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[Q] HTC Bootloader and NAND campaign

What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 15th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.
To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN and you can see updates on my blog at http://goo.gl/KdpFr
We got featured on androidspin http://goo.gl/DryCd and eurodroid http://goo.gl/4SNf8

I've just sign it every bit help the cause.
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we need way more attention to this topic...after 1.5 years with the motorola milestone I was waiting for a awesome htc device...although the sensation is inferior to the samsung galaxy s2, I would go for it..I would totally turn a blind eye on the fact that it has less ram, ridiculouse internal storage and its thickness..my only true concern was the bootloader..after the milestone I would never ever go for a device with a signed bootloader again..I would totally pass on guarantee just to have an open bootloader..

If I may interject. The point of a locked bootloader is not to sell more devices, it is to protect the intellectual property contained on said locked device from being dumped, IE full versions of otherwise payed programs that the OEM includes in their ROM(Swype etc.). If users are able to simply dump an image that contains these programs, they can then redistribute them as they see fit. Do not misread me, I am for unlocked bootloaders 100% and have used HTC devices for almost 5 years now. I just wanted to add my opinion that its not about you buying another device for an update, its about manufactures trying to protect themselves.
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Fair one
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I support!

Here goes my support
+1 support

But the dump still leaks out in the form of a ruu
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If you havent already please share
On another note its great to see that there are 133 new sigs overnight
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brilldoctor said:
If you havent already please share
On another note its great to see that there are 133 new sigs overnight
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I signed and shared the information.

Good
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We got 2k sigs!!!!! And it is now a featured groubal http://www.groubal.com/
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brilldoctor said:
We got 2k sigs!!!!! And it is now a featured groubal http://www.groubal.com/
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That's roughly €1000000/£877000/$1423000 in sold phones(when price in € is 500,which is lower than atleast here in Finland). That kind of money should have some effect?

Signed and shared

just signed.

3000+ nice

So, at what point does this get submitted to HTC??

7k sigs
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Football is on a roll lately releasing Sensation ruu, so far we have 8 ruu already in development section not including Asia ruu that would be 9 updates. It's getting very interesting indeed.
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epsix said:
Football is on a roll lately releasing Sensation ruu, so far we have 8 ruu already in development section not including Asia ruu that would be 9 updates. It's getting very interesting indeed.
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But sadly, none of these currently have an ENG H-BOOT (as far as we know )
We need that.

Petition for official Sense 4.0 on our devices!

Sign it here:
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc...-of-htc-devices-the-new-sense-4-0-experience#
(I know I don't own a HTC Sensation, but this also applies to you )

I've signed it We have a device here as capable as the ONE family and therefore to not have an official Sense 4.0 is just a crime....

Just signed !!
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I just signed........

I just signed...

We should better start a Petition to get the ICS Kernel Sources...
Although they are already forced by law to do this.
They are currently violating the law by breaking GPL rules.
Please tweet them (@htcdev) to publish the ICS Kernel Sources, if we get them we can port Sense 4.0 way better & AOSP/AOKP/CM/.... will run smoother and better.
This is more necessary!
EDIT:
Tweets you can retweet (or as an Idea if you want to tweet yourself)
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/181083007657050112
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180666961900998657
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180713156648251392
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180345519695077376
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180234755764260864
https://twitter.com/#!/baadnwz/status/180181237640601601
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180189141370273792
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180025110399426561
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/179878718938943488
https://twitter.com/#!/toastcfh/status/179626174618669056
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/174109413966233601
If you don't know this people:
Vorbeth - should be known for OpenSensation
TripNRaVeR - TripNDroid OS, TripNMiui, porting Ville & Endeavour RUU to Sensation
baadnwz - InsertCoin ROMs
EDIT2:
https://twitter.com/#!/azrienoch/status/181506384611905537
Looks like we got the source...
I hear @HTCDev just posted the source code for ICS on the Sensation, Sensation XE, and Raider. Well played, @htc.
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Signed Now

And you all thinks that this is the way, and this crappy petition will bring any results? Buahaha.

Why not ? We don't lose anything but a few seconds. And I think is has worked before .
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SIGNED :0)
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hexen88 said:
And you all thinks that this is the way, and this crappy petition will bring any results? Buahaha.
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And do you know any different????
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fabi280 said:
We should better start a Petition to get the ICS Kernel Sources...
Although they are already forced by law to do this.
They are currently violating the law by breaking GPL rules.
Please tweet them (@htcdev) to publish the ICS Kernel Sources, if we get them we can port Sense 4.0 way better & AOSP/AOKP/CM/.... will run smoother and better.
This is more necessary!
EDIT:
Tweets you can retweet (or as an Idea if you want to tweet yourself)
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/181083007657050112
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180666961900998657
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180713156648251392
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180345519695077376
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180234755764260864
https://twitter.com/#!/baadnwz/status/180181237640601601
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/180189141370273792
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/180025110399426561
https://twitter.com/#!/Vorbeth/status/179878718938943488
https://twitter.com/#!/toastcfh/status/179626174618669056
https://twitter.com/#!/TripNRaVeR/status/174109413966233601
If you don't know this people:
Vorbeth - should be known for OpenSensation
TripNRaVeR - TripNDroid OS, TripNMiui, porting Ville & Endeavour RUU to Sensation
baadnwz - InsertCoin ROMs
EDIT2:
https://twitter.com/#!/azrienoch/status/181506384611905537
Looks like we got the source...
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Kernel source is now available on htcdev
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Signed & passed onto others

Won't work lol
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signed.
because apart from the new camera features, landscape homescreen/lockscreen and widget adding doesnt need the processing powers of the One series.

fr0zenblood75 said:
Why not ? We don't lose anything but a few seconds. And I think is has worked before .
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Because online petitions of this kind have no legal validity? If you know what I mean.
Grow up...

hexen88 said:
Because online petitions of this kind have no legal validity? If you know what I mean.
Grow up...
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haha. cynic much?

why are some ppl so impatient? just be happy that u r getting ics + sense 3.6 for now. i'm pretty sure we'll get an official sense 4.0 rom sooner or later, but for now HTC is focusing on releasing the ONE series and on delivering ics + sense 3.6 for their older devices.
the Sensation can run sense 4.0 for sure, but there seem to be some features for the new hardware (e.g. dual shutter camera), so some optimizations have to be made for the different hardware to get a stable rom. give them some time. i mean, look at the first ports of sense 4.0 for the desire s for example. u can run them, but several features aren't working flawlessly yet.
so just be patient. HTC also said in the past that several devices won't get sense 3.0 and those devices got 3.0 at the end...

Yea look at the HTC ones specs... Not much different from the amaze, except its uglier! We need a qaudcore device with a nice physical keyboard for T-Mobile! *with beats*
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I also signed it, hope htc will listen to us
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[Petition] HTC Give us Desire HD ICS

Hey everyone, this is a petition to get HTC to give us Ice Cream Sandwich. As people have seen, HTC released this statement
After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD. When we consider new versions of software, we weigh a number of factors, but ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor. We apologize for any confusion this change may have caused our customers.
Now as anyone on XDA we know this is not true. This is really getting alot of us mad, and I thought it is about time we do something as a community. Now, the HTC Desire was suppose to get Gingerbread, but ended up not being able to handle Gingerbread with Sense on top of it, so because of that and the efforts of the community, HTC released an RUU on the HTCDev.com website for a pure Ginerbread update. Now if HTC is not going to bring an update for our phone, they can at lest bring a ICS RUU then. It at lest gives us Devs offical libs and kernel.
Now please people, can you please sign this petition, we need to show HTC that we care about this phone, and we want this update.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-us-ics/
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If it asks you to donate after you vote, that is not going to are cause that is going to ipetitions, just click the back button or close the tab
Spread this everywhere you can we want this to go big!!
If the Desire HD gets native ICS then we will also get easily, which also means a working camera so please sign this Petition.

Signed lolk
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Just sell your phone and never buy another HTC phone ever again

Please HTC don't push us to buy OneX stopping ICS for DHD, don't be evil....

signed

Signed

Signed.
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Logged in with facebook!!!!!

is Desire HD the only phone that will give us a working cam?

Signed
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I signed but do these actually ever work?
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exemp30 said:
I signed but do these actually ever work?
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Occasionally. Don't be a hater.

Signed. What happens if I sign again.
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estallings15 said:
Occasionally. Don't be a hater.
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Not hating I do hope this does work
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Signed. I would love to see this work. While I am still under contract and under a certain lack of funds to switch to the 'Pure Google' experience that is Nexus, I would like to see ICS or JB on a similar device so the glacier gets the proper drivers so we can all have a fully functional experience. Fun all around.

6048 and growing!
The number is 6048 and growing!

mynameis123 said:
The number is 6048 and growing!
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That is pretty impressive...But it's kinda clear that Htc wants everyone to buy a HOAX.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417196&postcount=441

Smalls_ said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417196&postcount=441
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Well that sucks...
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HTC lying again

Was just on chat with support. Contiually lying to me that both versions s4 and s3 jb were released at the same time and I shouldn't rely on third party websites like xa for news hmmmmm

I hate HTC. My next phone will be a Nexus device. But that's my own rant. I still love the One S!

AW: HTC lying again
No wonder why htc is going down!
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Kinda like HTC president commenting that it was poor marketing campaigns that made for lower sales than other brands.
I really like the build quality on my HTC devices. But some things could be improved on other ends.

+1. Build quality is great, much better than sh*tty Samsung devices with plastic all over it. The software side, support, and updates are what is lacking at a disgusting level.

decievedthought said:
Was just on chat with support. Contiually lying to me that both versions s4 and s3 jb were released at the same time and I shouldn't rely on third party websites like xa for news hmmmmm
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Nope, Jelly Bean update for One S C2 is still in developement process (God Knows, when it will be live?)
I recently checked a thread on HTC UK's Facebook page they have specifically mentioned that Jelly Bean update for HTC One S C2 is in developement/testing phase
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yogeshbhandalkar said:
Nope, Jelly Bean update for One S C2 is still in developement process (God Knows, when it will be live?)
I recently checked a thread on HTC UK's Facebook page they have specifically mentioned that Jelly Bean update for HTC One S C2 is in developement/testing phase
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So there probably is an issue with it eg performance or it wouldn't be this long. Most likely the fact they used an older slower processor. They should replace every s3.
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When I buy a device, I honestly dont give a rats ass about what the manufacture says. I check the XDA section for said device and see how the custom rom/root/unlock support is , and google a bit for build quality etc.
The only thing that we have to rely on the manufacture for, is the kernel source for said device/version. GIEF THE SOURCE ALREADY!
But theres always AOSP options...
Half the point, for me at least, with an android device is that you are NOT LOCKED to whatever the manufacture puts in it - you are free to change it!

Bad publicity campaign on facebook! Let's make some noise!

What do you think if we start a facebook group or page !
I think the petition is a good start, but we need to get htc attention!
One way could be to create a page or a group on facebook of disappointed customers that can start a campaign consisting in posting on Htc related pages to express the disappointing of this shameful updates policy!
I started a group and a page on facebook, there are the links: GROUP and PAGE
We can do the same also on Goggle+!!!!
What do you think? what else we can do?

We can try, but I think that normal users/customers like us havent enough power to change htcs decisions..
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NQNH said:
We can try, but I think that normal users/customers like us havent enough power to change htcs decisions..
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Just do it we have nothing to loose now and HTC have every thing to loose.
This is not just about the one s but all there phones the more people that no there will be no updates on there phones the more people stop buying them , including there flagship phones.

I joined the group and liked the page. I think it makes it harder to defend android phones when we have this kind of lack of support and updates. At least for the average user who doesnt want to root.
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Apparently Qualcomm isn't supporting HTC with needed drivers for the s3 models and in conclusion there's no update for either device... They even said that the current stock Rom is already perfectly optimized so there is no need for an update in the first place. What kind of twisted logic is that? The phone has 2 years warranty and one year passed and update support already ends? If they pull through with this, this is my last HTC phone..
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Seriously.....this has already been tried with a more popular phone the Desire HD and NOTHING came of it. HTC just does not care what people care/think.
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DroidRunner said:
Seriously.....this has already been tried with a more popular phone the Desire HD and NOTHING came of it. HTC just does not care what people care/think.
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HTC desire its true I was there to and HTC did nothing , and here we all are again how many times are we going to let HTC screw us?

Let's see I have owned G1, Hd2,Evo4g,Sensation,and One S.Now I own S2,Droid Razr,Galaxy Nexus,Nexus7 paid about half of what I would have for HTC much happier seems crazy to pay 650 for a device that will have slow updates and early retirement plus there s off and unlock suck next up for me Moto X
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Petition on change.org
Sign the Petition on change.org mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349075
Maybe HTC will change their mind, at least for the C1/S4-Versions.
Here's the direct link to participate, about 500 supporters still needed!
https://www.change.org/petitions/ht...utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
greetings
Matthias

searchworlds said:
What do you think if we start a facebook group or page !
I think the petition is a good start, but we need to get htc attention!
One way could be to create a page or a group on facebook of disappointed customers that can start a campaign consisting in posting on Htc related pages to express the disappointing of this shameful updates policy!
I started a group and a page on facebook, there are the links: GROUP and PAGE
We can do the same also on Goggle+!!!!
What do you think? what else we can do?
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its too late for the one s. they dont read/dont care about these petitions and fb pages. want to make a change? vote with your wallet. stop buying HTC phones

Is the PAGE gone?

HTC must have threatened facebook into removing it lol. Scumbags
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