Back story:
There was some water damage to begin with. Went wading when I was fishing and forgot the [phone was in my pouch by my chest. Buddie's lure gets stuck and since I'm tallest I help him retrieve it forgetting the phone is there. I turn it off and throw it in rice for a day, come back and turn it on and it works fine.
Fast forward 2 months, I'm camping and the phone is working fine. I shut it off to charge it and later I come to I see the battery percentage at 45% so I unplug it and try to turn it on, no go. Get into the car, plug it into the car charger and I get the battery charging screen but that's it. Phone vibrates when I plug it in and doesn't turn on. I eventually get it to boot back into android os but as soon as I pulled the charging cable out it shut off. At this point I figure it's the stuck power button so I bang the **** out of the phone and still the same. Then I'm like, possibly sudden death? Nope, I'm still able to get the phone to boot into download mode no problem.
Now I decide to clean the logic board. I take the phone apart, soak the logic board in 99% iso alcohol and clean it with a tooth brush. Remove all the gunk and stuff the water left behind, let it dry and put it back together I even mess with the power button to get it unstuck with the tweezer method. The phone still doesn't boot up so I try the GFs battery from her S3 and the same thing. So I decide to put it into download mode and Odin back to stock firmware, previously I was running stock firmware but rooted thought I could have updated with OTA and messed something up. At this point I can get it to boot into android os 90% of the time but applications crash and whatnot. But the phone will only power up if it is plugged into the outlet.
Do you guys think the logic board done for? I have no idea what else I can do to it.
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When I got to work yesterday and pulled out my Fuze, it was displaying a low-battery warning. I have a spare battery, so I switched in the new one, but after doing so, I wasn't able to get the back cover back on. As I have had difficulty with this in the past, I didn't worry too much about it, but just gave up for the time being and decided to wait for break time to put it back together.
Later, in trying to replace the back, I realized that I had put the battery in upside down! I turned it over and was now able to replace the back. However, now the phone would not turn on at all, even with the original battery (which, although it displayed a warning, had still been on earlier).
Now, when I try to charge either battery, nothing apparently happens. Only once was I able to get the charging light to flash a few times, but then it stopped. After hours of being connected to the charger, the phone still won't turn on.
Did I destroy my phone by putting the battery in backwards? If not, what's going on here? It doesn't seem that I "just" ruined the battery, since the other one doesn't work, either.
I don't know which is worse, the feelings of depression at losing my expensive device, or the feelings of stupidity at having done such a thing.
I will be waiting in great anticipation for your suggestions....
You probably just bent the contacts inwards, so they no longer make contact with the battery electrodes. I would carefully try bending them slightly outwards. Then replace the battery and see if the phone will power up. Without the proper contact with the battery, you also can't charge the phone with a wall charger (although you can remove the battery when it's in bootloader if you have the phone plugged in through the usb port).
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You're exactly right, Ted. When I realized what it was, I was embarrassed not to have thought about it right away. In any case, everything seems to be good now -- whew!
I didn't understand you last sentence, though. Can you clarify for me, please?
Plug your phone into the wall-charger. Press and hold volume down, then do a soft reset. Keep holding vol down (not the reset button) until the tri-color screen. Now, if you want you can pull the battery and the phone will stay on. Soft reset to re-boot (it won't wipe you phone unless you screw up, lol).
So I wanted to see if my phone would survive a 20min dip in the pool and well it just may have. I waited a day for it dry and had it in rice to help draw out the water. It wouldnt turn on. I took it to ATT and they put in a new battery and it turned on but turned off. I left it hooked up to the charger overnight and woke up this morning to find it at the please insert SIM screen. Now I can only get it to the bootloader screen and it turns off. Anybody have some suggestions on things I can try to get it running again? Nothing is off limits since it not like i have to worry about breaking it....
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Update: Plugged it back in the charger and it went all the way to sense again. It says low battery and to connect to charger even though it is, so I'm thinking new battery?
First all leave it to dry some more,another day or so,then try it,i would also get another battery .
by the sound of it the device had not dried properly before you tried to power it on.
good luck.
I just went to ATT to try another battery, but it wouldnt turn on now. Maybe the battery contacts on the phone need to be replaced, is there a place to get parts or to test what needs to be replaced. I have a multimeter and soldering iron.
When you dried it did you have the pc board exposed or has the case still been sealed?
good day.
still sealed. it turned on, i refuse to believe there is still water in there even if that is the fact.
sookster54 said:
Get a bag of rice, fill a large bowl halfway and put the disassembled device ontop then fill the rest of the bowl of the rice and leave for a coule days or so. It fixed my soaked Palm Pilot over 10 years ago.
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timmymarsh said:
Take out the battery, sim card etc, leave in a dry warm room for 2-3 days, do not be tempted to turn it on before this time.
Good luck, you may be lucky and it dries out fine, but if water has been in there whilst the device was on for some time, then it may be not good news.
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I Refuse To Believe A Fact.. (there might be a tee shirt here )
But anyway I'm quoting someone that would know. Our devices are like ships in a bottle. Just 1 spec of moisture across 2 legs of an integrated circuit under power will lead to certain failure.
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Update: Last night I gave it another go and the phone turned on again. Earlier in the day I tried bringing it to ATT but a new battery didnt help. When it turned on for me, it would switch from battery mode to charging mode when I plugged in the charger but would still say battery low please plug in charger. Also the charging light doesn't come up when I plug it in, though the led mightve been shorted. Should I be trying to Task 29 and reflash or is this definitely a hardware problem?
Update: Today, I task29 and reflashed the rom with no problem. I even made a phone call and received a call. The speaker may be dead because it didnt ring, but it did vibrate. The main problem seems to be the power management. The phone says the battery is low and turns off after a few minutes. IT does recognize the charger in the taskbar but still has the low battery message pop up. Is there a piece of hardware that is involved in the power management that can be replaced? I was looking at this: http://cnn.cn/shop/touch-pro2-flex-cable-extusb-connector-vibrate-module-p-8259.html
So today, as i was on my way to work I accidentally held down the lockscreen button and the power menu popped up (I was on Glorious Overdoes V2) in the middle of a text and i pressed reboot accidentally... My phone never rebooted... It was stuck on the black Sidekick 4G/T-Mobile screen and then it would go black, then once again that screen would pop up... I removed the battery and put it back in, and without me pressing any buttons the same screen came back up... I let it sit for a while and after 20minutes nothing changed except the phone got really hot. Luckily I had my OLD Nokia in my car and popped my SIM card in it so that i could continue having a phone. I let The Sidekick sit for 4hours and it was extremely hot and then eventually it just turned off completely (Im assuming the battery drained, it was at 90% 4 hours before.) I got home, plugged it in and it wouldn't even turn on the charging screen. Somebody told me that my Motherboard is fried but I don't know. I called T-mobile and they're going to send me a new phone since it's still in the 1-year warranty period.
Anyone know if they're going to be able to inspect my old device and find out if i rooted/flashed it? because i can't get into it or anything to ODIN
I feel like they will try putting a new battery in it, and if it still wont turn on you should be fine.
It got hot because the CPU was churning over something and couldn't enter a low power state. I bet you could coax the phone into download mode and reflash it.
what do you mean coax the phone into download mode? by using the button combo to get it into download mode when turning on? I've tried that and it doesn't work. I tried rebooting into recovery and that wont work either. Also, it wont charge the battery anymore...
I've always had a hard time getting into download mode, and my phone works fine. I just spent 5 minutes trying different combinations until I got it.
I've heard people say trackpad-power button, volume down-home-power button, volume up/down-put battery in-plug in USB, etc etc etc. But the only method that works for me is to put in the battery, plug in the USB, wait for the charging screen, then hold volume down-trackpad-power, releasing power as soon as the screen goes black
You say your phone is turning on as soon as the battery is inserted? What if you have it plugged into USB first?
I had the exact same problem, I sent it into samsung and they just replaced a part(never told me which one) and it was fixed. I did noticed that when the sccreen was poped open to show the keyboard, it would stop. But it's probably a loose cable like I've read before.
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Worst case scenario if you can't figure it out here on XDA, you could always sell it on eBay for parts as defective.
I took a nap today, and my phone had 60 percent. No background processes going or anything but the phone shut itself off anyways. Refused to turn back on or register that it was being charged when I plugged it in. I had to hold both volumes and the power button to hard reset it in to recovery (which is stock) to get it to power back on. Is there a fix for this or should I take the phone back and try something else? I haven't even had it a full 24 hours yet.
Something almost exactly like this happened with my HTC One X, after restarting it got stuck on boot... Eventually it would just show a charging light sometimes. Had to get the motherboard replaced.
On the other hand I have heard a bad battery can cause similar problems.
Just get it replaced, better safe than sorry.
Yea I just left the verizon. They pronounced my phone DOA. So they're giving me a brand new in box replacement but I have to drive to the only location in Colorado that has any white ones in Stock lol.
Never thought I would run into this moment that I need to ask for help on the forum, but I guess this is my last hope.
Here's the story:
I was on Oreo firmware and thinking of going back to Nougat because there are some apps only work on Nougat at this moment and I overall prefer Nougat design.
My phone was on S-off so I thought it would be perfectly fine for me to just flash Nougat firmware then flash the Nougat rom I desired like the good old days.
So then I launched Sunshine app, passed the compatibility test and the phone rebooted to download mode with S-off shown, everything was working fine so far.
And here was the problem happened, I typed in the command"fastboot flash zip firmwareXXX.zip".
Terminal showed error needs to reboot and flash again immediately as normal, the phone rebooted but never come back to download mode.
Now it only stays on black screen, if I tilt the phone a bit I can see the backlight glowing.
I've tried hard reset by holding power and volume down, it will reboot but still stays on black screen, neither system nor bootloader is accessible.
Even plugging to the computer detects nothing, not even QHSUSB_BULK mode.
However, the phone is able to charge though, I hook up the usb cable with a digital meter and it shows 5 volts and 0.5 amp.
I'm running out of solutions, I've searched through the entire forum and see no one has the similar experience.
This is the first time I hard brick a phone, been a loyal HTC user since good old Desire HD days.
If anyone has experience or solution for this, a kindly help is appreciated, thanks!
shasen1235 said:
Never thought I would run into this moment that I need to ask for help on the forum, but I guess this is my last hope.
Here's the story:
I was on Oreo firmware and thinking of going back to Nougat because there are some apps only work on Nougat at this moment and I overall prefer Nougat design.
My phone was on S-off so I thought it would be perfectly fine for me to just flash Nougat firmware then flash the Nougat rom I desired like the good old days.
So then I launched Sunshine app, passed the compatibility test and the phone rebooted to download mode with S-off shown, everything was working fine so far.
And here was the problem happened, I typed in the command"fastboot flash zip firmwareXXX.zip".
Terminal showed error needs to reboot and flash again immediately as normal, the phone rebooted but never come back to download mode.
Now it only stays on black screen, if I tilt the phone a bit I can see the backlight glowing.
I've tried hard reset by holding power and volume down, it will reboot but still stays on black screen, neither system nor bootloader is accessible.
Even plugging to the computer detects nothing, not even QHSUSB_BULK mode.
However, the phone is able to charge though, I hook up the usb cable with a digital meter and it shows 5 volts and 0.5 amp.
I'm running out of solutions, I've searched through the entire forum and see no one has the similar experience.
This is the first time I hard brick a phone, been a loyal HTC user since good old Desire HD days.
If anyone has experience or solution for this, a kindly help is appreciated, thanks!
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Have you held the power and volume down button both together for exactly 1 minute,
I have a u11 that took for ever to reboot with corrupt os youll notice the capacative buttons start flash if its doing something or going to reset after about 30 seconds if not and nothin happens
Take the backing off and unplug the battery,
To do this heat the backing up with a hair dryer and get some really fine guitar picks, work your way arround slowly, in my case the U11 was not glass backed only plastic and was original backing ive heard they are glass now though so be careful,
Now with the backing off and exposed, take all of the 5 or 6 screws out from the plastic ariel cover with NFC chip attached (chip is gold bend it up off battery it is not glued down)
Then from the left of the device at the bottom of the plastic cover with ncf chip on it you should see a slight gap where the vibration motor is located and sits
Get a rounded pair of tweezer and insert just the tip into the opening and very carefully pry it up, it make take a while as some of the adhesive from the backing will be holding it down,
After that is off you have now exposed the devices PCB,
From the battery youll see the connector making its way to the PCB port disconnect it and reconnect it now try to boot directly to download mode with
Power
Volume down
Both at the same time, if this did not work the disconnect the battery again and wait 24hrs for the static electricity to disperse and try again, had this work on a completely frozen unresponisve evo 10 and u11 + and also my U11
Still no luck id say the emmc on the board has gone haywire either that or possibly one of the thermal transistors has blown in which youll see either black and burnt or white and powdery,
Im a phone tech you shouldnt have any problems doing all this just take your time,
Good luck mate
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Have you held the power and volume down button both together for exactly 1 minute,
I have a u11 that took for ever to reboot with corrupt os youll notice the capacative buttons start flash if its doing something or going to reset after about 30 seconds if not and nothin happens
Take the backing off and unplug the battery,
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I've tried holding volume down and power buttons both for around 5 mins, no capacitive button blinking.
However I can tell the phone reboots several times during the procedure by seeing the backlight goes black and light up.
And about the reconnect battery route, I guess I'll just do it anyway, since the repairing price might be the same as buying a new one.
Thanks for the reply, mate!
shasen1235 said:
I've tried holding volume down and power buttons both for around 5 mins, no capacitive button blinking.
However I can tell the phone reboots several times during the procedure by seeing the backlight goes black and light up.
And about the reconnect battery route, I guess I'll just do it anyway, since the repairing price might be the same as buying a new one.
Thanks for the reply, mate!
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Sounds like the logic board is trying to initialize but there isnt sufficient power to boot it,
its kinda like when you take the battery out of a phone then plug it on to charge without a battery and there is nothing but a lit up black screen and nothing else happens as theres not enough power to boot, this sounds the same to me as there are no red or green light after the orange when plugged in,
Get a hair dryer and heat the back of the phone up a few times and then plug it into charge to see if you cant boost the cells back to life, do this a few times,
If no change id most certainly suggest removing your back cover and unplugging and replugging the battery, once unplugged leave it for a few minutes, then plug back this will refresh the chips (especially emmc as this contains your entire system and bootloader, including download mode, RUU mode)
as soon as battery is reconnected plug it in on charge and try to boot it to download mode straight away also look for any change in the batteries light colour and any blinking,
the orange light when first plugged in is normal but should blink once or twice only then change to a solid red for discharged and charging or solid green green when near on 100% charged
If the above does not work disconnect the battery for 24 hours and try again, this will fully drain any static electricity in the device that may be lingering,
If still nothing after the 24 hours buy an OEM battery from ebay and install yourself, once you have the back cover off youll see the battery takes up 3/4 of the phones actual internal size,
Same as the back cover get your hair dryer place a shamwow or thick cloth over the PCB board then heat the battery up (NOT TO MUCH THOUGH only so its hot to the touch), then with the really thin guitar picks again (they should be bendable easily and flexible) work your way around the battery to cut through the adhesive securing it down,
CAUTION be very very careful the adhesive is strong keep the battery heated at all times to avoid pericing the battery and or damaaging the lcd as this is what its secured to, just take your time and work slowly do not force it out, once all the adhesive is cut it will remove easily by using the guitar pick insert between battery and housing and gently turn the pick from left to right and will pop out, (you will see the battery move when using pick from left to right if not you havent cut the adhesive properly work around the battery once again until you get movement from it)
Sorry for the long reply haha but dont send it to htc they are absolute rubbish hope this helps ive tried to be as detailed as i can its actually alot harder trying to explain it than it actually is to do it
Matty1993 said:
Sounds like the logic board is trying to initialize but there isnt sufficient power to boot it,
its kinda like when you take the battery out of a phone then plug it on to charge without a battery and there is nothing but a lit up black screen and nothing else happens as theres not enough power to boot, this sounds the same to me as there are no red or green light after the orange when plugged in,
Get a hair dryer and heat the back of the phone up a few times and then plug it into charge to see if you cant boost the cells back to life, do this a few times,
If no change id most certainly suggest removing your back cover and unplugging and replugging the battery, once unplugged leave it for a few minutes, then plug back this will refresh the chips (especially emmc as this contains your entire system and bootloader, including download mode, RUU mode)
as soon as battery is reconnected plug it in on charge and try to boot it to download mode straight away also look for any change in the batteries light colour and any blinking,
the orange light when first plugged in is normal but should blink once or twice only then change to a solid red for discharged and charging or solid green green when near on 100% charged
If the above does not work disconnect the battery for 24 hours and try again, this will fully drain any static electricity in the device that may be lingering,
If still nothing after the 24 hours buy an OEM battery from ebay and install yourself, once you have the back cover off youll see the battery takes up 3/4 of the phones actual internal size,
Same as the back cover get your hair dryer place a shamwow or thick cloth over the PCB board then heat the battery up (NOT TO MUCH THOUGH only so its hot to the touch), then with the really thin guitar picks again (they should be bendable easily and flexible) work your way around the battery to cut through the adhesive securing it down,
CAUTION be very very careful the adhesive is strong keep the battery heated at all times to avoid pericing the battery and or damaaging the lcd as this is what its secured to, just take your time and work slowly do not force it out, once all the adhesive is cut it will remove easily by using the guitar pick insert between battery and housing and gently turn the pick from left to right and will pop out, (you will see the battery move when using pick from left to right if not you havent cut the adhesive properly work around the battery once again until you get movement from it)
Sorry for the long reply haha but dont send it to htc they are absolute rubbish hope this helps ive tried to be as detailed as i can its actually alot harder trying to explain it than it actually is to do it
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hello buddy thanks for this help, i have the same problem as the OP, i followed your instruction now i have an orange LED light up but no change, i dont know if i can access download mode or not cause my screen still black. tried htc_fastboot flash recovery but it done with FAILED not allowed on PRODUCTION device.
what should i do now, please help me, and sorry for my bad english. Thanks a lots