Latest News - Oct 9th 2013 - Clove, who specialise in sim-free/unlocked phones have suggested
that the Russian unlocking service at:
http://puman.ru/?selectlanguage=English
may be a solution for those concerned about the regional lock.
More info in the Clove blog at:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/09/25/samsung-galaxy-note-3-sim-limitations/
Whether or not the Note 3 Verizon (US) "Developer Edition" will be regionally locked remains to be seen,
At least the bootloader will, according to reports, be unlocked.
More skimpy details at the Samsung/Verizon page at: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW
More Recent News - Oct 6th 2013 - Chainfire appears to have created an app to
get round region locking for the Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 (MI7 firmware) and rooted
You can buy Chainfire a beer (£1.99) by downloading the app from the Play Store at:
http://pkg.to/eu.chainfire.regionlockaway
There is also a thread started by Chainfire at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46187852 where meanies(!) can download it free.
Recent News (01:30 Oct 3rd 2013)
Android Authority: Galaxy Note 3 region lock is an issue after all, Android 4.4 update may lock older Galaxy handsets http://goo.gl/KjgVwc
Previous news (1st Oct 2013)
A significant number of users still claim they can't use "out of region" sims despite having first used a sim for the region the Note 3 was intended for which is the way Samsung have said is the way to 'unlock' the regional sim lock.
A number of users in this thread who found their Note3 was still region locked despite following the Samsung advice have successfully unlocked their Note3 regional lock using a Russian unlocking web site at http://puman.ru/ Although I am the OP of this thread, I do not have an out of region Sim to test this out myself - so no guarantees but read the posts!
Pics say it all. The Note 3 "unlocked" models are still locked to regions like DVD's and thus not very attractive to globetrotters or international purchasers who are being asked to pay £600 or so for a crippled device.
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htc6500uk said:
Pic says it all. Will not work with USA, Australia etc. sim cards either of course.
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That better not be the case, mine will be delivered today and i'm in the U.S. next week. If it doesn't work out there like my Note 2 does, it's going straight back.
It will only accept European sim cards. As long as your UK mobile opeator has a roaming arrangement with a US carrier, you will still be able to use the phone but you won't have the option of using a sim card from Verizon, Sprint etc.
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I thought i was right to cancell my order from negrielectronics and order from clove.co.uk and it just feels stupid to be informed about this today.
I cancelled my order from clove and they sent an email for refund... no more ordering from uk or europe.
htc6500uk said:
It will only accept European sim cards. As long as your UK mobile opeator has a roaming arrangement with a US carrier, you will still be able to use the phone but you won't have the option of using a sim card from Verizon, Sprint etc.
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i'm using a sim from https://www.ulyssemobile.com/UK/index.php once i get into the states so i guess i better find out if its going to work.
Such a surprise restriction..... I'm waiting for the bad news from handtec.
I wonder what will happen to the Australian sites selling imported note 3's.
beasty54 said:
i'm using a sim from https://www.ulyssemobile.com/UK/index.php once i get into the states so i guess i better find out if its going to work.
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Will be interested to hear how you get on. Please report back!
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I am waiting for Handtec to fully refund me, already requested for a refund, this is really foolish of Samsung....
Guess I have to wait for australian stock.
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Such a surprise restriction..... I'm waiting for the bad news from handtec.
I wonder what will happen to the Australian sites selling imported note 3's.
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I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before. All we used to have to worry aboit were the radio GSM/3G/4G/LTE bands.
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I think this is an absolute disgrace to be honest, why have an unlocked, tri-band phone that wont work when you go on holiday unless you pay the absolutely disgusting roaming prices that UK networks charge?? I'm so annoyed about this, who the hell are Samsung to decide that i cant put a U.S. sim in a phone I've paid over £600 for
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I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before. All we used to have to worry aboit were the radio GSM/3G/4G/LTE bands.
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Logically its all bluff, but im thinking of a way if they could actually do that. I mean restricting the phone not accepting any carrier unless its from europe region that means samsung have full access on europe database or certain information that they could use it on their software.
99% the restriction is being applied from the software side and 99% the pro devs on here will find a way to remove that restriction. But even though ive canceled my order and just called them to confirm my cancellation. Many negative feedbacks will follow up very soon.
I wonder why, I do remember reading an article stating Samsung wanted to stop retailers selling a German device in the UK for example.
For those affected, hopefully something simple could be found to alleviate the problem, like flashing a modem from the respective country perhaps (yeah I know, wishful thinking haha).
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I am really angry about this. This is a BUSINESS phone, so many business users would have a local sim to EACH country they visit!!!
I travel to the USA a lot and always use a local SIM there, which saves thousands! Now I cannot do this?!?!?!
If I cannot unlock this "unlocked/sim-free" phone, then this is certainly the LAST Samsung I will ever buy.
Luckily got mine from O2 didnt get any such warning on box. Requested unlock code will be issed next few days.
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I believe it would just be a software restriction based on the IMSI of the SIM card inserted.
I posted about this awhile back and saw the image on this thread confirmed it. Clove.co.uk were the first to post the announcement about the restriction and it truly is a disaster for Samsung to do such a thing with the Note 3. There currently is no law Europe demanding such action so really does question their reasoning for this.
I have already contacted Samsung and I'm awaiting any comments regarding this.
I will update here and my article http://geektech.ie/index.php/europe...ote-3-reported-to-not-work-outside-of-europe/
My note 3 has just shown up, big sim restriction sticker included. Do you guys think its worth keeping the phone and waiting for a software fix to the restriction or should i send it back? I'm just annoyed about that i'm in the U.S. next week and i wont be able to use the £40 sim card i've ordered because its american. I'll also be in the U.S. again next year so while it may only be a small issue, its still an issue. Worst case scenario is that i get the girlfriend to take her iphone and put the sim card in that so i can tether.
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My note 3 has just shown up, big sim restriction sticker included. Do you guys think its worth keeping the phone and waiting for a software fix to the restriction or should i send it back? I'm just annoyed about that i'm in the U.S. next week and i wont be able to use the £40 sim card i've ordered because its american. I'll also be in the U.S. again next year so while it may only be a small issue, its still an issue. Worst case scenario is that i get the girlfriend to take her iphone and put the sim card in that so i can tether.
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Id say return it to show them we are not abide by their rules and restrictions that's totally a ripoff.
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I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before.
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I'm one of them.
The E.U. wants to eliminate the roaming cost for.all countries across. Maybe has to do with that. Nobody with Note 3 here with a foreign sim card ( non Eu) can try to see what's happening?
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I know the phone comes locked from Rogers, but I was wondering if anyone has used an online unlocking service, trimmed a SIM into a microsim, and tested that the Rogers version does in fact work on WIND.
I will be doing this shortly, so check back for updates!
April 25, 2012 Part 2
I got the SIM from my friend and marked it up.
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I cut the SIM down to microsim size.
Booted up my phone, entered the unlock code from cellunlocker.
And got no signal ):
This SIM is (was) working in an HTC Incredible S (international version that supports AWS) immediately before I trimmed it. The trim was successful since the SIM had a PIN lock and unlocking it was successful. I could also see the contacts stored on the SIM.
I went into testing mode to play with the radio settings.
And still get 'No Signal' and 'Emergency Only'.
I've notified HTC again about this and I'll let you know what they advise.
Also, if anyone wants to help me recover the cost of a new WIND SIM ($25), I'd greatly appreciate it, although it's highly unnecessary
April 25, 2012
Just an update: I contacted HTC regarding the discrepancy between the official specifications (AWS on wcdma), and Rogers' specifications (AWS on LTE only) and received this very promising response:
Thank you for contacting HTC. I would be glad to clarify this for you Daniel.
The HTC One X as sold by Rogers Wireless supports the following bands LTE CAT3 - DL 100 /UL 50; LTE: 700/AWS; WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850; EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 .
It should not be a problem for you to use an unlocked version of this device with the Canadian carrier of your choice, if you so choose. To ensure that the tech specs on our support site were accurate, I conferred with our escalations team. You can be confident that it does indeed support the bands as indicated.
As for why these specs differ on the Rogers support page, I cannot say. Originally the specs were posted there the same as the official HTC support page. I have brought this to the attention of the appropriate department internally on your behalf. They will look into contacting Rogers to see about having the data corrected on their site to avoid any further confusion to our HTC customers.
For more tech specs or to get the user manual for this phone, please visit our official support site at http://www.htc.com/ca/support/htconex-rogers/tech-specs/ . On the downloads tab you can access your user guide if necessary. Use the binocular icon on the left to enter keywords. This will search the guide and provide you a list of pages that refer to your search term.
If you have any other questions for me, please don't hesitate to reply Daniel. We are open from 6am to 1am eastern time, 7 days a week.
Thank you again for contacting HTC, and have a great evening!
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I'll follow-through on my test run on WIND tomorrow (going to cut up a friend's SIM!).
~dan
Thanks. I'll be looking forward to your findings. I'm interested in using it for Mobilicity.
soapisclean said:
Thanks. I'll be looking forward to your findings. I'm interested in using it for Mobilicity.
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I might wait a little longer before I test this since WIND will officially be selling Microsims when they release the Lumia 710. Going to trim my Rogers sim now though. Wish me luck
danada said:
I might wait a little longer before I test this since WIND will officially be selling Microsims when they release the Lumia 710. Going to trim my Rogers sim now though. Wish me luck
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Good luck from one of your southern neighbors. Damn it, T-Mobile. Why you gotta make me have to look to phones on other networks :]
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Good luck from one of your southern neighbors. Damn it, T-Mobile. Why you gotta make me have to look to phones on other networks :]
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Successfully trimmed my Rogers fat-sim into a microsim without much reference (I don't have a microsim to measure or anything). This is a good sign as I should be able to trim the WIND sim once I get this sucker unlocked!
Its about $20 to unlock, which isn't bad. I plan to buy the phone for use on WIND when the price drops a little bit more.
There is no reason why it shouldn't work apart from being SIM locked.
If you'd like to PM me when you're done, I'd like to write about it for the XDA Portal
Try to be as informative as possible lol, so I can better describe to others what you're doing
PoorCollegeGuy said:
If you'd like to PM me when you're done, I'd like to write about it for the XDA Portal
Try to be as informative as possible lol, so I can better describe to others what you're doing
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Sure thing. I might write about it as well, so it might save you some trouble and give you some pictures to work with
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Sure thing. I might write about it as well, so it might save you some trouble and give you some pictures to work with
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Did you do the unlock yet? I am very curious if the model can be used on WIND and in return T-Mobile here in the US. VERY VERY curious about this, shoot me a PM as I am willing to donate to your cause to unlock it just so I could find out the truth about the bands.
Just to let everyone know I bought the phone on Friday from rogers and used cell unlocked (google it) it only cost $8 USD and I'm now using it on Telus. The unlock code only took about an hour and they emailed it to me.
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killathenoob said:
Just to let everyone know I bought the phone on Friday from rogers and used cell unlocked (google it) it only cost $8 USD and I'm now using it on Telus. The unlock code only took about an hour and they emailed it to me.
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Hey, since as far as I can tell your the only one with an unlocked rogers 1x (Hofo/xda at least) do you have any way to test the phone on wind or Moblicity
Just an update, I will be porting my number over to WIND on the 27th or so. This should be the definitive date on whether this actually works and that I can trim my second SIM successfully q:
I've been collecting pictures of the process, and I will probably be writing about it once complete.
~dan
danada said:
Just an update, I will be porting my number over to WIND on the 27th or so. This should be the definitive date on whether this actually works and that I can trim my second SIM successfully q:
I've been collecting pictures of the process, and I will probably be writing about it once complete.
~dan
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Awesome, thanks. I'm stuck waiting till 5/6 to get my hands on one. But for me it's really important that it works on T-Mobile. Because that's what I ideally will be using and so if your test goes smoothly I will know that as a worst case scenario I can always purchase the Rogers model.
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Hey, since as far as I can tell your the only one with an unlocked rogers 1x (Hofo/xda at least) do you have any way to test the phone on wind or Moblicity
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No sorry I have no way of testing it on WIND or moblicity I dont think that any o0f my friends on thoes carriers will like it if I cut up there sim card to test lol
Sweet! Can you direct me to the $8 unlock? That would be epic!!!
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I would also love to hear about success/failure unlocking and making it work with Wind or Mobilicity! Wooten!
muchski said:
Sweet! Can you direct me to the $8 unlock? That would be epic!!!
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I would also love to hear about success/failure unlocking and making it work with Wind or Mobilicity! Wooten!
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Www.cellunlocker.net is the site I used
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Www.cellunlocker.net is the site I used
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Big ups! Way better than spending $50 some places charge for unlocking new devices!
Hey can you message me too when you get the results.
Does future shop allow to buy it off-contract price? I'm looking to buy it and unlock it to use with wind.
htc fan89 said:
Does future shop allow to buy it off-contract price? I'm looking to buy it and unlock it to use with wind.
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I'd wait on that, it seems compatibility is pretty far from confirmed
So, anyone picking one up? Just wondering.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
Spectredroid said:
So, anyone picking one up? Just wondering.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
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Soon as it gets to the V store
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Naw...Have a wifi one, I tether to my Note 2. Silly Verizon.
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Naw...Have a wifi one, I tether to my Note 2. Silly Verizon.
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Exactly- why bother paying $ extra / month..... you can just tether
The 16GB N8000 is $632 all-in including overnight delivery from Handtech in the UK. The VZW Note is $599 plus tax making it about the same price. The N8000 is literally a phone so you can use it as a spare or when you're making video calls or on long conference calls. VZW will kill the phone and MMS feature in their version. You'll receive updates from Samsung or can use Odin to install the latest on the N8000. You're at VZW's mercy for their version. You can use the N8000 on one of the AT&T MVNO's on a cheap voice/data plan, use AT&T's DataConnect plan and pay-as-you-go ($30 = 3GB), or add it to an AT&T FamilyShare account for $10 a month. VZW is $40 a month for 4GB or $10 if you add it to an existing shared account. With VZW you'll get LTE with the N8000 you'll get HSPA+ on AT&T. You'll also have to live with the giant VZW tramp stamp on their version which is the largest gaudiest logo placement ever seen on a mobile device.
Happy deciding.
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The 16GB N8000 is $632 all-in including overnight delivery from Handtech in the UK. The VZW Note is $599 plus tax making it about the same price. The N8000 is literally a phone so you can use it as a spare or when you're making video calls or on long conference calls. VZW will kill the phone and MMS feature in their version. You'll receive updates from Samsung or can use Odin to install the latest on the N8000. You're at VZW's mercy for their version. You can use the N8000 on one of the AT&T MVNO's on a cheap voice/data plan, use AT&T's DataConnect plan and pay-as-you-go ($30 = 3GB), or add it to an AT&T FamilyShare account for $10 a month. VZW is $40 a month for 4GB or $10 if you add it to an existing shared account. With VZW you'll get LTE with the N8000 you'll get HSPA+ on AT&T. You'll also have to live with the giant VZW tramp stamp on their version which is the largest gaudiest logo placement ever seen on a mobile device.
Happy deciding.
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I dont mind the logo gonna use a cover
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BarryH_GEG said:
You'll also have to live with the giant VZW tramp stamp on their version which is the largest gaudiest logo placement ever seen on a mobile device.
Happy deciding.
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Hilarious. I will be getting one as I have a line open doing nothing. You of course are correct about Verizon and their tactics, but since I am locked in for another year, I will have a note 10.1 for that time. Besides, we'll get it rooted and change everything anyway.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
BarryH_GEG said:
The 16GB N8000 is $632 all-in including overnight delivery from Handtech in the UK.
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Hell, I got mine from a vendor in Vegas- don't even have to shop overseas!
getting one at 9am on Thursday morning!
Can't wait --- btw, the phone function is still active on the verizon version.....a little birdie who works at verizon told me that today!
time to root so that we can activate the functionality.
biswasd said:
time to root so that we can activate the functionality
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... I just hope you'll be able to; VZ tends to be dicks WRT to locked bootloaders.
Got mine. Now to root.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
Spectredroid said:
Got mine. Now to root.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
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just picked up mine as well.....signal strength on this thing in awesome! gets at least 5dB more than my note 2 how are you planning to root with out a b-loader unlock?
would love to root as well to unlock the phone capability, but just not sure which method to use for root....?
biswasd said:
just picked up mine as well.....signal strength on this thing in awesome! gets at least 5dB more than my note 2 how are you planning to root with out a b-loader unlock?
would love to root as well to unlock the phone capability, but just not sure which method to use for root....?
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i am checking on cf root will let you know if it works
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i am checking on cf root will let you know if it works
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Did you get it to work?
Shhhh.................warranties broken.
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Did you get it to work?
Shhhh.................warranties broken.
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Not yet
Hey, folks who picked one up already - would you be able to do me a favour please?
If you have a T-Mobile or AT&T (or even international) SIM card, would you be able to put that into the VZW Note 10.1 to see if the tablet is SIM-unlocked out of the box? I know Verizon does this with some LTE devices (like the iPhone 5) lately.
Thanks very much!
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Hey, folks who picked one up already - would you be able to do me a favour please?
If you have a T-Mobile or AT&T (or even international) SIM card, would you be able to put that into the VZW Note 10.1 to see if the tablet is SIM-unlocked out of the box? I know Verizon does this with some LTE devices (like the iPhone 5) lately.
Thanks very much!
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the tablet is somewhat. However I was able to call Verizon and request a sim unlock code and they gave it to me.
Thanks for letting me know!
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biswasd said:
the tablet is somewhat. However I was able to call Verizon and request a sim unlock code and they gave it to me.
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how were you able to get an unlock for the device? i got mine today, been on the phone for hours and i couldn't get an unlock on it.
kennyx13 said:
how were you able to get an unlock for the device? i got mine today, been on the phone for hours and i couldn't get an unlock on it.
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I picked mine up last week. Being from Canada, I put my Telus SIM in it and it seems to be working. However, I get an annoying notification message saying "Non-Verizon SIM" that won't go away.
Might be a lame question, but want to make sure I don't get burned before I buy this. Found a craigslist post for an almost brand new Nexus 5, apparently from Tmobile. Here is the title "GOOGLE NEXUS 5 BY LG T-MOBILE 16GB"
Will I be able to use this Straight Talk? Could this somehow be locked to Tmobile under contract? That is my only concern.
Thanks for any help
Yes. Although you'll need to buy the right one for your country (D820 for North America, D821 for everywhere else)
So far, no Nexus 5's have come locked so it looks like they're all unlocked.
Some older Nexus' did turn up locked though, but so far no one has seen a locked N5 so the assumption that all N5's are unlocked is a safe one.
So I picked up a N5, 16GB black with box, no charger which is no big deal for $260. I get back to work and the phone isn't wiped, lots of d**k pics. I can't believe some people.
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So I picked up a N5, 16GB black with box, no charger which is no big deal for $260. I get back to work and the phone isn't wiped, lots of d**k pics. I can't believe some people.
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Some would say you got your moneys worth. :laugh:
So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
idigg said:
So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
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make sure u have the right apns?
idigg said:
So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
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Phone could be blacklisted and stolen which would explain no charger or box.
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make sure u have the right apns?
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This. Make sure you check APN settings otherwise you won't get any data
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Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
idigg said:
Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
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i was about to get N5 off craigslist lol im glad i seen this ill just pay full price
I have one that is clean and barely used if you are still interested. Woman switched to the iPhone 5s today. Inbox me if you are interested.
idigg said:
Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
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Do you have any info of the person you bought if from. I always try to get a license plate of their vehicle just in case.
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You are screwed if the guy you bought it from isn't the original owner, that could be the reason why it wasn't wiped.
From what I hear the only way to get it delisted is to have the original owner, the one that reported it stolen call in. If he is the guy that you bought it from have the police make him call T-Mobile or give you a refund.
THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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I'm pretty sure the north American one has more frequencies. Wikipedia is a good place to look.
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THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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Most information on Bands for the D820 is taken from google's info, which I'm sure you won't believe but is actually not accurate. The maximum LTE bands the WTR1605L included in the MSM8794 of the snapdragon 800 is 7, which is actually the most any chip today can do - BUT teh google site and many other sites list 9 bands - which isn't quite right.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131705
The D821 does:
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
The D820 is reported to do:
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
However, looking at the box of the N5, you'll only see 7 listed:
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If T-Mobile works well in your area and your not in a contact use straight talk
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I ordered an Unlocked LG G7 ThinQ, UK/EU Model LM-G710EM from Clove in the UK. (They remove the Region Lock by making a 30-minute call using a regional SIM card prior to shipment.)
Paid 500 GBP + 19 GBP for DHL shipping, or the equivalent of about $695.00 U.S. total. I've ordered phones from Clove at least 12 times over the past few years (pretty much all unlocked Sony's, with a couple of Samsung's too), and I've never had any issues; plus their packages always arrive in 2-3 business days from the UK to Las Vegas...super fast if you use DHL! (Just don't expect any warranty support for other-region models in the U.S., of course.)
It will arrive here this coming week, and I am going to try it out on T-Mobile here in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Now, it's hard to pin down exactly what LTE bands LG regional variants actually support, because there has historically been so much variation even within their same model numbers...so it's always a bit of a gamble.
But I believe that it should work well with T-Mobile here in the U.S., based on a picture that I found from an eBay seller of what his box reads for supported bands of this "GBR" variant of LM-G710EM:
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Even though all variants should include all of these bands hardware-wise, I don't believe that LG lists them all on the box unless they are actually supported by the regional software installed.
I am only really hoping for LTE Bands 2, 4, and 12 to work well...I don't personally care about 66 or 71.
So anyways...I will update after receipt and testing!
Cheers,
VegasRooted
I just got an LM-G710EMW and having no problems in the US with ATT LTE - box listed the plethora of bands included with the phone, I need dual SIM and Asian coverage for my frequent travels. Only complaint after a few days is battery life is ok (better than my S9 but still hard to get in a full day of heavy use without a charge) and you really have to physically touch and hold the back of the phone to a terminal to get it to recognize the NFC. Not the usual quick tap from other phones,
TGUY25 said:
I just got an LM-G710EMW and having no problems in the US with ATT LTE - box listed the plethora of bands included with the phone, I need dual SIM and Asian coverage for my frequent travels. Only complaint after a few days is battery life is ok (better than my S9 but still hard to get in a full day of heavy use without a charge) and you really have to physically touch and hold the back of the phone to a terminal to get it to recognize the NFC. Not the usual quick tap from other phones,
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That's really great to hear on the LTE side, thanks for the info TGuy25!
Bummer on the weak NFC though...and the battery life. Hopefully the battery life will even out a bit, you know how new phones are in the first few days of use....
T-Mobile LTE Reception Results
So...I received the phone yesterday, but unfortunately Clove had forgotten to break the seal on the box and use a U.K/European SIM to make a 30-minute call, in order to remove the UK/EU Region Lock (considered a "Network Lock" by LG).
Oh well, at least the phone got here in two business days, as usual when using DHL Express; and I guess it was nice being the first one to actually break the seal and open the box. So...I didn't really feel like bothering to explain things to Clove and wait for their resolution, so I just ordered an unlock code last night from "The Unlocking Company" on their website. (I paid $14.00 for the code, which I received by email while I slept.) It took quite a few hours longer than their estimated timeframe for delivery of the code (likely LG's fault in providing the code to them in a timely manner after they requested it), but it was worth the wait: I successfully used it this morning to remove the Network Lock, and everything was good to go.
By the way, here is a picture of the label from my phone's box:
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I had a chance to test out the phone's LTE reception today on a cross-town drive here in Las Vegas. I used the LTE Discovery app to log the T-Mobile bands that the phone used on my way from home in the northwest area of Las Vegas, down to the sportsbook at the Westgate Hotel & Casino (formerly the Las Vegas Hilton), and then back home again. The phone apparently used Band 2 (11 times), Band 4 (27 times), and even Band 12 (1 time). Here is a screencap of a portion of the log data:
So far (and it's only been less than one day), I'm quite satisfied with the cellular network and WiFi performance of this model, as well as it's bluetooth functionality. Wireless charging is also a go, using the built-in Qi pad in my Toyota Tacoma. (I have a Ringke Onyx case on the phone, and the wireless charging works fine through the case.)
Anyways, I really hope this information is helpful to anyone out there who may be considering an unlocked U.K./E.U. LG G7 ThinQ (Model # LM-G710EM) for use in the U.S. on T-Mobile. I would personally recommend it.
Cheers,
VegasRooted
Does this model dual SIM? Does it support call making through WiFi? Please advise, thank you very much!
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Does this model dual SIM? Does it support call making through WiFi? Please advise, thank you very much!
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No, the LM-G710EM model is not dual-SIM, and it does not appear to support Wi-Fi calling without using a third-party app to do so. (No mention of Wi-Fi calling in any of the Settings menus, etc.)
do you notice a significant drop call problem or missing calls on this device when you using on T-mobile?
I love my G6 international version. The LTE data speeds is as good as or better than the T-Mobile device. The only problem I was having is the dropping voice calls, other than that it's all good.
So i am thinking to buy the G7 unlocked as well from outside of US since I feel that always better than the locked US model.
But I do concern that it might have the same situation as my G6 for the voice call.
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do you notice a significant drop call problem or missing calls on this device when you using on T-mobile?
I love my G6 international version. The LTE data speeds is as good as or better than the T-Mobile device. The only problem I was having is the dropping voice calls, other than that it's all good.
So i am thinking to buy the G7 unlocked as well from outside of US since I feel that always better than the locked US model.
But I do concern that it might have the same situation as my G6 for the voice call.
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No, I can't say that I've experienced even one dropped call yet; reception and signal strength have been solid. This is in Las Vegas, however; we have pretty great T-Mobile coverage here, so it depends on where you live as well. Having said that, when comparing it to the probably 20 different phones that I've tried out here in Las Vegas on T-Mobile over the past few years (mostly Sony), I would say that this G7 has been among the best. I would give it an 8 out of 10 for reception. (There have been a few Sony phones that I would give a "9" to, but they have always been great for me in that regard.)
Hope this helps!
Cheers,
VegasRooted
VegasRooted said:
No, the LM-G710EM model is not dual-SIM, and it does not appear to support Wi-Fi calling without using a third-party app to do so. (No mention of Wi-Fi calling in any of the Settings menus, etc.)
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The phone is capable of WiFi calling, bit thev options have been disabled in the phone's firmware. Unfortunately the network branded UK variant is the same
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stuclark said:
The phone is capable of WiFi calling, bit thev options have been disabled in the phone's firmware. Unfortunately the network branded UK variant is the same
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This model (LM-G710EM) is the Unlocked Global model, with regional U.K./E.U. software. It is NOT "network branded". It is 100% network unlocked, and has zero carrier bloatware/branding of any kind.
Now, you can buy "network branded" LG G7's within the U.K. (from carriers such as Three, EE, O2, etc.)...but this particular model is not one of theirs (though they may carry the same generic model number, which doesn't account for carrier/regional software variants); the model and software variant that I have is completely unlocked and unbranded.
Wi-Fi Calling is a feature specific to individual carrier capability, and as such, is not included in this unlocked, global variant of the LG G7. I am happy that this is the case, because I personally do not want Wi-Fi calling on any of my Unlocked Global phones; I consider it to be added-on bloatware in the settings menu for something that I'll never use.
Cheers,
VegasRooted
VegasRooted said:
This model (LM-G710EM) is the Unlocked Global model, with regional U.K./E.U. software. It is NOT "network branded". It is 100% network unlocked, and has zero carrier bloatware/branding of any kind.
Now, you can buy "network branded" LG G7's within the U.K. (from carriers such as Three, EE, O2, etc.)...but this particular model is not one of theirs (though they may carry the same generic model number, which doesn't account for carrier/regional software variants); the model and software variant that I have is completely unlocked and unbranded.
Wi-Fi Calling is a feature specific to individual carrier capability, and as such, is not included in this unlocked, global variant of the LG G7. I am happy that this is the case, because I personally do not want Wi-Fi calling on any of my Unlocked Global phones; I consider it to be added-on bloatware in the settings menu for something that I'll never use.
Cheers,
VegasRooted
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The model number doesn't matter at all; what's important is the software variant installed on the phone. LG use the same model number for network branded and genetic models in the UK, bit install different firmwares on them, some of which may have WiFi calling etc enabled.
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VegasRooted said:
So...I received the phone yesterday, but unfortunately Clove had forgotten to break the seal on the box and use a U.K/European SIM to make a 30-minute call, in order to remove the UK/EU Region Lock (considered a "Network Lock" by LG).
Oh well, at least the phone got here in two business days, as usual when using DHL Express; and I guess it was nice being the first one to actually break the seal and open the box. So...I didn't really feel like bothering to explain things to Clove and wait for their resolution, so I just ordered an unlock code last night from "The Unlocking Company" on their website. (I paid $14.00 for the code, which I received by email while I slept.) It took quite a few hours longer than their estimated timeframe for delivery of the code (likely LG's fault in providing the code to them in a timely manner after they requested it), but it was worth the wait: I successfully used it this morning to remove the Network Lock, and everything was good to go.
By the way, here is a picture of the label from my phone's box:
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I had a chance to test out the phone's LTE reception today on a cross-town drive here in Las Vegas. I used the LTE Discovery app to log the T-Mobile bands that the phone used on my way from home in the northwest area of Las Vegas, down to the sportsbook at the Westgate Hotel & Casino (formerly the Las Vegas Hilton), and then back home again. The phone apparently used Band 2 (11 times), Band 4 (27 times), and even Band 12 (1 time). Here is a screencap of a portion of the log data:
View attachment 4525253
So far (and it's only been less than one day), I'm quite satisfied with the cellular network and WiFi performance of this model, as well as it's bluetooth functionality. Wireless charging is also a go, using the built-in Qi pad in my Toyota Tacoma. (I have a Ringke Onyx case on the phone, and the wireless charging works fine through the case.)
Anyways, I really hope this information is helpful to anyone out there who may be considering an unlocked U.K./E.U. LG G7 ThinQ (Model # LM-G710EM) for use in the U.S. on T-Mobile. I would personally recommend it.
Cheers,
VegasRooted
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how long did it take before you get the unlock code?
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how long did it take before you get the unlock code?
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I placed the order online at 6:00pm on a Monday night, and received the code at 3:54am Tuesday morning. (So approximately 10 hours.)
They apparently are usually much faster than that, but I guess it all depends on how fast LG gets back to them on their request.
Cheers,
VegasRooted
VegasRooted said:
I placed the order online at 6:00pm on a Monday night, and received the code at 3:54am Tuesday morning. (So approximately 10 hours.)
They apparently are usually much faster than that, but I guess it all depends on how fast LG gets back to them on their request.
Cheers,
VegasRooted
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Wait you rooted the G7 TMO USA variant ??
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Wait you rooted the G7 TMO USA variant ??
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No, this is the U.K./E.U. Un-Branded Variant (LM-G710EM), and it was basically a SIM-Unlock (Network Unlock) to remove the Region Lock.
Cheers,
Jeff
VegasRooted said:
No, this is the U.K./E.U. Un-Branded Variant (LM-G710EM), and it was basically a SIM-Unlock (Network Unlock) to remove the Region Lock.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Ah ok got me a tad bit excited there LOL. Enjoy!
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My mother lives in a T-mobile dead zone. Is there a work-around for wi-fi calling? It's the only way for me to make calls when I'm there.
Maybe a third party app, or flashing the t-mobile csc? A maniac on here got the Korean Note 8 fully working on T-mobile by flashing the US csc. Thanks!
Yay! Thread Killer! :\
This is this.
VegasRooted said:
I ordered an Unlocked LG G7 ThinQ, UK/EU Model LM-G710EM from Clove in the UK. (They remove the Region Lock by making a 30-minute call using a regional SIM card prior to shipment.)
Paid 500 GBP + 19 GBP for DHL shipping, or the equivalent of about $695.00 U.S. total. I've ordered phones from Clove at least 12 times over the past few years (pretty much all unlocked Sony's, with a couple of Samsung's too), and I've never had any issues; plus their packages always arrive in 2-3 business days from the UK to Las Vegas...super fast if you use DHL! (Just don't expect any warranty support for other-region models in the U.S., of course.)
It will arrive here this coming week, and I am going to try it out on T-Mobile here in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Now, it's hard to pin down exactly what LTE bands LG regional variants actually support, because there has historically been so much variation even within their same model numbers...so it's always a bit of a gamble.
But I believe that it should work well with T-Mobile here in the U.S., based on a picture that I found from an eBay seller of what his box reads for supported bands of this "GBR" variant of LM-G710EM:
Even though all variants should include all of these bands hardware-wise, I don't believe that LG lists them all on the box unless they are actually supported by the regional software installed.
I am only really hoping for LTE Bands 2, 4, and 12 to work well...I don't personally care about 66 or 71.
So anyways...I will update after receipt and testing!
Cheers,
VegasRooted
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from a UNR loyalist, you may be able to flash your carriers modems through twrp once they are captured in an update. Once this is possible it removes the major obstacle to the cross flash rooting method
People have denied that this even is something that can be on this phone. I've search everywhere any advice, I reached out to my carrier, I've even just given it time. The checkin dialer code verifies on connected to Internet but still, my OEM unlock is grayed out and says connect to the Internet or contact your carrier. It's some bs. I've read this is what Verizon models will display and it's a lost cause but this was a brand new tmo pixel 7 pro and I triple checked the packaging it has the T-Mobile information inside the box and the seal states it tmo. I just wanna unlock my bootloader. I've ran out of ideas and looked everywhere, so I'm posting to get some advice please if you have anything lemme know.
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People have denied that this even is something that can be on this phone. I've search everywhere any advice, I reached out to my carrier, ....
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And what did the carrier say?
Regardless of which carrier you have, you must fully pay off the device before you can have them normally allow for OEM unlocking if you did not purchase the "factory unlocked" version of the device. Of course, there are ways around that via contacting your carrier before fully paying off the device. But you mentioned that you had contacted them.
So, as @bobby janow said: what did the carrier say?
Contact tmo thru Twitter tech support until u get someone to unlock the BL.. Keep trying
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And what did the carrier say?
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The carrier had no clue what it was and they weren't sure what to do I spoke with several people and nothing. ive gotten many devices unlocked by pestering the Twitter folk till they unlock it and here is the kicker I've had 2 tmo people try to unlock it now it didn't let them and even paid a company to try and it says it is blocked for potential motherboard replacement. But its a brand new phone. I have the op 10 pro still on contract rooted unlocked obv and twrp on it as of a few days ago. Just this phone is being weird
You cannot unlock without a full sim unlock. Not a temporary one.
@tmobilehelp on Twitter can help you.
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You cannot unlock without a full sim unlock. Not a temporary one.
@tmobilehelp on Twitter can help you.
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I know you can't. my new phone is blocked from getting the full SIM lock. Which I don't get how.
abbbennett12353 said:
I know you can't. my new phone is blocked from getting the full SIM lock. Which I don't get how.
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Is the prompt asking for and internet connection or contacting the carrier normal?
abbbennett12353 said:
I know you can't. my new phone is blocked from getting the full SIM lock. Which I don't get how.
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Dude, never, ever, ever buy a phone from a carrier if you plan to unlock/root your phone.
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Dude, never, ever, ever buy a phone from a carrier if you plan to unlock/root your phone.
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Yo the TMobile people lied to me and screwed sending me 3 broken OnePlus 10 pros one after the other through insurance and then I got drunk and spent 8 hours *****ing and they gave me a brand new 10 pro and a new pixel 7 pro completely free of charge
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Yo the TMobile people lied to me and screwed sending me 3 broken OnePlus 10 pros one after the other through insurance and then I got drunk and spent 8 hours *****ing and they gave me a brand new 10 pro and a new pixel 7 pro completely free of charge
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Can I really complain that much!?!?!
Btw I have discovered a lot of Verizon deep links and bs in activity launcher does anyone know what numbers of the IMEI determine the carrier for verizon
I just got my Pixel 7 PRO yestersday. In the same day I had it unlocked and a custom ROM put on it. Although I was honest and told them I needed it unlocked for development reasons. Plus I've had 3 phones through them that were sim unlocked before being paid off. I guess part of it might be a trust thing.
I'll just get a new pixel it's just a dumb fault I guess yes I know it has to be paid to do the permanent unlock except through Twitter it's a strange issue that I have
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I just got my Pixel 7 PRO yestersday. In the same day I had it unlocked and a custom ROM put on it. Although I was honest and told them I needed it unlocked for development reasons. Plus I've had 3 phones through them that were sim unlocked before being paid off. I guess part of it might be a trust thing.
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I'm Genuinely a great customer to them I've had several unlocked early and currently have the oneplus unlocked the pixel though was denyed for unlock even by the TMobile employees
The best thing you can do is take it slow and easy and keep trying different people. You can always try hitting them up on Twitter
apophis9283 said:
The best thing you can do is take it slow and easy and keep trying different people. You can always try hitting them up on Twitter
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Oh I know I genuinely don't have a hard time with it the devices is broked completely banned from getting permanent unlocks I just paid for a IMEI check and have in the past as well. 2 tmo people have genuinely tried to do unlock it already and their system wouldn't even allow it so I'm Gunna just get a new one for 5 bucks with insurance
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Oh I know I genuinely don't have a hard time with it the devices is broked completely banned from getting permanent unlocks I just paid for a IMEI check and have in the past as well. 2 tmo people have genuinely tried to do unlock it already and their system wouldn't even allow it so I'm Gunna just get a new one for 5 bucks with insurance
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They can do it. They're just choosing not to. The same day I got my pixel 7 pro I had it unlocked. So I know they can do it
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The carrier had no clue what it was and they weren't sure what to do I spoke with several people and nothing. ive gotten many devices unlocked by pestering the Twitter folk till they unlock it and here is the kicker I've had 2 tmo people try to unlock it now it didn't let them and even paid a company to try and it says it is blocked for potential motherboard replacement. But its a brand new phone. I have the op 10 pro still on contract rooted unlocked obv and twrp on it as of a few days ago. Just this phone is being weird
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@avid_droid went through the exact same thing (t-mobile, not first time unlocking, talking through twitter, reaching reps who don' t know anything, etc.)...
I'll link his thread speaking on it below...maybe you can commiserate together
TMobile shenanigans
So as of late, TMobile doesn't unlock devices now unless you meet their requirements. The 40 day connected and paid off rule. Impressed they are tight on this now. I recently had a OnePlus 9 pro that was paid off and bought elsewhere and they...
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