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I decided to write this review to warn others from dealing with paypal, they have charged me before completing the registration process, and after charging me they have asked for me to fax them extra documents that I don't have, I told them that I don't have that documents, and I asked them to find an alternative way, they replied stupidly asking the same question, I called them and wasted my money on international calls, every one of their rude employees gave me different answers. at the end I asked them to close my account, they refused, they said that the cannot close the account neither they can activate it if I don't send them the faxed papers. Simply they are either stupid or they were stealing me. I still couldn’t get my money back, but I had to cancel my credit card because they had a continuous access on it, and that cost me allot also. There should be a law to watch such companies...
You watch your money, and don't trust those companies that call themselves as a company for your own security; it is a company that will have a full access to your credit card... I lost much with my registration trial with Paypal (www.paypal.com) be careful from this company.
Not my experience. I had to fax them papers on my credit card, if I remember correctly. But that wasn't a problem after that. I think it was a bank statement. I use PayPal almost every week to buy from eBay.
perhaps its because you live in what is considered quite a dodgy country by many others?
all ive had to do with paypal, and ive been using them for years, is enter my card and bank details online, they performed a chargeback on my account of $1 and i had to enter the reference that showed on my bank statement
Paypal has always worked very well for me. From what I remember, I gave them my bank account information and then they made three small deposits. To verify, I had to let them know the amounts of those three deposits. Now, 100's of transactions later, I am a veteran and still highly satisfied. Sorry you had an unfavorable experience.
Ok... Maybe you had some good experience there, but I advice you all to have a look on this site (www.nopaypal.com) and also you may search Google for other peoples reviews on this issue... in the site I gave here, you will find too many stories that are simillar to mine..
they also say that with paypal things goes fine until you face a small silly problem, then you start to suffer, one of them says, that he sold an item for a specific amount of money and after he recieved the payment to paypal they have limited his account and he cannot get him money from them until now !!
read and see how they deal with people,
if you think that they read those fax papers then you are mistaken, someone says that he faked the papers and faxed them and things went fine, where is the security in that? you can steal a card number and fake the fax paper, the more secure way was the $1.95 decuction and verifying it by the 4 pin number, I did that but they didn't satisfy with it, they are like machines, they Don't have minds to use and think, when I be honest with them and tell them that I don't have such a paper, they reply saying: "we are still waiting for the fax" like robots....
the main problem there is that they are not trained to handle problems, when you have a problem then you are stuck there....
one more important issue that i have mentioned: how come they have charged me before verifying my card, they claim that they limited my account because they cannot verify my account, then what if I stole that card, why did they charge the real owner then? they should have asked for all of the papers they needed then they could start charging, that is really silly, common people search google and have a look on www.nopaypal.com, there are books talking about paypal's cheating, you can read everyday a new story there... if you had a good experience with them then this is not meaning that they are good, it is just you are lucky that you didn't face any problem yet!
Okay, let's get real here.
What documents would they ask for that a card owner wouldn't have? Why don't you have the documents?
The domain name, NoPaypal.com, was registered back in 2001 in order to drum up support for a class action lawsuit. Yep, that person had a bad experience when Paypal was new. The "Bash Paypal Bandwagon" was in full force several years ago. You are a little late.
If I stopped using every service/vendor that someone had a bad experience with, I'd have to stop using everything.
If I go to a restaurant that sucks, I don't go back. Don't run around like chicken little yelling "the sky is falling".
they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name, so this is realistic, if you don't like to believe that they are theievs then you are free, keep dealing with them , everyone is free in this life, I just liked to warn the other people and give an advice, so take my advice or leave it, but don't regret later!!
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they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name
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so you have a bank in a country were you dont live, no way you can confirm your current and previous addresses and you are complaining that paypal wont deal with you!!!!!
good! im glad paypal wont deal with you, if you were to rip me off, what could i do about it? i couldnt find out where you live or where you bank.
wake up, smell the coffee, get yourself a bank and a real address that you own and pay your way in, then maybe, just maybe youll have some financial credibility
jeesh!
dont tell me... you are nigerian and you have $1 200 419 that you need to invest, but your governmnt charges too much tax.........................
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you people thing yourself something?? huh..
work your mind a little bit, I dont have to give you all the details, dump yourself and deal whoever you like to, I just wrote my experience, and as I said before you are free to get the advice or leave it,
are you working for paypal guys? you appear to be from UK? by the way I am not nigerean and I do not care about you or the companies in your country, if you want to realy talk about ropping people, then read carefully my story and see how paypal took the money before even getting the fax, then what if really I was ropping someone's card? why did they charge him before getting sure? I was ropped by paypal and didn't get my money back yet.... maybe you cannot think wide.. it is your problem, that is why in your country we always hear such stories, but thanks God we don't have much like those stories from local companies, you even didn't use your mind to look at the flag near my name and your wide imagination lead you to nigeria, cool
for your information, my bank is now handling the case with this stupid paypal company, I respect my bank and I am very happy of their fast reaction against what paypal did, I wont be posting any further details about this topic in this forum cuz it looks like the people here are to fight not to get advices and advice others, you could have read it and either propose me a solution for my problem like someone who did in other forum, or you could just close that page, but you prefer to defend paypal, they probably from your way of defending, you are one of them !
Good luck for the good people..
the reference to nigeria was a joke, the clue was in the monetary amount, for someone so concerned about scams, im surprised youve never heard of the "nigerian 419" scam
google it
btw, i know what country your flag is from, i said as much in my first reply when i politely commented on the fact that many businesses in the world may not trust doing business with people from that country, hence the requests for additional verification of who you are.
the fact that you bank in another country and have no id relating to where you live really makes it of no surprise that they dont want to deal with you.
they charged US$1.95....... not exactly fraud of the century is it?
after sending one item paypal says..international shipment
We are sorry for the delay in transferring the money that was paid by Katrina Baral into your PayPal account. We hereby inform you that the money that we are ordered to transfer into your PayPal account (€180.00 EUR) is too Small for us to transfer into your PayPal account due to International Transfer Limit from our PayPal Transfer Department Unit and the new Policy of our PayPal. So the real amount that can reach your account from our PayPal Transfer Desk start from €400.00 EUR upward. we contacted Katrina Baral about this situation to make an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account.
We are happy to tell you that Katrina Baral have made an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account which is already deducted from the buyer account. It's already confirmed and approved by us which means the total amount of €400.00 EUR is approved and it is ready to be credited into your PayPal account TODAY. So we think we can sort the problem out by you sending the Excess Fund. Katrina Baral ask us to tell you to help him send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and use the extra €20.00 EUR for the western union charges and for your transportation.
You are advised now to go to any western union Outlet/Office and send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and get back to us with the western union details so we can verify and get your account credited without any further delay.
I think this is terrible, check this out....
http://cgi.ebay.com/UNLOCK-Qtek-910...2QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43312QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
OMG That is just hillarious. Cant wait to see what Faria does lol
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What!!!!!!!!!
M?$%#r Fkr.
he is actually selling this stuff for 20 bucks????? i just cant even believe it!!!
This person now says the item location is in Amsterdam, same clown tho!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220123411063
Everyone sending ebay nice little letters? I did
Well...while I disagree with the sellers from an ethical view, the only thing they are doing illegal is using Faria's name as long as they purchase a legal license for Widnows Mobile 6 (if that's possible?). There are other ads selling this for up to $80 so far and they don't mention and rom cooker by name.
Very VERY unethical though...
Fraud On Ebay
There is so much illegal and unethical about this it makes me sick!!!!!!!!
ExploreMN said:
Well...while I disagree with the sellers from an ethical view, the only thing they are doing illegal is using Faria's name as long as they purchase a legal license for Widnows Mobile 6 (if that's possible?). There are other ads selling this for up to $80 so far and they don't mention and rom cooker by name.
Very VERY unethical though...
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damn you found my auctions
dude copied the wiki
this is almost comical...what an idiot
I really hate it when somebody steals my ideas.........
I'll do it for 15, But I will install ANTC latest........
Sorry ANTC couldn't resist, but still love u.
And the PIG has more for sale
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIMP-T-MOBILE-M...ryZ43312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
What is funny is that a couple of months ago i got a message ont his board for support for NTS vanilla that came on the guys phone when he bought it on ebay. He tried to tell me that I had to support him. I told him I didnt and he never replied. LOL.
Edited out for personal reasons. I don't want a future plea for help to be ignored ... "Oh it's that guy that stuck up for the eBay @$$h0!e. I ain't helping him!!!".
On that Pimp TMobile one on ebay this is an actual quote...
"It frustrates me that technology it held back by the greed inherrant in consumerism and so I release application..."
The only one that is greedy in my mind is him...Much thanks goes out to all of the rom cookers here and other helpers. I have a WM6 device and generally know what to do if something happens now. Again thank you to you all that are not like this individual....
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damn you found my auctions
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ROFL omg.
i thought you are serious for a while.
AFAIK This guy is doing nothing illegal (apart from referencing to Faria).
It IS unethical yes.
But arent there allways cheap bastards around like this one. For a lot of phones the unlock s/w is 'free', but still numerous people sell it as a service and charge up to 20 euro for it.
They make money using the knowledge of others (of which a lot are the active members on this forum) AND they mis-use the lack of knowledge a lot of phone owners simply have.
I would say 'ban him from ebay' goes a bit far, but cant we simply take him out of business by just starting another auction with reference to the right threads and not charge at all?? That WILL teach him.
i will vote yes ;P
The worst part...he is making money off the hard work of people on this forum.
I saw one auction had 5 bids and was near $80.00
I mean seriously...using upgrade discounts you can almost buy a whole new phone for that price.
So it makes one wonder...who is the bigger idiot. The guy selling the labor of others, or the people who buy it?
This, my friends, is how Bill Gates became Bill Gates.
Hello
I am trying to sell my Captivate on Ebay. I have had 4 different people - all located in the Ukraine inquire about the phone. Noone else from anywhere has asked about it.
Is there something about the Captivate and Ukraine?
Maybe it's one person with multiple accounts, or some of her/his friends.
Doesn't matter where they are from as long as they pay, and do NOT ship the phone until you have the money in your hands.
Phones are hard to get over seas and can be resold for 10x what they pay for it
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Use paypal for take the payment. And just ship after check that you have the money in your account.
Be cautious. I've had people try to scam me when I sold my Archos 101. They offered $100 more than what I was selling it for, but the catch is they wanted me to send the Archos to his cousin(who was also out of state).It just didn't seem right . Also have a friend that dealt with a buyer from another country. The check or whatever they sent him ended up costing him money somehow. So I only deal with local buyers. Just my 2 cents
Thanks for the tips guys
I wouldnt do it! I would never buy over seas and if you sold i would go thre PayPal for sure and dont send till money in hand. Good luck!
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maybe they heard about UnBrickable Mod and want a Captivate to develop with....
Darkuso said:
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Use paypal for take the payment. And just ship after check that you have the money in your account.
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Keep in mind that PayPal will freeze your *entire* account for the duration if the buyer files a dispute.... you better be able to PROVE s/he got the phone beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just fyi.
I'll buy it
I'm in nigeria....
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Keep in mind that PayPal will freeze your *entire* account for the duration if the buyer files a dispute.... you better be able to PROVE s/he got the phone beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just fyi.
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Ebay have a buyer/seller protection system, in that case they have to prove that he didnt sent the phone or isnt as was in the description. And if the buyer want the money back have to ship back to the seller. You can read about it in the ebay security center, i bought my phone in ebay, took a week to get from US to Venezuela.
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Doesn't matter where they are from as long as they pay, and do NOT ship the phone until you have the money in your hands.
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+1 ship only on correct payment, not 1000 donkeys in exchange for your hard earned £50.00
just make sure it is on your terms i.e pay pall and quote for insured shipping. simples
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+1 ship only on correct payment, not 1000 donkeys in exchange for your hard earned £50.00
just make sure it is on your terms i.e pay pall and quote for insured shipping. simples
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1000 donkeys! Hahahahahaha lmao.
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As long as you get the money, who cares?
Sold an iPhone on eBay to a guy in Ukraine. The tracking system showed that it never arrived and he got his money back through PayPal. I was out an iPhone, eBay's fees, and the cost of shipping.
My local PO told me they hear things like that all the time about Ukraine. The postal system is apparently awful there.
Edit: Just because you get the money doesn't put you in the clear, PayPal put negative balance on my account and called me everyday after the dispute threatening to turn me over to collections if I didn't pay them back.
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also require them to buy insurance, that will protect u and the buyer if the package supposedly never arrives
not worth the hassle or risk you should have no problem selling to a buyer in US or Canada both of which tend to be safer than say Nigeria or Ukraine.
Good point on the insurance. So in case it does get "lost", my money won't be completely lost.
Just in case anyone doesn't know the check scam. The way it works is they send you a check for the product. It looks legit, even your bank will think its real. Banks will normally put the money into your account within 1-3 days if the amount of the check is below a certain amount. They do this before the check ever clears with the bank listed on the check (many times its an overseas bank so it takes even longer to clear). So what happens is that you get your money, ship the product, and then a couple weeks later the bank calls you up and says you owe them that money back because the check bounced. Or worse yet, the bank deducts it directly from your account, which happens, and you get overdrawn. Now you also owe overdraft fees. Problem is you cant hold on to the product for the length of time it takes for the check to fully clear, many times its 2-4 weeks.
So lesson is use paypal, cash, or even western union. No checks ever. There are plenty of scams out there but this one is one of the easiest for people to pull off.
Hello all XDA please sign this petition if u are from USA
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-rental-application-fees/qs7v8jLP
Everyone here knows if ur trying to rent a place how bad and annoying this crap is lets stop these greedy landlords from pocketing everyone application fee. its 20$ here 10$ there 15$ here it adds and u lost out on a lot of money.
its already hard enough to rent as it is with the first months rent and deposit and then they try this you can have a full time job work hard but they will deny your app and pocket your fee even if u have a full time job and are more then able to pay the rent they will just go by credit score its bs and needs to stop
please sign and share this if anyone knows how i can better word it with grammer and everything please let me know
Mahalo
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no talking about IMEI changing period.
unlock pros
Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
mazinger4 said:
Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
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i´m on the same boat, i sent a unit to get imei repareid but nobody respond about my order, the tech guy talks horrible when you try to communicate thru remote service terminal, but i´m so worried i think i lost my unit and 70 US, be aware about this people, we have to do something.
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i´m on the same boat, i sent a unit to get imei repareid but nobody respond about my order, the tech guy talks horrible when you try to communicate thru remote service terminal, but i´m so worried i think i lost my unit and 70 US, be aware about this people, we have to do something.
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The same thing happen to me...I was told I had to send my phone in and its been well over a month and i had not received my phone or are they returning my call or email......Do not do any business with them....
Ouch, this thread caught my attention. Thanks for sharing with us.
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The Unlock Pros = The Scam Pros
They've done the same thing to me. They got me to send my $900 phone in for IMEI repair after they've screwed it up remotely. They use a UPS Store mailbox as shipping address.
Once they got the phone they started ignoring my emails and phone calls. When I finally got someone with the username "Scott" one their website live chat, he was rude first and later mocked me, called me stupid, dumb and all the f words for asking about my phone.
Never do business with these guys. They are thieves and they continue to steal phones because they assume people won't waste their time and money to sue them for stealing their cell phones. At least that's what the Scott guy told me after insulting me online. Also they think or assume your phone is stolen so you won't do anything if they steal from you.
They do provide the remote unlock and IMEI repair but this is just their way to make their business look legitimate. In reality the look for opportunities to have you ship your phone in. For example they will intentionally screw up the phone then as you to ship it in.
By the way, they will show you a mail label to make you think that they'll ship your phone back to you soon. This is just a trick, Kiss your phone goodbye if you've made the mistake like me to ship your phone to these scammer.
Just so you know(no offense) but to unblacklist means to hack into the phones database. And I feel really sorry for you. Hope you get your money back.
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mazinger4 said:
Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
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chaoshunter said:
Just so you know(no offense) but to unblacklist means to hack into the phones database. And I feel really sorry for you. Hope you get your money back.
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Update:
Exactly like this scumbag told me, Paypal will not refund intangible goods. This pos "merchant ' had bragged to me about that & told me I'd never get my money back.
Paypal did refuse, at first... but they changed their minds after I sent 'em the tape of the guy they gave my money too threatening me and my kids.... (Thank goodness fro rooted phones!) I may have also mentioned that I would report them (paypal) to the Office of the Inspector General for aiding in interstate criminal this and that, extortion, etc etc.
The next day, I got an email saying Paypal had refunded my money from Paypal funds.
They did not take my money back from the Unlock Pros AFIK. The Unlock Pros is one scumbag ripoff artist using Paypal to do it.
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Update:
Exactly like this scumbag told me, Paypal will not refund intangible goods. This pos "merchant ' had bragged to me about that & told me I'd never get my money back.
Paypal did refuse, at first... but they changed their minds after I sent 'em the tape of the guy they gave my money too threatening me and my kids.... (Thank goodness fro rooted phones!) I may have also mentioned that I would report them (paypal) to the Office of the Inspector General for aiding in interstate criminal this and that, extortion, etc etc.
The next day, I got an email saying Paypal had refunded my money from Paypal funds.
They did not take my money back from the Unlock Pros AFIK. The Unlock Pros is one scumbag ripoff artist using Paypal to do it.
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I hate scammers more then anything. Hope they get what they deserve.
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I am sorry that you got scammed, and glad you got your money back.
But on THIS site we do not discuss anything to do with IMEI changing for any reason, this includes services or hack methods.
Closing this up.