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Scammer on eBay... Selling WM6 Upgrade

Been a while since I've been back here since I switched to Sprint and got a Vogue... Think I just might miss you guys...
You guys might wanna check this out... A$$hole on eBay selling your hard work.
He is selling WM6 to make a profit off all of your hard work here. The idiot doesn't even know he is selling Yesterday's news since WM6.1 is out now...
http://cgi.ebay.com/WM6-PRO-ROM-UPG...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I would report him but I have no idea how to do this.

ebay scam
What a schmuck.Looks like he didn't make ANY sales.
BTW Sorry to hear about your Wizard
Check this one out:
http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/2559279-Software-Programs-Cell-Phone-Programs

ban that seller

Not this agian........its been a while since i remember this happening here.
report to ebay..........

They do it on Craigslist as well. This ad taken from the Bay Area Craigslist, dude straight up copied the main xda forums website.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ele/721235486.html

Damn this guy...
Absolutely true there guys!
This ebayer seems to be a bit of a scam. Everyone here works hard for this stuff and he sells.
Freeware should stay as it is - FREE!
Phil

XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry

If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.

Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.

Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.

Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.

Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.

Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller

I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...

To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)

In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose

matmaneyre said:
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.

Ponder said:
You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!

SOLD now, thanks.

Sold. Please close.

Sold.
Thanks for the interest guys

Why not just post it on e-bay if you're going to be "Open to any reasonable offers"? Sounds like bidding to me.

bighulk666 said:
Why not just post it on e-bay if you're going to be "Open to any reasonable offers"? Sounds like bidding to me.
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Apologies mate if it comes across that way- I just had no idea what its worth thats all.
I will re-emphasise that its a practically new dock and comes with all original components and packaging.
Please PM me if interested.

PM sent

Just confirming the dock is still available at the moment.
I'm awaiting PM replies.
Thanks for the interest guys

PM Sent...

Hey mate, thanks for the PM. Let me know how we will do the exchange

Sold. Thanks for the interest.

That's a douche move. If I were to be one of those people I'd be livid. Just because people want it at your price doesn't mean raise the price. I hope nobody purchases it based on principle, and it just collects dust.
I hate to be "that" guy, but I am always selling things, and at great prices. When I have tons of people hitting me up, whoever gets me the moneys first gets it. I don't start a dang bid battle. That's lame. To each their own though I suppose.

dictionary said:
To each their own though I suppose.
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Thanks mate for your opinion
Bear in mind that I'm not making a profit here...just trying to recoup my losses.
To completely ignore market forces as you suggest, in my opinion is highly naieve. If you wish to take the moral high ground in theory and criticise others for being realistic then kuodos to you. If you have further unconstructive opinionated comments to make to me, then I'd encourage you to do so via PM.
cheers

Trust me. I ended up losing lol. I'd rather get something than nothing though. Just hate it when I want a hot item, and the seller decides to up the price since a lot of interest has gathered. Picture yourself in the other persons shoes.
Sorry if I came off harsh, that's just one of my peeves. Good luck with the sale

dictionary said:
Trust me. I ended up losing lol. I'd rather get something than nothing though. Just hate it when I want a hot item, and the seller decides to up the price since a lot of interest has gathered. Picture yourself in the other persons shoes.
Sorry if I came off harsh, that's just one of my peeves. Good luck with the sale
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Just to prevent any further dispute... I initially offered him higher than what he wanted because I believe the price I'm offering is fair. I could either buy it from states and have it shipped, or buy it from my Ausi mate. I don't really know anyone in US, plus I would have to have someone use an american CC to purchase the item because Canada is an international country to the US although we are practically sisters. No need to be frustrated. I also hate it when the seller increases the price due to greed but I'm sure this is not the case.

Sold.
Thanks for the interest guys

Sears never charged me for my G-tab . . .

I bought my G-tab online Nov. 1 via PayPal, received the tablet, and assumed the transaction went through. I just checked and they never took the money! The transaction expired Friday and is listed as "Canceled" now.
Anyone ever experienced this? I kinda want to call them to see why they didn't take the money. But, I kinda don't wanna tempt fate and look a $398.99 gift horse in the mouth either! LOL!
Thoughts???

It may sound strange and ethical, but I would call them.

call me whatever you like but I would most definitely not call them.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?

maccaw1 said:
Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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Not that easily... if they called me about it that would be different, it was their mistake. call it karma for having such a piece of **** return policy... I'm going under the assumption that you bought it from sears online. if it was from an individual or something my morals might come into play
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maccaw1 said:
Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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That's interesting considering you've probably intentionally voided your product warranty by making software mods using roms illegally ported from other devices. An probably side loade d hundreds of apks for which you didn't pay the developer and most likely skimmed from a wares or torrent site, or Applanet.net.
Sound like a huge case of situational ethics to me buddy. Pick a position. If you feel so much guilt about things, delete your xda account and keep it moving.

id let them know, personally. when you start taking an active role in karma, as another stated in this thread, then karma starts taking an active role in your life. ive had way too many run-ins with karma to tempt fate again.
but hey, thats just me.

aamon17 said:
That's interesting considering you've probably intentionally voided your product warranty by making software mods using roms illegally ported from other devices. An probably side loade d hundreds of apks for which you didn't pay the developer and most likely skimmed from a wares or torrent site, or Applanet.net.
Sound like a huge case of situational ethics to me buddy. Pick a position. If you feel so much guilt about things, delete your xda account and keep it moving.
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that's actually not even a valid argument except for installing non-paid for apps.
What you do to a device you own is your choice. You can flash anything you want to it if you choose....as long as you don't expect a warranty replacement if you screw it up. If I want to flash my toaster oven with the firmware from my microwave......more power to me. But when my toaster oven no longer works, it's my fault not the manufacturers.
Now getting a toaster oven you didn't pay for is a totally different argument (the original poster's).

Sorry OP, but it's called theft of a material item. You knew that you didn't pay for it, but are keeping it anyways. Of course, many companies tack on extra charges for services and steal from consumers, so it's a gray area. I guess if you look at it from the standpoint of "business is business" then it's fair. Dunno what to say.

Thanks for the input. All is well. I'm returning the device & will let them figure out what to do. Anyone in the Richmond, VA area looking for a clearance item, check the Virginia Center Commons Sears location later this week.

Good call... You are doing the right thing.... Why are you returning?

samielowe said:
Good call... You are doing the right thing.... Why are you returning?
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Thanks. I also have an Archos 101 8gb that I've been comparing the last week. Sticking with the 101 and awaiting the 2.2 update.

I can tell you have good morals, why else post that you got it lol.If you honestly intended on keeping it, you shouldn't or wouldn't have said anything to anyone.
Sent from my Sprint Evo using Xda app.

Yes, not calling them and taking a free GTab will help our economy. /sarcasm

It happened to me, I called to ask about my order being placed and available, shortly after I was charged. I had received my pickup email already, so I'm sure if I had picked up the order and said nothing, it would have not been charged.

In a perfect world, when you called to tell them about the error they should have said "we appreciate your honesty and we will not charge you because of it, consider this a gift". You win, and they win as you would be more likely to be a return customer.

[Q] Would you invest on somthing like this ?

Hi all,
1st of all, i got to say, nice forum you got here.
now, i like to share somthing i have noticed by one of the other forum online...
i have seen one auction on ebay that let me think to risk my money. and the auction is :
MOD EDIT: NO EBAY LINKS ALLOWED
now, my question for you guys, whould you try to take a risk on somthing like that, or just to leave it alone and to look for other investments...
this auction is look atractive for me because of it's price. - if this game is, let's say "nice", not good, perfect, or somthing around, but "nice", for 5000$ and production costs (around 10000$) and total of 15,000$ i need only let's say 28,000 sales of the game for 0.99$ to get my money back after all commitions.
so it's sounds like a low risk inventment.
the only thing i'm scared of, is this guy has no feedback.
what do you say ?
worth the risk ?
how can i know it's not a scam ???

Well, trying not to be too cynical about all of this, the ebay ad is from someone in Israel, you've suggested you're from Israel, so why not contact the seller, it should be easy for you in particular to do that I would imagine, and find out how much of a scam it really is.
Massive scam I would imagine.
The sort of thing someone creates, then joins forums all over the interweb making random posts on the end of old threads to make it appear that they're not a new member, then posting a link to the ad hoping someone will be stupid enough to make a bid.
It's amazing what you find when you google "Hi all, 1st of all, i got to say, nice forum you got here"

lol
scam it's not, but try to make a living... lol

analyst303 said:
lol
scam it's not, but try to make a living... lol
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So the ebay ad is indeed yours?
Lets see, on one forum you claim to be from Brooklyn NY, on here you've suggested you're in Israel (same location as the ebay seller), and on another forum you've been permanently banned.
Um, no, i would not invest.

still i need to advertise it no ?
if people will know it's me so what's the point ?

analyst303 said:
still i need to advertise it no ?
if people will know it's me so what's the point ?
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through deception? by claiming the ebay ad isn't you? no of course not.
the ad is for an "idea"
that could be "i've got an idea for a flying toasters vertical shooter game, there you go, you've been given my idea, thanks for the $5000"

I wouldn't call it a scam since it says "idea", but you're right could be anything between a paragraph of text and a pretty handdrawn sketch on a Burger King napkin...

snorfonius said:
I wouldn't call it a scam since it says "idea", but you're right could be anything between a paragraph of text and a pretty handdrawn sketch on a Burger King napkin...
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The scam is the claim that he "found" the ad on ebay when he is actually the seller.
Dodgy as a 9 bob note.

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