Am I being scammed? - Captivate General

Hello
I am trying to sell my Captivate on Ebay. I have had 4 different people - all located in the Ukraine inquire about the phone. Noone else from anywhere has asked about it.
Is there something about the Captivate and Ukraine?

Maybe it's one person with multiple accounts, or some of her/his friends.

Doesn't matter where they are from as long as they pay, and do NOT ship the phone until you have the money in your hands.

Phones are hard to get over seas and can be resold for 10x what they pay for it
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Use paypal for take the payment. And just ship after check that you have the money in your account.

Be cautious. I've had people try to scam me when I sold my Archos 101. They offered $100 more than what I was selling it for, but the catch is they wanted me to send the Archos to his cousin(who was also out of state).It just didn't seem right . Also have a friend that dealt with a buyer from another country. The check or whatever they sent him ended up costing him money somehow. So I only deal with local buyers. Just my 2 cents

Thanks for the tips guys

I wouldnt do it! I would never buy over seas and if you sold i would go thre PayPal for sure and dont send till money in hand. Good luck!
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maybe they heard about UnBrickable Mod and want a Captivate to develop with....

Darkuso said:
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Use paypal for take the payment. And just ship after check that you have the money in your account.
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Keep in mind that PayPal will freeze your *entire* account for the duration if the buyer files a dispute.... you better be able to PROVE s/he got the phone beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just fyi.

I'll buy it
I'm in nigeria....

doodaa1 said:
Keep in mind that PayPal will freeze your *entire* account for the duration if the buyer files a dispute.... you better be able to PROVE s/he got the phone beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just fyi.
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Ebay have a buyer/seller protection system, in that case they have to prove that he didnt sent the phone or isnt as was in the description. And if the buyer want the money back have to ship back to the seller. You can read about it in the ebay security center, i bought my phone in ebay, took a week to get from US to Venezuela.

aww.W.T.F? said:
Doesn't matter where they are from as long as they pay, and do NOT ship the phone until you have the money in your hands.
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+1 ship only on correct payment, not 1000 donkeys in exchange for your hard earned £50.00
just make sure it is on your terms i.e pay pall and quote for insured shipping. simples

nmsraider said:
+1 ship only on correct payment, not 1000 donkeys in exchange for your hard earned £50.00
just make sure it is on your terms i.e pay pall and quote for insured shipping. simples
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1000 donkeys! Hahahahahaha lmao.
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As long as you get the money, who cares?

Sold an iPhone on eBay to a guy in Ukraine. The tracking system showed that it never arrived and he got his money back through PayPal. I was out an iPhone, eBay's fees, and the cost of shipping.
My local PO told me they hear things like that all the time about Ukraine. The postal system is apparently awful there.
Edit: Just because you get the money doesn't put you in the clear, PayPal put negative balance on my account and called me everyday after the dispute threatening to turn me over to collections if I didn't pay them back.
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also require them to buy insurance, that will protect u and the buyer if the package supposedly never arrives

not worth the hassle or risk you should have no problem selling to a buyer in US or Canada both of which tend to be safer than say Nigeria or Ukraine.

Good point on the insurance. So in case it does get "lost", my money won't be completely lost.

Just in case anyone doesn't know the check scam. The way it works is they send you a check for the product. It looks legit, even your bank will think its real. Banks will normally put the money into your account within 1-3 days if the amount of the check is below a certain amount. They do this before the check ever clears with the bank listed on the check (many times its an overseas bank so it takes even longer to clear). So what happens is that you get your money, ship the product, and then a couple weeks later the bank calls you up and says you owe them that money back because the check bounced. Or worse yet, the bank deducts it directly from your account, which happens, and you get overdrawn. Now you also owe overdraft fees. Problem is you cant hold on to the product for the length of time it takes for the check to fully clear, many times its 2-4 weeks.
So lesson is use paypal, cash, or even western union. No checks ever. There are plenty of scams out there but this one is one of the easiest for people to pull off.

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UK price - Online for £359.88...

..delivered next day, seems a good price or a mistake as it appears to be £110 cheaper than anywhere else, or are prices on the way down.
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/1351/htc-touch-pro
err link? website etc
Sorry, yes, edited original post.
BUMP!!!
...and, Doh!!! I paid £480 for mine about 7 weeks ago. Sigh. I wonder if people have stopped buying them because of some of the possible issues!
just found it on hotdeals! posted by..... you nice
why soo cold tho??? full of knobs!
You got to love and hate hotdeals.
It is without doubt a bargain, if you want one and can afford it, I believe that people on that site just vote cold on anything they dont want or cant afford or dont understand, shame really.
rolandrat said:
..delivered next day, seems a good price or a mistake as it appears to be £110 cheaper than anywhere else, or are prices on the way down.
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/1351/htc-touch-pro
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Thanks for that - i've been waiting for play.com to have a 10% discount which would have only bought the price down to £432(approx).
This is a great price - i only hope they don't say its a mistake as it looks like one (its cheaper than the Diamond which is £363.39).
It Should arrive on Thursday - just ordered it now.
spark9990 said:
Thanks for that - i've been waiting for play.com to have a 10% discount which would have only bought the price down to £432(approx).
This is a great price - i only hope they don't say its a mistake as it looks like one (its cheaper than the Diamond which is £363.39).
It Should arrive on Thursday - just ordered it now.
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I've decided to give a WM phone a go again and ordered myself.
To start with I'll just use it with a data sim, to see what its like, as you can't knock a blackberry for staying in touch with IM etc, but Im just so bored of the crap browser experience and lack of software like Live Mesh, which I use one hell of a lot to keep things synced.
I'll use both for a few weeks and see how it goes.
Looks like they have discovered it - gone back up to £466.89 without postage.
Good thing i bought mine
LOL! I don't feel so sick now ; )
spark9990, when your new pro arrives, please could you take a look at what version ROM it ships with now? (start/settings, system tab, device information - though I'm sure you'll know that already). Congratulations on getting such a great price!!!
spark9990 said:
Looks like they have discovered it - gone back up to £466.89 without postage.
Good thing i bought mine
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Yes and mines on tracking so give them credit for keeping the price for those that bought.
I've used them many times actually and they always have been good.
rolandrat said:
Yes and mines on tracking so give them credit for keeping the price for those that bought.
I've used them many times actually and they always have been good.
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They've cancelled my order - twats. Can they do that?
Mine as well, mine was at the delivery depot.
Not even a offer of a good will gesture, I'm going to check out if they can do that, especially I can prove it was out for delivery.
rolandrat said:
Mine as well, mine was at the delivery depot.
Not even a offer of a good will gesture, I'm going to check out if they can do that, especially I can prove it was out for delivery.
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Let me know what you find - I'm trying to find out if they can do that as well.
Had they sent emails to you both confirming dispatch? If so then then I guess they had entered into a contract with you... talk to Trading Standards for a firm answer....
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Had they sent emails to you both confirming dispatch? If so then then I guess they had entered into a contract with you... talk to Trading Standards for a firm answer....
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I don't have proof of that - but i do have a receipt, and they did take money out of my account.
Then without my permission carried out a refund transaction. I trying to find out how to contact trading standards but in the mean time i am going to try to reason with sellers.
In a retail store, if a product is tagged as a cheaper price by mistake, then the retailer has to give it at that price.
If Handtec had debited your back account/credit card account, then they had entered into a contract with you to supply that item at that price. Speak to both Trading Standards and Handtec about it and make sure you can demonstrate that they had taken your dosh. All you did is select a product on Handtec's website in good faith and, for their part, it would appear that they too entered into that contract to suppply it, so I suggest they honour it!
EDIT: http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk, and they should have an entry in your local phone book. Kent is 0845 7585497 (just in case - good luck!)
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In a retail store, if a product is tagged as a cheaper price by mistake, then the retailer has to give it at that price.
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Thats not true. Most big stores (such as Tesco) will sell you at the quoted price for the good will. By Law they infact have something like 24 hours to correct the price once notified by a customer, during which time they can sell at a different price than is quoted.
That is really bad!
I thought maybe it had something to do with stock levels, but if it got to the depot, you think they would have realised!
Hope you get a response from them or Trading Standards

SimplyElectronics.net (Any idea how I could recover my money)

Ok, I guess the story with SimplyElectronics is very well known so please let's not go into the discussion of why I didn't choose a trusted seller. I used them because like anybody else I found the HTC One X 200eu cheaper than in my country.
Anyway, to get into the point. I bought this phone from them and there was a problem with GPS so they agreed to give me full refund when I send it back to them. I sent it back but they kept the phone and never gave me refund. I started Paypal dispute but they fooled them that they have never received the phone although they told me they received it in good order. After Paypal closed the case in their favour, they told me that they will give no money and no phone back. They told me to go to Paypal to give me my money back.
My question here goes to British people. Do you know of any collection service in the UK, legal or illegal, I don't care, even if it's the mafia, that's fine with me, who can do the collection for me, either by forcibly getting the phone back from them or the money? I have no other option unfortunately so this is my last resort and better than nothing. I know that I can have this kind of 'service' here so most probably there must be something similar in the UK.
No relatives in the UK? If you have then it might be an option to use them to take this company to the small claims court. I think the limit is £500 but I stand to be corrected.
Where are they based?
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No relatives but even if I had, I don't want to involve anyone with my problems. I prefer to give half the value to the mafia and get the other half. At least here, it is the only option to get justice. Police and the law fail, lawyers and courts will cost much more.
There are no "mafia's" here... lol
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At least that's not what we call em
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Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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hungry81 said:
Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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Yes it was signed for but unfortunately UK postal service don't update online tracking information so Paypal cannot verify the delivery and they denied to Paypal that they received it although they acknowledged delivery to me. The postal survey to prove that it was delivered takes 2 month by the British postal service and the authorities here depend on them for the info so they can't help them. After 2 months Paypal will not bother with me.
Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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slking1989 said:
Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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Is that th same as royal mail? if yes, I've emailed them long time ago but they don't even reply. Even from the Postal service here they tried to call them directly and they didn't help. They said, please follow the protocols and file in your reports. Which take 2 months to complete. I know they could provide the info easily but they don't want to do it.
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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slking1989 said:
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks.
They are in Surrey.
Here is the full address:
Simplyelectronics Ltd
C/O MIQ Logistics UK Ltd
Unit 1, Alpha Way,
Thorpe Industrial Park
Egham, Surrey
TW20 8RZ
Do you have any idea how I could get written confirmation from Royal Mail that they have received it? But this has to be done within a week. Paypal told me I can appeal within 10 days if I get this report. I have 7 more days for this.
I will try calling them tomorrow morning then but I doubt they can provide written evidence. Maybe they just tell me that it has been received but I don't think they will give it written now. I will try though. Thanks for the suggestion.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Oh ok then sorry about that ignore my rant and good luck with getting some justice.
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slking1989 said:
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks again for droping the idea. I called them today and although it was very hard to get through (all options where going to dead end and automated messages only), I finally mamaged to randomly select an option and they guy there was so helpful, that he even emailed me the receipt showing the name and signature of the guy who received the package. Imagine that with the official procedure that would take 2 months.
I forwarded this to Paypal but I don't know if they will accept it now. As I said, I believe that they prefer to stay with their side so let's wait and see their excuse this time. Normally there should be an appeal option in the clain page but for me it's missing and they can't tell me the reason. I attached the pdf on dropbox and now I just hope they will see it and be willing to help.
I'll keep you updated and I'm buying beers if I succeed
Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Good news. Paypal has accepted the information and reopened the case allowing me to appeal. They made a mistake though and showed that the seller appealed instead of buyer. Technically thinking, that worries me again. I notified them and now wait with my fingers crossed.
If they just want to help the scammer they may come back with a bunch of excuses but since I am now in this path, I want to be optimistic.
Im sure they will back you up on this one. I dont they they will risk themselves being in **** over a duspute you WILL eventually win. If they dont accept your appeal they may well be getting themselves into trouble. Seeing as you have provided them with written proof. Im sure they will ask s.e to provide there proof of refund or return. Which they cannot do. So i imagine they have the same time period as you "10 days" to provide thier evidence. So i guess its just another waiting game before you get your money or phone
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Well chuffed for ya mate. Im no expert but im sure by this time next week the appeal will be resolved in your favour. As more often than not paypal will not reopen a case unless there was a strong chance of the appealer winning.
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[Q] IMEI numbers matching phone and box?

Long story short.. I sold a phone on eBay with the original box. However, the phone was replaced twice due to sleep death issues. So it turns out that the phone I had sold IMEI number was different then that of the original sticker on the box. This is normal as when you replace a phone, they don't send you a whole new box, they just give you a new phone.
So my question is.. why would a buyer make a big deal about the box's IMEI number not matching the phone's IMEI number? I can only think that he's trying to re-sell it somehow to make a profit, but can't because the numbers don't match.
His reason is "because customs won't allow phones into Europe without the original box with IMEI numbers matching". Riiiiiiight
Anyone care to speculate? Thanks.
So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.
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So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.
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Exactly. He said he was speaking with the airport and they would charge $30-$40 dollars to get some "copies" of proof of ownership so he wants to be compensated for this in a partial refund. When I asked him for the number to this airport so I could verify this obvious bs story myself.. he all of a sudden had to ask his friend for the number and would get back to me. And still hasn't 5 hours later.
Obviously, he's trying to do something dodgy here and wants to be compensated $30-40 for something that he screwed up on by not making sure the IMEI numbers match beforehand. I just can't figure out what.
if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...
Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.
B-Naughty said:
if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...
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Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
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Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.
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I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.
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Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.
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this was a US to US transaction? i thought you shipped overseas... he doesn't have a leg to stand on... no part of your transaction said anything about what you do with it afterwards... or i warranty this, yada yada... it was no returns... i would imagine your sale outlined the phone in its condition... like you said, he should've inquired about that... he's taking it with him??? tell him throw the [email protected] box away....
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i would tell him throw the [email protected] box away....
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Hahaha.. exactly my thoughts. XD And yes, US to US transaction. Then all of a sudden 2 weeks later he needs the original box to match the phone so he can bring it to Europe with him as a gift. Smh. People will make anything up when they screw up instead of just admitting they made a mistake. Oh well heh.
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Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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Did you get any receipts or paperwork for the replacements. This may be enough if you can send him those as proof.
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austin420 said:
Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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People have gotten around this. All the buyer has to do is do a chargeback on their CC. Dirty business.
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Good deal. 32GB for $325?

Two weeks old on CL said he would do $325 only includes phone..no charger, box or anything. Would you guys take it? I'm trying to decide my sprint contract is up Feb 1 and i was interested in this phone and switching to T Mobile
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rickyb316 said:
Two weeks old on CL said he would do $325 only includes phone..no charger, box or anything. Would you guys take it? I'm trying to decide my sprint contract is up Feb 1 and i was interested in this phone and switching to T Mobile
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Sounds sketchy...
He was asking $375 but said it was negotiable because it didn't include anything but the phone. Would it be recommended to use any micro usb charger or is there one specifically built for this phone?
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rickyb316 said:
He was asking $375 but said it was negotiable because it didn't include anything but the phone. Would it be recommended to use any micro usb charger or is there one specifically built for this phone?
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Why not box or charger? Because it's probably stolen.
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Why not box or charger? Because it's probably stolen.
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i can only agree with fellow XDA member.
if you buy new device (high end) you will defon keep the box... maybe the charger can kinda get lost (in work, school, or something) but defo not the box... and the price he is sellling it at is not a "steal"... so save few more bucks bro and get your hands on brand new boxed nexie.
take care...
My friend just bought a Black 32GB just the phone and cable, no box or charger, for 300$ of CL here in the Seattle area, he just made sure he checked the IMEI using Swappa.com (they have a free IMEI/ESN checker, be careful with other sites that claim to check IMEI/ESN's for you, cause some of those are just phishing for these numbers, and once you put them in, they will tell you its ok, but then copy the number themselves and use it for cloning devices, or for changing the IMEI on a blacklisted phone, to the white-listed IMEI you gave them. Also once you use a legit IMEI checker, call your service provider and tell them you are purchasing this right now and have the dude talk to them to verify this, you could also call whatever provider he was using, if any, so that way there's record of him selling. or you could just meet at one of your service providers stores. If they aren't willing to do that, and are absolutely set on not meeting there, then yea, somethings up. But I would at least try the approach I suggested cause you may end up getting a very good deal, and if not, then you didn't lose anything cause you took steps to ensure your protection, so no harm no foul.
AND NEVER GO ALONE ! Guy or Girl. I am 27, 6'3", ex-military, and a Guitarist who is well known in the local scene so most people in the area know me, but I still don't do CL deals by myself. I even have my CHL and carry either a Glock 19 Gen 2, or a FNH FNP Tactical .45 (not always, but sometimes, I am an opencarry adovacate, but i wont get into that here lol), and still dont go alone, can't stress that one enough. a dear friend of mine was raped in Tacoma, WA while trying to buy a crib for her daughter and i wish everyday that she woulda called me or one of our friends to go with...
The final bit of advice I can give, is trust your gut. Sounds cliche, but its true. If you feel like somethings off, it prolly is, and even if it isn't, is your life, or overall well-being, worth getting less then 100$ off on a phone, ya dig.
Not sure I agree with the people who say if you don't have a box, its probably stolen. I sold a phone without a box because when I bought it, the person at the t-mobile store told me that I would get a $10 bill credit if I let them recycle the box. Sounded sketchy to me, but I did actually get the credit.
And running the IMEI through swaapa just proves that it hasn't been marked as stolen YET. The seller could stop paying payments (if they have tmo) and the IMEI gets blacklisted then.
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My friend just bought a Black 32GB just the phone and cable, no box or charger, for 300$ of CL here in the Seattle area, he just made sure he checked the IMEI using Swappa.com (they have a free IMEI/ESN checker, be careful with other sites that claim to check IMEI/ESN's for you, cause some of those are just phishing for these numbers, and once you put them in, they will tell you its ok, but then copy the number themselves and use it for cloning devices, or for changing the IMEI on a blacklisted phone, to the white-listed IMEI you gave them. Also once you use a legit IMEI checker, call your service provider and tell them you are purchasing this right now and have the dude talk to them to verify this, you could also call whatever provider he was using, if any, so that way there's record of him selling. or you could just meet at one of your service providers stores. If they aren't willing to do that, and are absolutely set on not meeting there, then yea, somethings up. But I would at least try the approach I suggested cause you may end up getting a very good deal, and if not, then you didn't lose anything cause you took steps to ensure your protection, so no harm no foul.
AND NEVER GO ALONE ! Guy or Girl. I am 27, 6'3", ex-military, and a Guitarist who is well known in the local scene so most people in the area know me, but I still don't do CL deals by myself. I even have my CHL and carry either a Glock 19 Gen 2, or a FNH FNP Tactical .45 (not always, but sometimes, I am an opencarry adovacate, but i wont get into that here lol), and still dont go alone, can't stress that one enough. a dear friend of mine was raped in Tacoma, WA while trying to buy a crib for her daughter and i wish everyday that she woulda called me or one of our friends to go with...
The final bit of advice I can give, is trust your gut. Sounds cliche, but its true. If you feel like somethings off, it prolly is, and even if it isn't, is your life, or overall well-being, worth getting less then 100$ off on a phone, ya dig.
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OP and you can bring me ill get him to punch me (self defense) then ill beat his ass and take my iPhone crack it first then smack him on the face making sure the glass shards cut every damn thing!
markdapimp said:
OP and you can bring me ill get him to punch me (self defense) then ill beat his ass and take my iPhone crack it first then smack him on the face making sure the glass shards cut every damn thing!
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wow, I totally change my stance. Forget everything i said (minus the part about IMEI/ESN checkers) and just bring this dude, he's like some crazy iphone wielding ninja. You can't lose with him watching ur back, they will be so scared, they'll prolly just give you the phone and free service for a year lol
Hunteres said:
i can only agree with fellow XDA member.
if you buy new device (high end) you will defon keep the box... maybe the charger can kinda get lost (in work, school, or something) but defo not the box... and the price he is sellling it at is not a "steal"... so save few more bucks bro and get your hands on brand new boxed nexie.
take care...
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Actually it probably is a steal. Get it? :laugh::good:
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Actually it probably is a steal. Get it? :laugh::good:
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Not worth
No go people. It's not about being stolen, I've had my phone stolen before and I needed to send my box and service agreement into Asurion. It could be that he has the box and may sell it but then report it stolen after the fact. I've done business on craigslist plenty of times and actually learned this the hard way about a year ago when I bought a Nexus 4 blacklisted from T-Mobile about 3 days after I bought it and was working. Always get the box with the IMEI sticker still attached when buying phones on craigslist, in most cases your better off than not.
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Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
mazinger4 said:
Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
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i´m on the same boat, i sent a unit to get imei repareid but nobody respond about my order, the tech guy talks horrible when you try to communicate thru remote service terminal, but i´m so worried i think i lost my unit and 70 US, be aware about this people, we have to do something.
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i´m on the same boat, i sent a unit to get imei repareid but nobody respond about my order, the tech guy talks horrible when you try to communicate thru remote service terminal, but i´m so worried i think i lost my unit and 70 US, be aware about this people, we have to do something.
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The same thing happen to me...I was told I had to send my phone in and its been well over a month and i had not received my phone or are they returning my call or email......Do not do any business with them....
Ouch, this thread caught my attention. Thanks for sharing with us.
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The Unlock Pros = The Scam Pros
They've done the same thing to me. They got me to send my $900 phone in for IMEI repair after they've screwed it up remotely. They use a UPS Store mailbox as shipping address.
Once they got the phone they started ignoring my emails and phone calls. When I finally got someone with the username "Scott" one their website live chat, he was rude first and later mocked me, called me stupid, dumb and all the f words for asking about my phone.
Never do business with these guys. They are thieves and they continue to steal phones because they assume people won't waste their time and money to sue them for stealing their cell phones. At least that's what the Scott guy told me after insulting me online. Also they think or assume your phone is stolen so you won't do anything if they steal from you.
They do provide the remote unlock and IMEI repair but this is just their way to make their business look legitimate. In reality the look for opportunities to have you ship your phone in. For example they will intentionally screw up the phone then as you to ship it in.
By the way, they will show you a mail label to make you think that they'll ship your phone back to you soon. This is just a trick, Kiss your phone goodbye if you've made the mistake like me to ship your phone to these scammer.
Just so you know(no offense) but to unblacklist means to hack into the phones database. And I feel really sorry for you. Hope you get your money back.
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Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
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chaoshunter said:
Just so you know(no offense) but to unblacklist means to hack into the phones database. And I feel really sorry for you. Hope you get your money back.
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Exactly like this scumbag told me, Paypal will not refund intangible goods. This pos "merchant ' had bragged to me about that & told me I'd never get my money back.
Paypal did refuse, at first... but they changed their minds after I sent 'em the tape of the guy they gave my money too threatening me and my kids.... (Thank goodness fro rooted phones!) I may have also mentioned that I would report them (paypal) to the Office of the Inspector General for aiding in interstate criminal this and that, extortion, etc etc.
The next day, I got an email saying Paypal had refunded my money from Paypal funds.
They did not take my money back from the Unlock Pros AFIK. The Unlock Pros is one scumbag ripoff artist using Paypal to do it.
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Update:
Exactly like this scumbag told me, Paypal will not refund intangible goods. This pos "merchant ' had bragged to me about that & told me I'd never get my money back.
Paypal did refuse, at first... but they changed their minds after I sent 'em the tape of the guy they gave my money too threatening me and my kids.... (Thank goodness fro rooted phones!) I may have also mentioned that I would report them (paypal) to the Office of the Inspector General for aiding in interstate criminal this and that, extortion, etc etc.
The next day, I got an email saying Paypal had refunded my money from Paypal funds.
They did not take my money back from the Unlock Pros AFIK. The Unlock Pros is one scumbag ripoff artist using Paypal to do it.
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I hate scammers more then anything. Hope they get what they deserve.
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I am sorry that you got scammed, and glad you got your money back.
But on THIS site we do not discuss anything to do with IMEI changing for any reason, this includes services or hack methods.
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