So, anyone picking one up? Just wondering.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
Spectredroid said:
So, anyone picking one up? Just wondering.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
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Soon as it gets to the V store
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Naw...Have a wifi one, I tether to my Note 2. Silly Verizon.
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Naw...Have a wifi one, I tether to my Note 2. Silly Verizon.
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Exactly- why bother paying $ extra / month..... you can just tether
The 16GB N8000 is $632 all-in including overnight delivery from Handtech in the UK. The VZW Note is $599 plus tax making it about the same price. The N8000 is literally a phone so you can use it as a spare or when you're making video calls or on long conference calls. VZW will kill the phone and MMS feature in their version. You'll receive updates from Samsung or can use Odin to install the latest on the N8000. You're at VZW's mercy for their version. You can use the N8000 on one of the AT&T MVNO's on a cheap voice/data plan, use AT&T's DataConnect plan and pay-as-you-go ($30 = 3GB), or add it to an AT&T FamilyShare account for $10 a month. VZW is $40 a month for 4GB or $10 if you add it to an existing shared account. With VZW you'll get LTE with the N8000 you'll get HSPA+ on AT&T. You'll also have to live with the giant VZW tramp stamp on their version which is the largest gaudiest logo placement ever seen on a mobile device.
Happy deciding.
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The 16GB N8000 is $632 all-in including overnight delivery from Handtech in the UK. The VZW Note is $599 plus tax making it about the same price. The N8000 is literally a phone so you can use it as a spare or when you're making video calls or on long conference calls. VZW will kill the phone and MMS feature in their version. You'll receive updates from Samsung or can use Odin to install the latest on the N8000. You're at VZW's mercy for their version. You can use the N8000 on one of the AT&T MVNO's on a cheap voice/data plan, use AT&T's DataConnect plan and pay-as-you-go ($30 = 3GB), or add it to an AT&T FamilyShare account for $10 a month. VZW is $40 a month for 4GB or $10 if you add it to an existing shared account. With VZW you'll get LTE with the N8000 you'll get HSPA+ on AT&T. You'll also have to live with the giant VZW tramp stamp on their version which is the largest gaudiest logo placement ever seen on a mobile device.
Happy deciding.
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I dont mind the logo gonna use a cover
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BarryH_GEG said:
You'll also have to live with the giant VZW tramp stamp on their version which is the largest gaudiest logo placement ever seen on a mobile device.
Happy deciding.
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Hilarious. I will be getting one as I have a line open doing nothing. You of course are correct about Verizon and their tactics, but since I am locked in for another year, I will have a note 10.1 for that time. Besides, we'll get it rooted and change everything anyway.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
BarryH_GEG said:
The 16GB N8000 is $632 all-in including overnight delivery from Handtech in the UK.
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Hell, I got mine from a vendor in Vegas- don't even have to shop overseas!
getting one at 9am on Thursday morning!
Can't wait --- btw, the phone function is still active on the verizon version.....a little birdie who works at verizon told me that today!
time to root so that we can activate the functionality.
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time to root so that we can activate the functionality
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... I just hope you'll be able to; VZ tends to be dicks WRT to locked bootloaders.
Got mine. Now to root.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
Spectredroid said:
Got mine. Now to root.
From an unlocked Note 2. Hmm...... Can you hear me Verizon, out on Uranus?
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just picked up mine as well.....signal strength on this thing in awesome! gets at least 5dB more than my note 2 how are you planning to root with out a b-loader unlock?
would love to root as well to unlock the phone capability, but just not sure which method to use for root....?
biswasd said:
just picked up mine as well.....signal strength on this thing in awesome! gets at least 5dB more than my note 2 how are you planning to root with out a b-loader unlock?
would love to root as well to unlock the phone capability, but just not sure which method to use for root....?
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i am checking on cf root will let you know if it works
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i am checking on cf root will let you know if it works
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Did you get it to work?
Shhhh.................warranties broken.
Spectredroid said:
Did you get it to work?
Shhhh.................warranties broken.
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Not yet
Hey, folks who picked one up already - would you be able to do me a favour please?
If you have a T-Mobile or AT&T (or even international) SIM card, would you be able to put that into the VZW Note 10.1 to see if the tablet is SIM-unlocked out of the box? I know Verizon does this with some LTE devices (like the iPhone 5) lately.
Thanks very much!
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Hey, folks who picked one up already - would you be able to do me a favour please?
If you have a T-Mobile or AT&T (or even international) SIM card, would you be able to put that into the VZW Note 10.1 to see if the tablet is SIM-unlocked out of the box? I know Verizon does this with some LTE devices (like the iPhone 5) lately.
Thanks very much!
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the tablet is somewhat. However I was able to call Verizon and request a sim unlock code and they gave it to me.
Thanks for letting me know!
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biswasd said:
the tablet is somewhat. However I was able to call Verizon and request a sim unlock code and they gave it to me.
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how were you able to get an unlock for the device? i got mine today, been on the phone for hours and i couldn't get an unlock on it.
kennyx13 said:
how were you able to get an unlock for the device? i got mine today, been on the phone for hours and i couldn't get an unlock on it.
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I picked mine up last week. Being from Canada, I put my Telus SIM in it and it seems to be working. However, I get an annoying notification message saying "Non-Verizon SIM" that won't go away.
Related
Latest News - Oct 9th 2013 - Clove, who specialise in sim-free/unlocked phones have suggested
that the Russian unlocking service at:
http://puman.ru/?selectlanguage=English
may be a solution for those concerned about the regional lock.
More info in the Clove blog at:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/09/25/samsung-galaxy-note-3-sim-limitations/
Whether or not the Note 3 Verizon (US) "Developer Edition" will be regionally locked remains to be seen,
At least the bootloader will, according to reports, be unlocked.
More skimpy details at the Samsung/Verizon page at: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW
More Recent News - Oct 6th 2013 - Chainfire appears to have created an app to
get round region locking for the Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 (MI7 firmware) and rooted
You can buy Chainfire a beer (£1.99) by downloading the app from the Play Store at:
http://pkg.to/eu.chainfire.regionlockaway
There is also a thread started by Chainfire at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46187852 where meanies(!) can download it free.
Recent News (01:30 Oct 3rd 2013)
Android Authority: Galaxy Note 3 region lock is an issue after all, Android 4.4 update may lock older Galaxy handsets http://goo.gl/KjgVwc
Previous news (1st Oct 2013)
A significant number of users still claim they can't use "out of region" sims despite having first used a sim for the region the Note 3 was intended for which is the way Samsung have said is the way to 'unlock' the regional sim lock.
A number of users in this thread who found their Note3 was still region locked despite following the Samsung advice have successfully unlocked their Note3 regional lock using a Russian unlocking web site at http://puman.ru/ Although I am the OP of this thread, I do not have an out of region Sim to test this out myself - so no guarantees but read the posts!
Pics say it all. The Note 3 "unlocked" models are still locked to regions like DVD's and thus not very attractive to globetrotters or international purchasers who are being asked to pay £600 or so for a crippled device.
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Pic says it all. Will not work with USA, Australia etc. sim cards either of course.
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That better not be the case, mine will be delivered today and i'm in the U.S. next week. If it doesn't work out there like my Note 2 does, it's going straight back.
It will only accept European sim cards. As long as your UK mobile opeator has a roaming arrangement with a US carrier, you will still be able to use the phone but you won't have the option of using a sim card from Verizon, Sprint etc.
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I thought i was right to cancell my order from negrielectronics and order from clove.co.uk and it just feels stupid to be informed about this today.
I cancelled my order from clove and they sent an email for refund... no more ordering from uk or europe.
htc6500uk said:
It will only accept European sim cards. As long as your UK mobile opeator has a roaming arrangement with a US carrier, you will still be able to use the phone but you won't have the option of using a sim card from Verizon, Sprint etc.
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i'm using a sim from https://www.ulyssemobile.com/UK/index.php once i get into the states so i guess i better find out if its going to work.
Such a surprise restriction..... I'm waiting for the bad news from handtec.
I wonder what will happen to the Australian sites selling imported note 3's.
beasty54 said:
i'm using a sim from https://www.ulyssemobile.com/UK/index.php once i get into the states so i guess i better find out if its going to work.
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Will be interested to hear how you get on. Please report back!
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I am waiting for Handtec to fully refund me, already requested for a refund, this is really foolish of Samsung....
Guess I have to wait for australian stock.
Koguchi9 said:
Such a surprise restriction..... I'm waiting for the bad news from handtec.
I wonder what will happen to the Australian sites selling imported note 3's.
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I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before. All we used to have to worry aboit were the radio GSM/3G/4G/LTE bands.
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I think this is an absolute disgrace to be honest, why have an unlocked, tri-band phone that wont work when you go on holiday unless you pay the absolutely disgusting roaming prices that UK networks charge?? I'm so annoyed about this, who the hell are Samsung to decide that i cant put a U.S. sim in a phone I've paid over £600 for
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I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before. All we used to have to worry aboit were the radio GSM/3G/4G/LTE bands.
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Logically its all bluff, but im thinking of a way if they could actually do that. I mean restricting the phone not accepting any carrier unless its from europe region that means samsung have full access on europe database or certain information that they could use it on their software.
99% the restriction is being applied from the software side and 99% the pro devs on here will find a way to remove that restriction. But even though ive canceled my order and just called them to confirm my cancellation. Many negative feedbacks will follow up very soon.
I wonder why, I do remember reading an article stating Samsung wanted to stop retailers selling a German device in the UK for example.
For those affected, hopefully something simple could be found to alleviate the problem, like flashing a modem from the respective country perhaps (yeah I know, wishful thinking haha).
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I am really angry about this. This is a BUSINESS phone, so many business users would have a local sim to EACH country they visit!!!
I travel to the USA a lot and always use a local SIM there, which saves thousands! Now I cannot do this?!?!?!
If I cannot unlock this "unlocked/sim-free" phone, then this is certainly the LAST Samsung I will ever buy.
Luckily got mine from O2 didnt get any such warning on box. Requested unlock code will be issed next few days.
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I believe it would just be a software restriction based on the IMSI of the SIM card inserted.
I posted about this awhile back and saw the image on this thread confirmed it. Clove.co.uk were the first to post the announcement about the restriction and it truly is a disaster for Samsung to do such a thing with the Note 3. There currently is no law Europe demanding such action so really does question their reasoning for this.
I have already contacted Samsung and I'm awaiting any comments regarding this.
I will update here and my article http://geektech.ie/index.php/europe...ote-3-reported-to-not-work-outside-of-europe/
My note 3 has just shown up, big sim restriction sticker included. Do you guys think its worth keeping the phone and waiting for a software fix to the restriction or should i send it back? I'm just annoyed about that i'm in the U.S. next week and i wont be able to use the £40 sim card i've ordered because its american. I'll also be in the U.S. again next year so while it may only be a small issue, its still an issue. Worst case scenario is that i get the girlfriend to take her iphone and put the sim card in that so i can tether.
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My note 3 has just shown up, big sim restriction sticker included. Do you guys think its worth keeping the phone and waiting for a software fix to the restriction or should i send it back? I'm just annoyed about that i'm in the U.S. next week and i wont be able to use the £40 sim card i've ordered because its american. I'll also be in the U.S. again next year so while it may only be a small issue, its still an issue. Worst case scenario is that i get the girlfriend to take her iphone and put the sim card in that so i can tether.
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Id say return it to show them we are not abide by their rules and restrictions that's totally a ripoff.
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I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before.
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I'm one of them.
The E.U. wants to eliminate the roaming cost for.all countries across. Maybe has to do with that. Nobody with Note 3 here with a foreign sim card ( non Eu) can try to see what's happening?
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I was curious if anyone knows if Sprints Nexus is sim locked or not? I know it's the exact same phone as the Play Store edition but I just can't find out if it's sim locked or not. Thanks.
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Are you paying full price?
If you are subsidize by Sprint, then maybe it's lock. But if you pay full price, then you are overpaying but it should be unlock.
musclehead84 said:
I was curious if anyone knows if Sprints Nexus is sim locked or not? I know it's the exact same phone as the Play Store edition but I just can't find out if it's sim locked or not. Thanks.
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I asked my local sprint store while getting my sim card for the googleplay store one I just received. Guys said they have NEVER sold an unlocked phone that you could take to another carrier and he did not see why they would start now.
so... who really knows. You know how those in store sales people are, just simply not informed most of the time.
someone0 said:
Are you paying full price?
If you are subsidize by Sprint, then maybe it's lock. But if you pay full price, then you are overpaying but it should be unlock.
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I'm getting the phone for 50 bucks from Sprint. Just curious if it's sim locked.
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I asked my local sprint store while getting my sim card for the googleplay store one I just received. Guys said they have NEVER sold an unlocked phone that you could take to another carrier and he did not see why they would start now.
so... who really knows. You know how those in store sales people are, just simply not informed most of the time.
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How much did they charge you for a Sim? They told me $75.. Which is insane, I used my S4 Sim card. But now I still need one for the S4 so I can sell it.
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deltawye said:
How much did they charge you for a Sim? They told me $75.. Which is insane, I used my S4 Sim card. But now I still need one for the S4 so I can sell it.
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Wow. what a joke. They gave it to me free of charge, same as if you use the chat-with-sprint method of getting a SIM
Also want to know if I can pop a T-Mobile SIM into a "Sprint" Nexus 5
It shouldn't be locked. I got mine from Google play though. The Sim should be free from what I know. I got mines from the best buy store because nobody at sprint store had any clue a couple of days ago
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How much did they charge you for a Sim? They told me $75..
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HUH? Sprint wanted to charge you for the SIM??? Was it a corporate sprint store? or just a kiosk or an affiliate type of store?
Assuming you are a Sprint customer, Corporate Sprint store should not charge you for the SIM, and if they do, you can call customer care and ask them to sort it out.
I got mine shipped from Sprint Worldwide support - but it was too slow - took 5 days, and I was getting impatient, so I went to a Sprint Corporate store nearby and asked them for one - they gave me one free of charge (they kept telling me - "we don't have one for the Nexus yet" - and I reminded them that the ones for the S4 or the HTC One would work just fine)
just letting everyone know. The Google Play version; and the version from the Sprint store are UNLOCKED!
Went and picked one up from Sprint today.
Logged into my Sprint Account;
and I see this:
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Now I just need to figure out how to get my damn MSL code. getprop ril.MSL doesnt work. and no MSL listed in getprop
MSL is needed to enable Tri-Band LTE
krylon360 said:
just letting everyone know. The Google Play version; and the version from the Sprint store are UNLOCKED!
Went and picked one up from Sprint today.
Logged into my Sprint Account;
and I see this:
Now I just need to figure out how to get my damn MSL code. getprop ril.MSL doesnt work. and no MSL listed in getprop
MSL is needed to enable Tri-Band LTE
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So what carrier are you using that proves that the "Sprint" version is unlocked? I want to use it with T-Mobile.
I just got the sprint version from Best Buy. I am on T-Mobile and can verify that it is 100% unlocked. Popped my sim in and good to go. Also, the phone came with a sprint sim card. If anyone is being charged for one, I WILL SEND IT TO YOU FOR FREE!
lowandbehold said:
I just got the sprint version from Best Buy. I am on T-Mobile and can verify that it is 100% unlocked. Popped my sim in and good to go. Also, the phone came with a sprint sim card. If anyone is being charged for one, I WILL SEND IT TO YOU FOR FREE!
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Awesome that definately answers that question. Thanks again.
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lowandbehold said:
I just got the sprint version from Best Buy. I am on T-Mobile and can verify that it is 100% unlocked. Popped my sim in and good to go. Also, the phone came with a sprint sim card. If anyone is being charged for one, I WILL SEND IT TO YOU FOR FREE!
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So what/who gave you the hint that sprint subsidized ver was unlock? I guess you just went in and ask the rep there to give you a sprint subsidized N5 or did you buy an unsubsidized sprint N5? If you bought an unsubsidized sprint N5 then it should be unlocked anyway.
krylon360 said:
just letting everyone know. The Google Play version; and the version from the Sprint store are UNLOCKED!
Went and picked one up from Sprint today.
Logged into my Sprint Account;
and I see this:
Now I just need to figure out how to get my damn MSL code. getprop ril.MSL doesnt work. and no MSL listed in getprop
MSL is needed to enable Tri-Band LTE
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Their chat support will give you your MSL. Just ask for the 'Activation code.' If they try to avoid and just tell you to run *#*#72786#*#*, be firm but polite about getting the code.
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Their chat support will give you your MSL. Just ask for the 'Activation code.' If they try to avoid and just tell you to run *#*#72786#*#*, be firm but polite about getting the code.
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I was able to get them to give me the msl on first try. Told them i need it to enable triband for spark. If one rep gives you problem, just back off and rechat with another one.
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I was able to get them to give me the msl on first try. Told them i need it to enable triband for spark. If one rep gives you problem, just back off and rechat with another one.
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what do i ask for my MSL? or activation code?
wildpig1234 said:
So what/who gave you the hint that sprint subsidized ver was unlock? I guess you just went in and ask the rep there to give you a sprint subsidized N5 or did you buy an unsubsidized sprint N5? If you bought an unsubsidized sprint N5 then it should be unlocked anyway.
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If phones are locked and you pay the full amount, you still need to get the unlock code. I popped my sim in right out of the box. The Sprint version is the exact same phone. Same model number, same build number, same kernel version, got the same 125mb update right at the power on. There is not one bit of Sprint branding or bloatware. I know my phones...this is my 8th smartphone and my 4th Nexus (S, Gnex, N4, N5) and I can assure you that it is the exact same.
I want to try out a tmobile while I'm still activated on spring. Does anyone know if I can just swap the sim or will CDMA voice still be active?
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P.Mobile said:
what do i ask for my MSL? or activation code?
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'Activation code' is their term for MSL. Some techs aren't familiar with 'MSL'. Or simply ask if you can get your Activation code/MSL.
edd247 said:
I want to try out a tmobile while I'm still activated on spring. Does anyone know if I can just swap the sim or will CDMA voice still be active?
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T-Mobile will work just find if you swap the SIM. You may or may not have to go and put in the correct APN settings with the TMo SIM in, though mine works just fine. I've also tested with AIO Wireless.
You may also have to go in to *#*#INFO#*#* and set the radio to 'LTE/GSM auto (PRL)' mode. When going back to Sprint only you'll want to use 'LTE/CDMA auto (PRL)' mode.
on their network? Anyone has an idea or experience? I want to get one and stay with 'non-smart phone' data plan.
Thanks.
Yes they do
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Yes they do
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Thanks. Is this 100% confirmed, or is it a "maybe" situation like it used to be with the International Version of the S2, whereas in some cases they did and others they didn't?
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Thanks. Is this 100% confirmed, or is it a "maybe" situation like it used to be with the International Version of the S2, whereas in some cases they did and others they didn't?
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AIO Wireless is an AT&T MVNO
i tried using their AIO Basic Plan witch is for basic phones only
http://www.aiowireless.com/shop.html
i could call and text but data was disabled.
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AIO Wireless is an AT&T MVNO
i tried using their AIO Basic Plan witch is for basic phones only
http://www.aiowireless.com/shop.html
i could call and text but data was disabled.
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I am referring to using an AT&T sim on AT&T account, not MVNO.
What people used to do was get a non-smart phone data plan, unlimited for $10/mo, then change to smart phone. Different reports came of AT&T identifying these non-AT&T phones as smart phones, vs. other cases where AT&T did not identify the non-AT&T phone as a smart phone. So I was just wondering about the Nexus 5 since AT&T doesn't carry it and doesn't sell it.
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I am referring to using an AT&T sim on AT&T account, not MVNO.
What people used to do was get a non-smart phone data plan, unlimited for $10/mo, then change to smart phone. Different reports came of AT&T identifying these non-AT&T phones as smart phones, vs. other cases where AT&T did not identify the non-AT&T phone as a smart phone. So I was just wondering about the Nexus 5 since AT&T doesn't carry it and doesn't sell it.
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All AT&T MVNO share like a IMEI database sort of how T-Mobile shares their blacklisted IMEI with AT&T
if a AT&T MVNO blocks it so does AT&T they share the database on witch to block.. it doesn't hurt to try though
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All AT&T MVNO share like a IMEI database sort of how T-Mobile shares their blacklisted IMEI with AT&T
if a AT&T MVNO blocks it so does AT&T they share the database on witch to block.. it doesn't hurt to try though
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You lost me. Why would MVNO block a phone? Say I buy a Nexus 5 from Google, can I not use it with StraightTalk for example? Why would it be blocked?
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You lost me. Why would MVNO block a phone? Say I buy a Nexus 5 from Google, can I not use it with StraightTalk for example? Why would it be blocked?
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He is just saying it as an example. Someone reports the phone as lost or stolen, it can be blacklisted across carrier.
Back to your original question, yes you will be detected as a smart phone. Google/LG shares imei database with att. Just like nexus 4 and gnex.
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He is just saying it as an example. Someone reports the phone as lost or stolen, it can be blacklisted across carrier.
Back to your original question, yes you will be detected as a smart phone. Google/LG shares imei database with att. Just like nexus 4 and gnex.
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Thanks.
Do you know if other manufacturers share IMEI DB, like Samsung?
The AIO thing is different I think in that data is blocked not because you are on a smartphone but it's blocked on that plan.
AT&T can easily identify said phones as a Nexus as they share a similar IMEI. I don't know if LG/Samsung send AT&T a list of their IMEIs but either way it's not hard for AT&T to add it to their list based on just 1 sample.
shotta35 said:
The AIO thing is different I think in that data is blocked not because you are on a smartphone but it's blocked on that plan.
AT&T can easily identify said phones as a Nexus as they share a similar IMEI. I don't know if LG/Samsung send AT&T a list of their IMEIs but either way it's not hard for AT&T to add it to their list based on just 1 sample.
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Pardon the ignorance, but what is AIO?
The basis for my question is, and the example that I brought earlier, the same phone but different model; Galaxy S2 has its international unlocked version, but also AT&T sells its own version of S2. This is not the case with the Nexus - it only comes unlocked, AT&T does not sell the Nexus, this is why I am questioning this.
Thanks.
I have AIO and it works flawlessly. Just gotta manually put in your APN just like with any other carrier and an unlocked GSM phone.
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Pardon the ignorance, but what is AIO?
The basis for my question is, and the example that I brought earlier, the same phone but different model; Galaxy S2 has its international unlocked version, but also AT&T sells its own version of S2. This is not the case with the Nexus - it only comes unlocked, AT&T does not sell the Nexus, this is why I am questioning this.
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Aio is a pre-paid wireless carrier which is wholly owned and operated by AT&T. It uses AT&T personnel, networks, towers, etc...
Landara said:
I have AIO and it works flawlessly. Just gotta manually put in your APN just like with any other carrier and an unlocked GSM phone.
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Aio is a pre-paid wireless carrier which is wholly owned and operated by AT&T. It uses AT&T personnel, networks, towers, etc...
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OK, but I am not talking about AIO or MVNO, I am talking about an AT&T sim card on an AT&T family plan (outside contract). You have a 'dumb' phone on your family plan, you add non smart-phone data for $10. You take the sim and put it in a smart phone that was not purchased from AT&T, is not AT&T phone and AT&T doesn't even sell it (e.g. Nexus 5). Will AT&T network - again, I am on AT&T, not AIO - identify it as a smart phone. Looking to hear from people with experience on this. With my personal experience they did not identify other phones in similar situation, even phones that they sell. I am just curious about the Nexus 5 in particular.
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OK, but I am not talking about AIO or MVNO, I am talking about an AT&T sim card on an AT&T family plan (outside contract). You have a 'dumb' phone on your family plan, you add non smart-phone data for $10. You take the sim and put it in a smart phone that was not purchased from AT&T, is not AT&T phone and AT&T doesn't even sell it (e.g. Nexus 5). Will AT&T network - again, I am on AT&T, not AIO - identify it as a smart phone. Looking to hear from people with experience on this. With my personal experience they did not identify other phones in similar situation, even phones that they sell. I am just curious about the Nexus 5 in particular.
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They will identify it.. How can a billion dollar company not spot this.. of course they would identify it and try squeeze more money from you
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How can a billion dollar company not spot this..
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Because they don't always identify it...it's a fact.
See third and last post
http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Discussion-and-Support/Nexus-5-on-Att/td-p/3840723#.Ur43I_RDuSo
The Nexus 5 is a huge device and they will pick it up
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Because they don't always identify it...it's a fact.
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Even if they don't pick it up, eventually you will get blocked and they will tell you to upgrade your plan
Edit: XDA isn't the place to ask this question not that many people have that plan you want try Howardforums
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Like what I said about aio. Its at&ts network just different name brand they control it and boom same effect.
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My wife originally had the nexus 4 on the non-smartphone data plan on att and was never detected. I just upgraded her to the nexus 5 and now they automatically added a data plan for her I was looking at my account and it is not registering as any type of phone yet though.
Might be a lame question, but want to make sure I don't get burned before I buy this. Found a craigslist post for an almost brand new Nexus 5, apparently from Tmobile. Here is the title "GOOGLE NEXUS 5 BY LG T-MOBILE 16GB"
Will I be able to use this Straight Talk? Could this somehow be locked to Tmobile under contract? That is my only concern.
Thanks for any help
Yes. Although you'll need to buy the right one for your country (D820 for North America, D821 for everywhere else)
So far, no Nexus 5's have come locked so it looks like they're all unlocked.
Some older Nexus' did turn up locked though, but so far no one has seen a locked N5 so the assumption that all N5's are unlocked is a safe one.
So I picked up a N5, 16GB black with box, no charger which is no big deal for $260. I get back to work and the phone isn't wiped, lots of d**k pics. I can't believe some people.
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So I picked up a N5, 16GB black with box, no charger which is no big deal for $260. I get back to work and the phone isn't wiped, lots of d**k pics. I can't believe some people.
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Some would say you got your moneys worth. :laugh:
So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
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So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
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make sure u have the right apns?
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So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
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Phone could be blacklisted and stolen which would explain no charger or box.
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make sure u have the right apns?
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This. Make sure you check APN settings otherwise you won't get any data
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Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
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Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
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i was about to get N5 off craigslist lol im glad i seen this ill just pay full price
I have one that is clean and barely used if you are still interested. Woman switched to the iPhone 5s today. Inbox me if you are interested.
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Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
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Do you have any info of the person you bought if from. I always try to get a license plate of their vehicle just in case.
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You are screwed if the guy you bought it from isn't the original owner, that could be the reason why it wasn't wiped.
From what I hear the only way to get it delisted is to have the original owner, the one that reported it stolen call in. If he is the guy that you bought it from have the police make him call T-Mobile or give you a refund.
THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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I'm pretty sure the north American one has more frequencies. Wikipedia is a good place to look.
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THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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Most information on Bands for the D820 is taken from google's info, which I'm sure you won't believe but is actually not accurate. The maximum LTE bands the WTR1605L included in the MSM8794 of the snapdragon 800 is 7, which is actually the most any chip today can do - BUT teh google site and many other sites list 9 bands - which isn't quite right.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131705
The D821 does:
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
The D820 is reported to do:
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
However, looking at the box of the N5, you'll only see 7 listed:
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If T-Mobile works well in your area and your not in a contact use straight talk
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Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.
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Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.
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I believe Sprint merged with T-mobile and all branded phones will be T-mobile but to answer your question, yes you will be able to use tmobile and unlocked version on the sprint network.
I know they merged, but you can't use tmobile phones on a sprint account yet. Which is why i was asking.
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I know they merged, but you can't use tmobile phones on a sprint account yet. Which is why i was asking.
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From my experience, I've had a tmobile branded note 10 plus on the sprint network for 8 months. This is how I know but you can do your own research.
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Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.
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I had the same thought as I have Sprint. I pre-ordered the unlocked version.
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From my experience, I've had a tmobile branded note 10 plus on the sprint network for 8 months. This is how I know but you can do your own research.
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Awesome, everything works as it should?
Wondering Same thing
I was wondering the same thng because im on sprint and with the surface duo you need a tmobile sim card to use that phone. On Bestbuy website it says Sprint Version coming soon.
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On Best Buy it shows unlocked can be activated for ATT, Verizon, and Sprint.
I had a Sprint account but ordered the T-Mobile version thinking they were connected -- but they're not yet. After 22 years with Sprint, I decided to move to T-Mobile and now I have 5G service (don't think Sprint itself does yet until they merge the networks) and my Spring phone number transferred in about 10 minutes. I'm not looking back.
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I had the same thought as I have Sprint. I pre-ordered the unlocked version.
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I received my unlocked Z Fold 2 from Samsung, picked up a 4 pack of sim cards from the Sprint store, which I was told included the one I needed. Couldn't activate it online. Called Sprint, gave them my IMEI and was told it could not be activated on the Sprint network. They are sending me another sim card, but couldn't guarantee it would work. Curious how this is possible.
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I received my unlocked Z Fold 2 from Samsung, picked up a 4 pack of sim cards from the Sprint store, which I was told included the one I needed. Couldn't activate it online. Called Sprint, gave them my IMEI and was told it could not be activated on the Sprint network. They are sending me another sim card, but couldn't guarantee it would work. Curious how this is possible.
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Oh wow. Sorry to hear that. I received my device yesterday. I went into a Sprint/tmobile store this morning and got a SIM/iccid . Phone was activated by a rep. Everything works including the 5G.
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I had the same thought as I have Sprint. I pre-ordered the unlocked version.
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Mingy12 said:
Oh wow. Sorry to hear that. I received my device yesterday. I went into a Sprint/tmobile store this morning and got a SIM/iccid . Phone was activated by a rep. Everything works including the 5G.
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Well, that is encouraging. You ordered your unlocked version from Samsung and the Sprint/tm store was able to get it activated? Thank you for the update...
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Well, that is encouraging. You ordered your unlocked version from Samsung and the Sprint/tm store was able to get it activated? Thank you for the update...
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Yup. I walked in and said i needed a SIM. The guy found the right one and activated it on the spot.
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Yup. I walked in and said i needed a SIM. The guy found the right one and activated it on the spot.
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Brilliant... Thanks again.
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Brilliant... Thanks again.
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Yup. I walked in and said i needed a SIM. The guy found the right one and activated it on the spot.
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I spent an hour at the Sprint/tm store. They tried all 4 sim cards in the pack, called their tech support and still couldn't get it activated on Sprint. When checking the IEMI on the Sprint checker it says clean. They could get it to work with a T-Mobile sim card. Yours is activated on Sprint? Was the sim card used labeled A,B,C or D? Thanks?
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I received my unlocked Z Fold 2 from Samsung, picked up a 4 pack of sim cards from the Sprint store, which I was told included the one I needed. Couldn't activate it online. Called Sprint, gave them my IMEI and was told it could not be activated on the Sprint network. They are sending me another sim card, but couldn't guarantee it would work. Curious how this is possible.
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Once when I called and gave them the IMEI number, he said he couldn't find it. Since it's so new -- and even released earlier than expected, he thought it wasn't in the database yet.
He told me he'd look into getting it added and would call me back the next day, but never did. Bye, Sprint.
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Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.
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In case anyone is still wondering. Yes. You will need the Sprint sim card ending in 416TQ. It does not however come in the Sprint 4-1 sim kit. Finally, got one from Best Buy after dealing with Sprint directly for a week.
Ordered online from Best Buy. Already had SIM in it. Had to chat with Sprint to get it activated, but works great.