[I9505G] Guinea Pig Needed - Galaxy S 4 General

Hey everyone,
I need a fellow Google Play Edition owner to be a guinea pig for us. I am attempting to get a CWM-flashable ZIP file out for those wishing to return their phone to a 100% stock, out-of-the-box state. Nobody seems to have done this yet, and since Google doesn't make factory images available and there is no Odin firmware on SamMobile, there is a legitimate need for this.
I have done a nandroid backup and have dumped the radio and bootloader. @TheManii is in the process of turning it into a flashable ZIP. This ZIP will include the stock JWR66Y/I9505GUEUBMH5 ROM and kernel, plus the stock recovery, radio and bootloader. If someone is willing to be the guinea pig for testing this ZIP, I'd be totally grateful. I'd test it myself but I use my phone for business and can't take the risk.
Any volunteers?
Thanks!

Have you seen this section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2448
There is full odin flashable firmware for the i9505G already there.

xyzulu said:
Have you seen this section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2448
There is full odin flashable firmware for the i9505G already there.
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Those are rooted. What I'm going for is 100% stock and unrooted, just as it was out of the box. I also saw the stock Heimdal images, but let's be honest, nobody uses Heimdal. Odin and custom recoveries are basically the de facto methods for flashing around here.
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At the least, shouldn't this discussion about the i9505G be in the i9505G subforum?

xyzulu said:
At the least, shouldn't this discussion about the i9505G be in the i9505G subforum?
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No because the I9505G subforum is purely for development. Once we have a working ZIP file, I will create a thread for it in the development area. For soliciting a tester, though, this is a more appropriate place I think. You aren't supposed to post anything in the development threads that isn't directly reheated to development.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343709

oldblue910 said:
Hey everyone,
I need a fellow Google Play Edition owner to be a guinea pig for us. I am attempting to get a CWM-flashable ZIP file out for those wishing to return their phone to a 100% stock, out-of-the-box state. Nobody seems to have done this yet, and since Google doesn't make factory images available and there is no Odin firmware on SamMobile, there is a legitimate need for this.
I have done a nandroid backup and have dumped the radio and bootloader. @TheManii is in the process of turning it into a flashable ZIP. This ZIP will include the stock JWR66Y/I9505GUEUBMH5 ROM and kernel, plus the stock recovery, radio and bootloader. If someone is willing to be the guinea pig for testing this ZIP, I'd be totally grateful. I'd test it myself but I use my phone for business and can't take the risk.
Any volunteers?
Thanks!
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take the risk i think .your not willing to risk your device lol

boterkaaseneieren said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343709
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That's the JWR66V leak. That's not official firmware and you won't be able to receive OTAs if you flash that. Thanks, though.
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joecool666 said:
take the risk i think .your not willing to risk your device lol
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I probably will if nobody else volunteers. haha
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oldblue910 said:
I probably will if nobody else volunteers. haha
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there is a lot of issues with flashing firmwares at the moment peeps are mostly worried about there warranty's.

joecool666 said:
there is a lot of issues with flashing firmwares at the moment peeps are mostly worried about there warranty's.
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I'd wager that most I9505G owners who frequent XDA have an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery installed. This would mean their warranties are already void.
Basically, I just need someone to make a nandroid backup of their current ROM, flash this, verify that it boots, then they can go back to whatever they had before.

oldblue910 said:
Basically, I just need someone to make a nandroid backup of their current ROM, flash this, verify that it boots, then they can go back to whatever they had before.
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Seems simple enough for you to do actually...
I never understood all those people posting here asking for other users to try things on their phones, claiming "they would do it themselves, but they use the phone for work/business/etc". Most of us value our phones no matter what we use them for.
Just do it yourself outwith business hours.

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[Q] What is "ODIN"

What exactly is the ODIN rom? I understand what a rom is, and i've read some of the thread about "[ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2" (not all of it, its 50 pages) but i'm still not sure exactly what it is. I've been looking through the forums and google, but i'm still not exactly sure what its purpose is.
looking back on what I wrote, I realize this is not clear at all.
How does ODIN differ from the firmware that came with my Galaxy S 4G? Is it just without the bloatware, or has it been built from a stock 2.2 rom
Sorry if this is confusing, but I am quite the noob.
Thank you!
joebanjo said:
What exactly is the ODIN rom? I understand what a rom is, and i've read some of the thread about "[ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2" (not all of it, its 50 pages) but i'm still not sure exactly what it is. I've been looking through the forums and google, but i'm still not exactly sure what its purpose is.
looking back on what I wrote, I realize this is not clear at all.
How does ODIN differ from the firmware that came with my Galaxy S 4G? Is it just without the bloatware, or has it been built from a stock 2.2 rom
Sorry if this is confusing, but I am quite the noob.
Thank you!
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If you can't figure out what ODIN is, then I would recommend you not even try messing with your phone.
But to answer your question ODIN is a program used to flash the phone. You can use it to flash back to stock or to newer firmware or to custom firmware such as the Custom DEODEXED KB5 you found. This is the only way to flash for our phones currently until Krylon gets ROM Manager's ClockworkMod working for our phones to flash custom firmware/ROM's.
Ah thank you very much that answered my question completely! And thank you for your advice, although I haven't made up my mind yet...
On this subject, where is the stock ODIN? I've been looking through the forum but all I see is the rooted version.
Where is the version to return to "out of the box" state?
As a matter of course I always make sure I understand UNROOTING before I root the device.
Phateless said:
On this subject, where is the stock ODIN? I've been looking through the forum but all I see is the rooted version.
Where is the version to return to "out of the box" state?
As a matter of course I always make sure I understand UNROOTING before I root the device.
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Not sure what you mean by "STOCK" Odin. But if your looking for a stock ROM then you can find 2 of them in the dev section. They all come with bloat but they might come rooted already. Just use the same method you used to root your phone to unroot it.
Beefvvl said:
Not sure what you mean by "STOCK" Odin. But if your looking for a stock ROM then you can find 2 of them in the dev section. They all come with bloat but they might come rooted already. Just use the same method you used to root your phone to unroot it.
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Thanks, I saw those. I'm more concerned with returning to out of the box state for warranty or resale applications.
In the Captivate forum it's easy to find but maybe I'm missing something?
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Phateless said:
Thanks, I saw those. I'm more concerned with returning to out of the box state for warranty or resale applications.
In the Captivate forum it's easy to find but maybe I'm missing something?
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You can use superoneclick to take it out of root after you flash the stock ROM. Then it will be out of box state. Is that easy enough for you?
Beefvvl said:
You can use superoneclick to take it out of root after you flash the stock ROM. Then it will be out of box state. Is that easy enough for you?
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Easy isn't the issue. I'm concerned about a true restore with no evidence.
But yeah I thought about stock rom and SOC to unroot. Won't there be traces though?
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A return to true stock is a concern of mine a well. There is a post in the developers section for a stock kb5 restore that is posted as final; however, there seem to be issues with restoring think free office (i use this often, it is a paid app on the market) and drive smart. What can noobs do to help resolve these issues?
Bassmanjames said:
A return to true stock is a concern of mine a well. There is a post in the developers section for a stock kb5 restore that is posted as final; however, there seem to be issues with restoring think free office (i use this often, it is a paid app on the market) and drive smart. What can noobs do to help resolve these issues?
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Pulling the original apks and associated odex or lib files via root explorer might do it, similar to the procedure for keeping stock swype when updating to cm7.
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[Q] Rogers Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE I727R

I have now rooted my rogers SG S2 LTE with super one click 2.2, now what? where can get some roms.....?
Gingerbread 2.3.5
Baseband: I727RUXKJ7
Kernel: 2.6.35.11
This is my first android phone, so, please point me to right direction. Thanks in advance.
ROMs can be found in the Development section...
You can use this guide to start off... also found in the Development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
jugajatt said:
I have now rooted my rogers SG S2 LTE with super one click 2.2, now what? where can get some roms.....?
Gingerbread 2.3.5
Baseband: I727RUXKJ7
Kernel: 2.6.35.11
This is my first android phone, so, please point me to right direction. Thanks in advance.
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After rooting... you can change pretty much the whole OS by flashing custom ROMs found in the thread mentioned above, or you can just make small changes by installing MODs that changes certain things like battery, etc. To install some MODs you will need to flash the respective Kernels as well. However as a beginner I would recommend just flashing custom ROMs.
As of now, I've tried Skyrocketeer, QuickWiz, and Sky Ice Cream Sandwich and they all are usable with minor bugs here and there that may or may not affect you.
Good luck!
Thank you so much cue_32 and pativets. Now time to play around with some roms...
when flashing, can i do it without microsd? I know if i have .tar file i can odin, how the heck do i zip files?
jugajatt said:
Thank you so much cue_32 and pativets. Now time to play around with some roms...
when flashing, can i do it without microsd? I know if i have .tar file i can odin, how the heck do i zip files?
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First you need to flash Clockworkmod Recovery. Then you place the zip on your SDcard, do a Nandroid backup through clockworkmod Recovery (not necessary but highly, highly recommended... especially if you have never done this before.) Then select install zip from SD card, find the .Zip file and run it and you should be golden.
reubendevries said:
First you need to flash Clockworkmod Recovery. Then you place the zip on your SDcard, do a Nandroid backup through clockworkmod Recovery (not necessary but highly, highly recommended... especially if you have never done this before.) Then select install zip from SD card, find the .Zip file and run it and you should be golden.
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Thanks reubendevries, makes sense now. Again thanks all for your great helpful tips.
Hey one other thing, try not to flash through Odin. Samsung has a counter for custom rom flashing and they will void your warranty. The best way to get clockworkmod recovery is buy paying through Rom Manager Premium. Sure it 5.00 bux but thats a worth it compared to voiding your warranty. It also will make sure you install the correct clockworkmod recovery.
reubendevries said:
Hey one other thing, try not to flash through Odin. Samsung has a counter for custom rom flashing and they will void your warranty. The best way to get clockworkmod recovery is buy paying through Rom Manager Premium. Sure it 5.00 bux but thats a worth it compared to voiding your warranty. It also will make sure you install the correct clockworkmod recovery.
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thanks, when installing clockworkmod what do i choose? tmobile SG S2?
That is exactly what you want to do.
When i try to flash CWM from Rom Manager, i727r is not listed...the closest thing is Samsung Galaxy S2 GT-i9000...can I install that version of CWM on my i727r?
Thank you in advanced!!!
Use the link below to setup recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566613
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cc101 said:
When i try to flash CWM from Rom Manager, i727r is not listed...the closest thing is Samsung Galaxy S2 GT-i9000...can I install that version of CWM on my i727r?
Thank you in advanced!!!
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NEVER INSTAL ANYTHING FROM I9100...just flash cwm through Odin look for tutorial on YouTube
Also look up darkside super wipe
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Thanks you guys, always so helpful.
marclabrosse said:
Use the link below to setup recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566613
but yes I believe you pick the S2 from the list in ROM manager, but the link above is best.
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You no talkie no Moe you gonna brick noobs phones
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marclabrosse said:
Use the link below to setup recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566613
but yes I believe you pick the S2 from the list in ROM manager, but the link above is best.
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Please don't give out info like this, it's totally wrong and will brick someone
He's a sys admin, but his avatar is sticking out a tongue, my judgement could go either way, helping? Or purposely hurting...
icenight89 said:
He's a sys admin, but his avatar is sticking out a tongue, my judgement could go either way, helping? Or purposely hurting...
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Please god I want him nowhere near my equipment
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I was trying to teach him that the best way to learn is through first failling, no? Nono just kidding and sorry for posting nonsense I edited the post, but I can't promise it wont happen again
I used Odin with the instructions and TAR file provided in the link I posted above before going to ICS.
When I was on GB and flashed recovery via ROM Manager I guess I picked the TMobile version, its been a while... I'll keep my "guess's" to myself, OK?
icenight89 said:
He's a sys admin, but his avatar is sticking out a tongue, my judgement could go either way, helping? Or purposely hurting...
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Yeah, maybe he's a "system administrator".... administrating a business that refurbishes Bricked Phones.
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shaggyskunk said:
Yeah, maybe he's a "system administrator".... administrating a business that refurbishes Bricked Phones.
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Nailed it!
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What is VRALI5.rpm.zip?

Is this the JB modem or something else? I'm not sure if should i install it with the jelly bean leak.
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Seems like it. I flashed the one from invisiblek's modem thread with the filename VRLI5.modem.zip and it's working fine for me.
EDIT: Never mind, that's not the modem. According to this post it seems to be related to power management. I never flashed it, unless it was included with the modem zip.
SilentDude56k said:
Seems like it. I flashed the one from invisiblek's modem thread with the filename VRLI5.modem.zip and it's working fine for me.
EDIT: Never mind, that's not the modem. According to this post it seems to be related to power management. I never flashed it, unless it was included with the modem zip.
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Here is the flashable VRL15 modem... Now can someone make this Odin flashable??
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-of...zon-sgs3-sch-i535-odin-or-recovery-flashable/
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Is this the JB modem or something else? I'm not sure if should i install it with the jelly bean leak.
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YEs it is . use the link that i posted to take you to rootzwiki and download it there.
what is this talk of .RPM on touchwiz jellybean? i have searched and found little info... sorry op not trying to hijack your thread!
Here's a couple posts I found earlier today about rpm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33187381&postcount=4155
and this latter one is more descriptive about what changes with OTA's and apparently only the rpm is of consequence...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32538851&postcount=3532
and finalement, here's a post with the JB leak's rpm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33557322&postcount=260
Now I still don't know what this does other than exist.
yea im trying to figure out its purpose and if i need to add it too my guide. thx for those links!
droidstyle said:
yea im trying to figure out its purpose and if i need to add it too my guide. thx for those links!
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I'm still new to Samsung, so someone correct me if I'm way off-base, but the gist I got was that when a new rom (or leak) comes from verizon, it includes rom+kernel+rpm+modem... which on an HTC device we called rom+kernel+firmware+radio. So my understanding is that if you just flash the new radios without the new firmware that matches up with what your dev used as a base, there could be compatibility issues.
(Much more knowledgeable people discussed this in the Cleanrom thread as in those links above).
i understand all of that...just trying to figure out what exactly is rpm. thx !
droidstyle said:
i understand all of that...just trying to figure out what exactly is rpm. thx !
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+1 I don't like to blindly flash...
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In simple terms if I understand correctly it installs files that you don't get in flashing a ROM. Gives you an option if you don't want to go back to stock via Odin and OTA back up to current version.
sfobrien said:
In simple terms if I understand correctly it installs files that you don't get in flashing a ROM. Gives you an option if you don't want to go back to stock via Odin and OTA back up to current version.
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i understand that...lol
whats its purpose in android is my question?
droidstyle said:
i understand that...lol
whats its purpose in android is my question?
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RIL files and Power Managment files to coincide with ROM and Modem version to avoid possible conflicts and issues?
sfobrien said:
RIL files and Power Managment files to coincide with ROM and Modem version to avoid possible conflicts and issues?
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ahh ok now were getting somewhere! thx!!
So does an odin back to stock undo whatever this file does or does another rpm file need to be flashed to undo it?
edthesped said:
So does an odin back to stock undo whatever this file does or does another rpm file need to be flashed to undo it?
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If you Odin to a prior version of stock, it should be included in the zip which simultaneously changes the modem. The reason an rpm is being discussed is because when flashing custom roms and modems, this isn't updated. Think of an Odin flash of older images as "reversing an update," all those same files are added when you accept an OTA, so they'll be changed if you Odin an older stock image.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly redact my comment but that's what I understand from this discussion.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
If you Odin to a prior version of stock, it should be included in the zip which simultaneously changes the modem. The reason an rpm is being discussed is because when flashing custom roms and modems, this isn't updated. Think of an Odin flash of older images as "reversing an update," all those same files are added when you accept an OTA, so they'll be changed if you Odin an older stock image.
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly redact my comment but that's what I understand from this discussion.
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Thanks, it's starting to make more sense to me. I'm not unfamiliar with root but typically only do so to eliminate bloat, otherwise I'm happy with stock builds. The JB leak changed things a little so I want to get a better handle on what I'm installing and why.
stable
Why can't this just be simple.....I just want a good stable everything and then leave it alone.....Will that ever happen?
masonjb said:
Why can't this just be simple.....I just want a good stable everything and then leave it alone.....Will that ever happen?
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flash back to stock and leave your device alone...pretty simple.
So if we revert to a ROM backup, do we need to manually turn back the rpm as well, like we do with the modem? Sounds like we need vrali5 for jb leak. I will play around with jb for awhile though go back to ICS for everyday stability use, until I find a jb I like. Do I need to revert the rpm when I restore ICS? Where do I find older rpms. Thanks.
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JB on Samsung s3

Hi.
I'm a new membr to XDA, not ANdroid, I've had my Samsung s3 since it came out. I want to upgrade to Jellybean. I Have Odin, and I have the JB file to Flash. I'm blind, so I'm not sure what the best way of doing this is. Odin is accessible, but entering download mode might be a problem because there would be no speach unless there was vibration feedback. Also, how do I unlock the bootloader? I'm using a PC. Can I just use Odin to unlock it? Thanks for the help in advance.:fingers-crossed:
I would read up on it. But if you want easy just wait (sources say maybe Friday) for the ota. It will be coming soon.
droidx2.3.3 said:
I would read up on it. But if you want easy just wait (sources say maybe Friday) for the ota. It will be coming soon.
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Well, I could, But I don't mind hard. I like challenges. LOL.
Read section 2 of Droidstyle's guide in the development section. In section two of that guide, you will find everything you need to root, unlock, and install a custom recovery in order to flash a JB rom.
Wait and I do apologize. I'm not sure how best to help you if you do in fact have a visual handicap. I'm honestly not aware of a way to go forward and not cause any issues.
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[TOOL] loki tool to loki recovery images on-device

Since a lot of new custom recoveries are being built without loki due to the unified builds, I made this tool to loki recoveries.
Procedure:
1) flash your favorite recovery
2) flash the attached loki_recovery.zip
Thanks @Phil3759 for loki updater scripts and @djrbliss for finding the exploit and attn1 for loki-doki.zip
This will only loki the recovery in your recovery partition. This will NOT loki ROMs or kernels.
DOWNLOAD
what does this mean/tool do exactly?
I know it allows to flash custom roms, but will this work for mk2?
No!
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RK said:
Since a lot of new custom recoveries are being built without loki due to the unified builds, I made this tool to loki recoveries.
Procedure:
1) flash your favorite recovery
2) flash the attached loki_recovery.zip
Thanks @Phil3759 for loki updater scripts and @djrbliss for finding the exploit.
DOWNLOAD
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I'm not sure what is going on here. Loki-Doki was introduced by attn1 sometime around May of 2013. It is the flashable script that Loki's recoveries, Kernels, and Roms that are not already LOKI'd. It only works for MDB and MDL firmwares on AT&T because that is all that LOKI works for with AT&T..
So what is this all about?
scott14719 said:
I'm not sure what is going on here. Loki-Doki was introduced by attn1 sometime around May of 2013. It is the flashable script that Loki's recoveries, Kernels, and Roms that are not already LOKI'd. It only works for MDB and MDL firmwares on AT&T because that is all that LOKI works for with AT&T..
So what is this all about?
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The loki-doki zip I could find does not Loki recoveries. It only Loki's ROMs and kernels. This zip loki's recoveries. That's all..
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trillog said:
what does this mean/tool do exactly?
I know it allows to flash custom roms, but will this work for mk2?
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Nope. This will Loki your recovery if you are on MDB or MDL.
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RK said:
The loki-doki zip I could find does not Loki recoveries. It only Loki's ROMs and kernels. This zip loki's recoveries. That's all..
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OK, thanks for clarifying. The name in the title threw me off a bit.
But there is also this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497335
For anyone interested in how the process works.
From the moderator
To the OP Make sure If you are not part of the Loki team that you have permission to use and make sure you provide credit.
Thanks ~~~ oka1
scott14719 said:
OK, thanks for clarifying. The name in the title threw me off a bit.
But there is also this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497335
For anyone interested in how the process works.
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Ah OK.. I didn't know that existed.. This way is easier tho.. You just flash Loki_recovery.zip after a recovery flash..
I'll change the title too..
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oka1 said:
To the OP Make sure If you are not part of the Loki team that you have permission to use and make sure you provide credit.
Thanks ~~~ oka1
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Not to sound rude but I really did not know (and still don't) that there was a Loki team. I used stuff from @Phil3759's recovery zips and the original loki-doki.zip from attn1 as a guideline. If there is such a team, please do tell me who the members are in a pm and I will take the OP down till I get permission from them.
RK said:
Not to sound rude but I really did not know (and still don't) that there was a Loki team. I used stuff from @Phil3759's recovery zips and the original loki-doki.zip from attn1 as a guideline. If there is such a team, please do tell me who the members are in a pm and I will take the OP down till I get permission from them.
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attn1 said that people can freely use his work for further development. However, generally, it's usually good form to recognize those that your work is based on. I agree with you that this could be very useful as long as people understand what it is for and the it will only work with MDB and MDL builds. My concern was that people will confuse this with LOKI-DOKI and that would cause a lot of issues. Unfortunately, you can explain 100 times in a thread what it is or isn't and it is always the responsibility of individuals to do their own research and reading, but the truth is, the name alone would throw people off. So changing the title is probably a good thing for their sakes.
scott14719 said:
attn1 said that people can freely use his work for further development. However, generally, it's usually good form to recognize those that your work is based on. I agree with you that this could be very useful as long as people understand what it is for and the it will only work with MDB and MDL builds. My concern was that people will confuse this with LOKI-DOKI and that would cause a lot of issues. Unfortunately, you can explain 100 times in a thread what it is or isn't and it is always the responsibility of individuals to do their own research and reading, but the truth is, the name alone would throw people off. So changing the title is probably a good thing for their sakes.
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Thank you sir! How do you like the OP now
RK said:
Thank you sir! How do you like the OP now
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Looks good. Hopefully your work will help some people out. Thanks.

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