablet and played around with the DPI settings 120, 160, 240... I am now using DPI 160 and the screen issues I had seem to be gone. It looks better with DPI 120 but I can't open settings in this mode.
"Major" reviews appearing now that the Oct 1 embargo is being lifted:
Android Central: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 review (European version) | Android Central
Droid-Life: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
The Verge: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 review | The Verge
Engadget: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 review (global edition)
Ars: Review: The Galaxy Note 3 is big
BGR: http://bgr.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review-biggerer-and-betterer-1432786715
CNET: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Review - Watch CNET's Video Review
Phandroid: http://phandroid.com/2013/10/01/galaxy-note-3-review/
Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...f8f3f2-2a91-11e3-97a3-ff2758228523_story.html
TechnoBuffalo (FI): http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/samsung-galaxy-note-3-first-impressions/
ZDNet: http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-galaxy...droid-smartphone-gets-even-better-7000021366/
GigOm: http://gigaom.com/2013/10/01/galaxy-note-3-review-to-ink-or-not-to-ink-that-is-the-question/
Phandroid: http://phandroid.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
Anandtech - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review
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Anandtech - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review
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As always, great job from Anand. Also it was great to see that he had the Tmous edition.
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As always, great job from Anand. Also it was great to see that he had the Tmous edition.
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I agree. I'm eagerly awaiting picking up my Note 3 from the T-mobile store tomorrow morning.
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I agree. I'm eagerly awaiting picking up my Note 3 from the T-mobile store tomorrow morning.
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I already pre-ordered, but lools like you will get your hands on it before the people who pre-ordered. I don't even know why it is called pre-order if there is no benefits to it!
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I already pre-ordered, but lools like you will get your hands on it before the people who pre-ordered. I don't even know why it is called pre-order if there is no benefits to it!
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Yeah. I learned my lesson from previous devices with T-mobile. It's pretty much always better to just wait at the store. Unless you're getting an iPhone. The wait at the store is not really that bad considering how many locations there are. Also because there are so many android devices to choose from, the demand for any particular launch is not nearly as crazy as an iPhone release.
Only anandtech have 1 line and dare to say in them review that this phone is Region lock. It is not the sim lock. it is region lock.
the other website is not mention it at all.
I do not know that they not aware of this problem(Maybe they get the box without the sticker.) or they just avoid to mention it.
iPhonearena has given a strange review once again.
Thank god for Engadget's review of this device
Per Engadget:
The benefit of the newer connector is that it improves the effective / usable data rate from around 280 Mbps to 4 Gbps.
Good news if you like to move big chunks of data around this way, but we're not sure if the benefit offsets the somewhat uglier connection
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/30/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
Who in their right mind judges the functionality of something this significant based on looks?
How is this person still employed as a reviewer...
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Per Engadget:
The benefit of the newer connector is that it improves the effective / usable data rate from around 280 Mbps to 4 Gbps.
Good news if you like to move big chunks of data around this way, but we're not sure if the benefit offsets the somewhat uglier connection
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/30/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
Who in their right mind judges the functionality of something this significant based on looks?
How is this person still employed as a reviewer...
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Good catch. That's moronic. A lot of the reviewers on the major sites shouldn't be employed, unfortunately.
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You don't need any of these it's just brilliant
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Yeah. I learned my lesson from previous devices with T-mobile. It's pretty much always better to just wait at the store. Unless you're getting an iPhone. The wait at the store is not really that bad considering how many locations there are. Also because there are so many android devices to choose from, the demand for any particular launch is not nearly as crazy as an iPhone release.
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From all I've seen the pre-order is good for only 1 circumstance. If there are a limited number of shops expecting the phone in your area, with a very small number of phones coming to each, and a very high demand expected, then a preorder would get you a phone shipped for a slower but more certain delivery.
They never said the preorder was for early release, that was an assumption/wish on the part of impatient buyers.
I called 2 t-mobile stores last night to verify stocks. They wouldn't say how many phones they have on hand, but one clerk said "Plenty, you don't need to hurry in". At the other store the clerk said I should be there when they open. That store is known to get fewer handsets in stock, but some have suggested they just want credit for the sale on their early shift.
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Too bad some of the American tech review sites are heavily biased toward Apple products against other non-American companies. See The Verge reviews for Note 3, Xperia Z1 and LG G2 and compare them to their reviews for IPhone 5S/5C for example. They are so biased it's not even funny.
It is urgently needed a scientific degree for some of the reviewers. There are too many stupid arguments and contradictions in their reviews.
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Per Engadget:
The benefit of the newer connector is that it improves the effective / usable data rate from around 280 Mbps to 4 Gbps.
Good news if you like to move big chunks of data around this way, but we're not sure if the benefit offsets the somewhat uglier connection
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/30/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
Who in their right mind judges the functionality of something this significant based on looks?
How is this person still employed as a reviewer...
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LOL agreed!
finally a site that acknowledges just how much you get more value for your money when compared to a phone like the 5s (well most of that knew that already i guess)
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/01/5784310/techinsights-stacks-apple-iphone.html
Both devices are LTE based smartphones and both are available on a two year contract for $299.991 or without contract for $799.992, but that is where the similarities end.
TechInsights' cost estimates place the 32 GB version of the iPhone 5s at $200 to make vs. the 32 GB Samsung Galaxy Note 3 at $237.50. So, which device would be the better buy for the customer? Clearly Samsung is placing more money into the Galaxy Note 3, but what does the customer get for that money?
Let's compare costs by function:
Display: The iPhone 5s is an evolution of the iPhone 5 and sports a 4 inch IPS TFT display with 1136 x 640 pixels. In contrast the Galaxy Note 3 contains a 5.7 inch Super AMOLED display with 1920 x 1080 full HD display. The Galaxy Note 3 display is bigger, sports a brighter display based on AMOLED technology and is full HD. Likewise, the cost of the Galaxy Note 3 display/touch system is approximately $32 more than that of the iPhone 5s.
Battery: The battery pack in the Note 3 is over twice the capacity of the iPhone 5s. One would expect the Galaxy Note 3 would handily outperform the iPhone 5s with battery life, but based on power consumption, that may not be the case. At any rate, the cost of the battery pack is about double that of the iPhone 5s.
Camera: The Galaxy Note 3 packs more megapixels in their cameras, but the iPhone 5s has focused their attention on things like low light conditions and increasing software augmented camera features, such as slow motion. Given the different focuses, we believe the camera costs are a wash.
Processor The Galaxy Note 3 uses a 2.3 GHz quad-core, 32 bit ARMv7 processor compared to a 1.3 GHz dual-core, 64 bit ARMv8 processor in the iPhone 5s. The Galaxy Note 3 wins the race for pure horsepower and it does so while saving about $12.50 compared to the iPhone 5s.
Overall, Samsung has delivered superior value with the features that are most important to the customer – better display and a faster processor.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/01/5784310/techinsights-stacks-apple-iphone.html#storylink=cpy
Absolutely, some of the sites are sponsored by Apple to give a less than favorable review like The Verge. Furthermore, it's reviewed by an iPhone owning d-bag and one of the cons he listed is the device is too big. Reality is about 80% of the world think the iPhone is too small.
camera shootout .. I haven't seen this one posted here yet
http://asia.cnet.com/smartphone-cam...-galaxy-note-3-vs-sony-xperia-z1-62222509.htm